Summary:
Emotions are nature’s way of executing a command. This post looks at why we’re illogical and provides great examples of the kind of emotional persuasion that happens every day.
Let’s talk about winning. Now TRP has a great community of actionable advice. You know, work on yourself and be the guy men and women want to be around. Build your SMV.
Okay, we all understand that, but how do we do it? And why aren’t we all alphas by now?
Information is not the problem.
All your problems right now do stem from a lack of information. Unfortunately all too often, there’s a common misconception here that we don’t know how to solve our problems. That we need to do more research to figure it out.
That’s right but for the wrong reasons.
TRP bashes on SJW, but to their credit, they do something better than all of us. SJW are winning the emotional game. Logically, there points usually make no sense. But they can play your emotions better than anyone.
You’re going to win through emotional domination.
If SJWs do one valuable thing it’s providing the framework for mass persuasion. It feels like they’ve brainwashed the entire world. Let’s take the ethical aspects of that and put it aside. Here’s how they do it.
Tactics of SJW include:
- Name-Calling (bigot, racist, sexist)
- Playing the Victim (online harassment)
- Exaggerating claims (1 in 5 women are sexually assaulted, Michelle Fields being assaulted by Trump’s Manager)
- Viciously attacking people who oppose them (black lives matter protesting Ben Shapiro, gamergate)
- Staying on Message (media are not covering Immigrant rapes in Cologne)
Now there is one man who’s able to use emotional persuasion for his own gain. My last post on him did really well and it was called, “How to Defend Yourself Like Trump: 11 Pro Strategies." I wrote that piece because I was so surprised that we were seeing a conservative candidate using the SJW persuasion tactics!
Donald Trump uses all of these tactics:
- Name-Calling (low energy, choke artist)
- Playing the victim (unfair treatment by the press)
- Exaggerating claims (Mexicans are rapists and drug smugglers)
- Viciously attacking people who oppose them (Look at how Trump attacks the media and his opponents)
- Staying on Message (I’ll build a wall and make America great)
Now the correlation between the tactics used does not prove to be causation for Trumps success. However, it does give a good suggestion of why he’s doing so well. What’s really surprising is that most people don’t do this.
We take a logical approach because that makes sense. But if we were all logical we’d be cold calling to get more sales all day. We’d be cold approaching women until we had a harem waiting for us at home. And we’d all have six-packs because we’d have perfect diets.
But we don’t because we are not logical. We are emotional.
There’s a great book called Mindless Eating that looks at the psychology of our eating habits. Once you see how surprisingly irrational are eating habits you’ll realize the power of tapping into people’s emotions.
My favourite MINDLESS EATING quotes to illustrate how we’re all irrational:
- “Almost any sign with a number promotion (2 for $2) leads us to buy 30 to 100 percent more than we normally would.”
- “If we consciously deny ourselves something, again and again, we’re likely to end up craving it more and more.”
- “If a person thinks he ate less than that typical volume, he’ll think he’s hungry. If he thinks he ate more, he’ll think he’s full.”
- “The more you think of something, the more of it you’ll eat.”
- “When people ate alone, some ate very little and others ate quite a lot… When eating in groups of four or eight, light eaters ate more, and heavy eaters ate less.”
- “Anything that takes our focus off the food makes us more likely to overeat without knowing it.”
On the same topic of psychology, there’s another great book called PREDICTABLY IRRATIONAL by Dan Ariely. Here are some great quotes from him that really illustrate the weaknesses we all have:
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“Individuals are honest only to the extent that suits them (including their desire to please others)”
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“Once we take ownership of an idea — whether it’s about politics or sports — what do we do? We love it perhaps more than we should. We prize it more than it is worth. And most frequently, we have trouble letting go of it because we can’t stand the idea of its loss. What are we left with then? An ideology — rigid and unyielding.”
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“...if I pay you lots of money to see reality in a certain way, you will.”
- For lots of undesirable behaviors it helps to have a rule. Think about something like “no drinking,” “no dessert unless it is the weekend,” Rules help us figure out when we are doing the right thing and when we are not, and this way it helps us behave better.
- It is helpful to think of people as having two fundamental motivations: the desire to see ourselves as honest, good people, and the desire to gain the benefits that come from cheating - on our taxes or on the football field.
THE MOST IMPORTANT QUOTE:
"Emotions are nature’s way of executing a command. Imagine you’re in the jungle and you see a tiger. What nature wants you to do is run as fast as possible without thinking. And emotions have evolved as a way of getting us to behave in specific ways, even if not perfect or rational."
Now let’s get to how you can start winning through emotional domination. If you want to start controlling others to get what you want, you’re going to need a lot of practice. This the first step, the best answer to starting winning through emotional persuasion is to put in a lot of hustle.
Here’s an amazing excerpt on mastery from the Art and Fear:
The ceramics teacher announced he was dividing his class into two groups. All those on the left side of the studio would be graded solely on the quantity of work they produced, all those on the right graded solely on its quality.
His procedure was simple: on the final day of class he would weigh the work of the “quantity” group: 50 pounds of pots rated an A, 40 pounds a B, and so on. Those being graded on “quality”, however, needed to produce only one pot - albeit a perfect one - to get an A.
Well, come grading time and a curious fact emerged: the works of highest quality were all produced by the group being graded for quantity!
It seems that while the “quantity” group was busily churning out piles of work - and learning from their mistakes - the “quality” group had sat theorizing about perfection, and in the end had little more to show for their efforts than grandiose theories and a pile of dead clay.
It starts with HUSTLE.
The participants who theorized on creating the best pot did far worse than those who just created. My personal experience with writing and making films affirms this.
And if you look the number 1 common dominator in all successful people, it’s always the same thing: hustle. I hate all these internet gurus that praise how little they work do and how much they make. We should all be working as hard as possible.
But the desire to hustle isn’t enough. We need to understand our own emotional blueprint to figure out the best way to make that happen. We not only need understand our own blueprint but we need to understand the various emotional blueprints of others.
Taking advantage of emotional triggers requires a level of discipline and a focus on machiavellian training. But those details are for another post.
LESSONS LEARNED:
- Information is NOT the problem for creating change
- We need to appeal to the emotions of others like SJWs and Donald Trump
- We have hundreds of psychological weaknesses that you can take advantage of
- In order to learn all this, the first step is practice
The BIG LESSON:
- Emotions are nature’s way of executing a command. Use it to your advantage.
If there’s interest I can post a part II showing you the exact tactics and word-for-word scripts on how to take advantage of our psychological weaknesses.
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IamGale 8y ago
Thanks GLO! Btw I never thanked you for the skype session you did with me. But it was amazing, really inspired me. Also, the “trickle-down media whore” line on the Samantha Bee Show was hilarious I hope you do more.
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IamGale 8y ago
Spot on /u/unsafeword! Great comment.
The_48_Laws 8y ago
Looking forward to a continuation of this post. You broach such a complex and interesting topic, and then the post abruptly ends.
I can only assume this was done on purpose, but I feel confident in saying that just about everyone who reads this will be dying for part two.
IamGale 8y ago
Thank you. I went all Sopranos on the ending there. But unlike the Sopranos I'll continue this.
new_cummer 8y ago
For anyone interested, Thinking, Fast and Slow by Daniel Kahneman (Nobel prize winner) talks about this in great detail.
He divides our response systems into 2 parts, System 1 and System 2 where System 1 is the instinctive, emotional, reactionary system and System 2 is rational. System 1 is where most of us live most of the time and success comes to those who are aware of both the usefulness and follies of it and have the ability to catch System 1 fucking up in the act and invoke System 2 immediately without turning System 1 into a permanent slave of System 2. This is basically being charismatic and smart at the same time, a rare combination. Many people usually sway heavily one way where System 2 dependents become philosophers and thinkers while System 1 dependents become celebrities and such.
Seduction, or manipulation, is basically being able to read someones System 1s and then activating one that would benefit you by generating circumstances that match the pattern. It's knowing someones quirks, what turns them on, what pisses them off, it's also where fake it till you make it and dress/groom well comes from. That's basically what learning game is, training your System 1 to beat other peoples System 1.
It's an amazing read, one of those books that change your world view. Especially if you're a very logical and rational person by nature.
Fetish_Goth 8y ago
I used to trip on LSD a lot and it became obvious to me at the time that emotions were instant and logic was always catching up. Being aware of it didn't help make any use of it, however. My mother always used to say "you spend too much time pontificating". All my successful friends had less raw talent but way more hustle. What I've learned from the corporate world is that it's better to get something done to an average quality than nothing done because you went over time and budget trying to be perfect. In fact, being average but dependable can be a good thing. It means you can safely screw up, as well, you can relatively easily exceed targets and earn praise. If you know you're smart, but lack motivation like a lot of people my age (<35), seek to be average outside a few areas like physical attractiveness. It will make you happier and give you room to fail and also exceed expectations. Also, to be average, you still have to do something and if you really are a smart guy, forcing yourself to do something, anything without procrastination, is all it takes to do something great once and a while.
ClericJohnPreston 8y ago
The enemy of "good" is "better".
This is a big theme in medical care.
IamGale 8y ago
Yup I agree. As Seth Godin says, you've got to ship no matter what. One of the most successful producers in Hollywood produces around 14 B Horror films every year. At least, a couple of those will earn 20x their budget. He's the guy behind paranormal activity.
He has one rule when it comes to filmmaking. Never go over budget. And never pour more extra money into a film. It seems to be working for him because he's quite successful.
NeoreactionSafe 8y ago
Excellent post.
We need to understand how to reprogram ourselves and in doing so become more aware of how to reprogram others which means how to have Game.
Until you can see your inner emotions as like a Rubik's Cube with many potential solutions which you may choose you haven't understood Frame and Game which are just the inner and outer versions of emotions.
We call the Blue Pill emotional indoctrination for a reason because it trains us emotionally in ways that suppress our consciousness and limit our growth potential. Self improvement is breaking this slavery and discovering your masculine polarity.
IamGale 8y ago
Absolutely. It's easier said than done, but this is the first and most important step.
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NeoreactionSafe 8y ago
Yeah it's simple in a sense, but actually doing it is tough.
A Rubik's Cube seems like it should be easy, but when you actually start playing with it you realize it takes some skill to get the outcome you want.
The Blue Pill preconfigures the Rubik's Cube and hands it to you and says:
"This is who you are assigned to be... so be yourself and don't screw up our programming."
The Red Pill essentially says we are allowed any configuration we choose since we can "go our own way".
Clint_Redwood 8y ago
For anyone interested in learning more about this I'll point you to learning about 'emotional state control' or 'emotional state manipulation'. Basically inducing different emotions to your body that then effect how charismatic, powerful or stoic you are.
Most people think they are completely to the whim of their emotions. Like the saying, "I just woke up on the wrong side of the bed today". This couldn't be farther from the truth in reality. You can exert great control over your body and how it conducts itself. Your emotions control your subconscious and non-verbal body language, which if you've studied game at all, you know they have a massive influence on your social interactions.
Books like "Charisma Myth" or "What Every Body Is Saying" discuss this. You'll learn methods to program your mind off triggers to induce these states quickly. Meditation and stoicism also have a great wealth of information on understanding your body and how to control it.
nevercomment 8y ago
Know of any good articles on these subjects?
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IamGale 8y ago
Thanks for the suggestions. Mike Cernovich's Gorilla Mindset also does a great job of looking at how we control our own emotions.
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Clint_Redwood 8y ago
Interesting. Is this the section that merges mammalian brain, instinct and emotions, with the logical frontal cortex? I've only studied frontal cortex as a whole, not the subsections.
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Clint_Redwood 8y ago
That's for that, I love shit like this.
Ripsaw1990 8y ago
greatest post I've ever read on TRP
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NameOfAction 8y ago
Good post. But without part 2 you risk sounding like the group of "quality potters."
PM_Me_Yo_Tits_Grrl 8y ago
Playing on his emotions! Dang, you took it this to heart.
EMON87 8y ago
46 up votes, I'd say there is interest.
aang1818 8y ago
Agreed, there isnt much noteworthy here that cant be found in the sidebar. "Hustle" aka work hard and practice is hardly groundbreaking advice
I would be interested in soecific examples and tactics though.
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Clint_Redwood 8y ago
One of my weaknesses is being charismatic and talkative. I'm a natural stoic to almost a fanatical extreme. I can go an entire day and say less than 50 words and be perfectly fine. This sounds contradictory If any of you have read my posts as you've seen how deep i can get into topics, however I find it very difficult to articulate them verbally and in the present. Writing I'm able to give a lot of time for thought and editing to give the highest quality post i can. This skill doesn't translate well to speech though.
What's the best way to fix this? Start talking to people of course, but there is only so much time in the day and it's not always an option if you're a busy person.
I noticed this in myself, from feedback on this sub I've found most people really enjoy some of my posts, so I posed myself the question, "If i can't talk to people all day due to my schedule and improve this weakness, what else can I do?"
Well the solution, which i didn't correlate to quantity over quality, was to just start talking to myself when i have the time. We'll not in the sense of having dual dialog, that's boarding crazy person. I treated it as if I was talking to a camera or giving a speech. I when I'm driving alone, riding my bike for cardio(which is usually an hour ride) I'll just speak out loud and bypass my mental narrative and speech filter. If I'm listening to music I'll force myself to sing out loud, shutting down the logical part of my brain and allowing free flow of thought.
I've noticed that when I do this for extended periods, like riding for an hour and just talking and i finally strike a conversation with someone there is a visceral difference in their engagement with me. It's crazy how much more present I am and able to hold peoples attention. All the mental barriers I've built over the years from my bluepill days just fall apart and I'm able to connect with people quickly and easily.
I suggest anyone that relates to this personal weakness try this. It's awkward as fuck at first but it's damn effective. Also thanks OP for putting some understanding behind this as it now gives me away to explain it.
IamGale 8y ago
Yea I would do something similar. On walks, I would pretend to be in a conversation with someone but really I would just record myself talking into my phone. Just talking, thinking out loud helps a ton.
Clint_Redwood 8y ago
Also a great method to verbalize your thoughts quickly for recording. I can articulate my point extremely well in my head but if i stop and try to rewrite what I just thought of, it falls on it's face and i have to focus a few times to get it down on paper. It's hell to verbalize it starting out but I'm finding myself pulling my phone out more and more to voice memo shit down.
With all things, hustle and practice makes perfect.
DoesNotMatterAnymore 8y ago
In many ways i'm same as you, but i contribute my natural stoic behaviour to lack of emotions most of the time. So keeping in line that small amount is not a challenge.
On the topic of talking to yourself. I do this for a very long time, especially when i have a problem to solve, a complex one. This could be a life issue, or work, anything. But it has a huge danger that i never noticed until now.
This might be hard to explain, even on my own language not to mention in English. Which makes the whole thing ironic.
When you are "thinking out loud" you don't speak out every information about that topic. You only speak the most important parts, since you KNOW the rest of the information. This is important. Because when you are talking to someone else, and you try to share your own view on that topic, you have to be careful enough to make sure they fully understand you. You have to share enough information to give them a chance to understand you.
Some people don't like the way i speak. Not because they don't like me, or the way i actually articulate my words, or my tone. They don't like it (i assume), because i'm not sharing enough information while i'm speaking, because i assume they get it any way. But most of the time that's not the case. And because of my behaviour they think i'm a smartass.
For example, the person you are talking to needs 100% of the information to fully understand you. If you have this "thinking out loud" mentality (so you don't speak out the whole information just the relevant), you only will share 70% of the information, so the person not gonna understand you fully. People don't want to look stupid, so they not gonna ask you for more information. There you have it, you think they understand you - since you think you shared enough information - but in reality, they don't.
tl;dr: when you explain something to somebody, be empathetic about them.
Ask yourself: am i really sharing enough information about the topic, so they have a chance to fully understand me?
randomkloud 8y ago
I know this may not be relevant to the comment you replied too but I just had an example of this happen today. I'm a dental intern and today a colleague explained to a lady about what a root canal treatment planned for her would entail. He gave a simple and easily understandable explanation. When he left I, just in case, asked her if she fully understood what we were going to do. Her response indicated to me she was totally confused.
Now when a dentist talks about an RCT they have a whole lot of knowledge about the physiology and pathology of the pulp (the part with blood and nerves in your tooth) in the back of their minds that we don't usually talk about. Talking to her I realised she didn't even know what a root canal was which made my colleague's explanation useless to her. Spending some time explaining to her using an x-ray the reasoning behind the treatment and tests we did she changed her mind on her response to the tests. Re-doing the tests with the patient more informed yielded negative results and prevented her from going through with an unnecessary, expensive dental procedure that would only damage her tooth/
trppr 8y ago
I have this exact same problem. I've been told that I come off as condescending. I'm pretty sure it's because of my word selection and that I don't share enough info. Any tips on getting over this?
DoesNotMatterAnymore 8y ago
Honestly, I'm in the process of changing this. So I can't give you a sollution. I'm going with the being more empathetic, making sure that I've shared enough information.
Clint_Redwood 8y ago
great point. This is called the expertise syndrome or more vaguely it's hard to talk about subjects that are esoteric in nature.
Having a good understanding of your peers and their capacity/understanding of the topic at hand is paramount for stuff like this.
I however wasn't really referring to any specific topic or how to convey information. I'm merely stating that talking out loud is a great way to influence your emotional state, become more charismatic and more present. And that emotional state change transfers when you start talking to others.
I might talk out loud for a while about anthropology, but then go talk to one of my friends able the football game that was just on.
The difference between talking out loud for a while before greeting your friend vs not doing that is you will be much more engaging and present if you do the former vs the latter.
Still great point you have though. Esoteric or politically incorrect material has to be handled carefully when speaking to others. Don't fall into the trap of expertise syndrome or you'll just come off as a know it all.
randomkloud 8y ago
I think he was talking specifically about this
Macrolord 8y ago
You might just be a natural narcissist like me. We think about ourselves too much instead of our environment and others. I've been taking steps to reduce the amount of time I spend thinking about myself.
It naturally gives way to effort put towards understanding others. When it comes time to socialize, you can't be in your head. It's like walking down stairs; as soon as you start thinking about the mechanism of walking down stairs, you get awkward and fall down.
One thing I've done is stopped looking at myself in any kind of reflective surface. If I need to brush my hair or shave, I only look at the area of interest and nothing else.
Ego is friction: you have a small amount of it and you can navigate ably without problem; have too much and you literally can't move. As soon as you start analyzing yourself too much, you lose all of your grace and spontaneity and the interaction grinds to a halt. But you need to have some selfishness, otherwise you're just a slave to everybody who talks to you.
I think this is why meditation and people-watching are so effective: they distance you from yourself.
Clint_Redwood 8y ago
It's not really that i am analyzing myself or being too self aware, I just find most of the conversations my peers have to be dull or lack luster. If the conversation is just small talk my eyes glaze over. If it turns to medium talk my attention perks and I'm only ever fully engaged when the conversation turns to deep talk. Otherwise I'm usually staring off into the distance in a circle of friends thinking about random shit. I do that because I was raised in the country alone so most of my adolescence my mind wired itself to contemplate things rather than verbalize them.
This method lets me now practice verbalizing my internal dialog that I've spent years honing and refining.
Macrolord 8y ago
Same. You have to get used to verbalizing your internal dialog. When you have a thought, just learn to deliver it. You'll learn that your basic thoughts are usually pathways to conversations. Don't wait until the treatise is completed to publish it.
Clint_Redwood 8y ago
yep, If you think what you are about to say in your head you just destroyed any charisma you'd project. Another good tip to practice is as soon as a girl comes into your view, immediately remark on her outfit before you even give yourself a chance to think.
I was walking out of a walgreens yesterday and saw a chick in the corner of my eye. Wearing cowboy boots and sexy as fuck. before i even had a thought,
"Nice fucking boots"
It's amazing how little shit like that can light up someones day.
Paradigmond 8y ago
This was an extraordinary post - the first I've taken notes on in a while.
IamGale 8y ago
Thank you. That's one of the best compliments I've ever received on a piece of writing.
dat_mean_no_work 8y ago
Part 2 is definitely needed.
IamGale 8y ago
I appreciate the feedback, thanks.
jorgander 8y ago
People almost invariably arrive at their beliefs not on the basis of proof but on the basis of what they find attractive (Blaise Pascal)
What most people think
We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit. (Aristotle)
IamGale 8y ago
We are creatures of habit which is the best changes I've done in my life are the ones where I implemented new long lasting habits.
TheThingsIThink 8y ago
Did into Emotional Intelligence. It covers many of the same topics. One of the things I've extrapolated is that attraction is limbic system and compatibility is prefrontal. What does that mean? You don't think about attraction, you think about compatability. Which is why people throw away great relationships on a fling
IamGale 8y ago
Hmm, interesting. So you're saying attracting bypasses our traditional logic system. And are you referencing the book Emotional Intelligence by Daniel Goldman?
TheThingsIThink 8y ago
It's more like attraction gets processed first. Yes, by Goldman.
Ask a woman what she finds attractive the list will be physical characteristics and stuff like adventurous, likes to travel, etc.
Ask her what she looks for in a husband it will be stuff like helps around the house, good family, respects women
VoidedSmash 8y ago
I would much be interested in a part two.
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Logan7493 8y ago
Need secondary post porfavor and thank you.
niceguy_gone_cad 8y ago
Very nice post full of useful info. MOAR please!
IamGale 8y ago
Thanks, I'll keep on writing! Is there anything specifically that you want to see more of?
mpgh1 8y ago
Write the second post. I need examples. thanks a lot tho
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RationalistFaith1 8y ago
This only works in a highly feminized matriarchic society... oh wait.
IamGale 8y ago
Yea I know... We have to accept reality for what it is and make the best of it.
RPAussie 8y ago
Excellent post, would love to see the 2nd part.
Will be checking out those books you mentioned.
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Macrolord 8y ago
But Stanley Kubrick and David Fincher are well known perfectionists and they have produced some of the best films ever made.
IamGale 8y ago
Good stuff comes from hard work I agree. At the beginning, a lot of people fall trap to the perfectionist syndrome or being the armchair theorist. Producing quantity over quality is a great way to over that.
InscrutablePUA 8y ago
There's one more lesson you left out: leave your audience wanting more (like a part 2).
Good post. You backed up abstract arguments with concrete examples which makes your arguments so much more persuasive. The story about the quality vs quantity potters is fantastic, and perfectly applicable to Game. Thanks to the abundance of internet information, we always feel like there's just one more theory or bit of knowledge we need to really blow open our potential. But the best seducers are the ones that read a little bit, go out and experiment, and then course correct.
Look forward to the Part 2! You better cite Cialdini and Kahneman
IamGale 8y ago
Thank you! Cialdini is the granddaddy of persuasion I'll definitely include him. And Thinking Fast and Slow is such a useful model for how our brain works. Thanks for the input.
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sherlocksmith 8y ago
You should check out some of GavinMcInnes stuff. Funny as well
IamGale 8y ago
Thanks for the recommendation. I'll check him out.
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IamGale 8y ago
Hmm interesting. What do you mean her need? Tell me more.
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IamGale 8y ago
Thanks for the response. Don't assume that what I write is what I believe. Just like how authors will write different good and evil characters that doesn't mean they themselves are good or evil.
Personally, writing different perspectives is one of the best ways for me to expand my knowledge base. That's how I like to view it.
iLLprincipLeS 8y ago
Keep it amoral, it's the only way to pass as moral while being immoral.
CardinalGuitar 8y ago
The ceramics story is extremely insightful & I really liked your post on Donald Trump and the 11 techniques. I would say keep up the quality work, but in light of the ceramics teacher: Keep up the quantity work.
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PragmaticRedTruth 8y ago
Great. Now how can I do this?
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esotruthic 8y ago
Trump never said ["Mexicans are rapists and drug smugglers"], he said that a lot of the people coming through illegally were, after there was a study released saying this. A lot of the people in Mexico deal with the issue too of people coming through on their way to the US. It's the media that said he said this about Mexicans generally.
MuzakNinja 8y ago
You don't win at life by making life shitty for people. Your thesis is a contradiction and your methods are self-defeating.
SmilingWatermelon 8y ago
Write the second post. I need examples.
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oliver_21 8y ago
Knowledge without application is dead.
IamGale 8y ago
Knowledge without application can even make it worse. Analysis paralysis may kick in and the knowledge might even become a road map.
ArkAngelEV 8y ago
Slow clap... building up to a crescendo
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clonegreen 8y ago
It's so amazing to see what kind of road blocks are minds come up with that are based off what's essentially a self-defense mechanism which at some point helped our ancestors.
I found out through a 23 and me test that I have what's known as a warrior gene, which essentially means I'm more inclined to be naturally aggressive and anti-social.
I'm sure we're all flooded with potentially advantageous and damaging genes which have to be worked with in this modern era.
IamGale 8y ago
That's really interesting. I want to do one of those 23 and me test.
Zombie_Eskel 8y ago
Voting yes for psychological weaknesses post
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aviolentstream 8y ago
Definitely interested in reading more.
IamGale 8y ago
Thanks, I'll be following this up.
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jtrette77 8y ago
This is all stuff we already know. Like most of what is posted in this group it adds absolutely nothing new. Just once I'd like to see one of these pseudo-authors provide something of substance and use. Just saying "work hard, be alpha" is not enough.
moby18 8y ago
That's what it boils down to most of the time
jtrette77 8y ago
Very true. And because of that we don't need to an entire novel of long winded bullshit to explain what could be said in a short paragraph.