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Any man who has been in an LTR with a mid-20s/early-30s woman has most likely experienced her "baby fever." All of the sudden, the idea of babies creep into every aspect of your relationship with her: she converses about babies, she wanders to the baby section of Target, she watches videos of cute babies, etc. It comes in waves, more frequently as she gets older. And her boyfriend - the main man in her life - have had to weather the storms.

There are two evolutionary reasons for "baby fever." The first, of course is that women are biologically designed to bear children, but they only have a limited amount of time to do so. So they have a "biological clock" that is ticking away throughout her young adulthood. This forces her to find a man to provide for her and her offspring. Once she finds a suitable partner. the "baby fever" is a subconscious method of worming into her partner's thoughts.

The second reason is social pressure. When one woman has a baby, all of her friends suddenly want to have one too. It's like clockwork, so predictable. Why is that? Because to a woman, having a baby signals that she is worthy of a man's time and resources. So when one of her friends has a baby, she subconsciously feels like she's less worthy; therefore, she desires to become impregnated as soon as possible to prove to her friends that she is also valuable.

"Baby fever" is not indicative of a woman's capability to mother children. Many woman get "baby fever." But some women will be shitty moms, some will be saints, and most will be average. It is up to men to pick which women are worthy enough to raise their offspring. And it is also each man's responsibility to create children on his own terms and timeline; he should not cave in to pressure from society or his girlfriend.

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Typo-MAGAshiv 1 1w ago

This used to be common sense.

Vermillion-Rx Admin 1w ago

Agreed

Vermillion-Rx Admin 1w ago

I agree with typo, none of this post is wrong or anything but it's a water is wet post

There is a lot more to why women have baby fever evolutionarily speaking, the post was very surface level for evolutionarily psychology and biology

@typo-MAGAshiv

Lone_Ranger 1 1w ago

Tbh, I didn't get much from reading this post.

I have never had much time for men that scorn women for having 'baby fever' or 'baby rabies'. The kind of man that thinks their girlfriend is being unreasonable if they yearn for a child.

What do you think is the purpose of having a woman in an LTR? Serious question.

I wish more young men would wake up to this fact: there really is no other purpose of forming a bond with a women other than for the express purpose of creating and raising children within a stable union.

Everything else is pretty much pointless.

First-light 1w ago

This is true. If a woman does not really want to have children, something is wrong with her.

I would not underplay the nurturing, supporting value of a woman in a traditional type relationship where that is part of her role but beyond that reproduction is the only other useful goal in seeking a financial burden that will hold you back form your interests and friends.

Sex is only the attractive force that helps us reproduce. Sex as a goal itself is a draining waste of time for men. Granted sexual frustration can drive a man crazy and harm his self esteem (particularly a young man) and something may need to be done about it to get sex even if its not productive sex -sex with a woman you hope to raise family with. However, I would sooner laugh at a PUA who lives to pick women up for casual sex than a woman with baby rabies -who is only functioning correctly.

Where women are unreasonable when it comes to having children is when they use the current system to let them have a child and never bother putting any effort in again, just live off the man or the state ungratefully, whether single, married or divorced. Women are not expected by society to put much in these days but entitled to take a lot out when they have children.

whytehorse2021 1w ago

From an evolutionary biology/psychology perspective, baby fever in women can be explained by several factors related to reproductive success:

Selection Pressures:

Perpetuating Genes: Throughout human evolution, women who had a strong desire to reproduce and care for children were more likely to pass on their genes to future generations. This selection pressure favored the development of biological and psychological mechanisms that promote childbirth.

Hormonal Influences:

Estrogen and Progesterone: Fluctuations in these hormones throughout the menstrual cycle can influence mood and behavior. During ovulation, when estrogen and progesterone are high, women might experience an increased desire for intimacy and nurturing, which can translate into baby fever.
Oxytocin: This hormone is often called the "love hormone" and "bonding hormone." It plays a role in social bonding, attachment, and maternal behaviors. Increased oxytocin levels can trigger feelings of warmth, protectiveness, and a desire to care for others, potentially contributing to baby fever.

Psychological Factors:

Parental instincts: Humans are social creatures with an inherent drive to nurture and care for offspring. This instinct can manifest as a desire to have children and experience parenthood.
Social Learning: Witnessing others having children, positive portrayals of parenthood in media, and societal expectations around family life can influence a woman's desire to have children.
Biological Clock: As women age, their fertility naturally declines. This awareness can sometimes trigger a sense of urgency or "biological clock ticking," leading to baby fever.

Important to Note:

Baby fever is not a universal experience.
Cultural factors, access to education and birth control, and personal career aspirations can all influence a woman's desire to have children.
The intensity and timing of baby fever can vary significantly between individuals.

In conclusion, baby fever is a complex phenomenon influenced by a combination of biological, hormonal, and psychological factors. It's a product of our evolutionary past and serves as a potential mechanism to promote successful reproduction.

Lone_Ranger 1 1w ago

you give a good reply, with plenty of detail.

Another thing to add.....

I really am perplexed why young men seem to think that a woman with 'baby fever' is some sort of red flag. I would say the opposite. A woman with baby fever / baby rabies is a normal healthy woman that wants to reproduce. The desire to reproduce is the entire point of life. It is the only good reason to enter into an LTR with a person of opposite gender.

In my experience, it is not wanting to have children that is the biggest red flag that I can think of. A woman that doesn't want to have children has some serious issues

They realise that they are worthless and don't want to pass on their useless genetics to their offspring
They are eternal children - they have not reached mental maturity. This is far more common in women than men. Boys obtain great benefit from becoming men. For females its different - they know that being a teenage girl is the highlight of their entre lives. They will never be this spoilt again - never so free of consequence, never so praised, never so treated as a princess. They fear going into adulthood, because the party will be over.

this is why you see so much 'kidult' behaviour in women. Women of 30 years old will still have all their clothes on the floor, still use 'hello kitty' pencil cases, still have the snoopy t shirt in bed, still lust after Justin Beiber and say 'like' 5 times in every sentence.

They are holding on to their childhood.

A woman of 30 that is behaving like a child and 'doesn't want to have children' is aiming to regress into a childlike state. She will go dating looking for a man as a replacement daddy, so that she can be an eternal child.

Be warned. A woman without baby fever / rabies is a total waste of space, time and resources and will not want to have sex with her ersatz daddy (that would be you).

whytehorse2021 1w ago

Yeah there are 2 kinds of baby rabies: one for status and one for genuine reasons. The status ones are a red flag. They're typically 30+ and feel like they have to "settle", setting the man up for divorce later on.

Lone_Ranger 1 1w ago

I'm not so sure that its possible to know the difference.

I don't think that you can point women over 30 and reliably say that they want a baby 'for status'.

What has usually happened is that they have spent their 20s on the CC. And then they realise, (around 33) that its closing time.

There is no way to know if they want a baby for what you call 'genuine reasons' or 'for status'.

It's always worth separating in your own head what is knowable and what is not knowable. Their internal motivations are not knowable.

What we can know about a woman that gets to 33 and has spent the last 15 years in a game of musical dicks is that she did not prioritise starting a family.

She optimised her situation by jumping from cock to cock because that is what gave her more utility. We know this because her behaviours have proved it. So if her priority was validation through promiscuity, then we know that she values promiscuity over and above reproduction.

As always, ignore what they say and observe what they do.

whytehorse2021 1w ago

It's pretty obvious when a woman genuinely wants kids. They will seek that out early and have it as a priority. It's typically ingrained through her upbringing. Any woman who doesn't do that is prioritizing career and education where children come in as priority #7. These women are also setting up a back-up plan in case the marriage doesn't work out.