I know what you're thinking - "but every woman has male friends!"
No. Every woman has orbiters and guys that she's either fucking or stringing along with sex. Those men aren't her friends.
Think about the male friends that you have. Think about how you can rely on them for actual shit. Now imagine doing those things with a woman. You can't, can you? Because women are shit friends to men and the only reason a man keeps women around is the potential for sex.
When you see a woman with a lot of male friends (even gay ones), do not date her under any circumstances.
Reason 1: she's surrounded by emergency dick.
Every man that calls himself her "friend" is in one of three categories: men who have fucked her, men who are fucking her, or men who want to fuck her. All three of those categories will happily be emergency dick should you get on bad terms with her. Some of them will be fine with their position in orbit, others will constantly try to undermine you because you're taking the only potential pussy they have access to.
Reason 2: you're competing against Frankenstein's boyfriend
A woman who has multiple male friends has them for various roles - she has one for fun, one for fucking, one for getting her around town, one for buying her things, etc. If she has a need, she's got a man to take care of it.
And here you come, just one guy, expecting to compete with that? You never stood a chance. Everything you do will be met with a comparison to one of her friends - you're not as hot as Mark, you're not as smart as Darren, you're not as handy as James, etc.
You will never be enough, no matter how much you give and it will linger in the back of her mind.
Reason 3: "Friends" require maintenance
Women with a roster of men have to dedicate time to their upkeep, lest she lose their services. The upkeep takes shape in different ways - sometimes it's as simple as a text message, sometimes it's going out, sometimes it's sex. Regardless of what it is, it's energy that is deliberately poured into other men at your expense.
Now, if you're just having a casual thing with a woman, then fine. But usually these kind of women want 100% effort and commitment from the men they want. She would not be okay if you were maintaining your roster while being in a relationship with her.
Vermillion-Rx Admin 1y ago Stickied
Supplemental reading:
The "Insatiable Alpha Window"
aka frankenchad
StayInTheFrame 1y ago
Nice read, OP.
TJMS 1y ago
Here's another reason: In my personal experience, a women can only/mostly have male friends because her insufferable personality drives away most people who aren't trying to fuck her.
Seagram7 1y ago
Once an orbiter, always an orbiter. They never get 'promoted'. You're only solution is to move on. It's a bit like the girl who moves to LA to become a movie star, but while she waits for the big role, she is a stripper. They never get the big movie roles.
The ones that do get promoted to husband status were NOT orbiters. They were the backup plan.
EurasianChad 1 1y ago
Can't disagree with anything here. Good post.
For any girl I interact with, I always make sure there's at least an equal value exchange, if not tipped in my favor.
You need to be ruthless and callous in cutting out bitches who don't serve your purpose. No if, buts, maybe's.
And would you look at that. Many times I'll have girls paying for my dinners, paying for my gas, coming to my place to fuck and bring me pizza and massage me. Some girls aren't down for the program, which is cool, but now I'll show her the door.
EurasianChad 1 1y ago
Edit: found something I don't agree with
I think a better perspective of looking at it would be: You CANT and SHOULDN'T try to become her #1 guy. That's extremely beta to bend your personality to try and fit 1 girls mold. What kind of loser with 0 options does that? That's out of my reality and blows my mind that some guys do this.
You can, however, still use her for recreational use only.
Vermillion-Rx Admin 1y ago
Solid post
Desertking 1y ago
Absolutely true 10000%
Overkill_Engine 3 1y ago
If she has a history of eating man à la carte, she's going to have a future of the same.
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Vermillion-Rx Admin 1y ago
They actually have female friends and family and don't have time for 20 thirsty men to fuck or string along or hours to spend getting 1000 followers on their socials to dick around with
Problematic_Browser 1 1y ago
Women are fully capable of rejecting men that provide no usefulness to them. They do it all the time.