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Problematic_Browser 1 1y ago
If men have no incentive to produce beyond their means, they won't.
In the past, we had reasons that extended beyond the need to provide for a family - even single men strapped up their boots and went to work. We knew that society was worth building, preserving, and protecting even if we didn't benefit directly from it.
Because men are good people.
Men literally run into burning buildings to save strangers. Men face down machine guns to protect strangers. Men build buildings and pave roads and grow food for millions of strangers they will never meet.
Because men are good people.
Now, society has removed the incentive to be good and rewards the fat, dumb, and lazy. You can make more money being an IfLuEnCer than working an honest job. Moral uprightness is seen as outdated. Intellectual strength, seen as passe.
There are no incentives for men to build, maintain, or protect and men are checking out. We're taking our ball and going home because there's no reason to do otherwise.
whytehorse2021 1y ago
Yeah and it's men like me. Sure, I could go teach high schoolers math and physics and get them top scores internationally... but I don't. I can do full stack development... but I don't. I can do scientific programming... but I don't.
Nope, instead I sit at home and make video games that I'd like to play. Fuck this society. Maybe they can import Filipino teachers... hire Indian programmers... import Chinese programmers... I won't be lifting a finger to help them and I'm not cleaning up any messes they leave. And I'm bailing as soon as my game sales make me enough to do so.
Overkill_Engine 2 1y ago
Yup, men are starting to drop out entirely or "quiet quitting" at a societal level.
Why generate a surplus if it is just going to be taken from you to support ingrates and leeches at no benefit to you and yours?
swoosh 9mo ago
The incentive was an illusion all along. Worthwhile women are incredibly few and far between. Most men are beast of burden for an ungrateful sociopathic and frigid woman. Some put up a better front than others. That's it
nicknack 1y ago
They’ll just import more. Like they’ve been doing. The vast majority of people coming in to the US are young adult men. If it was the other way around, and it was all young adult women pouring into the country by the tens of millions I don’t think we’d see women marching on the streets virtue signaling for immigrants like we do today.
But that would never happen, because women don’t build, they wait at the finish line and setup tent. They don’t build the gas lines, streets, plumbing, metal framing, cement, electrical or anything that goes into building the skyscraper downtown. They walk into it when it’s done and demand to be 50% of the boardroom.
Seagram7 1y ago
Her: "I am a strong independent Wahmen, I don't need me no man." Him: "That's OK. You do you. By the way, I'm going on a date with Mai Ling this weekend." Her: "We need to close our borders, get rid of all this diversity and inclusion and a bit more racism here and there wouldn't hurt either."
Women HATE competition and anything that takes away from them any attention and validation. It ties directly into their instincts for survival and reproduction. When 80% of women are already jockeying in line for the top 20% of men then you add another source from the outside as more competition; you will start seeing even the most liberal, immigrant loving, man hating feminist sound like a Klansman and start preaching that we need to shut down immigration NOW!!!!
Sweden is currently experiencing this anti female immigration backlash. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WcuarfqJIRo It's perfectly fine to flood Nordic countries with military age males that are proving to be dangerous, hence the term rapeugee i.e. Malmo, Sweden. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pochreLwrQs which is now a dangerous NO GO zone. But when you introduce petite feminine Thai girls and Swedish men are going for them instead of the current lot of shrieking feminist, then immigration is a problem.
The 2007 short film Dennis and the later full length feature 2012 Teddy Bear https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5ZseyEe0dQ are both about a Danish bodybuilder that finds love with a Thai woman. The main character is huge, as he can pick you up and literally rip you in half. Yet he is painfully shy and awkward and has no social skills with women, he is a 38 year old kiss-less virgin. The reason he is so big is revealed that he takes all his pain, hurt and sorrow and puts it into weightlifting. There is a scene where these two 304s are obviously propositioning him for sex when he is at the gym. His response is to put on more weight on the bar and lift even more. The films main theme is that he can find happiness with a woman and ride off into the sunset---if it's with a petite feminine Asian woman and not a native 304 that acts like a constant bitch.
You would think the answer is for western women to change their behavior...nah that's too hard. It is way easier to change your country's immigration policy. I have said that if hot Ukrainian women flooded western Europe and men started wifing them up in large numbers, watch how fast Slava Ukraini goes out the window.
nicknack 1y ago
Why would they? They act the way they do because of the circumstances. The only way to change behavior is to change circumstances. If they can get away with being argumentative whores with tats and demands, and guys are still lining up around the block, why bother.
It’s only when she has competition that is kind, feminine, no tats or big body count that she will have to improve.
RedPirate751 1y ago
Gotta ask...wtf is a 304?
lurkerhasarisen 1y ago
It's internet slang for, "Hoe."
RedPirate751 1y ago
I've been on the internet awhile and never seen that one before! Haha
Overkill_Engine 2 1y ago
This is literally the only immigration policy we should allow (if any at all) if the domestic population is not reproducing at or above replacement rate. Anything else is a guaranteed recipe for disaster. Women only want men above them on the totem pole for long term mating, so anything devaluing domestic men is going to destabilize your nation.
And established nations typically do not need foreign men to help with reproduction. Domestic men can easily do it if the market conditions are not abusive towards them.
nicknack 1y ago
They don’t bring in immigrants to improve the country; they bring them in to maximize their profit and government control.
If things reversed and it was mostly female immigrants being brought in, that wouldnt be importing a productive workforce. You can’t drive wages down importing women, they don’t produce anything near what men do and they demand more money than men while they’re at it.
Domestic men would also be able to easily find wives and start families as immigrants are lower on the socioeconomic latter so domestic men would just marry them en masse. More cohesive family units = less control of the government and elites.
That would just greatly empower domestic men both in the workforce and the home. Exactly the opposite of the goal.
Overkill_Engine 2 1y ago
Oh well aware, that shit is why I think a condition of holding public office should require forfeiting any dual citizenships, implantation of an invisible border fence tracker chip for life, and the only passport/foreign trips for life allowed are ones explicitly for carrying out a duty of office.
When the ruling class no longer has the option to flee like locusts looking for new fields they'd be a lot more invested in the health of the nation.
Seagram7 1y ago
NO LAND
NO WORK
NO PUSSY
NO TAXES
NO MILITARY SERVICE
SIMPLE AS: 60 million prime working age white men in the US have dropped out of society and this number as uncoupled and in 10 years and shows absolutely no sign of slowing down
Under the current form of the social contract no matter how much you work, how much you sacrifice. The bottom 95% of men will never obtain all 3, the bottom 80% will never obtain 2/3, and the bottom 60% will never obtain even one. The smart ones realized 10 - 15 years ago. Now the dumber ones are starting to become aware of their own situations
The social contract has been destroyed beyond repair
whytehorse2021 1y ago
I must be really smart since I realized it 18 years ago. Let it rot. Oh, some lady needs her car jump started? Sure I'll do it... for $100. Since we're no longer being polite and civil to each other, fuck it. I damn near killed some bitches dog that wasn't leashed and came after my son while we were frisbee golfing.
There are 64.42 million men of prime working age in the US(of all races). The article said it's only 7.2million that aren't working. About a third of those men are white. So like 20million - 7.2 million = 12.8million white men working.
One thing you might have noticed is that the labor force participation rate has returned to 1960s levels where women usually stayed home. That means the ladies must be picking up the slack for all the missing men. I just took my bike in for a chain repair and sure as shit: 1 Asian dude doing all the work and 2 white women doing all the sales. They had no clue what I was talking about when I told them the rear derailleur tensioner is hosed and just sent me over to the Asian dude. These stats make it all make sense now.
When you combine this with the fact that genZ is the smallest generation in history and they're not even dating, there is going to be a major economic contraction that just won't stop. Right now I'm supporting a family of 4 with $36k/yr and food stamps. What a miserable payout for working hard, going to college and serving my country.
Lone_Ranger 1 1y ago
Thats because the workplace is toxic for men. It's too risky.