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Seagram7 1y ago
Society is designed for the benefit of women and men exist in a natural state that is the antithesis of society. Meaning that man would rather live primitively, as George of the jungle or Enkidu the wild man, being one with nature, being a conquer of his own domain, challenging himself against nature to survive and being content with this struggle of survival. This is why men above women find such simple pleasures and joy in activities that are struggles, camping, building, survival, fitness, team sports/competitive ness, because this is our primal brain.
The only thing that makes us not act like this, is women, because they provide the one thing we can not, which is pussy. This is why women's roles in life are to tame man, to bring him in from the wild and make him part of civilization. Example Jane brining Tarzan into civilization, Enkidu being lured by the temple whores, even beauty and the beast.
This created an unspoken contact between men and women, men would give up the way they want to live, as wild men, and join civilization which would protect women, and near guarantee them pussy, companionship, and offspring, some thing that a wild life style can not guarantee. The unspoken contract existed for thousands of years, until recently.
The contract is being broken, men are being told to live against what nature tells them to live as, the wild man, and be a part of civilization to no benefit of their own. In the age before technology this would result in men gathering together and partaking in the aforementioned activates to grow stronger, more wild, and thus more appealing to women's nature of taming the wild beast.
But because women specifically are so inundated to modern social media and the admiration of an entire world of men, they have shrugged their duties to tame men, and as a result, men are remaining wild. But because of the current age of technology we live in, mans ability to return to a wild state is road blocked. Were as before their satisfaction for conquest and survival would be met in the wild with other men performing group activates of competition, betterment and survival that would result in them being a more appealing candidate, men are lured in by satisfaction though desire, and lusts. Able to spend time and feel conquest through video games, porn, virtual worlds, shitty chat boards like this. This is why men are checking out, because its a compounding problem.
Men are meant to live as wild beings.
Joining society and civilization for men means giving up the preferred wild life style for the promise of pussy, companionship, and off spring.
Women are meant to tame these wild men.
Women are no longer taming men
Men are not able to grow in a healthy wild state due to the addiction of drugs, porn, garbage diets, video games resulting in them never developing that wild appeal.
Because men no longer benefit in society and civilization they are checking out of it.
This is no one single sex's cause or issues, nor is one of them at fault more then the other. Both have been lured in and trapped by devices and system that ran out of control and the power that they hold and the effect they have on civilization is not fully understood, and we are seeing the repercussions of it.
Typo-MAGAshiv 1 1y ago
If anything, for the past several decades men are tamed from birth via being (metaphorically) neutered through conditioning, and women are goddamn wild.
whytehorse2021 1y ago
I think the blame can be placed on women since they are the majority and turn out more to vote. This is literally the world they voted for. We all know this but have a hard time putting it into words. This is why young guys snap and shoot up schools or kill themselves or both. It's like they're hitting back at women where they are most vulnerable: taking out their Chads and Chad-babies. Then everyone sits around and goes "Oh my gooooood... why would he do that? I just can't figure out the motive...".
nicknack 1y ago
I’m not so sure if I will be so quick to blame women, because the smartest most capable and strongest people of our society have handed over the keys to literal children who are emotional uncapable and weak. That’s like a man giving the keys to his car to a 8 year old child, and then saying its the child’s fault they crashed into a ditch. Technically speaking, it is the child’s fault however, the child shouldn’t be driving in the first place and I would place the blame on the adult for giving them the keys.
whytehorse2021 1y ago
No, women aren't children. What you're saying is more like blaming a 62yr old man for what his adult son does, despite knowing better.
Moromu 1y ago
Clarey has this 'Book of numbers' I think is the title there he calculates % of marriageable women in US Is 1.5 to 2.5%
I THINK thers more numbers
nicknack 1y ago
I’d say that’s pretty accurate. She has to be kind, not fat, not promiscuous, and no tattoos. So about 1% in the US. So really, it’s the top 5 percent of men competing for the top 1%, meanwhile the rest of the population is better off single and not dating.
Moromu 1y ago
I #tarted to look at that bilologically.
My dixk wants to spray the juice - maybe with outcome; to do that one needs to fake it and one doesn't need to even try to make it. Because there is no long term winning the game. If you're not top x% you will most likely not get it far enough, if you are you don't want it as spinning plates happens on its own.
Based on that man should develop fucked up strategies. Fucked up as something that you would never consider in healthy society. Not talking about harming anyone ofc.
I got something of sorts but I need to cover the bases and then among others satisfy biological goals of hind brain
nicknack 1y ago
Just go over seas and have your children there. Send them money each month and fuck the disgusting pieces of shit that American women are today for fun - because they sure as hell have no problem taking another dick
pofkaf 1y ago
Good to know that I'm a top male!
No-Stress-Cat 1y ago
And here it is another 10 years later, so shit is REALLY skewed.
Lone_Ranger 1 1y ago
What a coincidence - I said about a month ago that its not the top 20% of men that are doing the shagging, its more like the top 5%. And here is the data to support my theory! I instinctively felt that 20% is too generous.
I think that this is especially true when it comes to teens and 20s - the sexual market place is quite different in this age group. I can remember how it was for the 'normal' guys, they weren't able to get a sniff of it.
This seems to broaden out quite a bit when women decide to 'get serious about dating'...(letting go of the CC, time to find financially responsible male to help replication project). This epoch, from about 28-38 is when the 20-30% of men get to smash, usually by pretending that they are interested in 'settling down'. It's a different kind of interaction, the market place moves from bars and clubs to OLD and 'dates'.
But the most amount of smashing is done by the 5%, the triple digit body counts. I think that it might even be more extreme than this data suggests - I highly suspect that there is a 1% that is scooping nearly all of the beef curtains out there.
Overkill_Engine 2 1y ago
Of course, the majority of (legal) status markers available for males at that age range are nearly all athletics/entertainment related - provider game and its adjacents aren't going to work out when you can't get a high paying job. The girls in class generally don't give a shit at that time about guys that can run AUTOCAD programs well enough to build a vehicle from the ground up, their resource needs are still being handled by their parents and the State.
Really makes me think the people that espouse things like UBI are fucking morons, those systems are just going to accelerate social collapse by undermining the negotiating power of men that actually build and maintain society.
whytehorse2021 1y ago
UBI would actually stabilize society but they gotta do a better job of selling it to people. Alaska already has something similar and several trials have been conducted elsewhere. The key is to call it a "sovereign wealth fund" and derive the money from gov't investments and sales of natural resources. Saudi has been doing this since the 70s. When I was young Colorado would refund taxes if they collected too much.
I mean I'd actually prefer just getting a check every month rather than a gov't agency sending a check to my landlord, a food card with money, free health care, free dental, free therapy, etc. Then I could just go somewhere that I'm treated better and my money goes further.
We, as a society, have to recognize that in order for there to be winners, there have to be losers. Losers that get no benefit from society become malcontent so it's in our own best interest to share the benefits. Even if there are people who would be fine with the bare minimum and sit around all day doing nothing, that just drives up wages for the people willing to do all these shitty jobs to get more than the bare minimum. If single moms want to spend all their free money on themselves and not their kids they get their kids taken and their money cut accordingly. Same thing with couples. You can just divide the GDP by the population and come up with something like $70,249 for every man, woman, and child. That's a huge incentive to shack up and make babies and claim their UBI jointly.
Anyway, if I got $70k/yr I could live like a King overseas and leave the little US ladies to their top 1% men. This would decrease the competition for men who aren't getting any. In fact, if all the men not getting any left the country there wouldn't be any men for these hoes to settle with when they hit the epiphany phase. Then these women would have to join a lower tier harem with a top 20% guy.
So I see UBI quite differently and from a man's perspective it's all upside. You can get yourself a foreign wife, get her citizenship, and double your household income. Live abroad, away from clown world. If you're one of the winners in looks or the economy you're worth even more both in the US and globally.
Most women will just have to go without husbands and their kids won't have dads. They'll have to deal with shortages of workers in the form of longer and longer waits to get a car fixed, a roof repaired, etc. They may even resort to exchanging sex for services.
So when we ponder accelerating social collapse, it's a good thing because it's actually collapsing the gynocentric social order. And that's a good thing.
Lone_Ranger 1 1y ago
same as Einsamer - going to have to burst your bubble on UBI - nobody is suggesting that you get $70k a year. The original suggestion of UBI has now been so exaggerated that is meaningless - getting 70k a year to not work? That's not the original suggestion.
The way that UBI could work is like this - it would mean a pay out of for every adult. The amount varies quite a bit, but lets say its $1,000 per adult per month. This is part 1 of the idea, the thing that is less well understood is that in order for this to work, we need part 2: This $1000 is supposed to replace EVERY SINGLE OTHER kind of welfare payment. You get this, but only this. So, this is your unemployment benefit, your food stamps, your pension, your student support ...thats what you get and only that. That means that there are no more welfare offices, no applications and no assessments. No appeals, no welfare officers etc etc.
The reason why this appeals to economists (like myself) is this: we have built a welfare industry. In the UK today, There are almost 100,000 people employed in the business of administering welfare. There are over 27 different types of welfare benefits that you can claim, or attempt to claim. Many people claim multiple types of welfare all at the same time. Some people have several aliases and claim multiple benefits in the names of dozens of people. The fraud and waste numbers are huge. There are millions of people that are entitled to welfare benefits that cannot claim them because they are not good at paperwork or don't understand the hundreds of hoops that you have to go through, or don't have the hours to put into the project, and can't get through to the call centres. Then there are countless other people that are not entitled to claim but do anyway. It's a total mess.
So, UBI is the solution whereby we say - there are no more claims, no forms to fill out. We close down the dole offices and the call centres. We sack over 100,000 people. Your 1000 a month is your student loan, your student grant, your unemployment coverage, your pension payment, your disability payment, your food stamps - its all you will ever get.
For most people, it would work as a tax rebate. Because we would have to increase tax a bit to pay it. So, for the average person, you'd pay about 800 a month extra in tax, but you'd be getting your 1000 a month UBI, so you'd be better off.
the beauty of the UBI is that it is not means tested. So if you earn a million a month and you are a billionaire, you still get it. Most people hate that aspect of it, but that's the beauty of it. Because if its not means tested, we don't need 100,000 retards in offices 'making assessments' and the fraud and waste that goes with that.
whytehorse2021 1y ago
I see your point but a millionaire isn't going to notice $12k additional income. A person making $12k definitely would. So the UK is just replacing one unfair and unequal system with another. When equality and fairness clash, people prefer fair inequality. Taking from the rich and giving to the poor is unfair to the rich but more equal. People don't like that.
So it sounds like you guys don't have your priorities straight. You should be striving for fair inequality. A number of things can achieve this but getting a share of the nation's collective wealth through a sovereign wealth fund is certainly the most fair. The unequal part comes when people decide to work anyway and make more money, which is also more fair.
Lone_Ranger 1 1y ago
the point is this - there are so few very rich people that it doesn't matter if they don't like it. one man one vote - democracy makes UBI appealing. The intention of UBI is NOT to make society more equal, its to make the re-distribution of wealth more efficient. The current system is so crap its not fit for purpose.
One of the major flaws of the current system is that if you are on welfare, going out and getting a part time min wage job will result in you losing benefits. Which is called the 'welfare wedge' ...it keeps people poor and robs them of a way out of poverty. The UBI system would allow people to work part time. which gets them out into the work place, where they can develop skills, and be less depressed.
If the UBI is done properly, it really has serious potential to make society and the economy much much better. But you have to be really strict about not letting interested parties (incumbents) lobby for watering it down so that it doesn't work. For example, the 100,000 people that are employed in welfare distribution are going to fight tooth and nail to NOT have UBI, because it means the end of their career. This is why you can clearly feel that the welfare dept so obviously encourages fraud. The more fraud we have, the better it is for them, because then they get to do more assessments and investigations. I've never seen a system that so clearly incentivies fraud than the UK welfare system.
I would put it even stronger - unless we get rid of the current system, we will collapse under the weight of a monster.
whytehorse2021 1y ago
Right, I see your point. I'm currently dealing with 3 do-nothing agencies. The solution to my problems is to get me a job. I'm dealing with the job center with no luck, the disability vocational rehab center with no luck, and now a private 3rd party gov't contractor job center. All of these people are minorities and women and fat AF.
Einsamer 1y ago
You have a very wrong idea about UBI and how it will play out. First of all, they WILL not pay it out if you go overseas. I don't have to go into more detail because that already crushes all your hopes.
whytehorse2021 1y ago
They already do if you're disabled or retired on SS.
Einsamer 1y ago
So? That's a completely different story.
whytehorse2021 1y ago
You can look at this one of two ways:
Inequality in the sexual marketplace getting more unequal
If you go with #2 you just go to another marketplace. Are you going to go to McDonalds and pay $10 for Big Mac meal that has manufactured patties that keep getting smaller and flatter, some fried potatoes, and a drink that are all thrown together sloppily with bad customer service and messy tables and floors.... or are you going to go to Burger Ranch and pay $10 for anything from fish and chips to a triple-stacked jalapeno bacon burger with so-so customer service and clean tables and floors?
I know, guys will say "But feminism is spreading, no markets are safe..." or "if you get a foreign bride you gotta keep her in her country because she'll get contaminated in the US". So this brings us back to the specific conditions which create this isolated market: welfare, divorce laws, custody laws, #metoo laws, simps, etc. Does that exist in other markets? No, not outside of Western countries. This is why you pick a specific market with conditions that don't artificially inflate it. You don't go to Wendys and get a sucky combo because McDonalds has sucky combos. You go to Burger Ranch.
I don't see why guys aren't picking up on this. Passport Bros has black women on their knees because there is now no supply of decent black men who accept shittier and shittier women. It's just supply and demand. Go where the market treats you best. Whether that's Latin America, SE Asia, E. Europe, Africa, etc.
financehardo420 1y ago
I am the 1% >=]