Why are men on red pill spaces have such an idealistic view on other men. Except for a few men here most will get defensive when asked about male nature.
One has to dissect female nature in order to understand red pill but when it comes to dissecting male nature men suddenly get defensive and have a sort of idealistic worldview.
Our ancestors survived by killing other men and taking their women and resources. A part of that exists in us in the form of AMOG.
Why is it so difficult for people to grasp that most men are hardwired into making you fail so that they can spit on your corpse and take stacy?
People will preach about 48 laws of power and what not but when it comes to discussing them using field reports, most people will abuse you.
Edit: fellas in case it wasn't apparent, I wasn't hating on men. A lot of the people commenting seem to be on the anger phase. You people are projecting stuff on me which is so not cool. No most men don't understand male nature if they did so they wouldn't get duped or scammed and the world would be crime free.
No-Stress-Cat 1y ago
One thing I still haven't figured out...why do we spit in the toilet before taking a leak?
beingasanocean 1y ago
bruh you are literally writing on a forum where men try to help each other score women.
Stop thinking like a feminist and saying all men are the same. You just have sucky friends
LongDickloanshark 1y ago
Your mind can comprehend awalt but it can't comprehend AMALT. AWALT was made on the basis of female nature.
This is exactly the retardation I am talking about. An online forum like this can exit because it's in the virtual world where men have little possibility to give you a compitition in your local market.
If men would help out each other irl then this forum wouldn't exist and you wouldn't come here looking for advice.
You have to be a special kind of retard if you actually believe that men look out for each other ( specially when they have no self interest in it for them).
Even in red pill spaces you have to carefully vet through content as a huge chunk of it is being used by grifters to sell you their course or their ponzi scheme. All they had to do is copy paste some genuine advice and use it as a plug to their scheme.
Men literally kill each other for resources, for women, steal from each other. You have to be a special autist who doesn't leave his suburban garage of his parents to think that the human race is good natured.
No matter what special part of the world you live in, crime exists in some form or the other. If you can't see it you are either a dense mf or someone who likes to delude himself in order to appear like goody two shoes whose thoughts consists of butterflies and rainbows. Classic niceguy behaviour.
beingasanocean 1y ago
Cool story bro. You wrote a damn essay hating on men because your dumb friends didn't like your beard. Just because your friends criticize whatever you do doesn't mean my friends are like that. Just because I joined a forum online doesn't mean I don't know people who think the same IRL. Your logic is like: this guy joined a philosophy discussion forum, therefore nobody in real life is interested in that. Do you realize how retarded it sounds?
Join a gym, get new friends, and don't be so bitter.
LongDickloanshark 1y ago
You are clearly on your anger phase and haven't touched a girl yet in your life.
See, that's called projecting
beingasanocean 1y ago
Hahahahaha you are the only one that doesn't see the irony. Hope you get better bro.
LongDickloanshark 1y ago
this forum shifted from reddit yet the users still treats it like reddit. Instead of answering questions they know about they treat it as a time pass solution, creating arguments that wasn't necessary in the first place and then trying to go personal to get under the skin. Classic social media
beingasanocean 1y ago
Bro, YOU are the one that went personal and started calling people names
When I pointed out the flaw in your logic, instead of replying, you said this:
And now you're acting like you're on a high horse and somehow "won"? I see why your friends don't like you. You need to get your head out of your own ass and learn a bit of humility
LongDickloanshark 1y ago
Exactly my point, you still use this forum as reddit. You feel like you have to win or create useless argument and have to put yourself in conversations you don't have any expertise in
Einsamer 1y ago
Of course there is also AMALT. But the thing is - we already know. Everyone already knows. Except for people (like you?) who grew up with no or almost no friends.
But for women it's different. Many men grow up without having much or even any experience with women, maybe even the majority. Women on the other hand almost always quite a lot of experience with men from a very young age - they don't have to do anything, they will get approached anyways.
That's why men are having illusions about women and that's why AWALT is being taught. Men usually don't have the same illusions about men - they have had friends, they have been stabbed in the back by them, saved by them etc. the vast majority has a good mix of experience and doesn't really have a lot of illusions about male friendship. Hell, look at most movies where men are the evil, violent arch-enemy. If anything, men are not as bad as most people try to make them look.
So if anyone is getting "defensive" maybe that's just them saying "stop complaining, everyone knows, get over it and let's get back to topic".
LongDickloanshark 1y ago
Let's assume anon A has no friends but getting laid despite being bluepilled was never a problem for him due to his superior genetics.
Then let's assume anon B has male friends but is a virgin.
You want anon B to solve his problems but want anon A to end up in a ditch.
LongDickloanshark 1y ago
This wasn't a men bad post. If you can have a calm discussion to figure out women's nature to get ahead in life then why do you have a problem in discussing male nature for the same reason. If you have it all figured out about men then you would be on your path to world domination. But you aren't are you?
Most men wouldn't get duped, scammed cheated, killed, manipulated by other men if they were so much aware about human nature and particularly male nature. If there can be field reports about banging chicks then why can't there be field reports about scamming people?
Einsamer 1y ago
We can. But we don't want to, because there is no need. If it is related to a situation that requires TRP knowledge, then sure, feel free to post it. Otherwise spare us, it doesn't really benefit anyone here.
Also, it's not about "having figured it out all". No one will and it's not necessary. Our knowledge about men is good enough, so we focus on women here. We don't need to focus on men more. That's the common consensus and that's why you are getting downvoted. There are other places where you can discuss those topics.
LongDickloanshark 1y ago
Did you make this forum? I have no idea who's the owner. If you are the owner then okay. If you aren't then who made you the spokesperson? I didn't tag/invite you to comment. If you don't find something useful then don't comment on it. That saves up your time.
what's this "we" collective you are talking about? You don't want to talk about it fine but who's this "we"
Einsamer 1y ago
Just get a look at your replies and your votes. Nothing else needed. I rest my case, end of discussion.
LongDickloanshark 1y ago
Bruh, have you seen the dark triad or amog field reports here? The mostly get downvoted and every comment in it is about criticising op except possibly a few old timers.
Durek_The_Bald 1y ago
Tip #1: Read the sidebar, and the literature referenced there.
Tip #2: Be humble, and ask if you have a question. But don't start of with bravado and accusations, especially when you haven't even done your homework.
Alright, so you're not getting laid. You're not the first. But in this place we preach agency, self improvement, and dealing with what's within your control. If you wanna blame your problems on external factors, then join a fat acceptance community or something.
LongDickloanshark 1y ago
Wtf dude, I am not blaming anyone or anything. This isn't a whining post about getting laid. Read the post first.
I don't have a problem dealing with women. The sidebar helped and so did working out. When I do have a problem with women I come back for advice, reject 90% of them and take the 10% of the advice that comes from people who actually knows what's what and aren't parroting.
The problem I am currently facing is dealing with dudes getting jealous. This was never the case in high school. I was a niceguy(TM) who went with the group. Pining for 1 girl. I wasn't a threat. Dudes were happy. Now it isn't the case. I mostly get laid from social circles so this is a huge problem for me.
Durek_The_Bald 1y ago
How on earth did you read the sidebar without registering that about half of it deals with men's nature? Not buying it. Not buying you getting laid either. "Other men bad" is the typical narrative of men who aren't getting laid. You're just LARP'ing here.
LongDickloanshark 1y ago
Believe it don't believe it doesn't matter.
Human nature is amoral. I have never said other men bad. When I talk about male nature I about talking about men including myself.
benzino 1y ago
Nobody's getting defensive. Reading your comments, it's you acting as if you know it all and anybody who disagrees is an idiot.
Sure some men only care about themselves and would sabotage you if it means they get ahead. Same for women. Many people are like that. It does not mean it's their "nature". Historically, countless men have risked their lives for others and they still do: firemen, police etc. You're taking your personal experience and generalizing half the population based on it. Go to a gym and see how the buffed dudes help a newbie who doesn't know how to lift get better. They aren't trying to sell a course, they do it because they see their past selves in there and want this skinny guy to get better. If everybody only cared about himself, we wouldn't have people sharing knowledge, making vaccines free or sacrificing their lives to save strangers.
Going by what you say we can also conclude it's men's nature to rape, steal and commit murder? Because the world obviously isn't crime-free
LongDickloanshark 1y ago
Women are hypergamous doesn't mean every women will lick chad's dick but it's just that every woman has it in their nature to do so. This same logic applies to men.
And manipulation was needed to make men self sacrificial. Wasn't this repeated in countless posts a decade ago in trp?
Yeah I know that. Bruh, I am not saying that everyman is self-centred and is out there to kill you. I am saying it's in our nature to do so but it doesn't necessarily mean we do it all the time.
Before courtship, before arranged marriages, we had to rape otherwise we wouldn't be able to reproduce. What we define as rape today wasn't really rape back then.
We had to kill each other to take over the resources. It was either that or facing starvation.
I am not blaming men or saying men are bad. I would like to discuss human and male nature to better understand my choices. I would like to do so without a bunch of autist jumping in and parroting go join the gym. Do you even lift bruh. It's quite impossible to do so in redpill or in normie social media platforms. So I guess this is going to be the last post.
whytehorse2021 1y ago
That's human nature. It's called rational self-interest. If your interests conflict with another person's interests, it creates conflict. People always do what's in their own interest, even at the expense of another's. It's not specific to men. Women will sabotage other women to get a guy.
MrSupreme 1y ago
Well all I can say is that I had a lot more social life when I was low self esteem,low confidence and low energy.After I solved those inner issues (mostly) my social life tried to upgrade by leaving behind the people I used to surround myself with, Wich were probably not the best I could do. Such is the way of enlightenment and red pill