This reminded me of RP; I thought it would resonate with some of you. I was reading an article about Zero Tolerance policies in American schools. I came across the following lines. Bold emphasis is mine.
He adds, “In a sense, girl behavior has become the standard by which we judge all kids.”
He cites numerous studies showing that typical boy behavior – wrestling, rough games of tag, good guy/bad guy imaginative play that involves “shooting” -- are condemned by preschool and elementary school teachers, the vast majority of whom are women, without the behavior being redirected appropriately to release boys’ “natural aggression.” Boys who play in the way noted above are not on a path to mass murder, contrary to what zero tolerance school policies suggest. For the vast majority of them, they are simply on the path to manhood. I wonder how many of us who recognize that truth still stifle our boys’ rough play or cowboy shoot outs out of fear of the new rules – reinforcing the capriciousness of regulations in young minds who will one day asked to make them.
Without changes to rigid policies and attitudes about what constitutes good behavior, we will be on a path as a society to generating mass confusion and depression in boys whose natural tendencies are being relabeled as criminal traits or medical problems that need to be treated.
Link: http://spectator.org/articles/56603/boyhood-not-mental-illness
BlackHeart89 9y ago
I remember a while back a kid was suspended or expelled for using a chicken nugget as a pretend gun in I think middle school. Smdh.
Growing up, I pretended everything was a weapon and play fought with friends on a regular basis. Even slap boxing and slamming each other on the ground.
I'm 25 and have never been in jail (clean record), have great credit, have my own car, own place, in school, and work two jobs with no kids. They are prioritizing the wrong shit. I mean unless they actually are trying to pussify men...
m4nup 9y ago
I know that there is room here for a wide range of ideologies, but if you still find compulsory state schooling a great idea for boys, I don't understand what the hell kind of red pill you could have swallowed.
Wheatspin 9y ago
Why is it so difficult to accept that men and women are fucking different.
alritealritealrite 9y ago
Both genders have completely different but equally important roles. Women don't see how important their role is. Men are supposed to provide and lead and that bothers the materialistic woman. So women feel "less" and don't like to be told that they're different than men.
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gprime312 9y ago
Because that's sexist you fucking rapist /s
Jooceyjooce 9y ago
Because masculine qualities are idealized over feminine ones, which betrays society's true feeling that men are inherently better than women. If men and women are the same, however, females are on equal footing.
mickeymouseoutfit 9y ago
Because social engineering and identity politics.
Notice that the very simple distinction between equality and sameness is almost completely missing from modern gender-related discourse....including The Red Pill.
Just because men and women are equal does not mean they are the same. Kind of takes the wind out of everybody's sails and we can't have that. How is the power elite supposed to keep the country divided along gender lines and identity politics if people start making that distinction?
xinhoj 9y ago
Vive le différence
__var 9y ago
It is sad how many people in academia refuse to admit that men and women's brains are different despite research suggesting otherwise.
Hjernevask is an interesting Norwegian documentary series regarding the nature versus nurture debate.
Hjernevask (Brainwash) 1/7 - The Gender Equality Paradox – (Eng. sub - HQ)
The end of the first episode is great because the guy confronts the two Norwegian academics that were insisting there is no difference between men and women's brains.
StillRedder 9y ago
The entire series is somewhere in the sidebar. Great documentary and highly recommended.
People in those fields that research those types of things do, in fact, admit to men's and women's brains being different. The dissonance occurs when feminists and main stream media, who have the loudest voices, disseminate the propaganda that men and women are the same on every level; that we all have the same desires, needs, level of emotional and social awareness, mean intelligence, etc.
Those who take TRP accept those things and try to use the truth to their advantage.
5iveApples 9y ago
I remember seeing that here before, it's actually on the side bar under "Gender Studies is Nonsense". Really good discussion in that thread for people who watched the documentary (which is fantastic).
BlaiseDB 9y ago
And they basically admitted that they are ideologues who believe that as a matter of faith, go forth with their research on that basis, and dismiss any counter evidence as bad science. The opposite crowd in the UK and US think there is some sort of split between nature and nurture and that neither should be ignored, a much more reasonable position in my mind.
trpalternate 9y ago
The best were the scientists who actually study this shit laughing and dismissing the Gender Studies people out of hand.
sevans105 9y ago
My son was one of those that teachers labeled ADHD and requested to be medicated. He was fine, (per several doctors), just a busy boy. But, the stigma remained. Even he felt that he should be medicated due to the constant mentioning by teachers.
So, I took an old pill bottle, removed the label and filled it with vitamin C pills. Every day before school, he took his pill. It WAS AWESOME. Teacher commented about how much better behaved he was, he felt better.....BUT NOTHING ACTUALLY CHANGED, because nothing was wrong.
He is a boy. And becoming a great man.
forbiddenone 9y ago
And thus a Scientologist is born!
/s
DayDrinkerYa 9y ago
Haha the ol' placebo effect. When do you plan on telling him?
sevans105 9y ago
I did the next school year....and explained the placebo affect for him, and it's effect on his teachers. He's a good kid. Part of my job as dad, is to make sure he is as mentally put together as possible...a main reason I hang out here. I love my boys and they deserve all the insight and help I can give them.
DayDrinkerYa 9y ago
That's awesome of you. Thanks for sharing.
svchator 9y ago
parent teacher conference for 4th grade boy - female teacher wanted to put him on drugs because he was 'too competitive' on the playground.
DRMMR76 9y ago
I have a buddy from the Army who was diagnosed with "ADHD" when he was a kid. His parents were pretty much(in "polite" administrator-speak) told that unless he was put on medication that he would fail at school and end up an unemployed idiot. Thankfully his dad is a cardiologist and is a pretty fucking smart Alpha man and immediately pulled him out of public school and sent him to a private school for the rest of his K-12 education. My buddy ended up getting a 2200somthing on his SAT and is now in the process of becoming a detective in a rather large department, a few years ahead of the usual officer-to-detective timeline. One of the smartest guys I've ever met. He can flip from talking about college football scores and playing flip cup to discussing philosophy and Greek literature in a few seconds, depending on who he's talking to. He got a perfect score on his police entrance exam and has aced ever fucking test they've thrown at him, hence his premature move from the road to detective. Turns out the public school just misdiagnosed his boredom with easy stuff as a mental disorder. Thankfully his traditional parents knew this was horse shit from the get go and set him up right.
elsurrealslimshady 9y ago
How do you handle this sort of thing as a parent?
22 right now so no kids any time soon but I'd like to have the tools to deal.
em22new 9y ago
Fill in all the gaps that school missed out on, wrestle, play fight (but be rough enough to be a challenge but not hurting your son). Play streetfighter. High fives, compare muscles, demonstrate physical strength, encourage being brave and heroic.
Orxbane 9y ago
Step one: Don't send them to public school.
spacelord777 9y ago
I homeschool mine so its easy. My boys are in soccer, wrestling and boy scouts. They also regularly fight and wrestle with each other and shoot toy guns at each other while I drink a beer and laugh. The wife tries to be "safety queen," but I make her back off. The upshot? My boys are very well-behaved little gentlemen when the situation calls for it. The rest of the time they are like Lord of the Flies in the backyard.
Noculum 9y ago
Martial arts. It isnt frowned upon in a dojo!
cooledcannon 9y ago
Try unschooling and leading by example.
PokeChopSandwiches 9y ago
I see all good answers here, I don't have much to add. If you end up with a boy, nurturing his competitive and athletic side is crucial. Team sports at a young age, if not that then skateboarding, surfing, snowboarding. Some activity that will by nature keep him active, teach him social skills and interaction in competitive situations, and most important, how to lose.
Losing and the lessons provided are critical to the creation of a strong independent leader. We all lose at some point. Jobs, women, loved ones. Sheltering kids from hurt and the feeling of loss is fucking them up. What in the fuck is gonna happen to all these special snowflakes that have never lost anything, that are in college right now demanding trigger warnings for free speech? What happens when they enter a workforce untainted by liberal bullshit and they cannot perform to a high standard? When they cannot blame anyone else? They will not learn from their mistakes, they will not have the social skills to reassure leadership it was an isolated incident, and they will get fired.
Everyone makes mistakes, recovering from them is what's important. I fucked up a job worth 100k last year, and fucked it up so bad I was not able to go back and fix it for 6 months. The place needed to run production, so they did it half ass for 6 full months until I could go back and finish it properly. Total value of product related to this fuckup? Who knows. Couple million?
But it was an isolated incident, and my supervisor knew that. It was my first time wiring a certain product, and I was issued the wrong prints. I called a day before the project was supposed to be done and took responsibility. Said I fucked it up and I will not be able to meet the time goal. Met with everyone I had to, apologized, and came up with a plan to correct it. That next weekend I was in another plant doing the exact same thing, obviously I had done the research and got it right.
I will never see the good in protecting growing brains from failure. Men need to know what failure feels like, how to own it, and immediately switch gears to correct it without drama or panic. It's too late to learn this at 24. It needs to start at 4.
cuntbh 9y ago
Anything physical. In secondary school (UK, ages 11-16), I played rugby, got in fights, etc. In my free time, at 14, I took up sprint and marathon kayaking. Having the vents for my energy helped me concentrate in class, so despite the fact I was training 7-10 times a week, I was able to concentrate better in class, and had high testosterone and energy levels.
In primary school (UK, ages 4-10), I did Judo, which helped, as well as being allowed to play physically- if your children are at schools where they aren't allowed to play physically, encourage them to do martial arts or sport- full contact sports are especially good, because they get a real test of manhood and somewhere to take out any aggression.
ven5 9y ago
Play sports with your kid when he's younger, that helps tremendously. My father and I used to go out after his work and we'd play soccer, tennis, sometimes box for fun. It's not even about aggressive behavior. Teaching your kid to fix things, and showing him hobbies that develop self improvement ethics will also make him into a man when he grows up.
Unfortunately in modern society, it's a lot harder to go out with your kids most days, my father used to get off work before 3. Most fathers nowadays have to work like slaves until sundown if they want to provide enough for their families, and so we leave the rest to the schools' extra curriculars and high loads of homework.
94redstealth 9y ago
my brother has a 5 year old boy and he regularly wrestles/fights with him. As far as I know, he has never had an incident in school with being aggressive
harkrank 9y ago
Don't put your kids in school.
nzgs 9y ago
Kids should spend the minimum amount of time possible in state education. Time is much better spent in private sports clubs, and being taught important matters (like economics, politics and history) by parents since state education always has an interest in indoctrination.
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ChadThundercockII 9y ago
I agree with you. However, homeschooling does not exist in 3rd world countries. If I ever have a boy, I would like to teach him boxing and weightlifting and gıve him an all rounded education like my father did, except he will not have to deal with AA. I intend to raise an Alpha.
TheeRyanGrey 9y ago
Private school is the well known secret.
Rigid standards. Competitive education as it should be. Moral upkeep. Teach your kids to work and strive for success and ultimately the fear of failure.
cooledcannon 9y ago
Well, the key to success is to not fear failure.
TheeRyanGrey 9y ago
You must've missed my point because that was it
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TheeRyanGrey 9y ago
Learning how to conquer it is good.
There's no fear in public schools. Thanks to no child left behind everyone passes.
jmottram08 9y ago
Well, to be fair, there is fear in some public schools, it just isn't useful for anything other than learning "The public is made of shitty people".
MPRE 9y ago
Home schooling, don't depend on our broken educational system at any stage of your child's life.
Dev_on 9y ago
Lot of ego aiming you're smarter than everyone else
cooledcannon 9y ago
We dont have to be smarter than everyone else. We just have to be smarter than the horrible state of affairs schools are in atm. Whoever cant reach that low bar has got bigger problems.
MPRE 9y ago
Explain to me how I'm aiming that I'm smarter than everyone else...
I simply have no faith in our current educational system.
oldredder 9y ago
Is it really ego to think you can't fuck it up worse than how it is now? Or is public school now just really so damn bad, you can't possibly fuck it up worse?
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WhenIntegralsAttack 9y ago
Is it not our right to educate our children as we see fit? It's a right to believe that we are smarter than the collective and take action based upon that assumption. The individual should not be forced to comply with society.
Also, it doesn't take that much ego to believe you're smarter than school teachers. Many teachers are those who couldn't make it in other fields. No one dropped out of teaching to become a research mathematician. Plenty of math students drop out to become teachers.
Dev_on 9y ago
Hey, I can downvote when I disagree... doesn't really do anything but hide my responses however
of course it's your right. I've just yet to see a person who was home schooled as a child who has the social skills, wide range of knowledge as someone even from a 'flawed' public school.
Then again, where I'm from, most home schoolers are usually of the same stock as anti-vaccers and those types, so I'm sure YMMV.
My comment on the Ego is not that you're smarter than your math teacher (who just has to be smart enough to teach high school level math usually) but also the 15 other teachers who teach social studies, history, science, computers etc.
no one needs their childs teacher to be smart enough to be a research mathemetition. It's a waste of the talent TBH.
CockBruises 9y ago
Schools suck at just about everything, but the one thing they do really well is forcing all the children within their geographical area to be together 5 days a week. Honestly, you could throw them all together in basically any environment and so long as they have decent role models (without poisonous worldviews) and they're prevented from seriously injuring or killing one another, they'll be basically fine.
The problem today is that the sane teachers are retiring and hysterical feminist/cultural Marxist types are replacing them. Remember, the effects of today's happenings are delayed 20-30 years into the future. The average age of teachers is 40-something, which means that they were born in the 70s. In 10 years, they'll have been born in the 80s; in 20, the 90s. And there have been titanic cultural shifts in the last thirty or forty years.
renzy77 9y ago
If you can afford to, send your son to an all-boys school. Preferably one where the teaching staff is majority-male, instead of majority-female like your typical public school.
Male teachers are going to be more able to relate to "typical boy behavior" like "wrestling, rough games of tag, good guy/bad guy imaginative play that involves “shooting” since they were once boys themselves and likely engaged in the same sort of imaginative play.
All-boys schools are also more likely to see typical boy behaviors in a positive light, and accept that there are differences between boys and girls that are innate and not just some "social construct" that needs to be solved by treating boys like they're defective girls.
Most of the all-boys schools I've seen also have more recess time than public schools. The extra recesses serve as an outlet for the higher-energy levels you generally see with boys.
I think as boys continue to fall behind academically, all-boys schools will gain popularity as parents look for alternatives to the public school system. Unfortunately, the limiting factor for most parents of boys is going to be the cost of tuition.
cantchoos 9y ago
Not sure about you mate, but when i was that age all i could ever think about in school was girls and the majority of schooling was spent daydreaming...
Woulda been nice not to have that distraction. You got a good idea.
cuntbh 9y ago
Funnily enough, I was thinking the opposite- I went to an all boys school, and as a result, by the age of 15, I was hopeless with girls. Contrast to people who went to mixed schools locally who had large groups of female friends.
Equally, playing Rugby, fighting in the playground etc meant I had a vent for my aggression, which probably helped my academics no end.
jmottram08 9y ago
And who cares if a 15 year old kid is shitty around girls?
Seriously, I would much rather my son be educated mentally and physically at 15 than good pandering to teenage girls, especially in todays society.
I am not suggesting sending your son to an all male college, but I could care less if he was hopeless with girls at 15.
Getting laid is easy. Repairing a broken educational and social foundation that public education instills in children is not.
cuntbh 9y ago
Other 15 year olds. But that doesn't matter, because they're not gonna be around 15 year olds forever.
Such things exist?
jmottram08 9y ago
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Men%27s_colleges_in_the_United_States
Not to mention other, partially segregated colleges, like military colleges, where there are females, but they are the minority.
meet_me_at_high_noon 9y ago
I have a three year old who starts preschool in May. One of the things I've already told my girlfriend is that I know they're gunna say he has ADD or ADHD. He loves to play drums with his hands, wrestle, and play shooting games. He's boy all the way.
When the teacher says he has ADD or ADHD Im going to tell her Im not putting him on any fucking medication. He's fine, just a boy. If she doesn't like it we can take our money elsewhere. If he hits another kids, which I forbid, put him in time out, otherwise, leave him be.
Other than that, I really am not sure what can be done.
T_H_E_T_R_U_T_H 9y ago
I don't think ADHD is real, honestly. Kids are full of energy because they're kids. They don't pay attention in school because they're kids. But these docto,rs get perks and shit from PharmCorps to get kids hooked on fucking tranquilizers, completely neutering their childhoods.
Proper child rearing alone can help children do well in school and have all the fun they're meant to have, as well as teach them discipline and respect. Prescriptions drugs and public school can fuck right off.
fromthebottom 9y ago
There's so much research and academic info on ADHD I can't believe people are blending it in with social issues (boys be boys). It's a disorder with quite a bit of documentation. Teachers and parents need more education clearly.
morguejuice 9y ago
Keep your kid off speed -- not only will you change their brain chemistry for life you stunt their physical growth as well.
denmaur 9y ago
You can also ask the teacher what her qualifications are to diagnose medical issues.(none) Drugged up boys makes their lives easier but it doesn't help the boys.
bubbleki 9y ago
I think they can get CPS on your ass if you refuse medication.
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Do tour best to get him a male teacher. The younger years are more important.
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I'd be asking if the teacher was a doctor or qualified psychiatrist and when I find out they are not i would then sue them for malpractice or operating without a license, surely someone giving unqualified medical advice is illegal, especially if you can prove in past cases it was the teachers word alone that another child on ADD medication.
Strongbhoy 9y ago
Honestly, I'd put my kids into boxing, get them into and around the gym as fast as possible. Boxing, or other martial arts as people have talked about here teach a lot of things and provide an outlet to "be a man" in society, or in this case "be a boy". It teaches not only defense, but strength, honor, integrity, discipline, you are surrounded by male role models it's a fantastic experience.
Also as a former teacher the ADD/ADHD shit is blown way out of proportion. You should see charts comparing "America" to the rest of the world. It's ridiculous. Schools get more funding if your child is "special needs", which that falls under, and people plainly don't want to parent due to laziness or whatever. Granted, there are kids who DO have issues, I've seen them, but 99% of them don't, and instead you fuck them up or give them a crutch or convince them of something that can hamper them for life.
I'm reminded of the quote from Twins Great Harmon Killebrew's Dad who he talked about in his HoF speech. His mom remarked about how their grass was getting torn up, and his dad looked at her and said "we aren't raising grass, we are raising boys".
End of.
ljubebanjeglav 9y ago
Relevant:
"And then, of course, there are the vastly different philosophies of child-rearing in the U.S. and France. These divergent philosophies could account for why French children are generally better-behaved than their American counterparts. Pamela Druckerman highlights the divergent parenting styles in her recent book, Bringing up Bébé. I believe her insights are relevant to a discussion of why French children are not diagnosed with ADHD in anything like the numbers we are seeing in the U.S.
From the time their children are born, French parents provide them with a firm cadre—the word means "frame" or "structure." Children are not allowed, for example, to snack whenever they want. Mealtimes are at four specific times of the day. French children learn to wait patiently for meals, rather than eating snack foods whenever they feel like it. French babies, too, are expected to conform to limits set by parents and not by their crying selves. French parents let their babies "cry it out" (for no more than a few minutes of course) if they are not sleeping through the night at the age of four months.
French parents, Druckerman observes, love their children just as much as American parents. They give them piano lessons, take them to sports practice, and encourage them to make the most of their talents. But French parents have a different philosophy of discipline. Consistently enforced limits, in the French view, make children feel safe and secure. Clear limits, they believe, actually make a child feel happier and safer—something that is congruent with my own experience as both a therapist and a parent. Finally, French parents believe that hearing the word "no" rescues children from the "tyranny of their own desires." And spanking, when used judiciously, is not considered child abuse in France. (Author's note: I am not personally in favor of spanking children)".
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/suffer-the-children/201203/why-french-kids-dont-have-adhd
Mattpilf 9y ago
I think it's higher than 99%. The kids with Add respond differently to the drugs. They get slowed down, and very calm, while those who don't have it get tweaked. It's why it's so easy for kids to give it to others, as those with ADD don't like it cause they are basically downers, while those without ADD have it act as uppers. Lots of kids get "diagnosed" with Add, try the drugs and end up feeling tweaked out on them like normal people do, and stop taking them.
frappa9990 9y ago
Indeed boxing is a great thing to get into, especially to make a habit of going to the gym, how ever i thing a team sport os essencial in the equation. For me its rugby but it can be anything!
throwaway131072 9y ago
I was "diagnosed" with ADD. Ritalin, adderall, concerta, you name it, for all of grade school. The concerta killed my appetite, caused me to be malnourished, and now my height is stunted. Thanks for being a good one.
Iramohs 9y ago
Concerta killed me socially. I was extremely quiet and reserved. Rarely spoke to anyone outside of my immediate group of ~7 friends. Shit lasted until high school when I stopped taking it.
letmeseeyourrealface 9y ago
Dem feels, was also on concerta, eventually had a panic breakdown. This was only two years ago.
This particular panic breakdown made me despise the medical system as a whole and for a while made me extremely paranoid towards everything.
But it also made me change for the better. In a way it was a good experience.
I finally saw that people cannot help you when you are down on the floor asking for help. They will most likely leave you there or pump you full with medication so you "function" like a zombie, an empty shell. Knowing that they feed kids this crap disgusts me.
It showed me that only I can change myself, no one else. And that asking for help is not appreciated in any way in this society. Yes it's a tough pill to swallow and most people will probably say: "you are bitter/you are paranoid".
I feel great at the moment, the moment I took my own life in my hands and stopped listening to the noise.
A friend of mine is also on ritalin and I can see how it affects him. Socially he is extremely bad. People are very quickly annoyed by him. When his ritalin wears out or he doesn't take it, he's a wonderful person to be around. But when he's on, he's very quiet and overall quickly agitated. A shame.
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Areimanes 9y ago
If a teacher says your son has ADD/ADHD, you at least owe it to your son to look out for signs/symptoms and see multiple specialists in that area to confirm or deny that diagnosis. Go in with an open mind, whatever the diagnosis is.
ADD/ADHD isn't something you can just power through by sheer willpower/discipline. It's a real problem for a lot of people.
meet_me_at_high_noon 9y ago
I actually have a degree in education and am a history teacher. So I have the same training as any other teacher to figure out; if I was just a parent it'd be different.
I will take into consideration whatever the teacher says, so thank you for your advice.
jmottram08 9y ago
Its called life.
We all have our personal crosses to bear. If you are an unfocused person, learn how to address the problem.
There is this idea that everyone can be perfect and uniform. Its bullshit. We all have strengths and weaknesses, and part of growing up is learning how to deal with your personal weaknesses.
pick-a-spot 9y ago
The French don't diagnose their kids with ADHD, instead they look for social problems and dietary needs.
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/suffer-the-children/201203/why-french-kids-dont-have-adhd
Seems to work well for them.
Plying children with drugs is treating the symptom and not the cause. The amount of pollution, lack of good bacteria and shit processed, coloured, artificial food being consumed by city kids at key stages of their life is only going to increase the problem.
And if the mother has poor gut bacteria /microbe balance, then that gets carried to the next generation. Allergies are increasing too... In some schools in the UK, nuts are now banned. Teachers go through kids lunch boxes to look for nuts
Mattpilf 9y ago
I wouldn't trust that article.
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/here-there-and-everywhere/201209/french-kids-do-have-adhd-interview
This one actually interviews a doctor and sites sources, and was printed later.
Either way it dents the validity of the first one by a serious margin, because at least one the articles on that site must be full of shit.
putsch80 9y ago
It's also become something that serves as an easy scapegoat for boys' behavior and is incredibly over diagnosed because giving a kid a couple pills is easier than the work it takes to instill discipline. And the idea that teachers can diagnose it is fucking ludicrous.
fromthebottom 9y ago
Honestly the full force of ADHD is undeniable. It's laughable what gets lumped in, but it's fairly obvious in the classroom. When you got a bright kid that can't sit still..
rabblerabble8 9y ago
or when you've got a bright kid who's bored and acting naturally for his age...
the_optiomal 9y ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PcuhhJ1BaMk
fromthebottom 9y ago
WOW people.. Can't believe you got down voted. Legit ADHD requires attention, and can be quite a problem untreated.
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fromthebottom 9y ago
Same with cellphones, and look at us go.
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the_optiomal 9y ago
It's an invention, yeah. Different than cellphones, but still an invention
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Obio1 9y ago
Teach your kids to be aggressive in extra-curricular activities. Things like sports, martial-arts training and gaming have never been more important. And make no mistake -- feminists are waging war against those things as well -- but since they are private operations, they are currently beyond the reach of their little claws.
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redditcdnfanguy 9y ago
I'm kind of pleased with that, since cultural Marxism is going up against a force of the universe and must inevitably be defeated.
Trouble is, it's going to cause a LOT of trouble first. In fact, I can't think of any individual who had caused more grief than Marx.
TruckerJohn 9y ago
Christ, Mohammad, Socrates, Plato all caused quite a it of trouble.
TomSachs 9y ago
I was so damn lucky to have parents like this. I used to get into fist fights when playing soccer and all normal boy shit. My parents realized it wasn't serious and let me be a boy. I remember other kids who would have been crucified if they did normal boy things.
serideth 9y ago
As a soccer referee I wouldn't say that fist fights during soccer is normal, personally that would have been a straight red and a word with the coach after the game.
However if it was a game of rugby or hockey then I would understand as that's part of the culture of the game, where as punching someone on a soccer pitch means you don't respect the other team or his skills.
But yeah wrestling on a log to push the other guy off and cop and robbers are fine and all in good fun.
TomSachs 9y ago
Completely agree. I got red cards and would be sent off. My parents would make me apologize to the kid I punched and to my teammates for selfishly putting our team in jeopardy of losing. I learned my lesson. I learned that it wasn't bad that I had these strong "boy" feelings that include being competitive and rough. They told me it was good I wanted to win but the way I handled it was immature and stupid. They understood that it was a stupid mistake and wasn't a sign that I was a terrible kid or anything like that. I feel like a lot of mothers/fathers I currently know would deal with this terribly and wouldn't understand that boys get into fights and do stupid things.
makethemsayayy 9y ago
Oh yeah, they got their claws into football. I wouldn't let MY kids play. That's great, you fucking pussies, teach your kid how to juke and he won't get hit super hard. They're ARE going after things like football, no doubt.
realdev 9y ago
Giving your kids lifelong head injuries (potentially) isn't the best idea either.
I'd rather train my kids in martial arts than football, personally.
makethemsayayy 9y ago
But Mr. Krabz she attacked me......in my own dojo
You taking some new allergy medication I should know about?
grendalor 9y ago
Yeah I allow a little gaming here and there, but basically the main focus is on team sports -- football and baseball. And my son spends all summer in wilderness canoe camps where you need to have your balls on hand, or learn quickly where they are.
Basically, you need to actively counteract the feminist shit that the schools shovel -- because they ALL do.
laere 9y ago
Ive played guitar for over 10 years and hands down its one of thd best things to put all your emotion and aggressiveness into.
grendalor 9y ago
Yes that's not bad, if you don't want to do athletics. I did it when I was younger, played in a band and all that from 15-23, and it was fun and also good for displaying mastery and so on and getting chicks.
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Evolved_Red 9y ago
Guitar player for over 30 years here. Yes it is a great outlet, but emotional and physical releases are vastly different; they're night and day.
John_E_Canuck 9y ago
Drumming on the other hand...
redditcdnfanguy 9y ago
Yes, it's both an art and a martial art simultaneously...
RickJamesBond 9y ago
I'd take gaming out of that equation. It makes people fat and stupid, not strong and aggressive.
Josh_The_Boss 9y ago
Obio1 said that they should be aggressive. And doing anything without moderation is a bad idea.
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SneakyTouchy 9y ago
I'm addicted to gaming. Its my number one hobby and I waste tons of time with it.
Secondarily, I'm also a springboard diver and have a body to show for it.
I can't agree with you that it makes people fat. The college video game club is full of skinnies. One of them is a dedicated body builder. It's also a very mentally active hobby, which has it's own benefits.
Consuming more calories than they expend is what makes people fat.
RickJamesBond 9y ago
I agree with your last sentence. The truth is that nothing other than a calorie surplus makes people fat. Video games can make people complacent and accepting of being less than their best.
RojoEscarlata 9y ago
Gaming used as anything but a mindless distraction is stupid.
Games give you a false sense of accomplishment, without getting any real life value, its a more interactive way of using a TV.
In all the hours you dump on gaming you could have instead read a book do a physical activity, learn to dance, pretty much anything.
So please if you have children don't buy them games, instead teach them to read, get them on a sport team, take your children to fish, lift, climb, swing with you. Just don't let them get hooked on gaming.
And this comes from an avid ex gamer, I dread realizing how much time I spended gaming back in the day.
americanmook 9y ago
Do you know how to quit? I want to so bad :/
RojoEscarlata 9y ago
Sell all gaming related is a good start.
RickJamesBond 9y ago
It is interesting that people are agreeing with you and disagreeing with me even though we are saying the same thing.
RojoEscarlata 9y ago
Herd mentality, they see you being down voted and make a pre conception of your post with out giving it much though.
Edit: also you called fat and stupid what I think is a big part of this community.
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RickJamesBond 9y ago
Some people just don't want to give up their games. Giving up gaming was a part of my self improvement. With my extra time I lost 60 pounds and got in shape. Not everyone has time to game and be fit. Maybe high schoolers do.
RojoEscarlata 9y ago
Haha, yeah the guy I'm also commenting with got defensive real quick about something that even wasn't my point. Lol
Valiade 9y ago
It honestly depends on the game. Playing flappy bird is not the same as playing counterstrike or dota. After a few hours of competitive cs I am mentally drained. My brain feels the same way my body does after lifting.
I think the real thing to consider is the inclusion of competition. Engaging in mental competition is one of the best things you can do for mental plasticity, which will help in all areas of life.
RojoEscarlata 9y ago
Some games will be more challenging than others, and the sense of accomplishment will be greater for that.
But still it is a FALSE sense of accomplishment, because it doesn't matter if you are a GOD in CS and FIFA, it doesn't matter if you trash your competition, because is NOT REAL
Compete in things that can actually give you a tangible sense of accomplishment, lift more than your peers, earn more money, get more and hotter chicks, etc.
You can get a better skill set in things like eye hand coordination and decision making in real life situations because it won't apply to games only but to REAL LIVE too.
So please stop trying to hamster why you waste all that time gaming instead of living.
Valiade 9y ago
Wow you're really going at this strawman you've created. I do lift, I am in the top fraternity on my campus, I've been playing guitar for 8 years, I swing dance, and I am in one of the most profitable majors available today (CS). I also love CounterStrike.
The rush I get from clutching a 1v3 is more than enough to make it one of my hobbies. Stop projecting your insecurities onto others.
RojoEscarlata 9y ago
There's no strawman, I've never make such claims, being a gamer or successful are not mutually exclusive.
But that doesn't mean that games are in any way anything more than a pass time (a way to relax), and giving it qualities like the ones I listed above is not something that should be encouraged, because that takes away from real life.
Especially at young ages, which was actually my original and main point in this thread.
Fuck!, is like masturbation it cab be good and fun, but you wouldn't do it daily and dedicate it hours to it.
Is not even about the games, man.
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cantchoos 9y ago
I disagree. I started PC gaming when i was less than 12 yrs old starting with mechwarrior 2, leisure suit larry, then finally into quake with quakespy.... 1000s and 1000s of hours of computing since then (still an avid gamer) and I'm making bank as a software engineer since the games inspired me to write code for the first time.
malepornstarama 9y ago
That's a nice anecdote, but there are a lot more lazy fat gamers than successful ones.
MelodyMyst 9y ago
I don't disagree with your results. Glad it worked out for you. Unfortunately there is a large percentage of young men who game that didn't learn what you learned and are now emotionally stunted, physically weak, and socially inept because of the 1000's and 1000's of hours they have spent sitting in front of a video screen.
cantchoos 9y ago
Honestly I agree with you. After all these hours of me sitting around I have felt myself weak when it comes to many social aspects... reason why I'm here is because I've been a beta all my life and now at 26 years old I feel I understand so much more but still have alot to learn... Baby steps first however...
pick-a-spot 9y ago
I play games too.. But you're getting your exploration / 'finding out how things work' fix from some virtual construct and not real life.
It's kind of like Fapping.
It's good you channeled yours into something useful.
TI69 9y ago
Sounds like an appeal to nature fallacy.
grendalor 9y ago
I agree. Better to be doing real stuff outdoors than gaming indoors in virtual realities.
TI69 9y ago
Appeal to nature fallacy.
Doing physical activity/exercise outdoors is probably a lot more beneficial than playing videogames, but there are a lot of things one can do outdoors and not in "virtual reality" that are completely useless. Just cause something is 'artifical' or 'unnatural' (what you are describing computer games as, basically) doesn't mean it's bad, and because something is not 'virtual' doesn't mean it's good.
grendalor 9y ago
Do what you want to do, but spending any significant degree of time in virtual reality (videogames) is a waste of time from the red pill perspective. The point isn't that they are "unnatural", but that they are useless. You can find useful things to do indoors, including developing your body (the gym is indoors, for example). Video games were the main focus of the comment, and they are a useless time sink for men who should be developing themselves.
devonc01 9y ago
Helps to convert what could be a troubled activity into one of less overall harm as well, like a pressure release
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I would argue that videogames are not entirely useless. Some are, and the way a lot of people play them they are, but they can also be powerful mediums for stories. They can teach strategy and planning methods, (civilization games) organization, ( RTS or MMOs) time management, resource management, observation skills, reflexes, spacial thinking (tetris), etc. Many games have several of these elements. You can even learn from games - I had no idea what fletching was until Runescape. They can be a great way to socialize if you play multiplayer games like Fifa or NHL with friends or whoever is around.
letsgofightdragons 9y ago
I agree that video games could be beneficial, but they're usually convenient and flashy, yet inferior counterparts of IRL experiences. Video games are fun, but /r/outside is better.
All in my subjective opinion, of course.
grendalor 9y ago
All of which can be done without sitting down for hours on end honing fine motor muscle skills with a keyboard or mouse that are generally useless for most people (leaving surgeons and mechanics aside).
Listen, game if you want. You can learn some things through it. But in a world where the most dominating number is 24, there are a lot of other more useful, more self-developing things you could be doing with the limited amount of that 24 that you have on hand than playing video games.
Kozma37 9y ago
That all depends on the situation.
cantchoos 9y ago
Yeah man, and I'm certainly starting to realize the hollowness of abstraction creations... So whenever I start to feel like that I put together a model (or try to lol). Or maybe fix something on my car or something... but those things don't put food on the table like C# does :)
qiang_shi 9y ago
You're also still absent highly mature web frameworks in c# compared to python or java.
Something I've noticed recently through experience.
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C#/.NET has no mature web frameworks? K.
qiang_shi 9y ago
Show me something that rivals django. Something that rivals django-tastypie. You can't because it doesn't exist.
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"Rivals"? By what metric? If it's performance then almost any .NET walks all over it. Ease of development? Python probably wins (then so does PHP, it doesn't make it a better tool). Reliability, scalability, security? The .NET stack has it covered.
cantchoos 9y ago
Gimme a break, python/java is a joke in the real world of acquiring currency and disregarding females.
RichoDemus 9y ago
Probably depends on location, where I'm from, c# is in no way held in higher regard than java
cantchoos 9y ago
True, I purposely live in an area where it is a seller's market. The demand for any type of programming... even the lowliest web dev can make alot of money compared to the rest of the region average income.
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rorrr 9y ago
[citation needed]
Fat - maybe, but every gamer I know is way smarter than an average gym meat head.
Some scientific studies:
Video Games Lead to Faster Decisions that are No Less Accurate
Action Video Games Help Decision-Making
Playing video games can boost brain power
Increasing Speed of Processing With Action Video Games
Real-Time Strategy Game Training: Emergence of a Cognitive Flexibility Trait
Action video game play facilitates the development of better perceptual templates
RickJamesBond 9y ago
Girls don't want to have sex with your intelligence. Only an idiot lets themselves become fat.
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Incorrect. Holding frame, earning 6 figures, dominating other men socially, choosing how to dress, and most of gaming (PUA gaming) is intellectual.
malepornstarama 9y ago
Yeah because most gamers totally domitate others socially....
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Dude, get off the stereotype. If you have self control you can do whatever you want and video games can be a great outlet.
RickJamesBond 9y ago
Video games are a waste of life. Go ahead and waste yours.
Pilga 9y ago
Anything you don't enjoy is a waste of your life. That's just life.
rorrr 9y ago
Notice how you jumped on a different topic. Be a man for once and admit you were wrong.
RickJamesBond 9y ago
Oh rorr can you ever forgive me? Oh how I've wronged you! Gamers are truly the most physically and mentally competent members of our glorious society!
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aquaticbub 9y ago
Is it not possible to be both a gamer and athlete? I personally enjoy lifting and exercise, but still like coming home to an hour or two of gaming instead of mindless TV. At least this way I can hone my reaction time and critical thinking skills
RickJamesBond 9y ago
It is possible, although it doesn't happen very often. Athletes seek real life accomplishments, gamers seek artificial validation.
justmanthings 9y ago
Would you say a football is artificial? A stadium?
rorrr 9y ago
Even your "apology" is of a cunt.
Get some balls.
RickJamesBond 9y ago
Go back to your potato chips and masturbation.
Ludachriz 9y ago
Bruv potato chips? I am a diamond 4 Lego Legends playah and I've talked to athene on twitch chat, i am basically on the peak of life. I ONLY eat corn chips.
ThePedanticCynic 9y ago
While i disagree with this all around, i'm specifically curious as to why you think gaming makes people more stupid than, say, football? You aren't going to get a concussion playing Modern Warfare, yet you still get the competitive and social aspects; which is the whole point.
RickJamesBond 9y ago
I consider all fat people to be stupid. If they were smart, they would know how to not be fat.
ThePedanticCynic 9y ago
Yet not all gamers are fat, not all stupid people are fat, and not all fat people are stupid.
I honestly thought TRP was a place of logic and reason, not this irrational bias i fully expect from feminists.
Is being fat generally unattractive? Yes. That doesn't make them lesser people. Intelligent people are frequently lazy. Your opinion is malformed.
malepornstarama 9y ago
Being fat is highly correlated with lower intelligence.
ThePedanticCynic 9y ago
I know it's correlated, but highly? I need a source on that.
To add: height is also correlated to intelligence. So now we have to ask what the true factor is, since shorter people tend to seem fatter at the same weight as those who are taller.
malepornstarama 9y ago
Pretty much every study on the subject shows that obesity has a strong correlation with lower IQ. Less intelligent people make bad choices and have bad habits. There is no reason to be fat unless you're simply not smart enough to eat normally. http://personal.lse.ac.uk/kanazawa/pdfs/COEDO2014.pdf
Height has a small correlation with intelligence because height in an indicator of proper nutrution during development. The increase we see in human height over the past thousands of years was due to improved diet, which also increased brain size.
ThePedanticCynic 9y ago
'Pretty much'. I'm overwhelmed by your penetrating specificity.
Going to need a source and methodology on this, as well. What is a 'bad choice', and why are less intelligent people more prone to them with regards to health?
For instance: does overt aggressiveness, as advocated for by TRP, require intelligence? Does a hard body and a set of six pack abs require a higher brain function? One of the main points of this sub is this: if you don't have the money, have the body. Why do you think those without the money are inferior to you?
Right. Or they don't give a shit. Not every person wants to live up to your expectation of 'normal', or land a supermodel. Newton and Tesla are the first two to come to mind. Certainly, they accomplished great things: but pretend that they didn't. It's not the outcome that's important; it's the attitude and effort.
The entirety of this is hilarious.
First off, how can you separate height from obesity? It's literally impossible. I'm 6'3, and weigh 190 pounds. I eat what i want, exercise when i feel like it; and i'm still within the normal range for my height.
Now imagine if i were 5'3. I would be an incredibly fat fuck, and yet my behavior would be exactly the same.
Which neither you, nor i, had anything to do with. I'm probably taller than you; does that make me superior?
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oldredder 9y ago
what about other countries?
kirk88 9y ago
They won't stop until men are eradicated
Smekiz 9y ago
Marxist feminism is going to be the downfall of america. Holy shit this is stupid
Aerobus 9y ago
It already is the downfall of America.
RojoEscarlata 9y ago
Cultural Marxism is going to be the fall of the west.
George_l_rockwell 9y ago
Lol, cultural Marxism has been rampant at work destroying our traditional society since around the 60s.
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Labore_Et_Constantia 9y ago
Feminization of everything, this is what happens when both men and women lack a strong positive male role model:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xaUlXthN4Oo
http://imgur.com/EJcoeCs
BlackHeart89 9y ago
Thank god I had action movies and cartoons as role models. Plus a little bit of common sense. Lol
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SharkPrivilege 9y ago
This is very true. Anger is an emotion that is not accepted at all, so we shame it and make sure that is suppressed. Freud said that depression is anger turned inwards and I believe he had a strong point with that.
Anger doesn't equal hate, doesn't mean you want to hurt anyone, that you will be always angry, it's nothing like that. Anger is an emotion, like any other, and usually comes because we've been denied of something (being wronged counts here). Parents can be angry at their children for a particular thing while still loving them, no? But when it comes to adults, especially men, it's totally unacceptable.
One of the stages of grief is anger. You hear this often, but it's not so common to hear what you're supposed to be angry about. It's about being angry at the person who abandoned you, even when it was someone who died. Try to say "I'm angry at my mother for dying and abandoning me" even with close and trusting people and see how they react. It's totally normal to feel angry there and many people get stuck in the grief process because they can't really get past this.
Being angry at your parents is also something that is unacceptable. "They did the best they could/knew!". That's true, and their efforts won't go away just because you say "I am angry at them because they messed up with X". That doesn't mean you hate them, that you won't love them anymore or that you are ungrateful, just that you are angry. It's especially interesting how "we" don't allow our own children to be angry at us. Parents aren't perfect, parents shouldn't try to be perfect, they are still human, so it's understandable that their children could be angry at them. "I'm angry at you because I don't feel you accept me when I do X" would be a very mature thing a child could tell their parents. But what would be the common answer? "Shut up, I can't always be with you" or things like "Why are you complaining? Would you prefer to be an African starving kid?"
Anger always finds a way out. Passive aggressive behaviour, random explosions of anger, etc. That only makes anger even less acceptable.
ihaphleas 9y ago
Anger is not wrong, but initiating (physical) violence is.
le_king_falcon 9y ago
If you are male, society has gotten to the point that visible anger is treated the same as violence. See how people react if you genuinely raise your voice.
harkrank 9y ago
Initiating hostility is wrong, violence is just a step along the way. Although all of us should strive to have enough mental control to not let anybody rattle us that much.
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cooledcannon 9y ago
Id actually prefer soccer to have two balls and each team starts with one each. More fun to watch and also incidentally prevents the team that starts the kickoff having the adv.
Luscious_Fox 9y ago
Beating the shit out of the person that initiated it is also wrong in the eyes of the court system too unfortunately.
oldredder 9y ago
Which is completely wrong: unless you are already a superior fighter in every way and have every advantage you have no idea if one slip, one moment of letting up or turning your back, will end with a bullet in your skull or a knife in your ribs.
Survival trumps the law. When assaulted you should have the automatic right to use lethal force if you need. It should be up to you to decide how far is far enough, not the court.
Let them play on the extremes: if a person trips me and I shoot that person in the face that's overboard.
But if a person tries to mug me and I break their knee-caps I'm in the right, 100%. My justification: that fucker can't chase me with broken knees so now the fight's over and I'm likely safe. It's on me to decide if there's a gun or knife at play; if I think so I might search and remove. Or I might dodge around a corner and be gone, again, no chasing means no aiming once I'm around a corner.
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If you have training (military/martial arts) your fists can be considered a weapon in court. You can be charged for a greater crime than those who do not have training.
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oldredder 9y ago
It is true. Don't let anyone know you've got that training and if you can't hide it do NOT get into fights with civilians. Only active police get that kind of mafia protection - no charge no matter how fucked their actions were unless it's rape.
Even murder can be swept under the rug of a cop does it.
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I'm not a lawyer, but I seem to recall my cousin saying that, he's really into MMA
theultmatecad 9y ago
Every few months this comes up.
My boy has wild energy. Teachers and wife wanted him on "meds"
These are not subtle drugs. I was bewildered that anyone could suggest this treatment BEFORE behavior plans, increased excersize, accommodations (more time for hw etc) and cbt.
Anyway... I told the wife i would walk if she administered a single pill. Then said I'd sue her and the doctors to make sure no pills were ever consumed. Also made it clear wife's entire social circle and family would know I dumped her ass for being a lazy mother who preferred to sedate her kid rather than deal with him the right way.
This was a few years ago. My kid is doing just fine
Read the war on boys. It's scary what's occurring to our sons
dbie22 9y ago
The misandry is in the media now too, I see an article about how men are so bad to women every single day. Today it was about John Travolta touching women without their permission (Oscars), as if women asked for permission to put their arms around you. LOL.
mdadm 9y ago
I'm so glad I grew up in a third world 'shithole' that had real problems, so these sorts of things never surfaced.
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redditcdnfanguy 9y ago
When these boys grow up there will be a reaction to this that we older guys cannot possibly imagine.
oldredder 9y ago
rage and joy for those that never followed rules and will get no resistance, and men who really don't want to be gay or seen as gay but have learned only how to act like women so actual women by instinct will have no choice but to file them under "gay" at a subconscious level.
I shall call this era of history the Fagdemonium
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Kuramo 9y ago
Do you want to know something? Thanks to people from RP and MRM I has learnt to not disapprove behavior of kids of my own sex. (boys).
Saddly, Western education system (from preschool to university) turns boys and men in people who hate other men and even themselves.
Societies in which we belong have a huge debt to their men
beerthroway 9y ago
I'm a teacher and can definitely agree, boys are not allowed to be boys. The saying "boys will be boys" is no longer culturally acceptable.
I do try my best to implement rules in my classroom that are geared towards helping the boys succeed. Boys and girls are both allowed to do these things but boys are usually the ones that use them:
if you're getting tired of sitting, you can stand up in the back of the room. If you abuse this rule them you'll come stand next to me.
pushups are encouraged to help get out excess energy.
Additional point: if you read any pre-feminized literature, you'll notice that when children do something bad, it's usually the boy doing something and the girl standing off on the side, but when the kids get in trouble, the parents say "the boy shouldn't have done that bad thing and the girl probably made him do it!" They knew how each gender worked and held them both equally responsible. Instead of easing up on boys, I think we just need to get tougher on girls. Don't let them play that innocent role. Don't let them apologize and get out of jail for free, just cause they bat their eyelashes and cry. Don't be seduced by their looks, they are people too.
cover20 9y ago
What would happen to you if you tried to punish a girl that way these days?
cheezuzz 9y ago
If my mother found out a teacher had me meditate she would have anointed me with oil, performed an exorcism, and home schooled me from then on. Are you sure you're doing more good than harm?
p3ndulum 9y ago
How can sitting still and quietly focusing on your breathing do harm, on any level?
cheezuzz 9y ago
It lets Satan into your heart and mind.
beerthroway 9y ago
All I tell them is "focus on your surroundings, your breath, and the weight of the ground on your feet. If you get distracted by something else, acknowledge it and move on. Take the time to let your mind have a break."
These kids are pushed so much all day long. They just aren't capable of staying on top of it all. Taking 5 minutes to quiet down and relax, even if it's called meditation, is a way to increase productivity and ease of the whole room. I'm willing to take the risk and fight for the benefit it provides.
Also, I'm not forcing anyone to do anything other than sit there quietly, which is standard rules.
Finally, there is nothing illegal about having my class meditate. It's not a religious action. It is a classroom management technique and an opportunity for the kids to sit there and relax, even if they don't want to participate.
cheezuzz 9y ago
You should focus on god not things of this world. And idle hands do the devils work. Empty your mind... to make room for Satan.
bustanutmeow 9y ago
Are you just a really shitty troll.... or what?
ObsceneInnocence 9y ago
How does one reverse the damage from such a situation? My whole life growing up my parents enforced such rules and standards. I started off strong but with years and years of such practices I became a shell of my former self stuck in a female mindset of violence being wrong and any TV or movies with violence, drugs, alcohol, etc being "bad".
SuaveSilverSurfer 9y ago
Befriend some manly men and join them in their manly pursuits.
Xevalous 9y ago
Try to do things to boost your testosterone. Like everyone here says, lift. It'll skyrocket your t.
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Read the books, watch classic movies (50s-70s). Do some kind of private military/militia training camps. Hunt and camp. Join a MMA club.
Davidkpa 9y ago
Fathers have the duty of explaining to their sons they have to fake themselves when at schools. Schools are not good places. They are places you go as part of playing the game on the path to adulthood. It's where you go to get a piece of paper to one day get another piece of paper that says you're done with school and can go to college, military, or elsewhere to get on with your adult life.
In high school I took summer classes to fill my electives so I could take weightlifting all year long (swimming I enjoyed taking classes in). High School was somewhere I went to lift weights and chase bitches while maintaining a 4.0 GPA.
Fathers will have the duty of helping their sons realize manhood outside of the school setting. A cousin of mine has an eight year old son and I occassionaly go to the kid's little league games, school awards, and birthday parties. If my fiancee is at work on the weekend I'll stop by and pick him up and take him out as I play the Cool Uncle (he calls me his Uncle, we're close in my family and my cousin has no brothers and the dad is an absent scum bag I've threatened to castrate for beating on her).
I got in trouble with the school (literally my cousin called me and asked if I could go to a meeting at the school to explain what I told her son) because I explained to him that schools are shit holes that kill imagination and free will. That it's a whorehouse filled with whores (teachers, staff, principals, etc.) to be used and never respected.
I don't drink mind you (almost never drink and I wasn't high when I explained this to him, of course I did this after explaining mortality to him so maybe I should have known better) so I said all of this sober and over ice cream. The school principal shot me an evil look and I smiled and told them I stuck by my position.
My cousin was pissed but after we sat down with her son in the school office, I communicated to him that he had to lie to everyone around them, to their faces at least (oh the principal did not like this). That he had to fake being a wimp, a pathetic little thing,to save this strength and abilities for the real world. That he was surrounded by the worthless and the weak, the prey. And to calm down in the meantime, get good grades and learn sarcasm and how to condescend to people.
So no one was happy with me. But I still watch the kid, take him fishing, teach him archery and when he hits twelve I'll take him shooting and teach him shooting. When he hits fourteen I'll teach him weightlifting and powerlifting.
Poor little guy is the crash test dummy for my future sons.
RedMorpheus 9y ago
I absolutely love the way you handeld this, if i ever end up with sons i will be sure to follow your lead. Thank you for making the world a better place.
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cheezuzz 9y ago
Woa, dude. Society tells boys to be girls, and women to be men.
p3ndulum 9y ago
"Equality" is the process of reducing everything to its lowest common denominator.
cheezuzz 9y ago
The lowest common denominator of 3/2 and 4/3 is 6. Just sayin!
xfLyFPS 9y ago
Glad I am not living in that shit hole. Over here, the crafting lessons are divided by genders (Girls cook and knit, boys make toys, tools and furniture out of wood) and boys are encouraged to carry all the tables and chairs to get their energy out, and in PE boys regularly have wrestling competitions.
killcat 9y ago
I see a lot of comments on how this is "accidental" or that teachers don't "understand how boys and girls are different" I think that's incorrect, this is a plan. The "third wave" feminists are altering the system to produce men they can control, as the saying goes "Give me a boy at six and I'll control the man forever."
oldredder 9y ago
It already worked for the girls. The women today who can't bond/commit learned that by age 6 - honesty, loyalty are bad, victim-role & lying get you everything you want. I have no doubt some girls were directly told this. Teachers can say fucked up shit to kids thinking no one will remember it later.
rprando 9y ago
The only thing I remember about my preschool is that they had wrestling mats and let us have mini-wrestling competitions every couple days. That was in the 90s but I doubt they still allow that.
It's tough because in this day and age people will sue for just about anything. If your kid gets in a scuffle he'll probably get expelled which is a nightmare for parents that have to work or can't afford a better alternative to public school. And we all know what happens when a kid tries to fight back against a bully.
Just another reason not to have kids.
makethemsayayy 9y ago
With the world the way it is, I wouldn't feel moral about bringing a son into this world, at least not in the west. I will not have my child subconsciously and even overtly shamed for having a fucking dick. When if you look at human history, it's far fucking better to have one and it means you are more likely to be a leader of nations or something of importance.
asianmasaccount 9y ago
I was gonna say. Pop warner and the basketball team aren't going anywhere. It's a huge stretch to think the classroom is set up that way specifically to persecute boy. Probably a combination of lack of teacher manpower to supervise rough play and a classroom setup that reflects corporate culture.
But yea, after school sports.
grendalor 9y ago
It's not a stretch at all. Take a look at what they teach education MAs and PhDs, the people who run schools and school systems and who design the entire thing. It's man-hating feminism 150%. It's baked into the cake. It is ENTIRELY intentional to benefit girls and fuck over boys. Wake up.
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