TL;DR: After 23 years without success, I started lifting heavy weights following "Starting Strength", forced myself into uncomfortable situations and figured out how my programming (with the help of TRP) was contributing to my lack of success.
I'll lay the foundation of this post by sharing the first 23 years of my life.
I was in most ways a typical American boy. I did well academically, and played sports. I had a lot of friends, was well-known, and raised to be polite and compassionate.
Most of high school, I was a 6 foot 2, pudgy kid who lost about 40lbs every spring for Lacrosse season. I would then put it all back on. Never lifted a heavy weight.
I also went through high school a virgin.
And I went through high school frustrated and confused as to how dudes way shorter, uglier, stupider and douchier than me were hooking up with the girls I was talking to on AIM and imagining in fantasy love stories.
This trend continued into the college years, though I finally got laid once every couple of months. I dropped out of college, became a firefighter and paramedic, and nothing changed in terms of success with women.
January of 2013 rolled around and I was a 6'2 firefighter, with money, his own house, a good social life, interesting hobbies and a man. But I was still losing girls at bars to dudes who I considered well below me.
Hindsight tells me now what the problem was; I was a man on paper. In person, I was an unconfident, nervous wreck.
In January 2013, I decided to quit my annual 1-month long gym session where I would quit after a month and excuse my quitting as "I don't have time, I need my time for my intellectual pursuits. I was hamstering.
I spent 3 months with my head down, hitting the gym, and dropped about 20lbs and started to notice masculine features on my body. In complete honesty, I had never been able to produce a thick beard.. I was always producing a dirty looking beard. Within months of actively lifting (followed "Starting Strength"), I was suddenly able to produce a solid beard.
At the end of those 3 months, I met and began to date a woman 4 years older than I. And she was smoking hot.
I spent most of our relationship as her bitch, in constant fear of losing access to that FANTASTIC sex she was giving me.
The veterans of TRP will know exactly how this played out. Ultimately, she cheated on me, and then proceeded to hide it for 2 months before I snooped her phone and found out for myself.
We broke up in January 2014. I posted several throwaway threads in /r/relationships in hopes of finding some way to hamster myself back into my Ex's life. Around that time, the monthly "What subreddit do you hate most" popped up in AskReddit, and lo and behold, some stupid subreddit called /r/theredpill was right up at the top.
Apparently /r/theredpill was some den of evil, where men talk about how much better they are than women.
In all honesty, I rode into this subreddit on a white horse, with my white armor prepared to vanquish you all with my White Sword of White-Knightedness.
Such is life.
Since reading this sub, subscribing, and applying the thought processes, I have RIDICULOUSLY improved my interaction with women. Most recently, I fucked some girl in New Orleans on her bachelorette trip. She was scheduled to be standing on the altar 6 weeks later. This happened after she had been telling me about how amazing her fiance was. I only knew her first name, never got her number or facebook or anything. This all happened in a 6 hour window. We started talking at a casino, hit the party scene on Bourbon street, and then back to her hotel.
A week prior to fucking her, I participated in a drunken gang bang. I helped some super college slut ride the cock carousel, 4 dudes at one time. And her boyfriend was about 2 minutes down the road from where this happened.
After those 2 experiences, I was pretty much sold on TRP. I mean, I never thought of myself as a dude who would be part of a gangbang. Not just that, but I started it. This girl had us all 4 in a room, told us to close the door and lock it. I made the first move to get things moving, and basically acted as the director of this porn scene.
This was not the quiet, shy, shaking-nervous wreck of a boy I used to know.
And I attribute this complete 180 degree turn on 3 things:
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Lifting. Heavy. Weights. I NEVER in 23 years felt sexy. I NEVER heard through the grapevine about girls sitting around putting me on their “I’d fuck him list.” No, I was always on the “You’re such a nice guy, you’ll find some perfect girl someday.. just not me.” List. It’s been a year, and I’m now understanding what it’s like to catch women ogling, to be approached by them.. shit, I’m still getting used to women receiving my approaches without laughing. All because I put some muscle in my shoulders and chest, and improved my posture (deadlift gentlemen, deadlift).
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Overcoming Fears/Owning Myself. One of the worst arguments I had with my ex resulted in her telling me how big of a pussy I was. She said “Everyone knows you’re a pussy.” I knew it, too. But I thought I had been managing to hide it. I guess not. I had been in a handful of fights as a kid, and generally got my ass beat on every occasion. I generally hung out with older kids, and never had any natural ability to fight. So, for most of my life I found other men intimidating. I would back down from fights. I decided to start training MMA and regularly testing myself. I took up Brazilian jiu jitsu, and plan on competing. I also aspire to fight in an MMA fight next year. Just because I’ve been deathly afraid of fighting, I want to get in the cage with a guy who basically wants to kill me and test myself. I’ve heard Joe Rogan refer to this idea called “Self Sovereignty”, and that’s essentially what I’m working to improve. In fact, it is my second most important thing in life, next to my mission as a firefighter/paramedic.
- The most difficult, yet easiest part: Getting them off the pedestal. I grew up on Disney movies. I grew up in a household with a present mother, and a father all too often working late. My lack of success with women led me to asking other women for advice, and being programmed by their advice. Women are princesses, and I am their white knight. Jesus, I believed in this fantasy where I slave away at work and provide everything my wife needs. I FANTASIZED about having my wife at home watching Netflix all day. I was programmed so well that the idea of providing was basically turning me on. Jesus. But alas, my most recent experiences with women has really solidified the idea that women are just people too. They’re not worthy of a pedestal, and neither am I. That’s what’s been working for me.
If nothing else, lift heavy weights.
I’ll leave you with this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWUcHKAj_tc
IWantWhatsReal 10y ago
I wonder how many people swallow the red pill thanks to the marketing of haters.
Props to you OP. You're an inspiration.
Verlier 10y ago
There's no such thing as bad publicity.
ontheplains 10y ago
I came here due to one of those very threads bashing this sub, so I can't help but think "good, time to enlighten some more guys" every time it's mentioned derisively elsewhere.
I don't normally trust the Reddit hivemind, so I didn't come in thinking "I gotta see these sick fucks", but I also found so much more here than I ever expected. I thought I'd find some tricks that worked for a type of guy that I wasn't, but it's not tricks and it's not just for some theoretical douche bag - it's philosophy for every man.
garlicextract 10y ago
Were it not for Whiteknight haters who found TRP abhorrent, disgusting, misogynistic neckbeards... I might have been an abhorrent, disgusting, misogynistic neckbeard.
Thanks TRP haters, for introducing me to TRP.
bitchdantkillmyvibe 10y ago
Hahaha, isn't that the brilliant irony of it all? If I hadn't found this place I absolutely would have become a neckbeard living in my mother's basement. Because of this place, that's something I now know I'll never be. Silly feminists.
trpfieldreport 10y ago
Every time the "What subreddit sucks most" gets posted in /r/AskReddit, I guarantee TRP gains a substantial amount of subscribers.
xwm 10y ago
I gaurantee somewhere someone is doing this on purpose occasionally
edmproducerXX 10y ago
Probably the mods could look at the graph of new subscribers and predict when TRP was posted anywhere in reddit .
charlie_bodango 10y ago
That's what got me to look at it too.
draketton 10y ago
I haven't seen one of those surges in quite a while.
jolly--roger 10y ago
1: visit askreddit 2: post the question ...
you know the rest, the cycle repeats. 50k subscribers by the end of the week.
ThisShitRules 10y ago
Because it's not allowed to crosspost those threads on TRP anymore.
muddynips 10y ago
That's how I found out.
scuba182 10y ago
Me too
MrPotatoSmegma 10y ago
Best thing that's happened to me since the day I discovered Reddit
Hardparty 10y ago
Same here I think
PaulRivers10 10y ago
Same here, wasn't on a reddit, but elsewhere on a feminist-oriented site, someone was habitually bashing TRP and I was like "if these jackasses hate it so much, I gotta check it out".
Rehydrate 10y ago
Me too. I think someone said something about how all the members here were assholes so I basically subscribed before knowing anything about it.
DrakeSaint 10y ago
I did.
You guys should thank them, they're quite the publicity.
ElizabefWarrenBuffet 10y ago
same with bitcoin
Blake55 10y ago
<3 bitcoin
Chinny4daWinny 10y ago
The same fucking excuse I use when I decide to "Read a book instead of running."
I end up reading a page and getting on reddit. But now I've seen the error of my ways.
trpfieldreport 10y ago
I have the solution, because this is what I do:
iPod shuffle with an audiobook. Pop in my running earbuds that don't fall out, and hit the trail.
Chinny4daWinny 10y ago
I'll try that out. Thanks bro!
t21spectre 10y ago
If you like Sci-fi and have no moral objection to torrenting, I'd suggest the "Top 100 Sci-Fi Books" audiobook collection.
Mooshaq 10y ago
Post this on r/thankTRP, not here.
TaylorWolf 10y ago
Great story homie, MMA and Jiu Jitsu have also turned me into a desirable beacon of masculinity.
Mind if I ask what city you live in? I do lots of traveling and train all over the country. I'm in Atlanta ATM. Would be cool to roll with a fellow red pill. I want to compete soon as well.
trpfieldreport 10y ago
Northern Virginia. Right outside DC. If you're ever in the area, PM me. Would happily have you at our gym.
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TheSKSpecial 10y ago
Good to see another fireman on TRP.
It seems like whenever I run a good box, for the next couple weeks I'm 10x more fearless when it comes to game and approaching. Like, "I could have died yesterday, why give a fuck about if I get rejected tonight?" And a good call almost always makes for some interesting bar stories.
How about you? Has firefighting helped your game out at all?
trpfieldreport 10y ago
Jesus, yes.
Though I've been off the truck for awhile. These days I primarily staff the medic unit.
But after any good call, I'll find myself fearless for a couple days. That high you get.. makes you feel like you can tackle anything.
It makes for really good conversation and bar talk. And girls melt when you tell them what you do.
My partner and I once ran a code that went remarkably well. We pushed a multitude of drugs, got an intubation, and our support guys did amazing CPR with almost no interruption to compressions. It was intoxicating at the end of it. We all had smiles and felt that high you get from doing what you love, and doing it well.
5 minutes after leaving the hospital we were standing in line for coffee at Starbuck's, and my partner commented "Nobody here realizes that we were just doing CPR on a dead human." That captured the moment. The rest of the day after a wild shift, nobody can bring you down.
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+1 to feeling sexy after lifting. Not just appearance changes, but you just feel more substantial and masculine after lifting.
trpfieldreport 10y ago
I generally go to the sauna for 15-20 minutes after a lift. Dat look in the mirror when you come out of the sauna with a good pump and all sweaty.
Also, when you catch other guys mirin.
[deleted] 10y ago
Also when you buttfuck the other guys
Wait what
ThisShitRules 10y ago
>n-no homo
[deleted] 10y ago
Check out Boring But Big after you exhaust your noob gains.
Good shit man
trpfieldreport 10y ago
I'm feeling sort of close to that plateau.
But I'm also due for a cut, being about 18% bodyfat after winter >.>
Definitely will check this out.
speakeasy2d 10y ago
I did Texas method after SS and made all kinds of gains on it. Plateauing here in a bit then I'll switch to 531 BBB. 531 is monthly and TM is weekly.
Also, good report
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Strong bulk lol
Are you adding accessory work to SS?
trpfieldreport 10y ago
Yes. But that Boring but Big is looking like a beautiful regimen.
Zaorish9 10y ago
I just discovered TRP and started lifting 1 month ago at age 28. I feel measurably better but no success with women yet.
Can you be more specific about how long it took you to turn around from your beta-hood?
trpfieldreport 10y ago
It took me 3 months of seriously lifting to get to a physical attractiveness that made me comfortable, and brought me a beautiful girlfriend.
It took 9 months of her running my life and ultimately ripping my heart out for me to finally swallow the Red Pill philosophy.
I'm still wrestling back some of my old beta beliefs, but for the most part I've adopted a more alpha approach to life.
I highly recommend martial arts, such as Brazilian Jiu Jitsu. In fight club, Tyler says: "After fighting, everything else in your life got the volume turned down."
And it holds true. Confrontations with other men are much calmer now. Eye contact with other men, not a problem. Because I regularly compete with other men in combat (basically), I know I can at least handle myself.
EDIT: Deadlift. Deadlift. DEADLIFT.
If you're not doing deadlifts, you're doing it wrong. I recently hit 400 x 5 on DL, and I have never felt such a rush like that leaving the gym. What's better, is an old friend (and recently divorced) saw me, and decided to message me on Facebook. "Hey, we should meet up some time."
"There is no reason to be alive, if you can't do deadlift."
lethean1 10y ago
I started going to gym 3 months ago, and before that no girl ever looked at me. Well, lo and behold, here I am doing deadlifts one day and my friend notices that a hot girl is just standing there staring at my ass. Not a sneaky look, but just I dont care if others see me staring look. Man that felt so good. :P
antidoxdevice 10y ago
How much do you weigh currently?
trpfieldreport 10y ago
211lbs this morning, but probably 215 tomorrow. I fluctuate, but almost always between 210 and 215.
antidoxdevice 10y ago
Yeah 210lbs at 6'2 is pretty beefy and women will definitely be interested.
Ive gone from 5'10 135 lbs to 170lbs and noticed a huge change, im not planning on gaining anymore but I dont think itll make a difference anyway.
QQ_L2P 10y ago
Weight can fluctuate based on what you consume/excrete on a daily basis. Assuming a regular routine, measuring at the same time every day will give you the most accurate idea.
Zaorish9 10y ago
I will do deadlifts after work today. Thanks for the encouragement.
trpfieldreport 10y ago
Deadlifts and Squats. It's my bread and butter. There's debate within the community about the value of barbell benchpress vs a number of other chest exercises, but everyone is in agreement on Squats and Deadlifts.
t21spectre 10y ago
As someone told me, the only 3 things you need to do are deadlifts, squats, and bench press. All three hit the whole body.
PaulRivers10 10y ago
It's pretty common to need to also overhead press, to balance out the muscles that are used in the bench press. I am not an expert, so I do not know the details, but practically every program either does the overhead press, or does other exercises that use the same muscles.
widec 10y ago
I wish I could lift. Torn muscle in my shoulder says otherwise, my physio is advising me against it. It sucks being in an underdog position but I'll have to do the best with what I've got.
trpfieldreport 10y ago
I'm not educated in post-injury lifting, so trust your physio.
But I'm sure there are shoulder injury folks out there who are finding other ways to lift.
Squats, you could definitely do with a bad shoulder.
Have you tried asking in /r/fitness?
widec 10y ago
I'm waiting on my physio's opinion. Problem is, it's likely an injury that will stick with me for life.
trpfieldreport 10y ago
I have a bad left shoulder.. bad in that it's prone to injury.
It forces me to focus on form, over weight.
Thankfully it's never been seriously injured, but I've definitely had to stop lifting for a couple of weeks from it.
siqniz 10y ago
What style deadlift do you use?
trpfieldreport 10y ago
I don't know what to call it other than a deadlift.
I don't do the straight leg one. I bend at the knee, and I do alternating grip.
siqniz 10y ago
Oh ok. The one I'm most familiar with is the straight leg or Romanian Deadlift. I've never tried the other one, I will
ThisShitRules 10y ago
SRSLY?
wildchild11 10y ago
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FYI, backslashes escape metacharacters.
does not work but
will read as * golf clap *
ericrobert 10y ago
This sounds almost exactly like my story. Thanks for sharing man.
DrakeSaint 10y ago
Also hits very, very close here to my story. Go you, OP.
ericrobert 10y ago
I don't know if he said it enough times but "Lift heavy shit". Do a couple extra reps for me because I haven't been able to make it to the gym recently.
trpfieldreport 10y ago
Lift heavy things, put them back down.
Eventually lifting heavy weights in the gym will lead to lifting light girls in the bedroom. Girls love when you pick them up.
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trpfieldreport 10y ago
What struck me was watching the hamster in action.
She and I danced, flirted and had very overtly sexual talk. I went to kiss her initially and she stopped me, professing she loves her fiance too much.
Okay, so I dropped it and continued partying. Then she kissed me, and said "That's all you're getting."
Shortly following was another kiss, and another, and a make out, and then I was getting my fingers wet.. and then we were naked and banging.
But damn, she sure does love her fiance.
1talldarkandhandsome 10y ago
I love it!
"These hoes ain't loyal"- RAP MUSIC
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Neither. There is no system. You just go for it. Slow if you want a slow kiss, fast if you want to just kiss the damn woman. But there is no system for making it happen, other than the usuals of give-no-fucks frame et al.
The thing about women is that if you're able to take an inch, you're usually able to steal a mile as well, most often with her enthusiastic help. Men don't usually do this; we're capable of "just getting a makeout/blowjob/whatever" and leaving it at that unless we choose to go for more, but with women, once you've cracked them in any way physically you're on a one-way ticket to Poontown with zero stops unless you make them yourself. Think of kissing like that, just a normal beginning - ticket, to keep it within my shitty metaphor - to an inevitable end.
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trpfieldreport 10y ago
You know, when I first met this girl that night, I was trying to get with her friend.
I mentally wrote her off as "Not happening, she's engaged."
That's probably why I was successful. And once she showed interest in me, I had about 30 seconds of "Oh man, the poor fiance, I shouldn't do this."
Then I decided "Fuck it, a slut's a slut." and fucked her.
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trpfieldreport 10y ago
Middle/Wealthy White Texas Daddy's girl.
Certainly came from a wealthy suburban area of Texas.
I wouldn't be shocked in the slightest if I wasn't the first guy she's cheated on her fiance with.
varisforge 10y ago
I wish you had left her with the phrase, "I wonder what your fiancee would think of you now."
trpfieldreport 10y ago
I wasn't gunna be a dick about it.
In truth, she felt pretty bad in the morning.. so morning sex was not on the table.
I literally woke up, said "Shit, my flight is in 2 hours", gave her a hug and a kiss on the cheek and rolled out.
Now I'm just that guy she fucked in New Orleans.
1talldarkandhandsome 10y ago
You are doing him a favor.
"Good guy redpiller; fucks your bitch to let you know she is an unfaithful trick"
Moneyley 10y ago
Question: What face or meme would you use if you posted this? Upvotes if you post it! Then, take your probably downvotes like a man!
1talldarkandhandsome 10y ago
I imagine it should be good guy greg. Post that shit in advice animals.
Could you imagine all the hate traffic and new subscribers TRP would get
nrokchi 10y ago
Great, great assessment. That honesty with yourself made it possible for you to go for TRP. Too many people claim TRP, but lack this characteristic.
HeadingRed 10y ago
"My lack of success with women led me to asking other women for advice, and being programmed by their advice."
This- learn from it.
[deleted] 10y ago
Thanks for sharing. You rock.
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trpfieldreport 10y ago
I always handle things calmly, where possible.
And I maintain a compassionate approach.
You all might be surprised, but I'm also a fairly liberal person, and a vegan (GASP).
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trpfieldreport 10y ago
I have reflected on it longer than anything else in my life.
My life is guided by two principles:
Enjoy life. This is your one and only, and all evidence suggests it ends after this, so enjoy it.
Sure, my compassion might occasionally not work best for me, but I think it's the only healthy way for me to live.
What makes me a liberal? My values, my view of what would improve the lives of everyone on the planet.
I feel obligated, because I have the ability. As a paramedic, I feel obligated to go see if that person who fell is okay. Occasionally, that will get me into trouble. I've been punched in the face for it before. Big deal, I'll be fine.
But I couldn't live with myself if I didn't.
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greyflcn 10y ago
Getting all Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs up in here.
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My main reason for liberalism is the realization that pure libertarianism or pure socialism would both be bad.
But that the blind assumption of libertarianism is that all wealth and power is acquired through diligence and hard work. Only.
While that figures in for a great deal of the economy, at the extremes, that logic falls apart.
You can become crippling poor even if you work your ass off, or blindly rich by winning the lottery/stock market/born to rich parents due to sheer luck.
Then of course there's the whole corruption end of things that further throws the "diligence = wealth" away from reality.
Externalities? You want those solved through court cases alone, and not regulations preventing the damage the first place? Tough shit getting someone to cough up the cash for that. Exxon Valdez took 20 years to pay out, and was 1/5th what the original court victory was.
Adach 10y ago
I totally hear you man but whose point are you arguing exactly?
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theozoph 10y ago
There's little to no chances of that ever happening, and that period was already quite bluepill, despite the myth it engendered. The truth is that traditional societies are more stable, more prosperous (our current wealth was created during periods of traditional hegemony), and less harsh on beta men. It makes sense that many here would want such a period to return, even though it probably wasn't as rosy as we think it was.
OTOH, I think the time we now live in is one of the most interesting, because we understand now the workings of the sexual market on a modern, conscious level (at least us here at TRP). The effects of such an awareness spreading in society will impact the sexual market in major way in the coming 20 years. Whether it will mean total degeneracy, a return to more traditional forms, or brand new arrangements previously unthought of is the big question.
While I believe traditional forms have been most successful in the past, the emergence of modern contraceptives and medicines, soon to be joined with efficient male contraceptives (Vasagel^© ) and wide-spread artificial conception means that the mechanics of familial construction will entirely be in our hands. Even disregarding the social innovations of our age, I don't see how shotgun weddings and arranged marriages are going to work in such a world, barring a technological and social crunch of epic proportions.
It's going to be an interesting time to be alive.
1talldarkandhandsome 10y ago
wait wait wait....... how much weight do I have to lift before I get issued my beard?
evpanda 10y ago
It's not the amount of weight it's how long (months).
trpfieldreport 10y ago
I'd say this happened somewhere around the 300lb Deadlift mark.
1talldarkandhandsome 10y ago
So I still got a couple pounds to go.
TheIslander829 10y ago
Shit, I've been lifting for years and still can't grow a proper beard.
Bodyweight: 144lbs.
Bench: 225lbs (8 reps)
Leg press: 950lbs (8 reps)
Bicep curls: 100lbs (8 reps)
trpfieldreport 10y ago
WHERE'S YOUR DEADLIFT?
TheIslander829 10y ago
I don't deadlift. I don't know which day to do it.
My routine is
A: back, traps, biceps, abs.
B: chest, triceps, shoulders
C: quads, hamstrings, calves
To which day do I add deadlift, C?
ThisShitRules 10y ago
Do SS or www.stronglifts.com (spin-off of SS). Doesn't matter if you're not new, you can still get advantage from it.
bradyo2 10y ago
sit down, son.
Spookybear_ 10y ago
You should really try mixing it up. Instead of always doing a brosplit, switch to a strength program for 3-5 months, then go back to a more bodybuilding type routine.
trpfieldreport 10y ago
I would probably add it to Back day, and make it my first lift.
But to each their own.
But Deadlifts are insane for building muscle. They work almost every muscle group.
But hey, I am not an authority AT ALL.
I recommend
/r/fitness /r/weightroom /r/bodybuilding
That's where I get my info.
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Fucking saved.
TheIslander829 10y ago
Based on my other lift numbers, how much do you reckon I can deadlift for 1 rep?
trpfieldreport 10y ago
Jesus, I'd hate to give you bad advice. But your lifts are relatively close to mine. You could probably 1 rep max at 300+.
I didn't incorporate deadlifts when I started. I was squatting 275 when I started deadlifting, and my deadlift was about 275.
But deadlift progresses way faster than other lifts. I was above 350 in a matter of 2 months.
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trpfieldreport 10y ago
The uninitiated.
But we are initiated, aren't we /u/gilescorey10?
TheIslander829 10y ago
I can't squat, bro. I can't throw a baseball, or swing a tennis racket either.
I need surgery on my left shoulder, and I'm waiting for my insurance to give me the go-ahead. If I try to hold a barbell like that, it'll hurt like a motherfucker.
That's why I do leg press instead. It's the 2nd best after squats.
I'm 5'6" btw.
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QQ_L2P 10y ago
Judging by those numbers you should probably check north of your mangina.
Some people just can't grow a proper beard, I guess they don't have the hair density for it. I have copious amounts of body hair, so if you're ever feeling filling in those patchy spots, I can hook you up.
[deleted] 10y ago
I've been slacking on applying this to my life. Not anymore. Thanks for sharing, you're an inspiration man.
manwithawoman 10y ago
just a side note: Lifting heavy actually is not good for your joints and you're not gonna build muscles with heavy weights. Lift light weights.
ThisShitRules 10y ago
plz go
trpfieldreport 10y ago
Are you trolling?
manwithawoman 10y ago
no. go to /r/bodybuilding
light weights and high reps is better than heavy weights and low reps.
trpfieldreport 10y ago
/r/broscience
Beltox2pointO 10y ago
Heavy weights for size lighter with more reps more often for strength.