Do you know how birth control pill works? It tricks the body into constantly thinking that it's already pregnant to avoid pregnancy.
Women want to fuck an alpha guy, so that the baby can get his good genes, and afterwards they want a beta guy to look after the baby while the father is out there screwing other women. Because the "beta guy" is so trustable, and would never let her down; she ultimately chooses him.
These beta people are sacrifices of the humankind, they don't enjoy their lives, their genes don't pass on etc etc... They grow up someone else's child, they're complete failures but some sacrifices have to be made, always. But would you like to be a sacrifice?
When a woman takes the pill, the body constantly thinks it's pregnant and it naturally finds beta men attractive.
Those are usually crazy BPD women whose hormones are actually fucked up and will make you go through hell if you start a relationship with them, it usually leads to oneitis because of the emotional rollercoaster.
So when women think that they're pregnant, they actually want a beta guy to look after the baby. This is why feminized cute boys like Justin Bieber, K-POP band members are now "sex-symbols", whereas in the past it used to be masculine guys like Alain Delon, James Dean, Marlon Brando, Steve McQueen, Paul Newman.
Second and the obvious reason is that they settle down with a feminized provider, because they have to. He is the best they've got in their hands for their survival. They lived their slut years, and they now have to settle down. They got their Alpha Fucks, now they need their Beta Bucks. $$$
YoungTrappin 3y ago
I’m going through this now with my current girlfriend. Her birth control lapsed because she needs to get a new prescription because it’s been a year. Anyways it has been a rough two weeks. She isn’t the same and she’s constantly taking slutty pics of herself and posting them on social media. I don’t know what to do besides just letting her. I don’t want the jealousy getting the best of me. I’ve went through her entire phone and found nothing. She used to be a very quiet girl but since I took her virginity I basically turned her into a slut and I’m worried she’s gonna want to ride the cock carousel soon. I’m thinking about pulling back from her to eventually just set her free.
DoubleConversation4 3y ago
She started looking for an exit plan.
Let her do it.
It's only downhill from here. And a woman is cheating and she doesn't want you to know, you won't. But most cases, she wants you to know.
She no longer has any reason to not fuck everyone
She will.
You're thinking correct, finish it right now and start fucking another women.
She's looking for an exit plan + she thinks she no longer needs you
Eventually, she will cheat if you guys keep going on. It's best to end it hard and quick right now
But at the same time, you should know that all of this probably isn't caused solely because of "birth control"
It's pretty much possible you've gone soft
Read the sidebar again
YoungTrappin 3y ago
I was reading a few points about maintaining my frame and things like that and I believe that’s where I went wrong. I did get too soft and sensitive with her and I’m starting to become a doormat and folding to her every want and need. I need to start saying no to her. I am fortunate to have a good group of women coworkers who have seen my relationship with my girlfriend and how great it has been. So they know I can lay some pipe or treat a woman right. I know a few of them are just waiting for the day I tell them I’m single. Likewise probably for her. It’s a fear of mine but also I’m done wasting my time and being distracted. I need to get my shit together, mainly filing custody paperwork for my 2 year old son from a past relationship. This girl I’m with now is too young and I feel she just wants to be free.
DoubleConversation4 3y ago
Long relationships do that to people. Just leave her.
YoungTrappin 3y ago
Okay. Thank you for the advice man.
thewhipofacane 3y ago
So much ignorance in this shit. I'm one of those kpop boys you mentioned and yes, i do get laid from white girls, and i know white girls who would exclusively date these kpop types of boys. Being a man doesn't mean you need to have a beard. Being a man is knowing the world and knowing yourself my friend.
Edit: i think your perception comes from lack of real life experience with any of those "beta" kpop boys. Well, if you meet me. You'll change your mind. Theres betas and alpha in all cultures. At the gym there full of betas that look like he could kill you in a heart beat but still a simp to women.
DoubleConversation4 3y ago
Some girls have their types, just as some men do. No denying that.
And you're missing the point. Having an androgen face doesn't mean that you're feminine. Did you even think about this post or have you just started tearing up when you read about the KPOP band members and you couldn't think straight because of that?
A woman wants to date a man, not another woman. Feminine will always submit to masculine, whether woman, or a cute boy.
You sound like you're 18-19 years old but I'm sure as time passes you'll get more masculine as KPOP trend dies after the teenager-stage.
Sidenote: I was one of those feminine looking boys too when I was young. I worked for the local textile companies as a male model for a long time when I was in my hometown. Just so you know that I experienced it too.
thewhipofacane 3y ago
Look up simon dominic, dude is 36 years old. Still look like a 22. I'm current dating (not even dating but spinning plate/ fwb) a 28 years old Dutch woman and she doesn't even like Kpop anymore. So not sure what you mean with grow out the "KPOP trend" as you get older. Remember, as for women, they simply opt for what is indoctrinated into them at young age.
Here's the proof that you have no experience with what you are writing about: kpop boys are notorious fuckboys (come to one of the k parties and see it yourself) and the fantasy is one of those badboys fall in love and owned by the woman.
You even answered this same question in your own post by saying cute boys like justine bieber are the sex symbols. What is a sex symbol? Thats because women wants to fuck them and have them genes not just cuddle with them? Them boys are still young and not even established yet to be a provider. Does Justin bieber look like a fuck boy or a provider?
Fuckboys spinning plates is young masculinity, established stable men looking to build a family is mature masculinity.
You point is very valid that women submits to masculine men (or even enemies) , but you examples are generalized and lacks real experience. Also, women don't even want to settle with beta guys UNLESS its that or death of her lineage. If you have had experiences with a lot of women, you know women absolutely HATES settling with betas simps TO THE BONES, let alone hypothesize that women look for betas to settle down. Thats all.
DoubleConversation4 3y ago
Dude, do you know how to read?
It seems like you're not even reading the same thing I wrote.
Post wall women disagree.
Post wall. And she got interested because of your looks, and she is staying because of the real you. You could say that her interest in your looks was only a gateway.
That's not even what I'm talking about. If anything, it supports my theory.
And what kind of proof is that? A lot of factors are in there, social proof & promiscuousness & money & looks. And that wouldn't be an accurate comparison. I didn't say that those cute boys can't be fuckboys, again you're taking my "feminine low-t cuteboy" assumption for "androgen face". There's not a grand mean in that comparison as well.
To be completely honest, I don't think you're understanding what I'm writing because what you're talking about is completely unrelated to what I'm talking about or you're a sperg. I tried to, but I'm yet to figure out which one. I tried to make it right in my reply, telling that "you're missing the point", but you again went off the rails and started speaking bullshit. You keep going off topic and you're misinformed.
You sound really low IQ, maybe around 90. You're blocked, or this will drag on. You just sound like you're trying to rationalize your attractiveness in a low IQ way.
thewhipofacane 3y ago
If you insult me and block me, you already butthurt.
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Boigotideas 3y ago
That’s not at all how birth control works though.
hockeyaddict87 3y ago
Birth control does mess it all up. I see it in college a lot because I know girls who are on birth control and antidepressants which makes them have no desire for men it’s sad.
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Theoneandholy69 3y ago
I genuinely pity anyone who steps into a relationship with a bpd woman. They are women on extreme mode, there is no winning. If you're a beta you're done for, she'll keep dragging you on until there's nothing left.
Don't women go for betas just so they can play it safe? After a while even they realize that it's not the same as dating an alpha
Ian_Dima 3y ago
This sounds alot like "me uga uga, me big chest, lemme smash, why you not lemme smash? why you let beta smash? you on da pill?"
Representative1234 3y ago
This is possibly the dumbest thing I’ve ever read on here
DoubleConversation4 3y ago
What part of it do you find false? Can you thoroughly explain and state your side?
Representative1234 3y ago
The idea that birth control alters the way women perceive men is pretty retarded in concept and there’s no real evidence that would make it seem remotely true.
With that logic pretty much any medication that alters your hormonal state would change your sexual preferences regardless of if your a girl or a guy
DoubleConversation4 3y ago
So, let me ask you some questions.
How do sexual preferences form?
Why do TRP advise men to lift?
Why are women more emotional?
Why the only woman who is going to love you for real is your mother?
To be honest, I was expecting something more profound when you posted your first reply.
Representative1234 3y ago
Environment and exposure.
It’s a productive and easily sustainable habit and fit men r the male beauty standard
Different hormonal balance
I don’t really subscribe to that believe.
love1.an intense feeling of deep affection.
Any woman can be deeply affectionate towards you
I’m not sure what u mean by thar
DoubleConversation4 3y ago
I will try not to do a detailed explanation in an 'explain like I'm 5 manner" like I did in the OP, but here we go.
You're right. Most of your sexual preferences form when you're still a child, C.G Jung and Freud has great material on this.
Did you ever notice the pattern of feminine men feeling more attraction for more dominant or disrespectful slut girls?
What do feminine men have in common?
Usually, a very loving mother and an unauthoritarian father (They build up feminine psyche)
And low amount of testosterone.
Look up Leonard Shlain's books (Especially "Sex, Time and Power", true evidence you're looking for)
Those are the minor reasons, main reason is to increase testosterone, which is the hormone responsible for masculinity.
No, because women needed to depend on their feelings more in nature.
They can, but will a woman other than your mother ever love you because you're you? Not because you're attractive, not because you're funny. Not because you're providing etc etc...
And I should say that rollercoasters don't last forever.
Main reason that only woman who will love you for real is because of oxytocin their bodies release when they're pregnant. It makes them bond to the offspring, so they will not leave the child in the nature.
If you're looking for a real evidence about my original post, it's out there. Although this reply should be enough to clear the question marks, you get the point.
Representative1234 3y ago
Birth control doesn’t raise a woman’s testosterone,and how would you say guys are gay then?
Sure.
My initial reason was actually wrong. "Empirical evidence suggests that girls are socialized to be emotional, nonaggressive, nurturing, and obedient, whereas boys are socialized to be unemotional, aggressive, achievement oriented, and self-reliant. Peers continue this process as children develop and mature in effect constraining how, where, why, and with whom certain emotions are expressed".
You didn’t specify unconditional love. I don’t think any person that isn’t your parents is capable of unconditional love.
oxytocin is released by the stretching of the cervix(from labor) and breastfeeding,while birth control convinces your body it’s pregnant it doesn’t convince your body your in labor 24/7 or breastfeeding.
And assuming you’re correct and it did,these women would form a motherly connection to feminine men
“It’s out there”
DoubleConversation4 3y ago
???
As for the answer Freud talks about this but you're totallyyy off point here. I was talking about how hormones affect sexual preferences.
What birth control pills contain is estrogen and progesterone. Look up what they do.
When you can't use your fists for protection, you learn how to use your words. What you're talking about is not the reason, it's the result. You're off the point here too.
True, greeks had 7 words for love. I was talking about mother's oxytocin, again a hormone that is responsible for the bonding of offspring and mother. Probably only true thing you've said in last 3 responses.
???
It's the other way around. Release of Oxytocin stimulates ripening of the Cervix.
Breast feeding starts after birth, not when you're still pregnant.
Labor and ovulation are not the same things.
You're off the point here too.
???
Do you know how Oxytocin works?
Off the point here again too.
Representative1234 3y ago
Ik they essentially convince your body that it’s pregnant and make ur it harder for sperm to survive,so why would that lead women to be attracted to feminine men
It’s more so culture. Girls are taught differently that boys are.
“Oxytocin is released into the bloodstream as a hormone in response to stretching of the cervix and uterus during labor and with stimulation of the nipples from breastfeeding. This helps with birth, bonding with the baby, and milk production.”
What’s your iq?
You gave me a singular reference that was void of any quote or citing.
mr_Tobbor 3y ago
Bargain sex for commitment. Elementary.
SKRedPill 3y ago
There's a herd energy to a woman. The hive mind does have an impact on her frame. Though if you are looking at Japan, that is more extreme.
CosmicSpiral 3y ago
Regarding the appeal of "feminized" men in Korea and Japan, it's the association of cleanliness and decorum with status. With the latter country, this is a very old social dichotomy that can be traced back to the Heian court. The top tier men involved in bureaucracy and royal lineage don't have obvious musculature (no strenuous labor like farmers or merchants), possess pale skin (no working in the fields), lack facial imperfections or scars (sans manual labor and fighting) and observe propriety in behavior and grooming to an absurd degree (no flouting of social norms in a strict hierarchy). Sublimated masculine behavior is still a prime fixture to arouse Japanese women, but overt masculine features in men aren't held up in high regard.
I'm not well-versed in Korean cultural history but I think the draw of K-pop stars should be obvious. They combine the physical features that signal high social ranking with the harmless demeanor of puppies. This is an ideal way to court young girls in Korea where reputation and judgments off appearance remain ubiquitous, although many of them admit an absence of any visceral attraction when interviewed (in one girl's words, she just wanted to "pet and snuggle with him". They act as safe fantasy vehicles for teenagers/young adults.
pink_nationals 3y ago
amazing writing, thanks for sharing!
acoltismypassport 3y ago
As someone well informed on this stuff, you nailed it.
It's also worth mentioning that the fascination over Kpop idols in Korea is confined to middle school girls, maybe some high school chicks. Grown ass women aren't into that. The industry caters to the fanbase - young girls.
In schools, universities and the workplace, it is the masculine men that women desire, not the 'cute' pencil neck with 11 inch arms. There's definitely more leeway for that kind of man in Asia, but the counterpart in the west will get very little play, and not exactly from quality women.
As always, if you want first hand evidence: look who the women go for on OLD. It definitely isn't the Auschwitz mode pussy who barely looks like a teenager.
ToraChan23 3y ago
From what I learned in college, grown ass women are also into Kpop stars. Even older married women
pink_nationals 3y ago
how old are these pop stars
acoltismypassport 3y ago
Usually late teens to late twenties, a few exceptions here and there.
therealsuH 3y ago
As someone who is actually Korean and has a lot of family in Korea, it's interesting seeing different people's explanation or analysis of this entire phenomenon.
I'd like to add that, many older women in Korea still fantasize and wish they were "younger" so they'd have a chance with these Kpop idols and famous actors.
There are Korean idols and stars who are very masculine in the traditional sense. The "feminized" Kpop boys are a manufactured image by big corporations like JYP and other talent agencies in Korea. This is all economics and about selling an image, a brand, a "type" of man to the general public; that'll garner millions of dollars and fans.
CosmicSpiral 3y ago
Lee Byung-hun was the first person that came to mind.
How much influence would you say late 90's J-pop had on molding K-pop's image branding and the grooming of idols to become public faces? I've heard conflicting opinions that it was integral, just one of many factors, and K-pop norms developed independently.
therealsuH 3y ago
Korean music and culture are heavily influenced by the United States of America. However, I know J-pop was the first to build idol groups.
The original structural formula of idol groups, thanks to J-pop, are still used to this day in K-pop. However, Koreans tweaked the formula, won the pop culture war, and now it is a global phenomenon.
PS: I fucking hate K-pop, but I'll use it for my benefit if needed.
Whitified 3y ago
As an actual Asian (asian-asian) I believe it's more than that. Heian or pre-ww2 culture has long been washed away by communism/democracy (depending where you're from) and has absolutely no bearing on modern Asia unless it serves a specific corporate, political or gynocentric purpose. Or if it's simply symbolic.
No, I believe it's as simple as people knowing deep down that in today's society, being female is a simply an advantage. I believe everyone here agrees with that too. So naturally, being feminine-looking implies high social status. It implies to people you can get away with more. Drop this feminine-looking guy straight into any society before 1800AD and watch how women back then find him "creepy".
For Western equivalent of this "phenomenon", look no further than the "male" half of every lesbian couple.
CosmicSpiral 3y ago
Democracy has had very little impact on Japan culturally; economic prosperity, on the other hand, was greatly influential. Also you vastly overestimate how much Asia shifted after the introduction of Western political structures. Just look at how the surplus of men in China is upending the sexual marketplace without altering social norms (sticking to them is one of the issues exacerbating unrest).
Feminine men have always taken root in urban, cosmopolitan hubs where knowing how to navigate the social structure was patently superior to raw ability. Part of this is the ruling class attempting to bifurcate itself from the lower classes, the other is the demands and amenities of urban life superseding the virtues that laid the foundation for their material excess. It's one of the few secular phenomena you can set your watch to.
Whitified 3y ago
I doubt that. How do you explain the rise and fall of beards on men then? Specifically, beards on men have long been a symbol of status, power and wisdom throughout history. Perhaps only the West and it's chivalric beliefs is the exception here (knights are often portrayed as feminine-looking men too), but even then it's arguable.
With the rise of the West and the subsequent colonialism, be it through East India Company or the UN, pretty much all the world today regards beards as low status. Professional men are even expected to be clean shaven at times. Having a beard today at best means you're old, at worse you're a pedophile. Even among modern Muslim groups that encourage members to grow beards sometimes admit too that they find themselves "creepy" for doing so.
Can this be explained by simply urbanization? Urbanization is not new. What's new now is the feminism that came from the West. Therefore it's more likely that feminism (and the resulting implication of women having higher social status) is the cause.
CosmicSpiral 3y ago
What time frame and scale are talking about here? Beards have risen and fallen and risen and fallen in accordance with the times, oftentimes within social classes.
Be careful about taking historical illustrations at face value.
That's about conformity.
That's a very broad statement. Can you provide convincing evidence this is the case? If it's true, my assertion that the loss of status is a reflection of an elite class separating itself from the lower classes would still be a more convincing explanation. Beards are rejected since anyone can grow one, and the aspirational class must distinguish itself by embracing an opposite set of signs and beliefs. This same motivation causes them to espouse nonsense about the downfall of the nuclear family despite possessing the highest marriage rates and highest retention rates.
That's a false dilemma. It can be (and usually is) a confluence of multiple factors, not to mention urbanization and feminism go hand in hand.
Slut_Slayer9000 3y ago
A. legit some women want a pet
B. They aren't hot enough to get the men they truly desire so they settle.
C. They are broken, typically due to Daddy/family issues.
All options lead to the same place: Regret once they hit 30/40's
doveenigma13 3y ago
I remember reading about this 20 years ago actually.
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Also, they are being brainwashed in a huge way into the whole "masculinity is bad" idea, so a lot of these women do actually believe that masculine men are crazy perverts who are potential rapists or wife beaters. They genuinely do, so they go for the feminine version who is far less likely to be that deranged thing they think a masculine man is.
I saw a girl in Twitter the other day, die hard feminist, fighting everybody, saying that men are a disease and should be eliminated, being absolutely nonsensical when someone talked back to her with arguments, etc, you know the type. Her favorite band? BTS, the biggest korean k-pop band, and she's in love with these teen-girl-looking dudes.
Most ironically she posted that her favorite character from any series is Tommy Shelby from Peaky Blinders, a gang leader from Birmingham in the 1920's, ex WW1 soldier who takes shit from no one and is basically an avatar of manliness, including the 'toxicity" feminists talk about, so you know... it's all a front, deep inside, she wants that guy.
By the way, if you decide to throw time away with a series, Peaky Blinders is indeed very recommendable.
Phoenixtorment 3y ago
Can confirm Peaky Blinders as recommendable.
DoubleConversation4 3y ago
Masculinity is toxic until a spider needs to killed.
Casanova-Quinn 3y ago
Similarly, there are no feminists in a dangerous situation. They will agree with “women and children first.”
DoubleConversation4 3y ago
"That's because women are physically weaker than men!"
That's what they would say but in the first place it's not about physical traits of the genders, it's about how worth they are.
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Haha true, or until there's some noise in the middle of the night, and so on
martyn100999 3y ago
Tommy Shelby is a good example of what masculinity is in my opinion
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He is, taking the whole alcoholism and cigarettes thing out though.
I did learn a lesson from that character - Don't fucking apologize. I knew that already, but when I heard him say it, it just fully clicked in place in me for some reason.
martyn100999 3y ago
Yeah binging alcohol and cigarettes isn’t so good.
Also his abundance mentality and ability to walk away hit home for me.
CoyotexStark 3y ago
The birth control stops the women from ovulating. That's true. But I don't know whether what you're saying is the cause or the effect. It could be that women also aren't considered attractive by alpha males when they aren't ovulating. Furthermore their ability to read facial expressions decrease by approximately 10%. That could also be a contributing factor for choosing certaint guys over others. The libido also goes down with most women on birth control. So they might go for men with less testosterone, since they know those won't jump ship the moment she is not stable or doesn't want to fuck.
Many angles here. We can't attribute it to one aspect, that's for sure.
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LiveAFTSOV 3y ago
haha, man betas have children too.
DoubleConversation4 3y ago
Not all of them, and just because I put that in there it doesn't mean it applies to all of the beta men.
Zaoismus 3y ago
This is why civilization will collapse.
or, the man betas raise kids that weren't theirs to be just like them. Weak and pathetic.
chesty666 3y ago
My belief is that birth control harms the mental state of women beyond recovery. Why do you think so many women today are emotional messes / depressed and hooked on prescription pills later in life.
DoubleConversation4 3y ago
^
You're right.
Women depend on their feelings more
Feelings are created by hormones
Hormone imbalances are created by birth control
Birth control creates crazy women
GMack17 3y ago
Social status trumps all that shit.
Foend 3y ago
This post makes no sense considering that beta traits were selected for by evolution.
A mix of beta and alpha traits are necessary for survival in humans. In reality beta traits are actually just normal socialisation in humans.
A pure alpha male in a community would be quickly killed or ostracised by the rest of the pack, humans do not regularly operate under such a dichtonomy. Socialisation and placation of the group is required and this often becomes trading of favours and status and supplicating social actions.
The behaviour your describing is actually mental dependency issues and has nothing to do with being a beta or an alpha. There not "feminised" men, they are males that never learned how to socialise properly, most likely due to absent fathers or a plethora of other issues.
DoubleConversation4 3y ago
This is the only reply that's actually well thought that makes points against my post. My answer is going to be a bit of mess but I'm on phone.
Not only because of an absent father, because of social media and an unauthoritarian father.
They are feminized men considering the social media's social programming.
A pure alpha male would be killed if he is not tactfully attractive in that setting.
Beta traits are selections of nature, right. But it should be balanced, and nowadays girls are going for the pure alphas more than the balanced guys for over compensation. Beta traits are positive feminine qualities that operate under the gender archetype of psyche.
ellendegenorate 3y ago
This place is gold sometimes https://i.imgur.com/feHAr3O.png
DoubleConversation4 3y ago
Anon sounds like he can't look into the situation from another perspective, and never really seen the outside.
meerita 3y ago
Women go with them for these reasons:
IterMercator 3y ago
So basically looking for stability, especially when she realises she is loosing option
meerita 3y ago
Yes. She has nothing to offer than the man can already provide/get.
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DoubleConversation4 3y ago
Yeah, point about social proof is correct. It's reason even most ugly actors swim and drown in pussy.
But, masculine men exist today too and they're celebrities as well just like the feminized cute boy celebrities.
And, feminized cute boys existed back then too.
And today, we're seeing feminine cute boys being sexualized more than they were used to.
And, take a look at who gets popular around in highschool settings nowadays. Cute boys are more popular than the masculine guys. Social proof in this example works in reverse.
stevankiing 3y ago
Most women who do settle for a beta male provider are usually the more masculine women. Very feminine women don't settle for a beta, for a very short period of time.
mr_Tobbor 3y ago
It's a continuum. No Alpha OR Beta.
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SvenAtLarge 3y ago
Few things...
Women have preferences and types just like we do. I'm not attracted to bubble butt blonds. Or big tits. Never sell yourself short with any woman at any time. You are still some smokeshow's type somewhere. But keep some focus on the basics. Dress. Fitness. Success. Confidence. I have been surprised at the calibre of women who got head over heels for me over the years. Every time I can pinpoint something from basic RP theory I was doing right at the time.
Women have a streak of rebellion in them against men. Sometimes the beta bucks is her "FUCK YOU, DAD!" to the guy who made her an alpha widow. It's also why she's gonna divorce rape him in 8 to 10 years and run off with a druggie deadbeat. Cause fuck that betabux too.
arakouzo 3y ago
It's less wicked than you're imagining. It's not even intentional what women do.
Women genuinely believe that they hate masculine men and like smart, funny, nice guys. When they meet a man they are attracted to, because they are attracted to him, they assume he must be smart, funny, and nice. You, me, and all men know that he's a hot, confident man and whether or not he's actually smart, funny, and nice is completely irrelevant. But the women don't. They just assume since they're attracted to the guy, that he clearly is a smart, funny, nice guy and isn't a masculine man, because they think they hate masculine men and like smart, funny, nice guys.
Six weeks later, the guy "turns into an asshole." You and I know he was always a confident, masculine man. But the women genuinely believe he was a smart, funny, nice guy who changed.
Famous guys like Justin Bieber don't apply to normal life. These are famous, wealthy men. That kind of power lets you set the tone for what is and isn't masculine.
IterMercator 3y ago
This is more accurate I would say. I understand TRP is a philosophy but it's about figuring out the nature of women/sex-dynamics, but some people get carried away and actively think that women actively abide by these rules like a mathematical function, when in reality it's closer to finding and observing behaviour patterns.
Women don't have to work for anything and with feminism, aren't even accountable for what they do do, on top of that with feminised and "simpified" men running afoot, they know (or at least unawaringly expect) they have stability to be cared for by these men. It's almost as if it's a social safety net that they never have to work for stability, but just have to find someone who will provide it consistently (hence why they do for feminine men). It's the same for anyone who was in that position, if you're never expected to work and spoon fed all your life, then you're going to only work as hard to get spoon fed more in the easiest way possible.
(This doesn't excuse that they will fuck an absolute Chad, that's a given, but to be able to do both or at least get away with both, you need a feminine/simp/beta-bucks man who is still going to cave in a give you stability even if you are shagging another man.)
DoubleConversation4 3y ago
You're right.
My reply to another comment about this:
"Yeah, point about social proof is correct. It's reason even most ugly actors swim and drown in pussy.
But, masculine men exist today too and they're celebrities as well just like the feminized cute boy celebrities.
And, feminized cute boys existed back then too.
And today, we're seeing feminine cute boys being sexualized more than they were used to.
And, take a look at who gets popular around in highschool settings nowadays. Cute boys are more popular than the masculine guys. Social proof in this example works in reverse"
jojojijo333 3y ago
BB boy is also easy to control, AF boy doesn't take her shit
Zaoismus 3y ago
A long time ago I had a girl who had a crush on me. She followed me while i was walking out of school. I was in this long hall way by myself and I heard her footsteps get louder and louder. I looked behind me and I saw her getting mad, I smirk and continue walking at my same pace. I make it to the door and I hold it open for her while staring her down making sure she does no dumb shit.
She says " Well, at least I have <insert BB's name>." sighs and walks ahead of me.
I walk slow to "social distance" from her. 2 min later I see her BB boy walk up and kiss her.