This thread and video are my life man. The major coastal cities in Australia, pretty much all of Eastern Europe, it's all the same: on a scale of 1 to 10, the average women were a solid 2 points more beautiful for varying reasons, much of it due to diet & exercise. The simply put American women to shame. However, the Australian women I interacted with did have many of the same attitude problems American guys will be familiar with that comes with women being westernized.
Now, Eastern Europe on the other hand... it was amazing how well they treat their men. Completely apples and oranges in how refreshing it was. I can see why guys over over to Prague and Bucharest to get married.
I already know beforehand that Eastern Europe women take care way better of themselves than most American women do. That is crystal clear. Also some East European countries has way more women than men, so there's more competition too.
if you pay for Tinder change your location to Kiev - its fucking insane. American women dont understand that if you stay skinny and keep your hair long - 80% of (18-35yr old) girls would be fuckable. Kind of like if a guy eats decent, lifts 3x/week for 30 mins and wears clothes that fit, he is usually fuckable. Too much to ask I suppose.
I have been on this sub a couple of months and I wonder, how much % of subscribers are from the NA, because a lot of RP advice seems to be tailored for American guys(especially when were talking about marriage etc.).
I'm from eastern-europe'ish place (Baltic states), it's hard to tell if a lot of the stuff mentioned on the sub even applies to my country. I still am exceptionally bad with women tho(hence why I'm here), so I the main stuff like lifting, game and developing frame is only going to help.
For example in poor countries, a lot of college age women will look for rich betas to alleviate poverty. That's different from NA where most college girls are just looking for alphas.
Consider yourself lucky that you still have the option of getting results elsewhere. White worship is still a thing in many countries, but you won't find brown worship anywhere in the world.
Correct me if I'm wrong but I thought that, as you call it, brown worship is a thing in the US now with the whole "if you chose white over brown anywhere you're racist" thing?
Its government "multicultural" propaganda and projection, "White" traits are still valued hand over fist over "Brown" traits. The women also respond to this innate hierarchy between the races, where White women are the least likely to miscegenate with other races. However that is not to say they wouldn't slut around with other races, the above is specific to marriage and reproduction. Most White women likely had a "Brown" train ran on them before marriage.
Never been either but I know few people there and from what I've heard if your workplace or school has 2 people who want to get in but one is black and one's white (in this scenario white guy can have slightly better results/reccomendations) they'll take the black one so nobody can say they're racist
I’m from the US and this is true in a sense. Ivy League schools that have low acceptance rates is where this comes into play, but It’s not TECHNICALLY so nobody can say they’re racist. These schools have a quota to meet for each ethnicity, an example is Harvard where Asians actually have a lower chance of getting in than an American because so many Asians apply. It’s all about making sure they have enough of each race. Hispanic people have the highest chance of getting into Ivy League schools because statistically they do not apply to college as much as other races.
Well, if you live here (in Georgia - the country) apparently Ukraine is the market. Lots of short, bald Georgian guys hooking up with 7-8/10 Ukrainian girls. Don't know how they do it, but they do. As for the fat part, that's up to you to fix. It's under your control, unlike height and baldness.
Everytime I travel and see russian couples, it's always the same. A fucking supermodel with a perfect body, giant perky tits, and a gorgeous face with a 50 year old bald fat russian guy. They usually look tough as fuck, so I always assumed they were in the mob or something like that. Over time, i realized this couldn't explain all of them.
The Black Pill is that while a market exists, most men, even a majority of "successful" men are not going to have the resources or time to head off and hunt for higher quality women in EE with any regularity, especially in their 20s and early 30s.
I'm not sure where people get that idea. How does one "not have the resources" to live in a far cheaper country? Where do westerners get this idea -
"I can barely afford $1500/mo. in rent, but $500/mo.? No way! Can't afford that!"
"I can barely afford my $100/mo. cell phone bill, but $12/mo.? No way, too expensive!"
"I can barely afford my $120/mo. internet and TV bill! But $30/mo.? No way! that's too much!"
"I can barely afford my $100/mo. gas and electricity. But $25/mo.? No way! I'd go broke!"
"I can barely afford my $200/mo. in car insurance. But not having to pay it at all? No way!"
"I can barely afford my $500/mo. health insurance. But medical bills so low I don't even need insurance? Hell no! Way too expensive!"
"But I have to save up a whole $500 to fly out to eastern Europe!! It will take me years to save $500! At least until I'm 45 or 50!"
Confuses the hell out of me, really. You can rent a hotel room at the daily rate in EE for less than the price of an apartment in most of America. The average price for an apartment in the US $1234/mo. You can get a hotel room in Eastern Europe for easily $20/day - $600/mo. Like, really, WTF is this argument "oh, traveling to EE is too expensive!"? Just excuses, excuses.
My bank just offered me a personal banker / wealth manager and some kind of premium, high limit card because I make more than the enormous sum of.... (drum roll) ... $1200 a month ... their cut off for that kind of stuff. (Of course I make a lot more, actually). This is life on easy mode. I feel like I've discovered some kind of cheat code.
Most people are established in their careers and social circles within the West and are unwilling to move just for the prospects of finding a better class of women. A flight from the US to say Prague is going to run you a grand, plus hotel, plus the time off work etc. Like I said, not practical for most men. Possible sure if pussy is your main goal in life.
I've been in the US, except for the occasional blonde bimbo, US girls are mostly fat black or fat latinas. Or asian girls that somehow think they are some kind of japanese manga girl, but they are more like fat Malaysian moms. I'm not racist, there is a lot of gorgeous latina girls and beautiful black girl with huge bottoms where I live. Not in the US.
call me biased go ahead.... but i live north of the US border and you can see the difference the instant you cross that line, like it's weird. a year or two ago i went to pick up a shipment for work in Champlain, NY, literally 2 km in to the US and saw one of the most gruesomely obese human beings i seen in my entire life lmfao. pretty sure I caught a glimpse of her by the time I got home
It really was. So much so that I googled the obesity rates for our countries. I believe women here were like 21-25% while American women were around 40-49%
You do know the US is comprised of 50 states right? So unless you’ve traveled all over the country and mingled with its population how can you say what the “US girls” are? There are plenty of attractive women, black, white, Spanish, Asian...it just depends where u go.
Same can be said for tinder. After u filter through the uglies and trannies there are still potential 8s,9s, & 10s available
But with all that being said ..... American women <<< foreign women
lol either you had your eyes closed or you have bad taste in women.
" except for the occasional blonde bimbo, US girls are mostly fat black or fat latinas. "
How do you go to Miami and Vegas and still comment such a thing?
I'm gonna disagree with this guy's technique of swiping right on everyone. I know it's for the experiment, but in general I would say I only swipe right on about 1/3 of girls if that (California). So many are fat, or otherwise just not my taste.
Swiping right on everyone will just net you a bunch of undesirables that you'll then have to unmatch. It only takes a second to actually look and see if this is someone you'd actually want to hang out with.
It also messes up the algorithm. Tinder calculates how attractive your profile is. If you swipe right on everyone it assumes you are horribly unattractive and stops showing your profile to people.
They dropped ELO scores not too long ago, so it works differently than that now. IIRC they don't penalize you for that anymore other than running out of swipes.
How does it work now? And when did they drop it? I stopped using it cause when I was an autist i fucked up my ELO score, and tinder would always find a way to connect a new account to your old, either by phone number, or email, or fb account, or even Google account. If they re did it, then maybe I should try again...
Is it a fair test to use the same English name for both cases? Using an English name in Russia may be an unfair advantage because it signals that he's foreign...maybe using a similar-in-popularity Russian name would be more fair.
It's honestly so difficult that I try to apply TRP (as in the philosophy, not game) to my academics and male relationships and focus on that, rather than girls. Mostly what I mean in applying stoicism.
I'm only 20 and think girls are too big of a distraction for me while I'm in school.
I hold a lot of Christian values dear to me; that doesn't mesh well with the dating scene, but it helps me to be a better man to those around me.
its literally easier to meet women in any country outside the west. i've tindered on 4 continents. its night and day. any country that still has somewhat of old school values and hasn't been touched by the regressive left.
Same. Whenever I am traveling Tinder is a joy and I use it every day but when I get back home I stop using it after a few days. Maybe in countries where people are vacationing is easy but I've been to non touristic places and had great results as well.
Russian girls are horrendous and I speak as a Russian man.
They have a lot of tattoo's, are slutty (just like their American counterparts) but unlike them have the disadvantage of demanding a man pay for them for everything. They cannot be trusted.
Remember what happened during the World Cup even in small cities like Volgograd
Theres many YouTube vids on it but the short is that Russian girls of all ages were throwing themselves at foreigners as long as they didnt speak Russian. My friend even participated in an orgy with a pregnant Russian girl AMD fucked her without a condom bc, (in her words), "she cant get pregnant anyway".
Certain areas in the west have a HUGE immigration influence from beautiful women countries. I’m from Sydney Australia and I’m a big fan of the beautiful lovely ladies that are constantly immigrating to Australia... even if it’s only to study and learn English before returning.
Never been a better time to be a single guy in Sydney. And due to market forces western women are forced to compete with Russian, European, Latin, Asian women... its fucking beautiful
They're beautiful for sure. I was just there not long ago, but the dating market is just as bad there as it is in the US. In fact there's a bunch of articles about this fact with women bemoaning there are not being enough Chads to date.
They don't word it that way, but the message is clear: Sydney women ignore most guys and are only interested in the top 10% and there's never enough of them....but they won't for a second consider dating the other 90% and would rather bitch and moan about it while waiting for their turn to share an alpha.
well, that's one country i haven't been to yet. i do keep hearing positive things in this aspect as you mentioned though. glad to hear its better than the states. also, you guys are generally more open minded in sexual regard than america from what i understand. even hookers are legal (according to my friend that's in the navy and is currently in australia)
Most suburbs have at least one brothel servicing the needs of men... helps to keep marriages together not to mention keeping dodgy dudes needs met in a relatively safe way.
One of the most important social fabrics no one likes to talk about is the need for the oldest profession to be safely practiced. It’s a part of a healthy human society.
In saying that erotic massages are far more common, a lot of Asian girls do it as it’s easy to do taxfree and therefore working visa free.
I’ve never been to a brothel, but I’ve had a few happy ending massages with 18-22 year old models dressed in hentai clothes after my divorce... costs maybe 30% more than a normal massage
helps to keep marriages together not to mention keeping dodgy dudes needs met in a relatively safe way.
One of the most important social fabrics no one likes to talk about is the need for the oldest profession to be safely practiced. It’s a part of a healthy human society.
dude this is so on point. i've been saying this for years. back in the old days in europe when whorehouses were a common sight, it helped keep marriages and society together. i just had this conversation with a friend of mine. i travel quite a bit and going to countries like thailand or even mexico where prostitution is very common, you can even feel the general attitude of people is completely different than that of the places that have prostitution restricted. people are generally happier and women are much more leveled is what i've noticed.
It might seem open-minded, but as this Brazilian girl that I met once said about Americans, "they're really uptight and pretend like they aren't. Not like Brazilians"
Brazilians girls are THE WORST. They just want to go out and dance and make out. They hardly ever fuck it seems like. They just go to faggoty clubs and suck face with each other until the whole damn country gets herpes.
well, brazilians are very sexually open. in my experience they've been the easiest lays and there's no strings attached. sex is treated as a normal human function, not some special ordeal that they make it out to be in the west.
Yeah exactly. I've had the same experience, sex is treated the way it should be as a normal human function/desire. You dont even really need to have plausible deniability because I've had girls tell me they "want to share their pussy with me all night". It was great.
if you only want to get ass then pattaya in thailand is your place to be. bangkok is legit as well. pattaya is just hookerville straight up. you'll have fun at clubs though. bangkok is good for your every day thai chicks that want to fuck foreigners, they're really into white guys so if you're white and decent looking you got it made. my tinder game was actually poppin in bangkok more so than pattaya. pattaya is more fun though imo.
if you want to explore cool places in the country then go to phuket and the islands and also take a trip up north to chang mai and the surrounding regions. up north its also a lot cheaper than south (bangkok, pattaya) and the food is better imo.
in mexico, if you only want to get ass then tijuana is your place to be, by far.
jesus christ it's literally unbelievable. I just hopped on tinder for the first time in years here in Winston Salem NC. About 2% of the girls i see on here are as attractive as those he was swiping on.
Not only does the video show that the women in Eastern Europe are more attractive and traditional, they are far less shallow than American women. Guys, if you want a relationship, Eastern Europe or bust. America is done.
As a general rule, American women are ugly, fat, and useless compared to women anywhere else in the world; and to go along with their disgusting traits, they have extremely unrealistic standards. Men need to smarten up and get out of this dump, or just import women from other parts of the world. Let these garbage women stay single and alone until they learn.
"I got four matches, one of them had a dick"
This basically says everything about the flaming trash pile that is California.
It's important to separate Tinder from reality. In the US, Tinder is a cesspool of the worst of humanity at this point. Other dating apps have much better quality- Bumble, Hinge, etc. However in other countries dating apps are a newer concept and the hot women haven't left Tinder yet.
But the fact that there aren't very many hot women on tinder in the US doesn't mean there aren't any in general. Walk into any decent nightlife venue in New York, Miami, Austin, Denver, Washington DC, hell even LA, and you will find many beautiful women who are very receptive to top tier guys.
On the flipped side, if you are not a top tier guy, it doesn't matter where you go in the world, you're not going to have much success with women. Sure if you go to Thailand or Ukraine or Colombia you'll have white-worshiping gold diggers and whores that will sleep with you, but you won't get any more attention from high quality women than you would in the US. Likely much less, in fact.
If you are not having success with women in the US, don't whine about it and romanticize other places (which in reality are not much different). Instead, get off your ass and improve yourself. Also, for those whining about feminism, the reality is that the more feminist a country is, the more sexually open the women are. If you're a top tier guy, feminism is your best friend. And by top tier guy I don't mean a model, I mean someone who is in shape, well groomed, good job, confident, and sociable. That's all you need, and each one of those aspects is controllable by you. Stop whining and make it happen.
If you're a top tier guy, feminism is your best friend.
This is pure, uncut RP. Literally, seeing the world for what it is turning into and turning the tide in your favour.
There's a book that's sometimes recommended around here called "Antifragile", and from the description of what it's about (benefitting from disorder), I think TRP suits perfectly into its thesis. I'm gonna have to bump it up in the queue I have for reading, it sounds fascinating.
Walk into any decent nightlife venue in New York, Miami, Austin, Denver, Washington DC, hell even LA, and you will find many beautiful women who are very receptive to top tier guys.
On the flipped side, if you are not a top tier guy, it doesn't matter where you go in the world, you're not going to have much success with women.
As someone who lives in Eastern Europe, this is definitely completely delusional pro-America bullshit.
Not that you should not try to be a top tier guy in every way possible, but women are much more receptive to the full range of men out here (and I'm sure in other more traditional parts of the world). The delusional idea where the top 80% of women think they are entitled to the top 10% of guys is a very American one.
Where I live, a 6 looks for a 6, a 7 for a 7, and so on. Women here mostly have a good sense of their own value and are receptive to guys that are similar in SMV to them. Here, if you want to date a 7, you should make sure you're a 7. If you want to date a 10, you make sure you're a 10.
If you're a 6 in SMV, and you show up here where I live, you'll have your pick of 5-7's. If you're an 8, you'll have your pick of 7-9's. The rest of the world doesn't work like America.
In America, if you want to date a 5, you need to be an 8, if you want to date an 8, you need to be a 10, if you want to date a 1, you need to be at least a 6. It's total crap.
other places (which in reality are not much different).
Are you too Dunning-Krueger to know you're ignorant (i.e, an American who can't find any other countries on a map and never left the country) or just lying?
Stop whining and make it happen.
Speaking of whining, you sounds like you're just making lame fucking excusesfor 'Muricaby blaming men for "not being good enough" instead of admitting your women are total garbage.
Your post shows a low understanding of how attraction dynamics actually work. At the end of the day, men and women anywhere nearly always end up dating people who are in their range SMV-wise. That's just how the cards fall. There is no incentive for someone with a higher SMV to date someone with a lower SMV (man or woman), thus people tend to end up with similarly-valued mates. Note that this is different for casual sex. For short term stuff, the 80-20 rule very much applies, but not just in America. I guarantee the women in Eastern Europe are not going to be having casual sex with a 5.
The next thing to understand is that the make up of SMV can be vastly different across cultures. In America and other feminist countries, looks play a larger part in SMV than in conservative places like E. Europe where other qualities may be more important. But make no mistake, just because faces and muscles aren't as valued, doesn't mean women care less about overall SMV.
Finally, in feminist countries, while women may feel liberated enough to vocalize their preference for the highest quality men, it doesn't mean that women in conservative countries don't feel the same thing. Everyone, male or female, anywhere in the world, will always strive to achieve the highest SMV possible in their mate. However, as I said earlier, when the cards fall, most people end up with someone very close to their own SMV. If anything, the one thing that I will give you is that there is more pressure in conservative countries for a woman to find a husband, whereas in America many women are fine just never marrying. So in that way, it may be easier to find a woman in a conservative country. However, if that woman is just settling for you because of societal pressure, that doesn't seem worth it to me.
And please, I was not blaming men for not being good enough. I'm saying that if you work on being high quality yourself then you will not have to worry about where you are, you will get women anywhere.
At the end of the day, men and women anywhere nearly always end up dating people who are in their range SMV-wise.
Nope, most men in America consistently date and marry below their SMV. Grew up there, I can't name a single one of my friends from there with LTR's or married where the women isn't a lower SMV than the man, and substantially so. Two recent examples from my life -
My ex-wife's boyfriend just asked her to marry him; he's a 7-8 (fit, great job, decent looking, never married), she's a 4-5 (she got fat and was obviously already married - and the divorce was a result of her cheating - I was not as RP at the time and fell into the "beta by 1000 cuts" trap).
A good friend of mine moved to here from the US and was a lazy, anti-social, fat fuck. After a year of my LTR and I giving him shit over his weight (one incident involved her saying "no girl will ever love you because you are disgustingly fat" and him crying) - he amazingly goes from 150 kilos to 80 kilos, gets fit, and learns how to hold down a good job. His SMV went easily from a 2 up to 7. Then he moves back to America (on his dad's prompting, against our advice) and after 6 months of "Murica" settles down with a fat single mom (4/10). Now he's posting pictures of mowing the lawn at "their" house.
Ending up with women way below their SMV? A(AM)ALT - all American men are like that.
The next thing to understand is that the make up of SMV can be vastly different across cultures. In America and other feminist countries, looks play a larger part in SMV than in conservative places like E. Europe where other qualities may be more important. But make no mistake, just because faces and muscles aren't as valued, doesn't mean women care less about overall SMV.
I didn't say they didn't. I said that in the United States, women only show interest in men who are far higher than their SMV and totally ignore / dismiss men who are "in their league" - while in other countries, women show interest to men that are "in their league" and (of course) up.
Finally, in feminist countries, while women may feel liberated enough to vocalize their preference for the highest quality men, it doesn't mean that women in conservative countries don't feel the same thing. Everyone, male or female, anywhere in the world, will always strive to achieve the highest SMV possible in their mate. However, as I said earlier, when the cards fall, most people end up with someone very close to their own SMV. If anything, the one thing that I will give you is that there is more pressure in conservative countries for a woman to find a husband, whereas in America many women are fine just never marrying. So in that way, it may be easier to find a woman in a conservative country. However, if that woman is just settling for you because of societal pressure, that doesn't seem worth it to me.
This one is where your ignorance of non-American / traditional cultures really shines though. You really need to understand what I say here.
Women that don't live under feminist cultures have different values systems. They see the world completely differently. Without feminism, women actually want to marry ASAP to a good provider, it is biologically programmed into them. Monkey-branching in societies especially where divorce is not rewarded and there is no social safety net is a very high risk strategy, and women are highly risk adverse.
It's only feminism with it's "any man in the world should be lucky to have you because vagina!!!" and "if you fuck Chad and get dumped you can always divorce rape your ex to keep the money coming in!!!" that causes women to pursue the high risk strategy of monkey-branching.
Women in traditional societies know a lot of things feminist indoctrinated women don't, and they act very differently because they aren't as stupid as American women.
They know about the wall, they know it's coming.
They know men improve with age, while they get worse.
They know they have a limited worth, not unlimited.
They know they have a limited time to find a good man, not unlimited time to fuck around.
They know there is no social safety net to protect them, and they can't just steal their ex-husbands money in alimony, because the law doesn't allow it.
They know there are millions of women competing for the same number of men, and it's lottery odds that they will actually hold down a man with an SMV that is way above theirs.
Women here know that a key that opens all the locks is an amazing key, but the lock that opens for all keys is a shitty lock.
They know if a Chad knocks them up and dumps them for someone else, they become completely worthless to society and will probably never find a quality man to date them ever again.
In fact, the women in Eastern Europe who did get impregnated then dumped often end up looking to date western men, because only western men are beta enough to date gopnik Chad's leftovers.
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Who do you think 1/2 of the women on Ukrainian and Thai dating sites are? They are the minority of stupid ones who got pumped and dumped by Chad-shenko / Chad-abindong and know only a western man will overlook that and marry them up anyways. The other 1/2 are the ones that are too ugly for their countries but Americans (and Brits) see them as 10/10 just because they aren't fat.
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You don't realize how much feminism has warped women's behavior in the United States. I live in one of the oldest, most traditional, Christian societies in the world; and I can say confidently, the things you see American girls do disgust and revolt women in traditional countries. All women have similar biological imperatives: hypergamy, a fear of risk, the desire for children, a desire for safety, etc; but how they play out is totally different between a feminist and traditional culture. In the west, hypergamy always wins. In other places, hypergamy loses out against other imperatives.
A woman that can bag a solid 7/10 who will provide and protect for her is going to choose that in an instant over the nebulous, unsure possibility that she might one day meet a 10/10 "prince charming". (Very unlike the stupid American fat 5 that's always dreaming of a 10 who in reality will only fuck her but never settle down). A woman here is also less likely to dump a 7/10 she's established a life with, even for a 10/10, because she realizes high risk behavior like that is likely result in her having no man at all, while being older and possibly with a child, which is way worse than sticking with the 7/10.
You like feminism because it lets you fuck a lot of woman, sure, I get that. But it also means that if you ever want an LTR, you won't be able to find someone that isn't damaged goods. It's like a cocaine addiction, it feels good in the short term, but in the long term you're going to wonder how your life - and country - and culture - ended up so fucked and sick.
I'm saying that if you work on being high quality yourself then you will not have to worry about where you are, you will get women anywhere.
Sure, but it's all an odds game, even a 10/10 man isn't going to attract 100% of women. Starting with a handicap by living in the United States isn't a great plan unless you don't have any other choice - telling American men they should "accept their handicap" and "just work harder" instead of making everything easier by ditching the United States is generally bad advice.
Look, if you (or anyone) can't leave America for other reasons, I get it, everyone has a different situation. But telling men that it doesn't get better than America, and leaving won't matter, that's just a lie, and a damned dangerous one too.
Russia's a dump for economic and social reasons totally unrelated to TRP that result in the 3rd highest suicide rate in the world, high divorce rates, high drug use rates, high rates of child abuse and pedophilia, and all kinds of other social problems. More importantly, divorces in Russia are initiated by men while divorces in the US are initiated by women. That should tell you all you need to know about how incredibly different the countries are in terms of male-female relationships.
Anyways, Russia is not the only country in Eastern Europe, and I'm talking about my country - Georgia - which has none of the Russian problems listed above.
What's your point and why do you complain ? Go the wonderfull countries you speak of and stop being jealous because an American managed to bang good looking women while your swarm in pussy in estern europe!
Oh, it's not a complaint. It's that u/IntensePancakes is giving American men bad advice:
"If you think American women are shit, don't expect it better anywhere else, just keep wallowing in the American shit and learn to like it."
That's terrible advice - America is dating / sex / relationships / life on abusive nightmare mode. Why try to trick people into thinking they can't leave and have it better anywhere else? I feel bad for my American brothers, don't believe the lie that America is "the same as everywhere else" or "as good as it will ever get". It's better out here - and in lots of other places.
Also, I do live in Eastern Europe. I have a good life here and I love it. I just want to share it with other people who are suffering back in the flaming garbage dump of America. :D
To my understanding this is different but not necessarily better. In America & Western europe for example, in an LTR, you don't have at all to marry. Also estern europe and russian girls and traditional countries expect more often for men to pay/commit and they want more often to have a real alpha.
Many men that got themselve a estern europe girl got a gold digger or married a woman that only wanted the nationality and left them when they got it and so on.
It may work better if you really live in the country, but then you get to be used to the local standard of living and will not necessarily attract that many women if you are not on the alpha side...
Many men that got themselve a estern europe girl got a gold digger or married a woman that only wanted the nationality and left them when they got it and so on.
Of course there's always the possibility, but marriages of Americans to Eastern Europeans (if you look at the mail order bride stats), only end in divorce 20% of the time, whereas the normal average for America is 50% of the time.
you get to be used to the local standard of living
I mean, not necessarily. I get an American salary because I work remotely, but even if I worked a job here, I would get paid way above the average local due to a combination of experience, english skills, and education that most locals don't have.
Your case is you work in estern europe and married the woman. So you are at least a great provider because you make much more than most. Maybe you are also relatively alpha and so naturally your woman want to keep you. And the trad values may help. She may cheat but she will stay.
But immagine the contrary, you are un US and mary a european immigrant... Once she get the natioanality she can do whatever and if she is pretty & social, she will have many orbiters around her + apha willing to fuck her.
And then there the worst situation. You can't find a nice girl in US, kind of meaning your are likely a beta/bux or even omega and you try to use your money to get some girl from a poorer country but you are not living there, you just chat over internet or go a few weeks with an agency to help you find one girl. Basically you are the perfect beta fro a gold digger. This is where you take most of the risk that she just take the money without commiting or once she got it that she divorse rape you then marry another american now that she got her entry in the country.
Very interesting. The difference in looks between US women and Eastern European women in terms of Tinder is astounding. Anecdotally - I have been seeing women in the states get worse and worse over the years — the party culture, the meds they are on, the shit food they eat, and a culture that says they are “all beautiful” is a devastating combination.
I went from Indiana to Colorado. In Colorado, which gave of a comparatively crazy wealthy vibe, I almost thought I was going to get treated like a bot because I started swiping right on almost everyone in this college town I was in.
I’m going to have to say Colorado is one of the better places in the US for meeting girls. Most of them outdoor oriented, fit, come from stable backgrounds, and are generally friendlier than other parts of the US. Indiana gave you low standards. Same thing happened to me when I lived in Alaska, mind you it was 1 woman to 100 men outside of Anchorage.
Honestly I don't buy the "western women are all fat/ugly". It seems BEAUTIFUL western women these days priotize Instagram more than Tinder. IF you are really fucking hot you go on IG and basically try to have that as your 2ndary job. I know a few 10s and they are all on IG trying to become "influencer" they still have their office jobs or whatever too. I am close friends with a girl like that and literally all her friends are 10s and they do the same. You won't find these chicks on Tinder but maybe on VIP section of a club.
To be fair it is not just women. The men in eastern europe are way hotter too. A guy between 18-30 was way more likely to have a six pack than not from what I saw in Czechoslovakia. Though my sample was admittedly... skewed.
I don’t doubt it. Many western men are cucked and feminized at an alarming rate. I would assume Eastern European men are more masculine than. Last western men which (surprise) women are attracted to.
There is good and bad. I do think the machismo culture of eastern europe is kind of shitty. If you smile at a guy in Russia it's not unheard of for him to confront you physically over it.
"What's funny? What's so funny?" Etc.
Western society is good at breeding high trust/low fraud, respect in institutions, and a negative stigma against cheating (as in cheating someone, not sexual cheating). It's a big part of why America is more prosperous than a lot of machismo/honor cultures (which tend to be low trust/high fraud and view cheating as morally ambiguous).
That's why if you've met Russian dudes who come to the US/Canada, you'll notice they are the biggest scammers looking for ways to cheat the system in EVERYTHING. The locals dont understand and view them as "horrible, terrible people" Haha.
Nothing wrong with cheating the system imo. I'd take a less prosperous honor culture over a more prosperous cuckold culture.
You go to a poor country where women cant afford to be whores and they want a guy with money. Not surprising, different cups shape water in different ways.
Shit will hit the fan and men will learn to be men again. We'll bounce back. We always do.
Men bust their balls for generations to produce prosperity, but prosperity produces entitlement and laziness. Entitlement and laziness produces... Well, we'll find out soon.
On the bright side, it's easy to be an exceptional man when all the men and women around you are degenerates.
I can relate. I do Tinder here and there in California (Bay Area) with hardly any luck. I tried Tinder when I was actually in St. Petersburg and the results were amazing. Russian girls in general are more attractive than in the West because they take care of their bodies and looks. Girls in the west don’t give AF and more and more are becoming overweight and still demand a Chad.
Honestly it isn't only Russia. I noticed while traveling in different countries, it seems more attractive people are on Tinder but in North America(US/Canada) it is the opposite. Like the city I live in Canada is a mix of all races so you can find all types of beautiful women but I have RARELY seen any 10s on Tinder, ya you get the odd one here and there but not as much as when I am in other countries.
they also consider wearing yoga pants and smoking weed as a workout. tinder in most of the states that i've been in is horrendous, i don't even turn it on. i find in person approaches to be the best and good looking girls respond usually in a positive way. also, most good looking women are not on tinder, only the batshit crazy ones as well as the ones looking for providers.
Yeah, I gotta get out there more. My day to day is basically work and the gym, and my closest friends are basically married and only go to one dive bar.
i've been doing shit on my own for a few years now. most of my friends are good people, but they love staying in the bubble. so i do a lot of shit solo. meet good people on the way too.
Its staggering, the number of overweight, unattractive "like me for me" American women who cant fit into anything size 14 or below, who have to shop at special "feel good about being fat" stores to get clothing...and STILL think they deserve prince fucking charming by way of 50 shades of stupid...
One of the best things about being East of the Carpathians (especially outside of the EU) is that American women avoid it like the plague. They are all up in South America and its annoying as fuck.
Eastern Europe (not Central which most people think as "East") outside of the airport zones is one of the last liveable anti-American-woman havens on the planet. Recently I spent the last three years jumping between Eastern Europe around the Carpathians, California and Colombia. I compared the positive and negatives and one thing that began to really stand out was the absence of American women in the places that I like to be in Eastern Europe. Places that I really like to be that weren't shit holes like an undeveloped dusty jungle situation (just to get some damn distance from those Americans). Real places with trains, cafes, Internet, education, etc.
So one day in Colombia I was at a rooftop club sitting hip-to-hip with my runway model girlfriend when a fat American woman came over to smash her cooch against my leg pinning it to the bench while she spoke with a (rude) French woman. She was there for a while ignoring my verbal and hand protests. After thirty seconds of not being able to move my leg a millimeter and ignoring my obvious protests I just picked her leg up and rotated it to the other side. She then slapped me, I grabbed her hand when she went to slap twice and I had a bazillion hands on me all at once. When the immediate issue was over I was being lectured by that cool kid kind of Latino beta that knows best on all moral issues. At this point I'd just definitely fucking had it. Can I get some fucking peace or what? How far do I have to go to be left alone?
I bring it up because in my experience there is no reprieve from American women when they are present in any concentration. They are just terrible. Imagine I went to another continent and am in a place with my local girlfriend, 75 other people, only a few of which are American women and they force the issue so crudely. In America they live their reality and if you don't know better it seems normal, acceptable or at least something that must be tolerated. When they leave that place and they'll desperately and clumsily recreate the kinds of conditions that they are accustomed to. They are just terrible; waves after endless waves of their shit and then there is always a new one to offer more shit.
Could not agree more. I can vouch that, especially in groups of any size, American women are simply obnoxious. They really believe, down deep, that we are privileged simply to be in their presence. Even fat, slovenly girls think they're gracing us and we should feel good simply being allowed to touch or speak to them.
My frame just isn't tight enough to endure women acting like the worst kind of men while they enjoy full cover and protection. I would simply punch the shit out of a guy who did an equivalent thing to me (without the weird passive-aggressive sexualized part).
So my girlfriend was then informing me that she doesn't like the physical stuff something or other. I asked her if she would need to be all proper-like if a guy did that to her. She looked at me like fuck no that is crazy. The problem is that the local women don't act like that at all but the appeasing system down there has bought into giving cover to women who do in order to maintain the peace . So American women can run amok.
I'm in a place where none of that is in play but I can't spend 99.9% of my life in EE like my American friend. So at some point I'll be around these women again and I need to keep my cool. By about the third time that bizarre female shit happens to me while I'm not getting any sex then I lose my cool.
Lol you’re blue pilled white mayo beta faggot who failed at life so you resort to being a sexpat. I see you in real life and youd prob look and talk like a little inferior white troglodyte. Goddamn you are stupid.
Problem with Eastern European chicks is especially slavs/russians. They are super fucking high demand from what i've seen. I had many guys in my family marry/date Russians/Ukrainians. They are all super hot but psychotic. The crazy hot stereotype is truly common in Eastern Europeans. Not saying they are all like that but don't get a russian girl who wants to be with a foreigner for more freedom or thinks they can just control u.
Oh man thank god u mentioned instagram... Ppl think western girls love ig. Eastern europe girls will drive you crazy with instagram. Asian girls also have this issue, they take about 30 pcitures before posting 1 on ig. But i love asian women so i got use to that part.
I currently date a slavic girl, been 5 months and shes been absolutely great. She hasn’t been controlling but i became her closest friend for many months before we dated
Ya I hope things work out for you but it depends if she grew up in Russia/Ukraine. Also the family members I had who were involved with slavic girls had a great start as well. So it wasn't that they were crazy right away. I think it normally happened right away or after 1 year when they decided to get married/kids make serious decisions.
She’s been good, we both don’t want kids, she knows that I never want to get married and she is okay with this too, she thinks decently logivally and she sees my standpoint on it and says if she was me she’d think the same. She wants to keep life simple, and i appreciate that. Makes shit better for me too as I have aspergers and over complicating shit isnt good for me
I’ll take that back, it was just a joke. Russian girls in general are gorgeous and in good shape, easy to talk to, approachable, and overall better than their western counterparts. I was a volunteer at the World Cup so I had a chance to interact with a lot of people. Met lots of college-aged girls who were interested in learning about me and how life was in the states and I was interested to learn more about them. I came back to Russia in the winter time and it was just like OP showed. I used Tinder and got lots of matches (I’m a decent looking guy in good shape) there wasn’t enough time for me to meet all these gorgeous ladies but I will definitely be going back.
Maybe y’all are just ugly lol. Seriously. live in the states (Ga) and tinder has plenty of attractive females. Granted you have to filter through the fat & ugly but I honestly match with 8s (black, Latina, white) weekly if I’m using the app daily. I come across 9-10s often as well but they’re typically only reachable via another social media platform they’re promoting.
I’m black and don’t have trouble pulling any race. In real life & tinder lol
In georgia too. I have no problem with decent looking women of all races on Tinder. The water buffalo these people are talking about seem to be few and far between compared to attractive girls. Maybe my ELO is high.?
Hey OP @uglynihilist, your looks are fine, your photos contrary to what you may think are not decent and I can explain why.
Your photos a culturally cheesy and tacky and I can understand why you struggle with western women... however that is easily fixed. Honestly if you wanted to chat in private I can happily explain where you’re going wrong... nothing you’re doing is hard to fix
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bsutansalt 6y ago
This thread and video are my life man. The major coastal cities in Australia, pretty much all of Eastern Europe, it's all the same: on a scale of 1 to 10, the average women were a solid 2 points more beautiful for varying reasons, much of it due to diet & exercise. The simply put American women to shame. However, the Australian women I interacted with did have many of the same attitude problems American guys will be familiar with that comes with women being westernized.
Now, Eastern Europe on the other hand... it was amazing how well they treat their men. Completely apples and oranges in how refreshing it was. I can see why guys over over to Prague and Bucharest to get married.
DarkMountain666 6y ago
I already know beforehand that Eastern Europe women take care way better of themselves than most American women do. That is crystal clear. Also some East European countries has way more women than men, so there's more competition too.
SeaAffect 6y ago
color me the least surprised person in history
swampbastard69 6y ago
if you pay for Tinder change your location to Kiev - its fucking insane. American women dont understand that if you stay skinny and keep your hair long - 80% of (18-35yr old) girls would be fuckable. Kind of like if a guy eats decent, lifts 3x/week for 30 mins and wears clothes that fit, he is usually fuckable. Too much to ask I suppose.
PsychedelicDentist 6y ago
This is pure Russian propaganda
THOT_Analytica 6y ago
Holy fuck those american girls were barely average. Disgusting.
napsterpepper 6y ago
Even Spain is easier then North American. Here ugly 6s think of themselves as entitled 10s
Bing_Bang_Bam 6y ago
What do you expect when even the fat ones have been on a pedestal since birth.
mikrodizels 6y ago
I have been on this sub a couple of months and I wonder, how much % of subscribers are from the NA, because a lot of RP advice seems to be tailored for American guys(especially when were talking about marriage etc.).
I'm from eastern-europe'ish place (Baltic states), it's hard to tell if a lot of the stuff mentioned on the sub even applies to my country. I still am exceptionally bad with women tho(hence why I'm here), so I the main stuff like lifting, game and developing frame is only going to help.
hearse223 6y ago
Most of the anti-marriage rhetoric is aimed at Americans.
The pick-up and social dynamics are universal.
majani 6y ago
Game is very location specific, but female nature is universal.
mikrodizels 6y ago
How is gaming NA women different from gaming women in other countries tho, given that the nature is universal?
majani 6y ago
For example in poor countries, a lot of college age women will look for rich betas to alleviate poverty. That's different from NA where most college girls are just looking for alphas.
ZeparsWill 6y ago
Depressing sign of the times
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Consider yourself lucky that you still have the option of getting results elsewhere. White worship is still a thing in many countries, but you won't find brown worship anywhere in the world.
I'm talking inherent value, not built up SMV.
ReadySetGonads 6y ago
Idk man, I'm Latin and some white girls fuck with me heavy
Reniboy 6y ago
I dunno about Asian chicks or brown dudes but I know for a fact girls in Ukraine and Lithuania love black dudes.
ddelicia 6y ago
can confirm, smashed my fair share of ukrainians and russian girls.
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TheFowo 6y ago
Correct me if I'm wrong but I thought that, as you call it, brown worship is a thing in the US now with the whole "if you chose white over brown anywhere you're racist" thing?
ghosts_of_me 6y ago
We're talking about a small minority of retards here.
alexzang 6y ago
Fuck my love of vanilla ice cream instead of chocolate is racist now. Damn America /s
Yakatonker 6y ago
Its government "multicultural" propaganda and projection, "White" traits are still valued hand over fist over "Brown" traits. The women also respond to this innate hierarchy between the races, where White women are the least likely to miscegenate with other races. However that is not to say they wouldn't slut around with other races, the above is specific to marriage and reproduction. Most White women likely had a "Brown" train ran on them before marriage.
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[deleted] 6y ago
Is it? I haven't been to the US yet, maybe I should stop by. Looks like the SJWs have some utility after all.
TheFowo 6y ago
Never been either but I know few people there and from what I've heard if your workplace or school has 2 people who want to get in but one is black and one's white (in this scenario white guy can have slightly better results/reccomendations) they'll take the black one so nobody can say they're racist
KusaiSakana 6y ago
I’m from the US and this is true in a sense. Ivy League schools that have low acceptance rates is where this comes into play, but It’s not TECHNICALLY so nobody can say they’re racist. These schools have a quota to meet for each ethnicity, an example is Harvard where Asians actually have a lower chance of getting in than an American because so many Asians apply. It’s all about making sure they have enough of each race. Hispanic people have the highest chance of getting into Ivy League schools because statistically they do not apply to college as much as other races.
ovrload 6y ago
This is true. I’m only a 5’6 white guy and if it wasn’t for asian girls I’ll be still a virgin
bitchpleasebp 6y ago
lol fr asians love white boys
Dakstradamus 6y ago
Idk. If there is one demographic that never gives me the time of day, its Asian chicks.
Idk if they have to be extremely comfortable with you first but IOIs from Asians are thing of myth for me.
6'2 white boy here. Thought id be in like flint
xdppthrowaway9003x 5y ago
You believed the myths. The whole "asian girls love white guys" thing is just the white male hampster jacking itself off.
escapethesolarsystem 6y ago
The upside is, it goes to show that blackpill is bullshit, there's always a market for what you have, you just have to look in the right places.
BumblingBeta 6y ago
Not really. If you're a short fat bald dude, where is the market for you?
escapethesolarsystem 6y ago
Well, if you live here (in Georgia - the country) apparently Ukraine is the market. Lots of short, bald Georgian guys hooking up with 7-8/10 Ukrainian girls. Don't know how they do it, but they do. As for the fat part, that's up to you to fix. It's under your control, unlike height and baldness.
Throwawaysteve123456 6y ago
Everytime I travel and see russian couples, it's always the same. A fucking supermodel with a perfect body, giant perky tits, and a gorgeous face with a 50 year old bald fat russian guy. They usually look tough as fuck, so I always assumed they were in the mob or something like that. Over time, i realized this couldn't explain all of them.
KazarakOfKar 6y ago
The Black Pill is that while a market exists, most men, even a majority of "successful" men are not going to have the resources or time to head off and hunt for higher quality women in EE with any regularity, especially in their 20s and early 30s.
escapethesolarsystem 6y ago
I'm not sure where people get that idea. How does one "not have the resources" to live in a far cheaper country? Where do westerners get this idea -
"I can barely afford $1500/mo. in rent, but $500/mo.? No way! Can't afford that!"
"I can barely afford my $100/mo. cell phone bill, but $12/mo.? No way, too expensive!"
"I can barely afford my $120/mo. internet and TV bill! But $30/mo.? No way! that's too much!"
"I can barely afford my $100/mo. gas and electricity. But $25/mo.? No way! I'd go broke!"
"I can barely afford my $200/mo. in car insurance. But not having to pay it at all? No way!"
"I can barely afford my $500/mo. health insurance. But medical bills so low I don't even need insurance? Hell no! Way too expensive!"
"But I have to save up a whole $500 to fly out to eastern Europe!! It will take me years to save $500! At least until I'm 45 or 50!"
Confuses the hell out of me, really. You can rent a hotel room at the daily rate in EE for less than the price of an apartment in most of America. The average price for an apartment in the US $1234/mo. You can get a hotel room in Eastern Europe for easily $20/day - $600/mo. Like, really, WTF is this argument "oh, traveling to EE is too expensive!"? Just excuses, excuses.
My bank just offered me a personal banker / wealth manager and some kind of premium, high limit card because I make more than the enormous sum of.... (drum roll) ... $1200 a month ... their cut off for that kind of stuff. (Of course I make a lot more, actually). This is life on easy mode. I feel like I've discovered some kind of cheat code.
KazarakOfKar 6y ago
Most people are established in their careers and social circles within the West and are unwilling to move just for the prospects of finding a better class of women. A flight from the US to say Prague is going to run you a grand, plus hotel, plus the time off work etc. Like I said, not practical for most men. Possible sure if pussy is your main goal in life.
throwlaca 6y ago
I've been in the US, except for the occasional blonde bimbo, US girls are mostly fat black or fat latinas. Or asian girls that somehow think they are some kind of japanese manga girl, but they are more like fat Malaysian moms. I'm not racist, there is a lot of gorgeous latina girls and beautiful black girl with huge bottoms where I live. Not in the US.
I feel bad for the guys there.
russian_nigger 6y ago
they're here too, just not on tinder
SalporinRP 6y ago
Such a ludicrous exaggeration. Where did you visit in the US? South Central LA?
fregor 6y ago
How do you skip over fat white women? They're literally everywhere in the US.
Pyropiro 6y ago
Travel more. The only winning move is not to play their game.
Chaddeus_Rex 6y ago
If they're thick and not too fat, I smash. Who cares, pussy is pussy. And you get valuable experience and options
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shea_the_great 6y ago
call me biased go ahead.... but i live north of the US border and you can see the difference the instant you cross that line, like it's weird. a year or two ago i went to pick up a shipment for work in Champlain, NY, literally 2 km in to the US and saw one of the most gruesomely obese human beings i seen in my entire life lmfao. pretty sure I caught a glimpse of her by the time I got home
shenanigans38 6y ago
Another Canadian checking in here. My god it’s nuts down south. Nowhere near as many obese chicks up here.
billykangaroo 6y ago
lol Is the difference really that dramatic?
shenanigans38 6y ago
It really was. So much so that I googled the obesity rates for our countries. I believe women here were like 21-25% while American women were around 40-49%
blacktao 6y ago
You do know the US is comprised of 50 states right? So unless you’ve traveled all over the country and mingled with its population how can you say what the “US girls” are? There are plenty of attractive women, black, white, Spanish, Asian...it just depends where u go.
Same can be said for tinder. After u filter through the uglies and trannies there are still potential 8s,9s, & 10s available
But with all that being said ..... American women <<< foreign women
throwlaca 6y ago
Been to miami, vegas, Several west coast cities (SF, LA, pacifica, etc.) Several north cities aswell, etc.
blacktao 6y ago
lol either you had your eyes closed or you have bad taste in women.
" except for the occasional blonde bimbo, US girls are mostly fat black or fat latinas. "
How do you go to Miami and Vegas and still comment such a thing?
throwlaca 6y ago
Specially in Vegas.
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Miami had some nices girls, mostly 7, occasionally an 8.
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Vegas was all 4 and 5s...and suddenly a 10.
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Compare it with Vancouver. The moment I went walking there, suddenly saw mostly 8 and 9s.
EliteAlmondMilk 6y ago
I'm gonna disagree with this guy's technique of swiping right on everyone. I know it's for the experiment, but in general I would say I only swipe right on about 1/3 of girls if that (California). So many are fat, or otherwise just not my taste.
Swiping right on everyone will just net you a bunch of undesirables that you'll then have to unmatch. It only takes a second to actually look and see if this is someone you'd actually want to hang out with.
RevolutionaryPea7 6y ago
When I used tinder I only swiped right on about 10%. Still only got 6-7s though.
soyelsimba 6y ago
That further proves the point hes trying to make, where undiserable western women dont even swipe right
MirrorThaoss 6y ago
Every guy thay swipes right on everyone gives too many matches and/or attention to women and unbalances the SMP even more into women's advantage.
The more guy lowering their standards, the more girls being more picky than they should be.
Sh0stakovich 6y ago
It also messes up the algorithm. Tinder calculates how attractive your profile is. If you swipe right on everyone it assumes you are horribly unattractive and stops showing your profile to people.
Greaterbird 6y ago
They dropped ELO scores not too long ago, so it works differently than that now. IIRC they don't penalize you for that anymore other than running out of swipes.
TheEgyptianConqueror 6y ago
How does it work now? And when did they drop it? I stopped using it cause when I was an autist i fucked up my ELO score, and tinder would always find a way to connect a new account to your old, either by phone number, or email, or fb account, or even Google account. If they re did it, then maybe I should try again...
blottingbottle 6y ago
Is it a fair test to use the same English name for both cases? Using an English name in Russia may be an unfair advantage because it signals that he's foreign...maybe using a similar-in-popularity Russian name would be more fair.
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The dating culture in the west is going downhill fast
stoicbotanist 6y ago
It's honestly so difficult that I try to apply TRP (as in the philosophy, not game) to my academics and male relationships and focus on that, rather than girls. Mostly what I mean in applying stoicism.
I'm only 20 and think girls are too big of a distraction for me while I'm in school.
I hold a lot of Christian values dear to me; that doesn't mesh well with the dating scene, but it helps me to be a better man to those around me.
russian_nigger 6y ago
its literally easier to meet women in any country outside the west. i've tindered on 4 continents. its night and day. any country that still has somewhat of old school values and hasn't been touched by the regressive left.
Gravy_Vampire 6y ago
Do you understand how "old school" and "regressive" mean pretty close to the same thing?
characterulio 6y ago
Same. Whenever I am traveling Tinder is a joy and I use it every day but when I get back home I stop using it after a few days. Maybe in countries where people are vacationing is easy but I've been to non touristic places and had great results as well.
Eugenius88 6y ago
Thank you u/russian_nigger for the insightful info.
Brodin69 6y ago
that's one of the best names I've ever seen. upvote for him
Chaddeus_Rex 6y ago
Russian girls are horrendous and I speak as a Russian man.
They have a lot of tattoo's, are slutty (just like their American counterparts) but unlike them have the disadvantage of demanding a man pay for them for everything. They cannot be trusted.
Remember what happened during the World Cup even in small cities like Volgograd
russian_nigger 6y ago
yeah bro, i'm russian too. i haven't heard what happened in volgograd, what's the story?
Chaddeus_Rex 6y ago
Theres many YouTube vids on it but the short is that Russian girls of all ages were throwing themselves at foreigners as long as they didnt speak Russian. My friend even participated in an orgy with a pregnant Russian girl AMD fucked her without a condom bc, (in her words), "she cant get pregnant anyway".
Fucking whores
russian_nigger 6y ago
sounds like a party. sign me up lol
BumblingBeta 6y ago
how is it easier to meet women outside the west? like where do they hang out that makes it easier to meet them?
russian_nigger 6y ago
i meant on tinder. you get more matches and they're easier to talk to and don't act like idiots for the most part
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Certain areas in the west have a HUGE immigration influence from beautiful women countries. I’m from Sydney Australia and I’m a big fan of the beautiful lovely ladies that are constantly immigrating to Australia... even if it’s only to study and learn English before returning.
Never been a better time to be a single guy in Sydney. And due to market forces western women are forced to compete with Russian, European, Latin, Asian women... its fucking beautiful
bsutansalt 6y ago
They're beautiful for sure. I was just there not long ago, but the dating market is just as bad there as it is in the US. In fact there's a bunch of articles about this fact with women bemoaning there are not being enough Chads to date.
They don't word it that way, but the message is clear: Sydney women ignore most guys and are only interested in the top 10% and there's never enough of them....but they won't for a second consider dating the other 90% and would rather bitch and moan about it while waiting for their turn to share an alpha.
shitposterkatakuri 6y ago
What the fuck? Alright I’ll be right over ;)
russian_nigger 6y ago
well, that's one country i haven't been to yet. i do keep hearing positive things in this aspect as you mentioned though. glad to hear its better than the states. also, you guys are generally more open minded in sexual regard than america from what i understand. even hookers are legal (according to my friend that's in the navy and is currently in australia)
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Most suburbs have at least one brothel servicing the needs of men... helps to keep marriages together not to mention keeping dodgy dudes needs met in a relatively safe way.
One of the most important social fabrics no one likes to talk about is the need for the oldest profession to be safely practiced. It’s a part of a healthy human society.
In saying that erotic massages are far more common, a lot of Asian girls do it as it’s easy to do taxfree and therefore working visa free.
I’ve never been to a brothel, but I’ve had a few happy ending massages with 18-22 year old models dressed in hentai clothes after my divorce... costs maybe 30% more than a normal massage
russian_nigger 6y ago
dude this is so on point. i've been saying this for years. back in the old days in europe when whorehouses were a common sight, it helped keep marriages and society together. i just had this conversation with a friend of mine. i travel quite a bit and going to countries like thailand or even mexico where prostitution is very common, you can even feel the general attitude of people is completely different than that of the places that have prostitution restricted. people are generally happier and women are much more leveled is what i've noticed.
Chaddeus_Rex 6y ago
blame American puritan society.
It might seem open-minded, but as this Brazilian girl that I met once said about Americans, "they're really uptight and pretend like they aren't. Not like Brazilians"
Imperator_Red 5y ago
Brazilians girls are THE WORST. They just want to go out and dance and make out. They hardly ever fuck it seems like. They just go to faggoty clubs and suck face with each other until the whole damn country gets herpes.
Chaddeus_Rex 5y ago
bro I smash Brazilian girls easy.
I think you're doing something wrong.
They are SUPER easy
russian_nigger 6y ago
well, brazilians are very sexually open. in my experience they've been the easiest lays and there's no strings attached. sex is treated as a normal human function, not some special ordeal that they make it out to be in the west.
Chaddeus_Rex 6y ago
Yeah exactly. I've had the same experience, sex is treated the way it should be as a normal human function/desire. You dont even really need to have plausible deniability because I've had girls tell me they "want to share their pussy with me all night". It was great.
thechopps 6y ago
Well I’m going to Mexico and Thailand this summer
russian_nigger 6y ago
you want to go to thailand in the winter, where you won't die from the heat and humidity. its still hot in the winter but at least its bearable
thechopps 6y ago
Well Mexico in the summer and Thailand in winter lol. Any advice on where to go in either country?
russian_nigger 6y ago
if you only want to get ass then pattaya in thailand is your place to be. bangkok is legit as well. pattaya is just hookerville straight up. you'll have fun at clubs though. bangkok is good for your every day thai chicks that want to fuck foreigners, they're really into white guys so if you're white and decent looking you got it made. my tinder game was actually poppin in bangkok more so than pattaya. pattaya is more fun though imo.
if you want to explore cool places in the country then go to phuket and the islands and also take a trip up north to chang mai and the surrounding regions. up north its also a lot cheaper than south (bangkok, pattaya) and the food is better imo.
in mexico, if you only want to get ass then tijuana is your place to be, by far.
thechopps 6y ago
Tijuana it is!!! Please tell me they’re at least hb7+
baddogkelervra1 6y ago
Good lord those Russian women are absolutely gorgeous. Really just shows how shit feminism has been to women in this country.
Throwawaysteve123456 6y ago
It's true. If you travel alot, you'll find it generally much easier to get laid with other women from other cultures. The west is as bad as it gets.
TRP_Introspection 6y ago
jesus christ it's literally unbelievable. I just hopped on tinder for the first time in years here in Winston Salem NC. About 2% of the girls i see on here are as attractive as those he was swiping on.
FiteMeImAMan 6y ago
Yep. Same down here in SC. Only places where Tinder is doable here is Charleston and (kinda) Columbia and Greenville. Everywhere else is utter trash.
BFirebird101 6y ago
Can confirm. Tinder in Thailand & Bali is out of this world if you’re American
Hjalmbere 6y ago
An average Western guy will do better in Russia etc because his relative SMV is higher. It’s that simple.
punkrockfishboy 6y ago
Not only does the video show that the women in Eastern Europe are more attractive and traditional, they are far less shallow than American women. Guys, if you want a relationship, Eastern Europe or bust. America is done.
escapethesolarsystem 6y ago
As a general rule, American women are ugly, fat, and useless compared to women anywhere else in the world; and to go along with their disgusting traits, they have extremely unrealistic standards. Men need to smarten up and get out of this dump, or just import women from other parts of the world. Let these garbage women stay single and alone until they learn.
This basically says everything about the flaming trash pile that is California.
BenShapiroEPIC 6y ago
Not a subscriber here but you guys are absolutely right.
IntensePancakes 6y ago
It's important to separate Tinder from reality. In the US, Tinder is a cesspool of the worst of humanity at this point. Other dating apps have much better quality- Bumble, Hinge, etc. However in other countries dating apps are a newer concept and the hot women haven't left Tinder yet.
But the fact that there aren't very many hot women on tinder in the US doesn't mean there aren't any in general. Walk into any decent nightlife venue in New York, Miami, Austin, Denver, Washington DC, hell even LA, and you will find many beautiful women who are very receptive to top tier guys.
On the flipped side, if you are not a top tier guy, it doesn't matter where you go in the world, you're not going to have much success with women. Sure if you go to Thailand or Ukraine or Colombia you'll have white-worshiping gold diggers and whores that will sleep with you, but you won't get any more attention from high quality women than you would in the US. Likely much less, in fact.
If you are not having success with women in the US, don't whine about it and romanticize other places (which in reality are not much different). Instead, get off your ass and improve yourself. Also, for those whining about feminism, the reality is that the more feminist a country is, the more sexually open the women are. If you're a top tier guy, feminism is your best friend. And by top tier guy I don't mean a model, I mean someone who is in shape, well groomed, good job, confident, and sociable. That's all you need, and each one of those aspects is controllable by you. Stop whining and make it happen.
Chaddeus_Rex 6y ago
False. an average guy does much better outside of the US/Canada. I speak from experience.
Are American girls any different really?
South America has some of the most sexually open women, but none of them identify as feminist and are far more likely to treat their man right.
Your post is full of falsehoods, I don't know where you got this shit.
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This is pure, uncut RP. Literally, seeing the world for what it is turning into and turning the tide in your favour.
There's a book that's sometimes recommended around here called "Antifragile", and from the description of what it's about (benefitting from disorder), I think TRP suits perfectly into its thesis. I'm gonna have to bump it up in the queue I have for reading, it sounds fascinating.
adr007 6y ago
The book is a good read. Recommend you get to it asap.
celincelin 6y ago
American women are ass ugly compared to almost anything else on this planet.
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escapethesolarsystem 6y ago
As someone who lives in Eastern Europe, this is definitely completely delusional pro-America bullshit.
Not that you should not try to be a top tier guy in every way possible, but women are much more receptive to the full range of men out here (and I'm sure in other more traditional parts of the world). The delusional idea where the top 80% of women think they are entitled to the top 10% of guys is a very American one.
Where I live, a 6 looks for a 6, a 7 for a 7, and so on. Women here mostly have a good sense of their own value and are receptive to guys that are similar in SMV to them. Here, if you want to date a 7, you should make sure you're a 7. If you want to date a 10, you make sure you're a 10.
If you're a 6 in SMV, and you show up here where I live, you'll have your pick of 5-7's. If you're an 8, you'll have your pick of 7-9's. The rest of the world doesn't work like America.
In America, if you want to date a 5, you need to be an 8, if you want to date an 8, you need to be a 10, if you want to date a 1, you need to be at least a 6. It's total crap.
Are you too Dunning-Krueger to know you're ignorant (i.e, an American who can't find any other countries on a map and never left the country) or just lying?
Speaking of whining, you sounds like you're just making lame fucking excuses for 'Murica by blaming men for "not being good enough" instead of admitting your women are total garbage.
Stop making excuses for American's problems.
You sound like a blue-pill male feminist.
IntensePancakes 6y ago
Your post shows a low understanding of how attraction dynamics actually work. At the end of the day, men and women anywhere nearly always end up dating people who are in their range SMV-wise. That's just how the cards fall. There is no incentive for someone with a higher SMV to date someone with a lower SMV (man or woman), thus people tend to end up with similarly-valued mates. Note that this is different for casual sex. For short term stuff, the 80-20 rule very much applies, but not just in America. I guarantee the women in Eastern Europe are not going to be having casual sex with a 5.
The next thing to understand is that the make up of SMV can be vastly different across cultures. In America and other feminist countries, looks play a larger part in SMV than in conservative places like E. Europe where other qualities may be more important. But make no mistake, just because faces and muscles aren't as valued, doesn't mean women care less about overall SMV.
Finally, in feminist countries, while women may feel liberated enough to vocalize their preference for the highest quality men, it doesn't mean that women in conservative countries don't feel the same thing. Everyone, male or female, anywhere in the world, will always strive to achieve the highest SMV possible in their mate. However, as I said earlier, when the cards fall, most people end up with someone very close to their own SMV. If anything, the one thing that I will give you is that there is more pressure in conservative countries for a woman to find a husband, whereas in America many women are fine just never marrying. So in that way, it may be easier to find a woman in a conservative country. However, if that woman is just settling for you because of societal pressure, that doesn't seem worth it to me.
And please, I was not blaming men for not being good enough. I'm saying that if you work on being high quality yourself then you will not have to worry about where you are, you will get women anywhere.
Chaddeus_Rex 6y ago
And yet that's what men do.
Women date up and across, men date down.
That's one of the tenents of RP.
escapethesolarsystem 6y ago
Nope, most men in America consistently date and marry below their SMV. Grew up there, I can't name a single one of my friends from there with LTR's or married where the women isn't a lower SMV than the man, and substantially so. Two recent examples from my life -
Ending up with women way below their SMV? A(AM)ALT - all American men are like that.
I didn't say they didn't. I said that in the United States, women only show interest in men who are far higher than their SMV and totally ignore / dismiss men who are "in their league" - while in other countries, women show interest to men that are "in their league" and (of course) up.
This one is where your ignorance of non-American / traditional cultures really shines though. You really need to understand what I say here.
Women that don't live under feminist cultures have different values systems. They see the world completely differently. Without feminism, women actually want to marry ASAP to a good provider, it is biologically programmed into them. Monkey-branching in societies especially where divorce is not rewarded and there is no social safety net is a very high risk strategy, and women are highly risk adverse.
It's only feminism with it's "any man in the world should be lucky to have you because vagina!!!" and "if you fuck Chad and get dumped you can always divorce rape your ex to keep the money coming in!!!" that causes women to pursue the high risk strategy of monkey-branching.
Women in traditional societies know a lot of things feminist indoctrinated women don't, and they act very differently because they aren't as stupid as American women.
In fact, the women in Eastern Europe who did get impregnated then dumped often end up looking to date western men, because only western men are beta enough to date gopnik Chad's leftovers.
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Who do you think 1/2 of the women on Ukrainian and Thai dating sites are? They are the minority of stupid ones who got pumped and dumped by Chad-shenko / Chad-abindong and know only a western man will overlook that and marry them up anyways. The other 1/2 are the ones that are too ugly for their countries but Americans (and Brits) see them as 10/10 just because they aren't fat.
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You don't realize how much feminism has warped women's behavior in the United States. I live in one of the oldest, most traditional, Christian societies in the world; and I can say confidently, the things you see American girls do disgust and revolt women in traditional countries. All women have similar biological imperatives: hypergamy, a fear of risk, the desire for children, a desire for safety, etc; but how they play out is totally different between a feminist and traditional culture. In the west, hypergamy always wins. In other places, hypergamy loses out against other imperatives.
A woman that can bag a solid 7/10 who will provide and protect for her is going to choose that in an instant over the nebulous, unsure possibility that she might one day meet a 10/10 "prince charming". (Very unlike the stupid American fat 5 that's always dreaming of a 10 who in reality will only fuck her but never settle down). A woman here is also less likely to dump a 7/10 she's established a life with, even for a 10/10, because she realizes high risk behavior like that is likely result in her having no man at all, while being older and possibly with a child, which is way worse than sticking with the 7/10.
You like feminism because it lets you fuck a lot of woman, sure, I get that. But it also means that if you ever want an LTR, you won't be able to find someone that isn't damaged goods. It's like a cocaine addiction, it feels good in the short term, but in the long term you're going to wonder how your life - and country - and culture - ended up so fucked and sick.
Sure, but it's all an odds game, even a 10/10 man isn't going to attract 100% of women. Starting with a handicap by living in the United States isn't a great plan unless you don't have any other choice - telling American men they should "accept their handicap" and "just work harder" instead of making everything easier by ditching the United States is generally bad advice.
Look, if you (or anyone) can't leave America for other reasons, I get it, everyone has a different situation. But telling men that it doesn't get better than America, and leaving won't matter, that's just a lie, and a damned dangerous one too.
revente 6y ago
Well actually divorce rate in "traditional" Russia is equal to American one an higher than in progressive, feminist Germany or Sweden.
escapethesolarsystem 6y ago
Russia's a dump for economic and social reasons totally unrelated to TRP that result in the 3rd highest suicide rate in the world, high divorce rates, high drug use rates, high rates of child abuse and pedophilia, and all kinds of other social problems. More importantly, divorces in Russia are initiated by men while divorces in the US are initiated by women. That should tell you all you need to know about how incredibly different the countries are in terms of male-female relationships.
Anyways, Russia is not the only country in Eastern Europe, and I'm talking about my country - Georgia - which has none of the Russian problems listed above.
Nicolas0631 6y ago
What's your point and why do you complain ? Go the wonderfull countries you speak of and stop being jealous because an American managed to bang good looking women while your swarm in pussy in estern europe!
escapethesolarsystem 6y ago
Oh, it's not a complaint. It's that u/IntensePancakes is giving American men bad advice:
"If you think American women are shit, don't expect it better anywhere else, just keep wallowing in the American shit and learn to like it."
That's terrible advice - America is dating / sex / relationships / life on abusive nightmare mode. Why try to trick people into thinking they can't leave and have it better anywhere else? I feel bad for my American brothers, don't believe the lie that America is "the same as everywhere else" or "as good as it will ever get". It's better out here - and in lots of other places.
Also, I do live in Eastern Europe. I have a good life here and I love it. I just want to share it with other people who are suffering back in the flaming garbage dump of America. :D
Nicolas0631 6y ago
To my understanding this is different but not necessarily better. In America & Western europe for example, in an LTR, you don't have at all to marry. Also estern europe and russian girls and traditional countries expect more often for men to pay/commit and they want more often to have a real alpha.
Many men that got themselve a estern europe girl got a gold digger or married a woman that only wanted the nationality and left them when they got it and so on.
It may work better if you really live in the country, but then you get to be used to the local standard of living and will not necessarily attract that many women if you are not on the alpha side...
escapethesolarsystem 6y ago
Of course there's always the possibility, but marriages of Americans to Eastern Europeans (if you look at the mail order bride stats), only end in divorce 20% of the time, whereas the normal average for America is 50% of the time.
I mean, not necessarily. I get an American salary because I work remotely, but even if I worked a job here, I would get paid way above the average local due to a combination of experience, english skills, and education that most locals don't have.
Nicolas0631 6y ago
Your case is you work in estern europe and married the woman. So you are at least a great provider because you make much more than most. Maybe you are also relatively alpha and so naturally your woman want to keep you. And the trad values may help. She may cheat but she will stay.
But immagine the contrary, you are un US and mary a european immigrant... Once she get the natioanality she can do whatever and if she is pretty & social, she will have many orbiters around her + apha willing to fuck her.
And then there the worst situation. You can't find a nice girl in US, kind of meaning your are likely a beta/bux or even omega and you try to use your money to get some girl from a poorer country but you are not living there, you just chat over internet or go a few weeks with an agency to help you find one girl. Basically you are the perfect beta fro a gold digger. This is where you take most of the risk that she just take the money without commiting or once she got it that she divorse rape you then marry another american now that she got her entry in the country.
22oregon22 6y ago
Very interesting. The difference in looks between US women and Eastern European women in terms of Tinder is astounding. Anecdotally - I have been seeing women in the states get worse and worse over the years — the party culture, the meds they are on, the shit food they eat, and a culture that says they are “all beautiful” is a devastating combination.
PS2Errol 5y ago
More than 50% are obese, which immediately limits the potential pool by 50% or more.
the99percent1 6y ago
American walk way less than European counterparts.
Plus, taking public transport really means you've gotta stay in shape.
It's so obvious who the american is once they go to europe.
AKnightAlone 6y ago
I went from Indiana to Colorado. In Colorado, which gave of a comparatively crazy wealthy vibe, I almost thought I was going to get treated like a bot because I started swiping right on almost everyone in this college town I was in.
pootaboo 6y ago
I’m going to have to say Colorado is one of the better places in the US for meeting girls. Most of them outdoor oriented, fit, come from stable backgrounds, and are generally friendlier than other parts of the US. Indiana gave you low standards. Same thing happened to me when I lived in Alaska, mind you it was 1 woman to 100 men outside of Anchorage.
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ntvirtue 6y ago
So you can pay alimony to a russian woman instead of a western woman?
MattyAnon Admin 6y ago
Why the fuck would you get married to have kids??
Being married offers you ZERO advantages and a big stack of disadvantages.
Don't pay the mother of your future children to leave you, it's that fucking simple.
hamsterenema 6y ago
Did 20 years. Paid for 10 more. Preach.
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The only reason would be for citizenship reasons.
characterulio 6y ago
Honestly I don't buy the "western women are all fat/ugly". It seems BEAUTIFUL western women these days priotize Instagram more than Tinder. IF you are really fucking hot you go on IG and basically try to have that as your 2ndary job. I know a few 10s and they are all on IG trying to become "influencer" they still have their office jobs or whatever too. I am close friends with a girl like that and literally all her friends are 10s and they do the same. You won't find these chicks on Tinder but maybe on VIP section of a club.
PS2Errol 5y ago
You don't need to 'buy' it. 50% of women are obese - its a fact.
xdppthrowaway9003x 5y ago
It's not a fact. Overweight and obese are different things, and 50% is wrong regardless.
halfback910 6y ago
To be fair it is not just women. The men in eastern europe are way hotter too. A guy between 18-30 was way more likely to have a six pack than not from what I saw in Czechoslovakia. Though my sample was admittedly... skewed.
xdppthrowaway9003x 5y ago
Eastern European men (European men in general) are ugly and look inbred. Now you're just hampstering.
halfback910 5y ago
Uhh seriously? I went to Czechoslovakia and almost every guy my age I saw or met I would have fucked. Same with Albania. All super sexy.
22oregon22 6y ago
I don’t doubt it. Many western men are cucked and feminized at an alarming rate. I would assume Eastern European men are more masculine than. Last western men which (surprise) women are attracted to.
halfback910 6y ago
There is good and bad. I do think the machismo culture of eastern europe is kind of shitty. If you smile at a guy in Russia it's not unheard of for him to confront you physically over it.
"What's funny? What's so funny?" Etc.
Western society is good at breeding high trust/low fraud, respect in institutions, and a negative stigma against cheating (as in cheating someone, not sexual cheating). It's a big part of why America is more prosperous than a lot of machismo/honor cultures (which tend to be low trust/high fraud and view cheating as morally ambiguous).
jihocech 6y ago
This is true for Russia, but not for Czechia, Slovakia, Poland or Hungary.
Hjalmbere 6y ago
No expert on Russia but someone told me that if you smile at other people they think you’re an imbecile.
Chaddeus_Rex 6y ago
Theres a saying in Russian, "laughing without reason is a sign of a dumbo"
Chaddeus_Rex 6y ago
That's why if you've met Russian dudes who come to the US/Canada, you'll notice they are the biggest scammers looking for ways to cheat the system in EVERYTHING. The locals dont understand and view them as "horrible, terrible people" Haha.
Nothing wrong with cheating the system imo. I'd take a less prosperous honor culture over a more prosperous cuckold culture.
xdppthrowaway9003x 5y ago
You should go shit on the floor like an animal then. You seem to hate civilization.
There's nothing honorable about being a lowlife scammer.
Chaddeus_Rex 5y ago
LOL. Guess u were too dumb and got scammed by a russian dude.
Keep getting scammed phaggot
halfback910 6y ago
I don't know, man. I like having a high standard of living lol.
Chaddeus_Rex 6y ago
High standard of living comes with fucked women and cucked men.
I've lived in third world countries before. It's not too bad, especially if you have money.
perdipp 6y ago
signing up for my rosetta stone russian rn
YouNeverKnowAnyone 6y ago
You go to a poor country where women cant afford to be whores and they want a guy with money. Not surprising, different cups shape water in different ways.
ture_tupp 6y ago
you should try Miami as a test city... Honestly, you are going to be stunned
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All you get are are fat women, demanding guys with min 6 in thick dicks, 6 foot tall, and 6 figure salary
SeaAffect 6y ago
Hot women are everywhere in Miami except on Tinder. Open your eyes papi
Pyropiro 6y ago
I really feel sad for what has become of America :(
stoicbotanist 6y ago
Fuck that attitude.
Shit will hit the fan and men will learn to be men again. We'll bounce back. We always do.
Men bust their balls for generations to produce prosperity, but prosperity produces entitlement and laziness. Entitlement and laziness produces... Well, we'll find out soon.
On the bright side, it's easy to be an exceptional man when all the men and women around you are degenerates.
Outcome independence. Remember that
bayareaengineer2019 6y ago
I can relate. I do Tinder here and there in California (Bay Area) with hardly any luck. I tried Tinder when I was actually in St. Petersburg and the results were amazing. Russian girls in general are more attractive than in the West because they take care of their bodies and looks. Girls in the west don’t give AF and more and more are becoming overweight and still demand a Chad.
InvariantD 6y ago
I've visited a handful of European countries. Our 9 or 10 out of 10s' turn into 4 or 5 out of 10s over there.
thechopps 6y ago
Overweight and STILL DEMANDING CHAD
characterulio 6y ago
Honestly it isn't only Russia. I noticed while traveling in different countries, it seems more attractive people are on Tinder but in North America(US/Canada) it is the opposite. Like the city I live in Canada is a mix of all races so you can find all types of beautiful women but I have RARELY seen any 10s on Tinder, ya you get the odd one here and there but not as much as when I am in other countries.
IntensePancakes 6y ago
The bay area is likely the worst big city for dating in the country.
bayareaengineer2019 6y ago
If it wasn’t for the great job opportunities I would be gone.
muricanwerewolf1 6y ago
That was the amazing thing about this guy swiping on those Russian women, American women eat like shit and consider meditative yoga a workout.
russian_nigger 6y ago
they also consider wearing yoga pants and smoking weed as a workout. tinder in most of the states that i've been in is horrendous, i don't even turn it on. i find in person approaches to be the best and good looking girls respond usually in a positive way. also, most good looking women are not on tinder, only the batshit crazy ones as well as the ones looking for providers.
muricanwerewolf1 6y ago
Yeah, I gotta get out there more. My day to day is basically work and the gym, and my closest friends are basically married and only go to one dive bar.
russian_nigger 6y ago
i've been doing shit on my own for a few years now. most of my friends are good people, but they love staying in the bubble. so i do a lot of shit solo. meet good people on the way too.
swaglordobama 6y ago
Make some outgoing friends
NorthEasternNomad 6y ago
Its staggering, the number of overweight, unattractive "like me for me" American women who cant fit into anything size 14 or below, who have to shop at special "feel good about being fat" stores to get clothing...and STILL think they deserve prince fucking charming by way of 50 shades of stupid...
PS2Errol 5y ago
They don't seem to understand that when they are fat they become invisible to men. They might just as well be a 70yr old pensioner.
destraht 6y ago
One of the best things about being East of the Carpathians (especially outside of the EU) is that American women avoid it like the plague. They are all up in South America and its annoying as fuck.
Eastern Europe (not Central which most people think as "East") outside of the airport zones is one of the last liveable anti-American-woman havens on the planet. Recently I spent the last three years jumping between Eastern Europe around the Carpathians, California and Colombia. I compared the positive and negatives and one thing that began to really stand out was the absence of American women in the places that I like to be in Eastern Europe. Places that I really like to be that weren't shit holes like an undeveloped dusty jungle situation (just to get some damn distance from those Americans). Real places with trains, cafes, Internet, education, etc.
So one day in Colombia I was at a rooftop club sitting hip-to-hip with my runway model girlfriend when a fat American woman came over to smash her cooch against my leg pinning it to the bench while she spoke with a (rude) French woman. She was there for a while ignoring my verbal and hand protests. After thirty seconds of not being able to move my leg a millimeter and ignoring my obvious protests I just picked her leg up and rotated it to the other side. She then slapped me, I grabbed her hand when she went to slap twice and I had a bazillion hands on me all at once. When the immediate issue was over I was being lectured by that cool kid kind of Latino beta that knows best on all moral issues. At this point I'd just definitely fucking had it. Can I get some fucking peace or what? How far do I have to go to be left alone?
I bring it up because in my experience there is no reprieve from American women when they are present in any concentration. They are just terrible. Imagine I went to another continent and am in a place with my local girlfriend, 75 other people, only a few of which are American women and they force the issue so crudely. In America they live their reality and if you don't know better it seems normal, acceptable or at least something that must be tolerated. When they leave that place and they'll desperately and clumsily recreate the kinds of conditions that they are accustomed to. They are just terrible; waves after endless waves of their shit and then there is always a new one to offer more shit.
NorthEasternNomad 6y ago
Could not agree more. I can vouch that, especially in groups of any size, American women are simply obnoxious. They really believe, down deep, that we are privileged simply to be in their presence. Even fat, slovenly girls think they're gracing us and we should feel good simply being allowed to touch or speak to them.
Its disgusting.
destraht 6y ago
My frame just isn't tight enough to endure women acting like the worst kind of men while they enjoy full cover and protection. I would simply punch the shit out of a guy who did an equivalent thing to me (without the weird passive-aggressive sexualized part).
So my girlfriend was then informing me that she doesn't like the physical stuff something or other. I asked her if she would need to be all proper-like if a guy did that to her. She looked at me like fuck no that is crazy. The problem is that the local women don't act like that at all but the appeasing system down there has bought into giving cover to women who do in order to maintain the peace . So American women can run amok.
I'm in a place where none of that is in play but I can't spend 99.9% of my life in EE like my American friend. So at some point I'll be around these women again and I need to keep my cool. By about the third time that bizarre female shit happens to me while I'm not getting any sex then I lose my cool.
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Lol you’re blue pilled white mayo beta faggot who failed at life so you resort to being a sexpat. I see you in real life and youd prob look and talk like a little inferior white troglodyte. Goddamn you are stupid.
ShittySoftwar3 6y ago
I agree, eastern european girls are probably the best looking I’ve seen. They care about hygiene and looks, and they look after themself.
characterulio 6y ago
Problem with Eastern European chicks is especially slavs/russians. They are super fucking high demand from what i've seen. I had many guys in my family marry/date Russians/Ukrainians. They are all super hot but psychotic. The crazy hot stereotype is truly common in Eastern Europeans. Not saying they are all like that but don't get a russian girl who wants to be with a foreigner for more freedom or thinks they can just control u.
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characterulio 5y ago
Oh man thank god u mentioned instagram... Ppl think western girls love ig. Eastern europe girls will drive you crazy with instagram. Asian girls also have this issue, they take about 30 pcitures before posting 1 on ig. But i love asian women so i got use to that part.
Chaddeus_Rex 6y ago
Russian girls in the West refuse Russian guys because they are "too intense" or "controlling". And local men are easier to control.
characterulio 6y ago
exactly my point. thats why be careful of russian girls who talk shit about russian men, aka they want a beta.
ShittySoftwar3 6y ago
I currently date a slavic girl, been 5 months and shes been absolutely great. She hasn’t been controlling but i became her closest friend for many months before we dated
characterulio 6y ago
Ya I hope things work out for you but it depends if she grew up in Russia/Ukraine. Also the family members I had who were involved with slavic girls had a great start as well. So it wasn't that they were crazy right away. I think it normally happened right away or after 1 year when they decided to get married/kids make serious decisions.
ShittySoftwar3 6y ago
She’s been good, we both don’t want kids, she knows that I never want to get married and she is okay with this too, she thinks decently logivally and she sees my standpoint on it and says if she was me she’d think the same. She wants to keep life simple, and i appreciate that. Makes shit better for me too as I have aspergers and over complicating shit isnt good for me
Chaddeus_Rex 6y ago
Russian girls are just as slutty tho and not to be trusted.
Remember what happened during the world cup?
bayareaengineer2019 6y ago
Do not cite the thotery that happened during the World Cup. I was there when it happened!
Chaddeus_Rex 6y ago
Got any stories to enlighten the folks here about the thottery of Russian girls?
bayareaengineer2019 6y ago
I’ll take that back, it was just a joke. Russian girls in general are gorgeous and in good shape, easy to talk to, approachable, and overall better than their western counterparts. I was a volunteer at the World Cup so I had a chance to interact with a lot of people. Met lots of college-aged girls who were interested in learning about me and how life was in the states and I was interested to learn more about them. I came back to Russia in the winter time and it was just like OP showed. I used Tinder and got lots of matches (I’m a decent looking guy in good shape) there wasn’t enough time for me to meet all these gorgeous ladies but I will definitely be going back.
Chaddeus_Rex 6y ago
I agree. Doesnt mean they arent hos who throw themselves at foreigners, lie and cheat on their man
bayareaengineer2019 6y ago
Who cares we all know that. Just enjoy them and don’t commit. Follow TRP.
blacktao 6y ago
Maybe y’all are just ugly lol. Seriously. live in the states (Ga) and tinder has plenty of attractive females. Granted you have to filter through the fat & ugly but I honestly match with 8s (black, Latina, white) weekly if I’m using the app daily. I come across 9-10s often as well but they’re typically only reachable via another social media platform they’re promoting.
I’m black and don’t have trouble pulling any race. In real life & tinder lol
chubz4you 6y ago
In georgia too. I have no problem with decent looking women of all races on Tinder. The water buffalo these people are talking about seem to be few and far between compared to attractive girls. Maybe my ELO is high.?
blacktao 6y ago
lol this is just a shit on the US thread
chubz4you 6y ago
Or maybe these guys just arent attractive and projecting their insecurity.
GucciMarxist 6y ago
Wow, they have Tinder the metro? Maybe it was those jammers that cock-blocked you.
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[deleted] 6y ago
Hey OP @uglynihilist, your looks are fine, your photos contrary to what you may think are not decent and I can explain why.
Your photos a culturally cheesy and tacky and I can understand why you struggle with western women... however that is easily fixed. Honestly if you wanted to chat in private I can happily explain where you’re going wrong... nothing you’re doing is hard to fix
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[deleted] 6y ago
Yea time and money could put this guy in the top 20%
ovrload 6y ago
Stop swiping right on all girls and the guy in the video is ugly or quite possibly needs to loose bodyfat
SICFJC 6y ago
It's spelled lose you stupid fuck.
ovrload 6y ago
You sound very agitated. Calm down big boy. Spin some plates and hold frame bro