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To understand women you have to understand children, and no child looks more like their incorrigible self than in the midst of a crisis.
I.
The firm I'm at frequently has to field clients’ problems. Like many others, we are often fast-balled problems that have nothing to do with our primary service due to the massive ethos we carry when it comes to soothing client-ass-pain. That said, there is a marked difference in the way female accounts staff and male accounts staff approach something they can not understand.
Women who are not in control, and who do not immediately have a senior around who is— lose their fucking mind in a crisis. I’ve seen some men, paido-men (Greek: child, boy, infant,) subject to the same lethal panic, but never the best of them. The best of us are the voice of reason and stoic-principle that rights the sales and un-turns the project's course. Such men are a literal lighthouse. They tower above above the waves of incompetent retardation which swell against their cornerstone before dissolving into spineless anger and irrelevance.
I see these waves daily. The women, the paido-men, they call for aid with the most virulent and unproductive urgency. Non-critical issues get exaggerated and efficiency gets discarded immediately. Their lack of objective context completely incapacitates their miniscule potential for finding a resolution.
In essence they are the child who just lost their balloon. 'This shouldn’t be happening,' thinks the child as the balloon floats up, 'this can not have happened!' as it gets farther..
II.
Crises are an ever-present faculty of life. In the midst of one, a child is self destructive and will remain so until they find an external source of stability that will limit their exposure to life’s inexorable chaos.
That is really what this is all about. Exposure to chaos.
Men find strength within themselves when it is absent in the world. In doing so they create an area around them impervious to the chaos that would engulf us all.
Women and children need this like they need oxygen.
They crave it with such wretched desperation they will give their self and anything they have to be near it for a moment.
III.
Women and children are the first off the ship because that ship is irreversibly fucked if anyone else leaves amidst the crisis.
mette13 4y ago
Problem solving has always been a staple of the male gender. Hell, its the whole reason RP exists. Good vocabulary.
MatSapientia 4y ago
I would rewrite the post with simpler language. The idea is getting vague between too many figurative analogies and uncommon vocabulary, not to mention too many grammar mistakes.
BusyHearing 4y ago
> too many grammar mistakes.
Do tell! I want this to resonate like a fucking cannon.
11-Eleven-11 4y ago
You dropped a coma here: >In the midst of one, a boy....,
took me like 3 times to read that part
BusyHearing 4y ago
good call, re-wrote that bit.
Blackhawk2479 4y ago
Start by taking out all of the unnecessary fluff; you can convey this exact same message in about a quarter of the text you actually used.
There’re a lot of grammar issues, “themself” several times and “crisis” as the plural particularly jumped out.
BusyHearing 4y ago
Some fluff is needed to be compelling. I work in advertising and disregarding 'fluff' is a catastrophic mistake if you want resonance.
failingtheturingtest 4y ago
I hope you're not a copywriter.
Your exaggerated prose and incandescent picture telling makes an anxious reader get needlessly distracted as the superfluous verbiage continues to unnecessarily tumble, cascade and eventually, gush into their glistening ocular receivers.
Stop reading award winning author, Dan Brown.
BusyHearing 4y ago
Want to give this shout-out to all of the outmatched anxious-readers out there.
Also— shout-out to ineffective irony.
OktkO 4y ago
For 1: Not really because if you're trying to get your point across, it's better to use more common language. That way everyone "in the room" will know what you're talking about, leading to more ideas and conversation with each other.
BusyHearing 4y ago
It's a trade off. You likely agree I have a better chance of getting higher quality traction this way, though at the admitted cost of losing the bottom of the curve.
OktkO 4y ago
I guess so. At the end of the day if it works for your job it's alright, but if you are trying to include everyone in on your ideas such as the TRP I'd keep in mind of what I've said
BusyHearing 4y ago
Will do. My last post was yeeted by a mod and this one is clearly much better. Hoping to stick to that trend.
jlife18 4y ago
Are you in public accounting?
bossplayaintraining 4y ago
I like this as a reframe of “women and children first because men are disposable & nobody cares about us,” which is also true. Empowering as fuck.
Comes down to what u focus on... 2 sides to every coin.
BusyHearing 4y ago
Truth. Thank god someone could parse this.
Too many comments saying my grammar is fucked without providing any examples.
edit: they did provide examples and I learned something.
Das_Teacher 4y ago
The grammar is okay, but the amount of adjectives you use makes it hard for non-natives to grasp the ideas you're trying to emphasize on.
868-hack 4y ago
The text reads a little fancy. I like this type of prose but some probably don't.
UsernameIWontRegret 4y ago
I think the really interesting bit is that women and children leave so no one can bother the men fixing the problem. Really interesting. When my apartment building was supposedly on fire I was with my mom and sister. They had no idea what to do, but my adrenaline kicked in I got them out, the cats out, and all of our important shit. I was stunned how calm I was throughout it all.
BusyHearing 4y ago
You are exactly right— I did try to save the best for last.
The multitude of life examples that showcase this idea should straighten the back of every man.
bmw1999m3 4y ago
I really liked your post. I saved this. Thanks.
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Quo210 4y ago
Before finding TRP I could not understand how it was possible for women to be utterly unable to solve problems, completely and absolutely uncapable of learning to deal with chaos, how everything has to be dealt with using drama, guilt and screaming - and yet not tackling any problem, just making it bigger.
Any crisis will unleash waves of wailing and they will anchor into inaction. It is, for some reason, very disgusting to me. I do not feel protective of them, I feel nauseated when gazing upon these situations. And yet, now that I have the explanations and it does make sense from evolutive and biological POVs, I'm still disgusted.
Keep relatioships with women at very superficial points, but never to rely on or be around too long. Work on yourself to be as independant from society and others as much as possible. There is a need they have to unleash chaos, and then sit in the middle of it, unable to solve it. And that will burn you as hell.
Nicolas0631 4y ago
Some women are perfectly capable but they still like their men to do the stuff or complain constantly he isn't doing it right.
lala_xyyz 4y ago
it's a need to make men compete against each other, so that they can see who's the best and than they can fuck him
NorthEasternNomad 4y ago
Never rely. Never expect. Never, ever depend.
DeChef2 4y ago
Learn to enjoy women.
You expect them to act like men. The problem is they aren’t. They are women.
The reason you’re disgusted is because they don’t meet your expectations. The only problem is that your expectations are crap.
Don’t expect women to be or to do something they aren’t or can’t do.
Quo210 4y ago
As I said, I'm aware of it, regardless of the explanations. The pill is hard to swallow. It'll be some (long) time before it is fully accepted on a subconcious level, where disgust is born.
KittyHotNose 4y ago
Would you be pleased if women were decisive, took action, and held themselves accountable?
I understand you believe that never happens, but it does. I'd site examples, but then I'd be virtue signaling, so there is no point.
DeChef2 4y ago
I never said it never happens, when we say never, or all, we really mean almost never and almost all. It’s simply easier that way.
Nicolas0631 4y ago
Most women will act to protect children in particular if no man is there to help.
Simpman4 4y ago
Couldn’t understand a thing but I’m sure you are onto something
BusyHearing 4y ago
I just re-formatted and re-wrote some parts. I want this to resonate with clarity for everyone— help me see what remains unclear.
James_Rustler_ 4y ago
I like your message, when the storms come, those who built their house upon the rock prevail. I also like the verbosity, it works in most places and doesn't seem too grandiose.
Just a few grammar suggestions:
female accounts staff -> female staff
male accounts staff -> male staff
the sales -> the sails (this is the only real mistake I saw)
ever-present faculty -> ever-present (facet/element/feature/condition)
strength in themself - > strength in themselves
BusyHearing 4y ago
Thanks for the useful feedback.
the sales -> the sails
This was intentional. It is a play on the seafaring analogy which underlies the message.
strength in themself - > strength in themselves
You are correct.
whyserenity 4y ago
“Large store of ethos.” “Fastballed. “Lingo like that that might be familiar to your company and industry but normal people just blank at that wording. Think writing to a 6th grade level. Dumb everything down.
BusyHearing 4y ago
Understand that I have no interest in writing about the weaknesses of children to children.
It is my hope that the context would cover any allusion or metaphor that is not self evident, but I appreciate your feedback and will edit some elements.
halfback910 4y ago
Interesting fact: the Titanic is one of very few shipwrecks where women and children first was a thing.
Historically the rule of the day on sinking ships was not "women and children first" but "Fuck you, out of my way: people with guns, crew, and men first."
Nobody is sure exactly why the titanic was different but it probably had something to do with the panic and very conflicting messages about exactly how much danger everyone was in.
BusyHearing 4y ago
Hard to believe. Men's disposability has been a tenet of human existence long before we had ships, much less steam engines.
Elliquin 4y ago
I think you mean “tenet” btw :)
halfback910 4y ago
I'm not at my pc but you can google it if you want. In order the people most likely to survive a sinking ship were:
1: People with fucking guns
2: Crew
3: Able bodied Male passengers
4: Female passengers and children in the company of able bodied male passengers
5: Everyone else
We don't have super accurate statistics before, say, the baroque era. Which is fine because up until like the 1500s sinking ships were almost always total losses. When ships sank they did it pretty quickly and life boats were mehh. And people legitimately thought knowing how to swim was bad luck.
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halfback910 4y ago
But it was true compared to contemporary shipwrecks too.
Freezer2609 4y ago
Have you ever noticed that a lot of women announce when they go for a pee?
Like its some accomplishment that needs to be cheered for...
spider_1337 4y ago
Or when they yell "i have to pee!" Like damn if you really gotta go then just go
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Rkingpin 4y ago
Check my post history for clearer analogy on the similarities between women and children
BusyHearing 4y ago
Will do, but note that is not really the main idea behind this post.
KeffirLime 4y ago
There’s been a very noticeable rise of men approaching problems with the exact same helplessness as women or children these days.
I’ve had male employees and colleagues over the years absolutely incapable of problem solving without a superior on deck. They’d absolutely freeze up and wait for someone to take control of the situation.
This is likely due to decades of soft parenting where mommy and daddy do everything short of change their underwear. Add in rising single motherhood and lack of strong, leading father figures and you’ve got hordes of clueless young males coming through.
It’s no wonder then, that in today’s day and age women quiver with excitement when they see a strong, focused, stoic man who has direction and stability. The bar really isn’t that high to stand out.
SeasonedRP 4y ago
I have noticed this too in my field. Younger men identify issues and problems but have no proposed solutions, and seem almost afraid to propose solutions.
Jake_le_Dog 4y ago
I can't understand what you're saying. Good vocab, bad grammar.
BusyHearing 4y ago
> bad grammar.
Help me make this more lucid if you would.
Jake_le_Dog 4y ago
correction: Women who aren't in control without a superior around to guide them will lose their minds in a crisis.
I've seen some paido-men (if you really must use this overly exaggerated and made-up term, ie you're mixing greek with english, but the expression isn't of common use, you made it up, so it comes across as really stupid; I'd rather you use "manchild") [... ]
panic like that isn't lethal
best of whom? Voice of stoic principle?(no dash needed). Rights the sales? What does that even mean? Un-turn... my god,man.
correction: those of us who are the best at our job act accordingly. We remain reasonable and stoic and return the project back on its course
You know, I just realized, I don't even know how much of a problem you're having. You never told. Was it just a problem for your colleagues who can't even fend for themselves, or are these problems generally large in scope, and by not fixing them entire projects can go down as a result?
They're figurative lighthouses to be exact. If you're going to play around with big words, do so correctly. You come off as an average intelligence bum with "good" education, who's hoping to show off to the internet lords of trp.
Fuck off: They stand tall above the seas of incompetence and shine a light for those who are lost. | or something like that if you really want your analogy.
Dude, I hope you get the gist of it. You've got to learn grammar, and then how to write. This was a terrible read, and still is. It jumps from one tense to the other. No connection between two sentences, let alone paragraphs. No fluidity. KISS : KEEP IT STUPID SIMPLE.
MilkMoney111 4y ago
Gotta say OP I enjoyed the post and judging by the comments you really cleaned up the vocab. I didn’t see it before but it reads really well so good job taking criticism too
NormalAndy 4y ago
Really good read- thanks.
Crises are ever present alright. Always crashing against me and ultimately frustrating. Still, I love the fact that they give me a chance at being rock solid. It’s a great feeling.
III made me smile. Women and children first coz you are the last thing we need right now!
random_echo 4y ago
I agree. Interesting point of view.
chaar__log 4y ago
Who speaks like this. No offence but it feels like you are trying too hard to sound smart.
BusyHearing 4y ago
No offence received. I speak like this, and it's not uncommon where I live or where I work.
tekn0_ 4y ago
Do you work in a woman dominated industry or work environment?
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OSaraiva 4y ago
This thread needs a story OP.
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SeasonedRP 4y ago
I didn't see glaring grammar issues. Note that they and their are plural.The trend is to use them to modify singular nouns to avoid saying "he." You can fix by rewording to make the noun plural (children instead of child, for example) or just saying he, or he or she, as a modifying pronoun. No biggie. It is common to use they and their as singular now, but it is technically incorrect.
BusyHearing 4y ago
Good to know. I will incorporate this moving forward