I was 19; decided I wanted to go an adventure.
So I got in my Kia Sportage and left for the road with somewhere west in mind. I didn’t know where I would end up, and I didn’t let anyone in my family know that I was brushing my teeth and washing up in a gas station somewhere in Tennessee.
I was very naive. I had never really left my hometown to go anywhere other than Florida. So I was pretty much overwhelmed with wanderlust and idealized people like Chris Mccandless at the time for the rebellion and journey (hinting at my introversion and lack of social experience)
I drove through many towns and offspots. Brought my shitty camera in the idea I’d be famous for my pursuits. I stopped pretty much wherever I felt like going, but still I had no idea what the fuck I was doing.
I would sleep overnight at Planet Fitness. Because I had some money from the job I had a week prior; lost. This is how I got into fitness, and learned pretty much my passion for it.
I ended up in Chicago. Big city, having never actually been to a city with skyscrapers and shit for more than 30 minutes I was completely overwhelmed. I arrived in a place called Wicker Park (gentrified ghetto) and was shocked by everything
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Beautiful women everywhere
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People everywhere
- Paid parking
4: Homeless people (crazy right)
I parked my car at a CVS and alerted my family that I was now in the city; alone.
Everything was fresh and exciting; the architecture of the buildings, The streets, the history. I viewed myself as a tourist and was so eager to explore and do as much as I could before reverting to my original plan. (California?)
Some nights I was alone wondering around the city by myself. Expecting people to find that interesting. Other nights I’d crash at strangers homes from an app I found for travelers. These people would show me around give me tips for where to go it was nerve inducing but so much fun. For once I didn’t think about how much of a loser I was, or my lack of friends/success. I was enjoying my little struggle.
I ended up staying with a wealthy gay man For a bit in the financial district. (Crazy after dwelling in a Planet fitness parking lot) All the sudden I had a gorgeous view of the city after experiencing much of the rough and up and coming.
I applied for a job as a butcher at a Whole Foods; and then came my transformation.
I was hungry for success, for better, to get out of my car permanently and maybe find an apartment. Some nights I’d crash on the side of the road in my car. Other nights I had a luxury couch to sleep on and a view my old self would’ve been shocked to experience.
I got the job, out of luck with a spotty resume and no experience and I was making bank all the sudden. (For a 19 year old homeless kid)
I became obsessed with bettering myself. I guess along with the nights spent starving; Freezing and dodging of parking lot security, brings ambition; I was full of it. A surreal feeling. I didn’t care that I was living out of my car. I didn’t tell anyone; no one knew either because I was dressed very well frequently. That’s beside the point, I was living and enjoying the shit out of life despite where I slept at night. Anyway, to conclude this tale and make it relevant to this sub, i will list what exactly happened to me and how I improved for the better. Being a somewhat hopeless kid my previous life.
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Being out of your comfort zone is good; most times
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Women sense your ambition and motivation
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When your freezing your ass off in a car with sweaty clothes from the gym; you will love working.
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I had no insecurity, I only had things I knew I could improve on; my skin, body, personality, hair, etc.
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I struggled, but I was never sad. I felt like life was going somewhere; and with my motivation to get better I knew I would be successful
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Fitness is important; I worked out for two hours each morning before leaving the parking lot. I learned about eating at a caloric surplus...HEALTHY protein dense foods. (I had several new stains inside my car from making protein shakes at 1:00 am under my cocoon of blankets.
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When I was on my path, I was horny yes; but i was carving a spot for myself in this beautiful city. That was the most important thing.
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There was no Time for me to be sad and brooding or to jerk off in the bathroom to porn. I was around people, noise constantly. Stress constantly but I only ever cared when I wanted to sleep.
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I was so unappreciative of what I had in my hometown; a bed, a warm room, a shower, access to many resources including school and a healthy social life. But i didn’t take advantage because I was socially anxious and weak inside. I needed this crazy self righteous struggle to find internal peace and comfort in myself.
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All you have to do is make the leap. Don’t think; I hated my life, it became to much one day and I hit the road.
- I realized I could do anything. If I could leva my hometown with only an idea of how I’d end up. Pack 20 lbs of muscle on to my frame, get a job a good job (for me), sleep overnight in subzero temperatures, improve my skin and appearance, dress well, not eat for four days awaiting a paycheck and still explore the city for fun. That I could anything, this includes approaching the hottest girl at the store and hanging her on the first date (yea me, homeless virgin)
I might try to edit this post a bit; I’m not sure if it even helps or if it will be taken down or not. My writing is all over the place but hopefully the gist is apparent. I may delete it too who knows
jewishsupremacist88 5y ago
you were taking it up the ass for a couch to sleep on>
LicksMackenzie 5y ago
nice so how are you doing now?
Balderdash79 5y ago
To add to this point you made:
After Hurricane Opal in 1995, my Gulf Breeze condo got obliterated and I ended up working out of a temp service in Pensacola doing hurricane clean-up. Spent most of that 2 months sleeping behind the temp place in a store parking lot under their semi-trailer full of pine straw.
When you are "out of doors" like that, make sure to keep your grooming in check and your clothing clean.
There is a huge difference between "homeless" smelling like piss with a 5-day neckbeard and shitty clothes checking vending machine change slots for beer money, and "out of doors" walking presentable with your head high and your shoulders back as you walk to work and steady saving your money to improve your situation.
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Reformed65 5y ago
I'm surprised your parents didn't grab your arm as soon as you looked at the door and demanded all the nitty-gritty of how you're going to conduct your journey.
embracingtheredpill 5y ago
Thanks for reminding me what I was like at 19, and what hunger looks like again. I let fear and superficial pleasures and the uninformed opinions of others and their agendas get in the way. My hunger, and ambition have never let me down. Stay safe kid.
hearse223 5y ago
Interesting story on this guy, thanks for sharing
daymi 5y ago
If you are young, don't take the self-righteous romanticism of Chris Mccandless too seriously. I did, but I snapped out of it in my 30s. In fact we are all in nature and all that you need to do if you don't like your peers (because they are suffocating you etc) is to change your residence (depending on how far you go there are very very cheap or free residences in strange places where no one will bother you) - not check out of society for good with no damn preparation for the wilderness. In order to scratch the itch while not being a moron (I'm mainly criticising my old self) I go camping now (to the mountains, with a high-tech jeep I borrow, and with friends).
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WaxyWasabi 5y ago
Funny you say this because I'm 19 and when I save up 500 more dollars, I'm just gonna get in my car and go. I don't know where to but I'm just gonna go. I don't know how I'm going to eat, sleep, or anything. I'll just improvise along the way.
P.S. Into the Wild is one of my favorite movies.
Sickem_roy 5y ago
Look into a Black card membership at planet fitness. There are locations everywhere, and a shower as well as gym equipment to use. Important to stay healthy, stretch etc. also Couchsurfing app is great for finding people to let you stay with them for a day or two while you explore.
NeuralTech 5y ago
Cool story. Good for you that you grew well.
Why Chicago? That place is a Communist shithole.
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Sickem_roy 5y ago
I always wanted to see a big city. Chicago was on the way to the west coast which was my rough idea of where I’d like to be at the time.
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MR_SKINNYPENIS69 5y ago
So I hate to be that guy after such a great post, but...
Did the gay guy really just let you stay at his place, no strings attached?
Skylights1000 5y ago
I was wondering why he had to mention that wealthy man was gay...
Sickem_roy 5y ago
Haha yes, for about two weeks. I was happy to have any roof over my head for a bit. I did no gay stuff clarification for ya cunts
dodgefan45 5y ago
Sure you didnt. Did you however pose for the shower camera?
42gauge 5y ago
How did you meet him / convince him to let you stay at his house?
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halfback910 5y ago
So you're saying that the nitty gritty gay erotica was... Not out of your comfort zone?
In the interests of disclosure my sexuality is:
not latent.
Gayer than a cum flavored popsicle
You must have been quite the experience. At his level of wealth he could afford to rent a new car every day but instead he leased.
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CainPrice 5y ago
I wouldn't encourage anybody to follow your path, exactly. But people definitely need to get out of their comfort zones and realize how little we actually need to survive.
When you're an unmarried guy in your 20s, you will never be as free as you are today, right now. All you need is enough money to eat tonight.
I wouldn't recommend living hand to mouth and literally only having enough money for dinner and nothing more, but if you have a decent job with a decent salary, no wife or kids, and just a modest rent to pay, you can bank money fast. It gets to the point where you can buy any toys you want. You're a 20-something guy in a mediocre apartment, and you can buy a new car every year if you want. Meanwhile, your married 40-year-old boss with triple your salary has to count pennies because he's paying a mortgage in the suburbs, sending his kids to private school, and paying off his wife's SUV.
Are you 25, unmarried, with five digits or more saved away in the bank? You can literally take a month off from work, right now, and go all the way across the world. Have you ever seen Dubai? The Maldives? Tokyo? Iceland? You can literally block out a week or two on your work schedule next month or two months from now, buy an advance plane ticket and hotel room, and go there. No wife will bitch at you, no kids will get taken from you, and you have enough money saved up to do it. Are you an American who wants to live in Europe or Brazil or Costa Rica for a year? You can literally see what another culture is like right now.
When you don't have wife and kids and a mortgage and aren't going to be literally ruined for life if you lose your job, you can do things like that. You can literally just go to another city right now. The idea that you need to put down roots, advance a few ranks in the office, maybe buy a house so you start accruing equity, and really dig in your heels and over-invest in your life somewhere...all of that is bullshit guys do when they want to marry someone and have kids. If you're not tied down by a woman, kids, and a mortgage, you can literally drive to another city and put a deposit in on an apartment right now. Any time you want.
TheLongerCon 5y ago
I'm a 25 year old with 5 figures in the bank, who's lived abroad. While what you're saying is technically correct, doing any of those things except taking 2 weeks vacation abroad would likely hamper my ability to make money in the long term, and I have one of the more mobile careers.
If you're trying to be a lawyer, accountant, doctor, or any other kind of professional that requires actual certification to work, you can't really just up and leave to another country without missing a massive amount of experience. If you're a software engineer, yeah you can maybe make it happen, but you'd still probably see a massive pay cut.
And the mystique of moving to another country may seem cool at first, but it gets old pretty quickly. After the first few weeks of actually being somewhere working and paying the bills, it's just another city. Except you have a smaller social circle, smaller professional network, less money, you're farther away from friends and family, and you know don't know the culture, maybe not even the language making it impossible to break into certain cliques.
As someone who's done it for 3 months, it's not a bad thing, but the stories you hear about traveling suffer from a massive amount of survivor bias. All the people who tried it and thought it was kinda meh didn't bother to write blog post and those that did like it won't mention what they're giving up professionally in opportunity cost to do so. Everyone wants to make their trip seem super awesome.
novalentineforyou 5y ago
If you like the arts, you'll definitely find Europe rewarding. The United States cannot compare to Europe when it comes to fine art and architecture.
ikarianarsi 5y ago
I'm a software engineer. People take a month off work all the time
dxbfmby 5y ago
I will counter this argument about a smaller social circle, as somebody now living in my fourth country in as many years.
Young expat life hugely expands your circle, and your opportunities, if you make the effort to go out and find it. Granted, it’s location-dependent. In Hong Kong, full of young English teachers and business interns, I had an extended network of 100+ people I could party with or at least grab a coffee with. In my current country I am truly alone; I have dozens of conversations every day but I don’t have that sense of belonging to a network, but this is because I’m somewhere pretty remote now with no expat scene and even no suggestions on Tinder. However, if you take a season or year working in any new major city you WILL find a network. That push to expand your horizons also grows stronger. I hate the cliché of “finding yourself” but maybe it’s true. It doesn’t mean yoga and elephant trousers in Thailand (unless you want it to), it means seeing who you are and how you function when in a completely alien environment and with nobody to judge or restrict your thoughts and actions in the way that they do throughout childhood and even college.
russian_nigger 5y ago
man i loved hong kong when i was there. the nightlife is not ideal there, kinda boring, but man, did i love exploring the city. was going to come back at the end of this year, but with all the shit going on right now i don't know how that will work out
dxbfmby 5y ago
Dude how far did you delve into the nightlife? It's expensive as fuck but it exists. Lan Kwai Fong and Soho (two streets apart) both have techno clubs that OPEN at 6am after final call everywhere else, and close around 3pm, if you're into drugs enough to last it out.
Wan Chai wasn't my scene; too many old men with young prostitutes, but it's a good place for a social pub quiz or british style pub crawl. Also the best place for indie live music nights.
russian_nigger 5y ago
yeah man I've been everywhere there, lkf was unimpressive. small area with some bars and clubs, nothing to write home about. don't get me wrong, i did pull there, but i expected more out of hk.
UpOnCloud9 5y ago
I’ve traveled the world and lkf is some of the best partying I’ve come across
ReformSociety 5y ago
The grass is always greener on the other side.
dhp1161 5y ago
Agreed. They are both right imo
Coslin 5y ago
This, exactly.
And people don't really understand until it's too late, the grass is greenest here, in the good ol' US of A.
Chaddeus_Rex 5y ago
I'd argue its greener in Kharkov being paid a US salary and paying pennies in taxes, banging beautiful women every day, going to 'expensive'/posh (not for you) resturants and enjoying the fuck out of life.
UpOnCloud9 5y ago
I’d argue it’s greener getting paid US salary in Bali or Thailand.
42gauge 5y ago
And which jobs pay such a salary?
UpOnCloud9 5y ago
Software engineer. I’m sitting in a garden in Bali right now and will pivot to Sri Lanka in a few weeks
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42gauge 5y ago
Web design? It seems to be more popular in nomadic software engineers than in the normal population.
UpOnCloud9 5y ago
Normal fullstack software engineering. No design.
42gauge 5y ago
Ah, it and data science are what interest me. Without prying too much, how are your long-term career prospects looking? One thing which I'm concerned about is what happens when I turn 50 or 40 and the tech stack has moved faster than I could keep up with it?
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russian_nigger 5y ago
i'm in my 30s and i'm doing what you're describing now because i was too busy being an aloof idiot spending all my money on partying, drugs, women in my 20s
sunluzzen 5y ago
Me too, unless I dont have a child
strikethrough123 5y ago
What? You say you’re weak inside but yet you have the balls to leave all your comforts behind and be voluntarily homeless. That takes an enormous amount of balls.
nothestrawberrypatch 5y ago
I think what this does it is gives you an incredible humble sense of self. What you are fully capable of. Getting completely out of your comfort zone created your character. Your frame is probably rock solid because of it. Good for you man. Keep it up. Also good post.
cydestiny 5y ago
tl:dr OP found himself.
A good write up and a good experience, it sure does take some courage to make the leap. I think next time anyone asked stupid questions at /asktrp, we could just redirect him to this. Keep it up OP, hope to see you someday in a book/documentary/etc.
Selfmade1219 5y ago
Really curious, how did you do your laundry?
Sickem_roy 5y ago
I used a laundromat, stored dirty clothes in a trash bag and gathered them to wash when I wasn’t working. Pretty cheap in rougher areas
afterthe_fapocalypse 5y ago
idk what OP did but there are laundromats, and the gay guy would probably have a washer/dryer at his place
SmokinGrunts 5y ago
Gyms are actually super great resources for the homeless. I met a homeless guy while I was working graveyard shifts at a gas station during my late teens/early 20's. Every shift for months he'd walk over from the bus and I'd chill with him, talk with him on a bench outside, and after every shift I'd take him to the local XSport. They'd let him use their laundry machines, shower, and even gave him access to their members office room.
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raymondreamer 5y ago
I did the same thing at 19, a nearly identical path really. 24 now, and it all worked out. Wish I would of wrote this.
bossplayaintraining 5y ago
How did you manage to make it all work out? I’m 22 (almost 23) & scared of making that jump because I’m worried that if I do I will REMAIN homeless & poor for the rest of my life (then again that’ll probably happen to me anyway if I stay in Toronto), & that my parents might start a massive worldwide manhunt for me because they’re worried about me.
raymondreamer 5y ago
You gotta revisit your beliefs, and get scared. Get addicted to the newness of life and the script will take you along. Enjoy the movie.
XanJamZ 5y ago
I did something similar but different, I became an over the road truck driver with intent to get tf out my hometown, minimize and have some adventures way out of my comfort zone; all while getting paid very well.
rizzyfromthe9 5y ago
You’re crazy but I like it
Even though I didn’t go through what you did, it makes me appreciate what I have now
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twy3440 5y ago
Great story. And you're in Chicago now? Welcome to Chicago. I'd love to buy you a beer sometime and hear more stories.
bigballer29 5y ago
Gotta have the Chicago boys get together for a beer
BukakiTsunami 5y ago
I’ve always thought that one of the reasons why the generation that fought in WW2 was so great and did such great things was because of exactly what you described.
They left home, family, and comfort. They saw the world, They overcame fear and adversity They survived and thrived with nothing more than their own wits
When you’re standing on your own two feet, and handle whatever is thrown at you, you develop a confidence that allows you to meet anything in front of you.
You also get out from under yourself, meaning your thoughts aren’t focused on your own insecurities and your own internal analysis of yourself and you just DO whatever is in front of you.
Women flock to men like that. Those are the ultimate protectors, and that is ideally what a woman is looking for in life. Someone that doesn’t sit around and ponder things, but just gets up and handles whatever is necessary to ensure the survival and thrival of those he has been entrusted to protect.
Reformed65 5y ago
And that's why millennials and Generation Z are getting fucked because mommy coddles them into staying at home and the second they look outside "TIMOTHY WHERE DO YOU THINK YOU'RE GOING! MAKE SURE YOU INSTALL THAT GPS APP I TOLD YOU-" blah blah blah.
sensestiveMale 5y ago
Redpill shows us the way to be free..
Like OP, What a Man is made of, can only be found by yourself
currysoslutavuk 5y ago
When i was 16 i was hitchhiking and camping all alone in my country(Turkey- some middle east contry) while studying. It took two years to travel most of the country. It was fun and i gained shit load of experience. Met a lot of people, learned deal with criminals and broke my shell.
Now i'm 19 too and trying to go to collage in europe. I learned in that trip that world is not that small and there is a lot of things to learn outside of my city.
xKalista 5y ago
'Turkey- some middle east country' i giggled, turkey is probably the most well known middle easter country (besides israel maybe)
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Schhwing 5y ago
Cool story. Might make a book one day.
Where are you now?
Anusunset 5y ago
I went down a similar path for a short while. Probably the best experience I've had.
Much was learned, and if anyone feels trapped I encourage you to take that first step. Don't worry about a job because it will come. Starting from nothing does something to a man.
Noogisms 5y ago
I grew up in an affluent public school environment, with supportive parents. One day I found myself as a medical student building a life that just wasn't for me... so I left "it all" : got into my car and drove to California.
For a short while I slept in a combination of surfer beachbum hovels, directly on the beach, and occasionally at a friend's garage apartment (he was the chef to a very well-off divorcé; I knew him from Texas).
Eventually I installed a 30A 2-pole outlet in their garage (uh... for California things...) and was then invited to live with them full-time as Mr. Fix It.
The world really is a strange place. Mistress eventually stumbled into her own death while under a drug-fueled, un-escorted trip to gamble. Sad day but her world is now at peace. We (her possé) all disbanded, thereafter.
I would place my own excursion, West, in my "Top Ten Experiences that I WOULDN'T wish to live through again..."
Now I'm an electrician, mid-30s, and laugh often with older male clients... wondering aloud on things like: "how the HELL am I still alive??!"
Thanks for reminding me of what motivates my own (admittedly VERY RELAXED) ambitions: to NEVER have to be that poor/lost, ever again =D
dopexile 5y ago
You left Florida for Chicago? That seems so backwards. The whole state of Illinois is losing population and Chicago is financially doomed. Many people are fleeing for Florida as it has no income tax.
Also if I was going to be homeless, why moved to such a cold place?
Congrats on joining the rat race. Myself? I am trying to figure out how to get out and retire.
Sickem_roy 5y ago
Chicago was very warm when I arrived. I knew if i was going to be sleeping out of my car it would be better to stay somewhere cold than really humid. Sweating in car/home was not too fun
Balderdash79 5y ago
THIS.
I live aboard a sailing ship, winter in Florida is much more liveable than summer in Florida. No flies, less humidity, and less sweating means I only have to wash the bedding once a month instead of once a week.
42gauge 5y ago
Do you work as crew or do you own the boat?
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Cheddar_Curtain 5y ago
You could argue that Florida is backwards and redneck (Florida Man stories) and honestly I fucking hate humidity so I could never live there.
I agree that Illinois and Chicago especially are financially doomed. That is why I left the state in 2007, I saw the writing on the wall. That being said Chicago is still a 'world' city of which Florida has no equivalent. And if you're not laying down roots who cares about city finances and property taxes?
dopexile 5y ago
I'd rather deal with rednecks any day than an electorate that is going to steal a large portion of the money that I work hard to earn.
Illinois income tax and Chicago Property tax is out of control. They even have taxes on soda and digital services like Netflix now. There are talks of a new constitutional amendment to revoke the flat tax.
As more people that leave the state, they will turn the heat up on the people that stay. Their loyalty will be rewarded by being taxed into oblivion to pay for insane pension promises.
Cheddar_Curtain 5y ago
At some point there won't be anybody left to tax and city and or state will have to declare bankruptcy. That's when shit gets interesting. The pensioners might get kneecapped. It's becoming a problem even in cities that are relatively well managed. If they fixed the healthcare cost problem this would all go away.....
vullnet123 5y ago
They actually got rid of the sugar tax
dopexile 5y ago
Thanks for the update.
Probably the first tax that has ever been eliminated in Chicago.
vullnet123 5y ago
Well to make you feel better, they did just add another gas tax
dopexile 5y ago
I just watched a video about the gas tax. Pritzker looks like a beached whale.
He can't find the self control to stop eating but somehow he is going to have the self-control to run the state budget responsibly and save the state? What a joke. He is going to run the state into the ground.
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shark30k 5y ago
How old are you? I'm 22 and planning my life backwards to early retirement at the age of 35 max. That's how programmers think backwards.
Reformed65 5y ago
How do you plan your life backwards?
42gauge 5y ago
I assume he means set out a goal, then work backwards, at each stage thinking "where do I want to be at this point" while keeping the end goal in mind.
Kind of weird of him to suddenly bring that up uncalled for, but w/e
Reformed65 5y ago
He's showing off because he completed Lesson 1 in CodeAcademy.
42gauge 5y ago
Too bad he hasn't been grinding leetcode since he was three. He'll never make it into FAANG.
0x9A30D7C49714D98000 5y ago
In life, many of the ways you need to grow as a man will come from uncomfortable experiences. Breakups, lifting weights, being rejected, getting your ass kicked, being unemployed, or being homeless like OP was - all of these trials and experiences teach you lessons about life and about yourself that are really hard to comprehend just by reading the stories of others.
j-mac-rock 5y ago
What if your 29 and just graduated college
Sickem_roy 5y ago
Never to late; set a goal to get to California, or New York, or somewhere else. I didnt plan anything out but that’s my style I guess
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Auldgalivanter 5y ago
What are you doing now? We all,,,,im sure want to hear part2
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huey764 5y ago
I eventually plan on doing this. Am 17, from SoCal (living with my parents obviously), but I want to move to Tijuana soon cus its cheaper there. I originally planned on selling drugs and working but I dont know about the drugs anymore. Too risky. Any advice?
Sickem_roy 5y ago
Don’t go anywhere crazy hot. I learned this the hard way, be sure to save up a decent amount of money. Planet fitness black card is cheap and reliable. Good luck if you follow through.
frooschnate 5y ago
Why the fuck would you move to Tijuana and sling
Fucking cali kids
xKalista 5y ago
yeah its damn risky especially in the states. Get a job
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