A few days ago, I made a post where I linked a post of a podcast where women spoke about their problems with fucking guys. I knew before posting that it was going to create a lot of controversy, and it did. People thought I was new to TRP, that I was a woman trying to enforce their views, or I was falling back to my blue pill habits. I won't lie, like all of us here I still have my little blue pill habits like breaking frame at extreme or very new situations but that is life and failure is not a bad thing, forcing yourself into these environments is what essentially creates that frame which is nearly unbreakable.
What I want to write to you about today is about thinking for yourself and perspectives. The reason my post was deleted, and also my concurrent post where I talked about "benevolence", was because this subreddit is not for things that require for you to very critically think and to have the ability to have your frame be broken back to blue pill habits. If you are scared that you will fall back into your old blue pill habits from watching a bunch of girls speak, you definetly need to strengthen your frame and how do you strengthen it? By putting yourself into situations where your frame is able to be broken.
I have been here for about 4 years now, lurking and reading posts daily. I started out as a very blue pill guy like most of you, but with hard work I was able to develop and master some of these red pill concepts. But it came with some negatives. I didn't listen to people when it was actually in my best interest, I had multiple girls try to accuse me of rape, and the only reason they weren't because I showed them recordings in my phone which I recorded right after the sex where I questioned them about if it was rape or not. This gave me some clarity that I actually NEED to listen to other people, place their words thru a filter in my brain which decided if there was anything good and implement the changes in my actions without mentioning the other person.
Why I'm advocating exposing yourself to female content, like subreddits where they discuss Female dating strategy is because life is about perspectives. Blue pill is one perspective, red pill is one perspective, your ego is one, your higher self is one and also the other participant is one. There are countless of more perspectives from where to look at things and they will inflict your decision making. When you allow yourself to observe these other perspectives for what they are and not let your ego consume them into you, you will be able to make your decisions from all of these perspectives which you have higher understanding, from all of that exposure and have a higher chance of success in anything you do.
Being an alpha is essentially about being a leader. These traits that are listed here are just traits a leader, a king has. A good king will always have courtiers and advisers, (like Laws of Power states) that give them outside perspectives to difficult choices. Now, you aren't in a position to do that since you probably don't have people who constantly want to spend time with you just to absorb your energy. But what you do have is the internet, where a countless number of people upload content of them talking about everything. What you now need to do is not just observe it in a haze of "Content devouring mode", rather observe it critically, not letting your ego get attached to it. Note the things that sound wise and disregard the things that sound like bs.
I totally understand why this advice is not very good for this subreddit, because majority of people really lack the ability to think for themselves. I'm not saying I am somehow better, I also lack the ability think for myself often, but I acknowledge it. You could be really fucking stupid and still be a "Red pilled guy". They found out this subreddit when their filters were open, from a breakup or another dramatic incident in their life. Now, when they have recovered some power in their life there is no such state of distress in their lives and they have closed their filters in their brains for new opinions. What I want is, keep your filters open. Keep your eyes open, observe life and soak everything like a sponge through this filter and implement everything the filter lets through. Your filter may be faulty at start but do not worry, the more information you consume your filter will adjust and be more precise detecting what information is and isn't bullshit. Don't just take the first opinion and assume it is correct.
dkdoga 4y ago
I dont respect females opinion or thoughts, we already know their behaviors, people probably disliked it because of this.
We simply dont care about whatever dumb thing goes through their heads since they are creatures with 0 self awareness and not to be taken seriously.
Actions speaks louder than words, there is no knowledge to gain by listening to females.
Also it feels like being cucked listening to females fucking other guys.
8380atgmaildotcom 4y ago
Watch what they do not what they say 100%.
They record themselves talking about dumb shit like they normally do into a form of a podcast where they generate revenue by having retards like this guy say "we should appreciate others perspectives". They just laughing to the bank. Literally the first thing they have is an ad
terambino 4y ago
It's not the same tribe-alpha-beta post like every other one in here I will give you that, but I expected more.
Protagoras said the man is the measure of all things. One man comes to Spain from Africa and says it's cold. The other one comes from Norway and says it's hot. They are BOTH right. It is each man's contextual life information that determines not only one's sensory perceptions but ALSO one's desires.
Now I will say something that will go against the conditioning of 9 out of 10 "contributors" in this sub - what you expect from AND can offer to a woman highly depends on how you been brought up in your life. Social dynamics are not static. The same strategy CANNOT be applied to every human being, or you are severely limiting your pool of people with whom you may connect. It cannot be denied that there are feminist, soft-spoken, non-leading, not-seeking-competition males who managed to form great long-lasting relationships with women OR get more intimate action than any of the people in this sub. It also cannot be denied that the very character opposites (as promoted by this sub) have managed to achieve the same.
So for the last few men in this sub who still got a few brain cells left, I will say this. Do not blindly follow the TRP crowd mentality. Do not blindly follow the TBP crowd mentality. They both appear right to their respective followers. Both usually don't use any research to prove their talking points and therefore are entirely subjective. Your circumstances and what you desire from life are unique to you and ONLY you.
Cruudes 4y ago
You are right, let me grab onto that "meetup of different civilizations discussing the weather"-metaphor.
The point of this post was, let's say you are the person who has these two visitors from Spain and Norway and you hear them making these statements. Instead of making your own opinion, you observe the situation from everyone's perspective that's involved. You see that the man from Norway has a tolerance to cold weather, the man from Spain has an adversity to coldness and you can't tell the temperature for shits without any equipment. You then conclude that you are unable to make any assumptions from the temperature, whilst before you probably would've jumped on board to the person with more social status. Or you could still do that, but it would be coming from a different place. Anyways great addition, let me know if I missed your point completely.
INNASKILLZ2K18 4y ago
Hold on. So, because one guy says one thing, and another says another thing, you suddenly don't have the ability to think for yourself?
If one guys says it's cold, and another guy says it's hot, I'm going to say it's whatever the fuck I feel it is.
fdsafdasfdsafds 4y ago
Too right. I'm done following secondhand thoughts, feelings and opinions of others. Your direct experience is the only truth.
INNASKILLZ2K18 4y ago
Yeah. I see something blue in the OP. 'Consider what everyone else wants and think and cater to it'.
I mean, you could literally go on forever determining what everyone wants and their perspectives and trying to change yourself to suit them.
RedPill is about determining what YOU want/think/feel.
Cruudes 4y ago
You never had the ability to tell the temperature accurately, it's a rationalization by your brain
Dimenzije90 4y ago
100%... this sub has gone far from its original point. It was always about seeing world for what it is and using TRP tools to get what you want from it (pussy, power, succes...) Most people will say this sub is all about pussy. And yes majority is but with your rise in sexual market you also rise in other things in your life as a man. And having critical viewpoint is very important in building your character. Obviously blue pill is fucking BS but following everything Red Pilled guys say is stupid . Everyone has different life situations that you have to adapt to. Make the best of your life for you not because some guy on this sub said that his way is the right way.
RequinSoupe 4y ago
I'm gonna add another 100% to yours - it seems like most men here obsess over the pussy aspect. That's not the fuckin' point in life. We should develop ourselves, learn, study, grow, hold frame and the rest will come, including so many women you'll need a snorkel.
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whitewolf___ 4y ago
Solid post brother. Ultimately, red-pill is about seeing the world for what it is, and trying to become the best version of yourself, whatever that may be. You can get lost in technicalities- did I kino escalate right? Did I hold frame correctly? Etc.
But the details don’t matter in the end. Do you have a mission you are working towards? Am I a little bit better today than I was yesterday? These are the questions we should be asking ourselves. And as men, we should be leaders and positive role models for our families, friends, and women.
Sepean 4y ago
This sub is not for exposing people to different points of views. Most of them are utterly useless for developing masculine identity and red pill sexual strategy, and that is what this sub is for.
Not filling your head with garbage isn’t being afraid of critical thinking, it is valueing your time and energy.
You need to read the sidebar. Lots of alphas have no leadership skills, lots of great leaders aren’t alpha. Do you think asshole Chad is a great leader? So you think mr. Management looking-for-win-win gets-the-best-out-of-his-team members is a cocky pussy slayer?
Cruudes 4y ago
Your example is flawed, you're basing your assumptions on people based on two (2) attributes. Those attributes do contribute to attraction in women but there's so much more shit you need to take into account. The world isn't one dimensional.
This is literally from someone on this community.
https://www.woujo.com/blog/2018/4/26/how-to-hold-frame
cakefmateus 4y ago
My dude, good luck trying to put perspective into guys here. I made a post about not trusting everyone who writes here, some guys showed talking about how everything here is right and shit.
Cruudes 4y ago
You can't help everyone, only those willing to be helped
Westerncaesar 4y ago
So essentially this post is about acknowledgement of others frames and if you like something from that frame, after viewing it in a critical light, then add it to yours.
Isn't that just empathy?
I always try and strive to be a benevolent leader. But it's my belief that a leader doesn't need followers or permission. He leads himself to the best outcome HE wants and others might benefit from it. There's a really good post on MRP about leading a wife that doesn't want to be led. I do what's best for me at any moment in time and I do what I think is Right and is congruent with my plan and my vision of myself. Other people's viewpoint of my words or actions are not my concern unless I act out in irrational or destructive ways, But even then I know I have done it and know that I have to gather myself and keep going. Nobody gives not 1 single fuck about me or anything I have to say. my goal is self mastery and success, Nobody is going to give me a handout in either 1 of those goals so there frame means absolutely nothing to me. Every man here should be in it for themselves and in it to win.
Cruudes 4y ago
Empathy does not require for you to add anything in. Empathy means the ability to see things from other people's view. To feel what they feel. This is not about feeling.
INNASKILLZ2K18 4y ago
'Beta' style males chop , change and adapt their perspective to account for other's perspectives. A strong male knows how to make others consider HIS perspective.
To me, listening to women's perspective and views on dating is the reason at least three quarters of guys on this sub were lead to Red Pill.
And being a leader is not an essential quality of an Alpha. It's a great trait, yes. If you want to become one, by all means it's not a bad thing. Many times holding onto the idea that Alpha means leader, is just part of the blue pill that wants to believe women still want the honorable, considerate, moralistic guy who considers everyone's perspective. They would rather a man who knows how to get his, regardless of what others perceive.
Cruudes 4y ago
Let's take money. If you want (desire) money, your goal is to have more money. You will never acquire an abundance of it. Only when you let go of the desire to have it and focus on what other people need you will get it.
INNASKILLZ2K18 4y ago
Makes me think of the old saying 'watch what she does, not what she says'. That often will give you the best perspectives on what they want.
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pieroit 4y ago
Totally agree. Herd mentality and taking principles literally is just dumb. It's a way to simplify the world, avoid reasoning about complex things and just sacrifice truth in order to preserve a mediocre mind sanity.
I love here on TRP the discussion about evolutionary psychology, the invitation to go for your mission and continuously improve yourself.
What I don't like is the anger, the politics, the harsh misogynistic vein.
There is no better way to understand women than actually listen and talking to them. You have to know the biology and psychology behind it, have a frame to keep strong, and that is what TRP is for.
I love women, never saw them as objects or dangerous beasts, I'm quite convinced they live their own class of problems in life. They look lost and fragile to me, as much as men. TRP would be so much better by dropping the rage and focusing on strategy.
Good post man
Pussyshack 4y ago
The way I read this is you just wrote this wall of text to tell us that we should start thinking like women.
What happened to this sub???
Cruudes 4y ago
You read it wrong.
If you read it correctly the main point is that you need to start thinking of other people's viewpoints. Take the best stuff from there, discard the things you don't find useful and adjust some things based on your viewpoints. But like I said, not everyone is able to do this since it requires critical thinking and they'll be forever left with using the principles they have learned and not able to adjust and be nimble.
Pussyshack 4y ago
Enlighten me....
So who's other viewpoint should I be considering on a sexual strategy sub for men?
Cruudes 4y ago
This post is flaired "Building Power", It's necessarily not about sexual strategy but the ability for other people recognize you as a leader since a leader always has the best interest of the most weak member in mind.
Pussyshack 4y ago
Then why did you post it on a sexual strategy sub for men? What's the relevance?
Cruudes 4y ago
When other people recognize you as a leader women will also recognize you as a leader = more pussy. It was implied.
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