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An Alpha Asshole is a stone. His shape and properties are easily determined and do not change depending on his surroundings. You might not like a particular stone. It might not fit your particular stone criteria. However your assessment will in no way impact the stone. You can yell at, bite or kick the stone. The stone will remain unchanged.

In contrast, a Beta Nice Guy is a moist turd. Beta Turds take the shape of whatever stepped on them last. Their entire existence is contextual. When a woman goes on a date with a Beta Turd all of her questions will be met with attempts to conform to her expectations. At no point will she be able to get a solid definitive response from mushy turd man because Beta Turds are conformists.

This dynamic creates a crisis of authenticity. Not only is it difficult for people to definitively know Beta Turd but Beta Turds don't even know who they are themselves. Let's use Paul Elam a man who I personally believe to be the Creme De La Creme of Beta Turd as an example. Paul Elam spent years writing articles discussing masculinity and the uncaring manipulative nature of women. Then one day a pretty blond girl named Cassie Jay gave Paul Elam a call about a Red Pill Movie. Next thing you know, Paul Elam has thrown masculinity out the window and is crying on camera begging women to sympathize with his problems. So the question is: Who really is Paul Elam? What does he really believe? Does he think that women are manipulative whores incapable of empathy? Or does he believe that women should empathize with men's issues? He's taken both positions. Which one does he actually believe? Does he even know? All we can say conclusively is that Paul Elam is a mushy turd.

There is something inherently unpleasant and disconcerting about mushy Turd Men. The unnerving feeling is felt strongest by women who are naturally more suspicious then men due to their biological aversion to risk. Imagine you are a woman and your Beta husband hands you a dozen roses while telling you he loves you. Now did he really do it out of love or did he do it to manipulate you into sex? Is he apologizing for something? Is he going to ask for something in return? The inherent anxiety of unknowability destroys the feeling those roses could have created. Now imagine that you are a woman and that your uncaring Alpha jerkboy boyfriend just gave you a dozen roses. He isn't manipulating you into sex because he can cock blast your ladyhole whenever he wants. He isn't trying to influence your emotions because he doesn't give a fuck how you feel. He did it because he wanted to. When an Alpha gives roses they are roses. When a Beta gives roses they are a pretext.

The Manosphere mythos is that Alpha Jerkboys give women tingles. Discussion of the female perspective usually ends there, before the pity party starts playing it's greatest hits. The truth is far darker and more interesting. Women know themselves to be emotional impulsive and a danger to themselves. They know that without a man holding them accountable they are capable of anything from bingeing uncontrollably like a wild dog to giving themselves a Britney Spears haircut. The problem is that a Beta Turd can't tell a woman no. Like a child he is powerless to stop a woman from doing anything that she wants because he needs her approval to function. A Beta can't stop a woman from becoming her worst version of herself. Women know this and hate them for it.

Beta males are unreliable, undependable and unknowable. They'll tell you all about their fitness and diet regimen to gain your approval then they'll skip the gym and eat a burrito when you are safely out of sight. They'll let their wives and daughters slide deeper and deeper into degeneracy without saying a word. For a Beta it's easier to watch wifey choke on strange dick and daughter cam-whore herself then protect the dignity of the family with a firm No!

There is nothing noble or enviable about Beta Turds. They are not men. Men have thoughts, convictions and values that are held fast and only change for good reason. Betas are nothing more then what their environment tells them to be. Beta Turds deserve only suffering. Only suffering can teach a Beta to stand up for himself and say: No! Until you learn that lesson the stomping will go on indefinitely.

If you're looking for someone to harden you from beta turd to alpha asshole via difficult workout and difficult conversations shoot me a PM.

[-] _do_not_read_this_ 21 Points 4 months ago

Curious who Paul Elam is, but not curious enought to bother to look it up.

Something struck me when I read it a few years back, and it stuck with me, which you get into here: It's not a man's job to follow a woman into degeneracy, it's the man's job to prevent her from doing it.

They'll let their wives and daughters slide deeper and deeper into degeneracy without saying a word.

And it's not White Knighting to do so. I think it's strong willed to say "No" when the woman you're seeing starts going down that path. I can't honestly believe that women truly enjoy some of the degenerate shit that's out there. I think they do it just for the attention it gives them, or to check the man's boundaries. Dudes will put up with a *lot* of shit if they're getting laid.

I know sexually some guys get into the degrading stuff, and who doesn't like administering a good spanking or spitting on a girl's face every now and then. But the few times a woman asked me to go beyond my edge, I said "No" and it was never brought up again.

I don't know my point, I guess it's that the man has to lead in every interaction, and just because you're getting laid doesn't mean that stops.

[-] TFWnoLTR 9 Points 4 months ago

I had an LTR that got out of hand because I allowed that kind of shit even though I didn't really want it. At first I thought "if it makes her happy, then it's worth it". Then, once I had allowed her to push my boundaries, shit spun out of control fast.

First she started getting demanding about sex, making it feel more like a chore than something I enjoyed doing regularly. Then she bought various toys and bullshit sex games to "spice things up" and got indignant when I said I wasn't interested, like ita my fault she spent that money without asking me if I wanted it.

It got so bad I eventually got straight up tired of sex with her, even when it was good, which was becoming more rare with her trying harder and harder to be "dirty". Then she got really insecure and would try and guilt me into sex and go shaming me to mutual friends about not fucking her enough.

Worst sexual relationship of my life. Never again.

[-] _do_not_read_this_ 8 Points 4 months ago

"if it makes her happy, then it's worth it"

That used to be my default sex philosophy, and also somewhat in non-sex situation ("If she wants to go see this concert, what do I care, let's go.")

Red Pill though has started me asking, "what's in it for me"? and if the answer is solely "it makes her happy" then I start to question if it's something I want to do, inasmuch as I'm living my life for me, now. I'm not here to make someone else happy, that's their job. We can enjoy being together and doing stuff, but if she's not happy that's a "you" problem, not a "me" problem.

The one woman who pushed me sexually - she wanted to tie me up - literally said "you need to learn how to let go and not be in charge." I LOLd at that. Short version, she had many manly behavioral attributes that came from being married to a loser for 25 years and having to "be in charge" of her whole household. I don't need to battle for dominance in the sack with a woman, which she learned eventually.

[-] INNASKILLZ2K18 2 Points 4 months ago

Great reply. You're beginning to overcome codependency on an even deeper level.

The ironic thing is, the more we lead and only do what WE want then the more attractive we become. She's happy she has a leader.

I've learnt that I could change plans to suit her. But no matter how fun it is, she'll be disappointed. 'Somerhong is missing. You changed to suit me'.

And yes, of overall they aren't happy in life that is their responsibility. We are not here to rescue or save anyone.

[-] _do_not_read_this_ 2 Points 4 months ago


Funny thing is, now that I have this attitude I still want to do things to make my women happy, but it comes not from a "I must make sure you're happy all the time or I'll lose you" place, but from a "She's been a good girl lately, I want to reward her with something she likes", more paternalistic. I did something for one the other day, not something I would have done on my own (or could have, it was a thing her kids were doing at school), but I went with her it as a reward to her for beeing a good girl, and she loved having me there with her, I could tell. And because of that, I enjoyed it too.

She's happy she has a leader.

One I'm seeing now just says "I like letting you make all the decisions" when I even ask her something simple. Lets her (a) not have to be in charge like she is all week at work and with the kids; and (b) be a woman with a strong leader.

[-] himanshudash 2 Points 4 months ago

I instead searched for cassie jay , as OP described her as "pretty blonde" and you know what she is atmost a 6 out of 10. And nobody likes whinning men, I saw red pill documentary there were only bunch of whinning men .

[-] urbanfoh -5 Point 4 months ago

I don't know my point, I guess it's that the man has to lead in every interaction

Then you are being inconsistent with your message.

[-] _do_not_read_this_ 0 Points 4 months ago

I try to write in a more conversational tone, as if I'm speaking not typing.

[-] anotherchump99 20 Points 4 months ago

Nice post!

[-] Battagliare 10 Points 4 months ago

Reposting. Eww

[-] throwabcdaway4 8 Points 4 months ago

Thats a repost.

[-] autoeroticassfxation 5 Points 4 months ago

Pretty solid, but are AWLT? When I'm dating a woman I give her a massive leash to see what she'll do with it, if she can't handle her own autonomy I'm not going to spend the rest of my life babysitting her and keeping her entertained, and I sure as shit don't want her trying to put a tight leash on me.

[-] TurdBurgermcgee 3 Points 4 months ago

That roses analogy struck home and shined a new light on my relationships prior to finding red pill. Thanks! Great post.

[-] awakenedspirit1 2 Points 4 months ago

Back again. And still a great post. I know we sometimes use the terms blue pill and beta interchangeably. This is a great elucidation of why blue pill behavior is a turn off

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[-] INNASKILLZ2K18 2 Points 4 months ago

Good post.

To me, this stuff isn't about being the almighty 'Alpha', but about being a stronger human.

People pleasing, overly agreeable, no boundaries, passive, co dependent, approval seeking and validation seeking. Trying to be what you think everyone else wants. All that isn't healthy.

Strong, assertive, boundaries, sense of self, direct, non approval seeking or people pleasing, willing to take risks, polarizing. Outside of the mythical Alpha quest, these behaviours are strong and accessible for everyone.

Looking at why some of them are difficult for some guys allows them to gain deeper self awareness. They can working the underlying issues then change behaviour.

I believe so much of life is a sum total of how you behave. Don't be a bitch.

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[-] himanshudash 1 Point 4 months ago

"pretty blonde"

Cassie Jaye is atmost a 6 and nothing more . Get your fact correct

[-] GisforJumping 1 Point 4 months ago

A classic. Bravo.

[-] seemsonormal1979 1 Point 4 months ago

And the Sigma is a reptilian shape shifter that can adapt to any situation in the way that benefits him the most.

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[-] BigWeenus42 1 Point 4 months ago

Good stuff, any post that isn't complaining about wamen is a thumbs up from me.

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[-] panzaghor 0 Points 4 months ago

GLO always with his fire posts, the first rule of the happiness club is being true to oneself.