For lil bit of background check post and comment history
Summary: went to 2 dates with girl from store at mall, seems into me but still no sex
Body: Been trying cold approach for last few weeks at the gym's mall and more places when i see opportunities. I go straight after gym and start approaching, sometimes go inside stores and pull some bullshit on them like:
Me: How much?
Store worker: How much is what?
Me: How much for the whole store
Got my inspiration from Sasha Daygame, recommend watching his vids on youtube on direct approaching.
One of the first times i tried to pull this shit was a few weeks back where i decided to "warm up" a lil bit doing that, so i went to the first store i saw and there was this cute girl there. So she's down to keep the gag going and we start talking about random shit and she starts asking questions about me. That's when i realized she's hooked and was hitting on me ( or just giving me the green light to hit on her ) and so suddenly after letting her ask some more questions, there's an 'awkward silence' (shit-test) and she's looking to gauge my reaction so i stare into her right pupil calmly while half smiling, she immediately starts chasing so i figure i'd take her number so i tell her:
Me: Listen i gotta go bullshit some other store people, i'll take your number and we'll hang out sometime.
Her: Lights up and gives number while saying "so assertive"
We hug somewhat sexually (touching hands) and say cya later
3 days later i hit her up, very receptive so i play the usual text games [ 2/3 rule don't give her more than 2/3 of what she gives you ] ( pretty much smash her with the time it takes me to answer because i'm genuinely busy )
We make a date to play pool. The day of she tries to change the plans, so i let her but not supplicatingly, but more in a "taking her idea and making it mine cuz i'm the captain" way
So we go to the beach in the afternoon close to sunset. She wasn't letting me escalate at the beach itself, but when we went to the car a not too long after we got there she looked at me with puppy eyes and luckily some romantic music was on the radio so i went for the kiss, pulled back first ( not a long kiss for me, 1st in a long time ).
Invited her back to my place, wouldn't come and preferred to hangout some other place so we went to some park chatted a little then dropped her off at her house, told her "come here" for kiss and again she said "how assertive i like it".
A week later i text her, she's very receptive[ double texts me while i still didn't answer ] and we make a 2nd date, she doesn't even ask where.
Day of date: I show up at her house without confirming the date since i figured what's the point she's pretty down? Big mistake, she asked for 1 hour to get ready on the phone [ shit test? ], I dunno if she figured out I was at her house probably not. So i keep cool and allow it:
Her: Listen you didn't call and i fell asleep you should've called
Me: Maybe next time I'll remind you, if there'll be a next time
Her: What? [dread/competition anxiety/just realizing that I DON'T NEED HER]
Me: Take it lightly, how much time do you need?
Her: 1 hour
Me: 1 hour?? fine
I pick her up and she mentions that a week waiting for a text from me was too long for her but she understands i have stuff to do.[create value by scarcity]
So i park at the billiards place and went to a nearby mall to get social [ billiards place was practically empty ] and hit on some girls or just talk to store girls
I arrive at her place a few minutes late i point her to kiss me on the cheek and as we arrive at the billiards place we exit the car and she stops in front of me and starts making out with me, tongue and all [first in years again, still pull away first]
We shoot some balls, have a blast with a lil bit of kino and we split the bill, exit the pool place, make out a lil bit at the parking garage and decide to go for sushi as we're both hungry.
After we split the bill we head to my car where i suggest we go to my place to which she refuses so i keep cool and don't push it. [ Perhaps she has 3-date rule? Since from what i can tell she's definitely into me sexually ]
I drop her off at home and half jokingly mention that I'll text her "within the next 7 days". Haven't decided when to text her yet, as i don't wanna seem too eager. It's still not 100% natural to me and sometimes i have to make conscious effort to not be a beta but I'm getting there.
All the while I'm still getting contact details from other girls, while still not other dates.
Lessons Learned:
- DGAF
- Learn from mistakes
- Put Consistent effort in what you want to achieve
- You won't always apply TRP principles just by knowing them, but knowing them is key to spotting the instances where you should apply them [ Read TRP ]
- Keep the frame without giving the impression that you're trying to do so; you're the prize, you're the leader, you call the shots, and you don't NEED her
Should i have confirmed the date? Seems kinda needy, is there a non needy way to confirm? For the first date i called her and told her I'd be late, didn't want to use the same trick for the 2nd date.
Thanks for reading would love criticism
OracleofFl 5y ago
I would text her in just a few days, not the week and you should close this time. It seems like she is using anti-slut defense measures like a three date rule on you, but you are in.
MagnumBurrito 5y ago
Should have pushed to go back to your place. she probably didn't want to seem easy by accepting the first ask.
"Lets go to my place and listen to that band I was telling you about." - "No."
"One more drink at my place. Picked up a super expensive bottle of red wine... It was 4 dollars." - "Fine. Just one drink." - "Yeah one drink. I'm kicking you out after."
majani 5y ago
Your game is tight, but in my experience, if a man is asking for advice in the middle of picking up, oneitis is likely building up. Try to up your total prospects. Once you're talking to 10 girls at the same time and whittling down the list, you'll find that you're no longer faking high value. You truly won't have time to focus on one girl since you have to juggle 10 girls in the small time off work/studies/hobbies that you have.
fishinatot 5y ago
tbh haven't fucked in years and looking to seal the deal just to make the progress. yeah she's a nice girl but i've had my trauma before, like almost everyone else on here
majani 5y ago
You're setting yourself up for failure by zeroing in on her before you've even fucked. Either you will put her off with eventual neediness, or you will end up fucking, but she will quickly assume a dominant position in the relationship since you'll be afraid of losing the only pussy you've got. Remember your plate theory https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=661FpEeDb7g
fishinatot 5y ago
i'm totally prepared to let her fall
majani 5y ago
If you say so. Report back in the coming weeks with a final field report.
DeadliftRx 5y ago
I dropped my LTR and now have 4 or 5 plates that I've picked up in the last month and one of them actually got frustrated that I chose to go to the gym instead of coming to her party. The answer was a clear and resounding "No, I didn't get where I am by deserting my priorities." She came back around after a week, they always do.
My issue with the OP's response is how this worthless sack of holes told him she'd need an hour. Nah. Maybe your time isn't as valuable as mine, but 60 minutes wasted is 60 minutes I don't have time to give. Have you ever met a girl at a restaurant or some public place? You don't just wait. Bring a damn book - something useful, see the sidebar for starters - and read. It doesn't matter if she shows up, because you had some free time and decided to learn something. If she's 5-10 minutes late, close the book and leave, go continue reading if that's your true goal but do not leave yourself open to allowing these holes any false sense of power over you. Me, personally, I don't care if she says she's coming because now I am leaving. Leave her on read, ignored, and only respond a few days later if she begs (even then realize she's fucking nuts). These sluts get to fill in the cracks in your life, but they are not and shoulder never be the foundation.
Good luck.
Estrogenoxygen 5y ago
Sounds like you're doing good with her and this is solid game.
It's possibly you tried to escalate too quickly. Spend some more time in comfort possibly.
How are you asking her to go back to your place? If you're making it sound too needy "lets go back and hang out babe" it's gonna ring her alarm bells. Come up with something smooth, you want to show her your (insert something interesting you would genuinely want to show someone)
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Also don't ask TELL and you may/ may not have lost some points by allowing her to change the first date venue. I feel like that was a shit-test.
fishinatot 5y ago
she's escalating on me, i'm trying to save it for the bedroom
i asked her "shall we go to my place?" but i feel like stating "we're going to my place" is a bit too direct
actually now that i think about it she gave me the perfect excuse "there's this movie i didn't watch" while we were at the sushi place. we had lots of comfort time at the sushi place the way i see it. and yeah i saw many things here as shit tests but perhaps i didn't fail them OR the attraction is pretty high
innominating 5y ago
Your fumbling at the finish line. Create plausible deniability and your in. “Let’s grab sushi and watch music videos (insert anything to give her an excuse) at my place.”
Also, overall you’re being too aloof and definitely too technical. Tease her more.
Estrogenoxygen 5y ago
"Shall we go to my place?" Instead "Let's go to my place i have to show you xyz, it'll only take a minute"
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DeGENZerate 5y ago
That was your time to close you listened to what she said literally and not actions/emotions. Now she thinks you're a gay PUA. And so do we
millioneuroextreme 5y ago
How would you suggest closing her when she said “no I’m not going to your place.”
DeadliftRx 5y ago
Are you two in public? Thank her for her application, maybe suggest you will call her if you decide she is worthy of the job, and leave. Leave her behind. I'm cruel but women aren't stupid, they know men want sex and you shouldn't let them use you for their agendas. This is our world.
If she's in your car, "You're dismissed" is a favorite line of mine.
Besides. Never take these holes to your place. Now crazy knows where you live.
DeGENZerate 5y ago
I would suggest growing some balls and escelating
millioneuroextreme 5y ago
It’s strong ASD, he did escalate
fishinatot 5y ago
hey i can escalate more, seriously, but i think it's best to save it for the bedroom
fishinatot 5y ago
it's ok to make mistakes, as long as i learn from them
millioneuroextreme 5y ago
Can’t escalate in the bedroom if she doesn’t even want to go there.