I am pretty new to this, but god is it liberating to see life through this lense.
I see red pill examples every day, i see it in my family of origin aswell.It makes so much sense now.
Why is this a thing society doesn't want to talk about?These concepts would actually help men to make better informed decisions about theyr lifes.
It just clicked to me these days that before swallowing the red pill, i actually had no ideea about the female nature.
Can you remember that stereotypical "joke", with a picture with an opened book who had only white pages, and under it was written "what men know about women"?
I see it as an insult now, and sometimes i feel that society does want to hold us men in the dark regarding the real female nature. That "book" could be easyly filled with red pill concepts that could explain at least the basics of the female modus operandi.
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But why? what is the point in this?Why so much deception,manipulation, and lying by omission?Why is this community "quarantined" and all feminist bullshit ideologies allowed so in the open?
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kagetsuki32 5y ago
Simply put, society want to reduce the population and traditionalism is bad for this.
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es20490446e 5y ago
Because most people believe that women aren't malicious in nature.
MattyAnon Admin 5y ago
The world is half women, and their reasons for hiding the truth are simple: it's in their best interests to do so. Optimising their sexual and social strategy requires hiding their hypergamy. Men don't want to provide for sluts, women know this, so women pretend they are better than they are in order to secure special treatment and providership. If men knew that she was railed by the football team (for free) the previous week, they wouldn't be so willing to pay for her dinner in the hope that they may one day marry the super special snowflake of their dreams.
So that's the female side of things, makes sense so far. Keep men in the dark, keep them paying. Simple.
Now the male side, which is much more complicated.#
Men have a protective nature towards women (that is not reciprocated) because they carry our babies and we do not carry theirs. Most men are not going to be able to have sex "for free" because only top 10% men get that (there are very good biological reasons for this that are not relevant here). This means most men are forced to pay. This is wrapped up in words like "romance" and "marriage" and "being a good man" and "being a good provider" and "manning up" and many other manipulated phrases that mean little more than "pay for sex".
Men are prideful and don't like to admit they are being paid for what other men get for free, so they delude themselves into thinking that "this girl is special, she is worth it" and "I am investing in the relationship" and "I am building a future with her". It's much nicer to believe they are investing in a future than simply paying, even though the difference is negligible which the man is paying for something that will never repay, never give a return, and will evaporate the second the woman wants out (which statistically speaking she will, sooner or later).
So (beta) men delude themselves about the nature of women and society because it is nicer for them to believe in the disney fairytales than to admit the cold hard truth that they are simply being exploited.
Men (especially those in relationships) seek to downplay hypergamy: they don't want other men to believe women are unfaithful because they don't want their "investment" to cheat on them. They now have a vested interest in speaking well of women, and they have absolutely no incentive to make your life better. They are also being controlled - if their significant other hears him say anything that is not in the female best interests he'll face a tantrum, a mood chance, lack of sex, etc. All the usual ways women control men.
Just look at the abuse this place gets.... what man is going to publish the book you talk about, OP? Well actually a few have. And they are attacked and hated. And the more right they are the more vicious the attacks.
TL;DR: Society doesn't want you to know these things because society is driven by women and gullible betas.
byebyenarc 5y ago
Thank you for the very insightful answer. It sure is painfull when one starts to see through all the lies society forces upon us.
I was wondering , after reading the last sentence you wrote " society is driven by women and gullible betas. ",
How would you describe the hierarchy in our society between men and women?Is this hierarchy sepparated or mixed? I am interested who do you view is at the top ?
Where does the average male sit here?What about the average female?Is the average female above the average male till the wall hits her?Or is she still above him after the wall hits her?Is there a point when the average male has more worth than the average female?
I have a hard time and it is very painfull for me right now to accept male disposability, and i would like to know if there is a way a male can become more "important" than a woman, because i never felt till now that i was more important than any woman.
MattyAnon Admin 5y ago
Mixed hierarchy.
Most women get great rewards for doing much less than 50% of the work, creating much less than 50% of the value, and taking negligible life risks. Most suicides, homeless, people in jail.... most of the people at the bottom are male.
Women get cared for and super special privileges and support at every step of life. Men do not.
The only way to get more out than the average woman is to be in the top 5% of successful men AND not to lose your freedoms along the way. Sadly most men on their way to success legally themselves to someone who will put in less and take out more than he does.
Average men and below are at the bottom.
Average women WAY ahead of average men in terms of life opportunities, support, income, life derisking, etc. She can do whatever until she's 32 and marry a rich beta and she knows it. She always has that safety net.
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Still above after the wall, yes. She's either married or the government will support her. If she has a child, she has income support, mother support (which we pretend is child support), and no Western Government will ever see her starve or get cold.
No, none. Society enslaves average men and uses it to pay women who live longer, cost more in health care, earn less and spend more.
Ok, I hear ya. Sadly you're right.
But the problem is this: you care what others think. You value yourself by how society values you. You are allowing other's value system to influence your own, and you even apply this to your OWN value.
Fuck this. YOU are the most important person to YOU. Who cares if society sees you as important or worthless? Why should it affect YOUR view of yourself?
You've internalised the lie of equality, and are now upset that it's all a big fat lie. Sorry. But that's life.
And that's the point: it's YOUR life. It's YOUR job to value YOU. And you really can have an awesome life with great financial, emotional and sexual results. Just avoid jail, be successful and never give away your freedom. Women will respect you until you give away your freedom. The second you agree to exclusivity or give her power over you she'll lose respect for you. But if you keep all your freedoms and ignore the bullshit of society your life can be as awesome as you make it.
byebyenarc 5y ago
Thanks Matty, nobody analised life for me like this before, in a way that i could actually get it.
I want to give you gold for these comments but it seems i can't give gold on "theredpill". why is this?
Is any other way i can give you gold?
MattyAnon Admin 5y ago
Because we're quarantined
Please don't. All I ask is that you live the best most awesome life that you can.
byebyenarc 5y ago
Managed to give you gold on asktrp for another post ! To bad i couldn't give it for this post.I guess its the same thing.
Thanks again for making me understand some really complex stuff !
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Wolalbym 5y ago
Well its all in the bible nobody hides anything u choose what to believe by yourself lulz
helenvsgladys 5y ago
Don't think of it as some actual top-down conspiracy of people who are terrified you'll learn the truth they already know. It's just the result of a culture that pedestalizes woman and has slowly allowed them to gain power while enshrining their excuses for avoiding all responsibility into "common knowledge."
TheBadGoy 5y ago
http://gulagbound.com/38486/
redpillschool Admin 5y ago
I think you'll find some answers in our sidebar. Take some time to read it.
Notably Rollo's writings.
In short- the "mystery" has been party of the feminine strategy since the beginning. Heck- women have concealed ovulation making it difficult to determine who the father is. Mystery has been key to female's pluralistic mating strategy- alpha fucks / beta bucks.
Couple that with the need for women in early cultures (not to mention today!), it was easy for them to create social orders which prioritized females.
The disparity of sex drive between men and women have handed women a huge advantage on the playing field. Women get to choose, men get chosen. All else basically stems from here.
Read the side bar.
PS2Errol 5y ago
Men control comittment. Women control sex. Women can't get a relationship without the man agreeing.
byebyenarc 5y ago
thanks man, gonna read it all, and will also buy Rollos Books. I am done living in the dark, with no compass regarding female behaviour.
sebastianconcept 5y ago
The School of Frankfurt has envisioned the use of feminism to reingeneer people’s behavior decades ago. Like it of not, marxism is involved in modifying male behavior. You might like to read The Way of Man.
lvanden 5y ago
"modifying male behaviour" explain how?
nsfwalt900 5y ago
Reported for anti-semitism!
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HappyScribe 5y ago
There is money to be made, and power to be gained.
- Paint women as perpetual victims, letting them get an easier ride (positive discrimination, not paying for dates, political influence (it's my time!) etc)
- The dating industry is worth billions - restaurants, cards, flowers. Feminism is an industry and worth billions.
- It gives women more power in a relationship. Imagine two sides going to war, one has a map the other has to guess, who's going to end up winning?
- It's better for Billy Beta to be a cuck and raise someone else's child than the state.
byebyenarc 5y ago
then , did our ancestors actually live in a matriarchy without even knowing it? the only way i can see these red pill FACTS that i see now wich help me understand what the hell happend arround me so many years, is by shared knowledge from other men, thanks to the internet and the flow of information.
How did men fight this thing when there was no possibility of information sharing like today? i imagine there where so many men in the dark, and only a very select few where able to see the true female nature.
they are ruthless...and i don't know why, we should cooperate not fight, but it seems many women thrive on taking advantage of men.
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TheSelfGoverned 5y ago
We've only really had a matriarchy for maybe the last 10 years.
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For 1400 years at least the solution to thottery was a rock at a moderate velocity. There were also many historical examples of laws being divergent for men and women, playing off each gender's nature. I'm mostly versed in Islam's legal code, but it basically just codified a moderately progressive (for its time and place) collection of common sense. Much closer family units and communities also played a huge role in regulating both male and female behavior.
Society was largely run by men for the benefit of women, as maintaining a large and young population was key in staying viable as a group.
nsfwalt900 5y ago
Women being allowed to vote was the turning point of degradation. Our ancestors simply didn’t have to deal with this and if they did they nipped it in the but real quick.
SKRedPill 5y ago
Democracy appeals to a feminine mind very well, while hierarchy appeals to a masculine mind. So deeply embedded is gender and it's dynamics that it affects macroscopic behaviour and even international relationships in ways most people would hardly be able to accept.
In the US, essentially the politics has essentially become gender segregated because liberals and conservatives represent paradigms that appeal more to feminine and masculine minds respectively.
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ComplexProjection 5y ago
Nobody is hiding anything. Male and female sexual strategy are just 2 opposing forces, sometimes one is taking advantage, sometimes it is the other one. There is no master mind, no conspiration, no evil will. Just genes playing their role.
f_ckupsomecommas 5y ago
I know the feeling too. I feel so much more enlightened and less naive and foolish than I used to be. I’m also starting to pick up on every day examples. Once you realize the reality of a situation, it’s completely idiotic to turn a blind eye to it and choose to feel good about it if it’s a problem. The best step is to address the issue while not being afraid of the truth
byebyenarc 5y ago
thing is , i can't unsee it anymore and it is fantastic.1 year ago i couldn't understand what is happening and was confused all the time regarding female bahaviour.It was a mistery for me.
Now i see examples of red pill truth everywhere - in my family, among friends , in my ex girlfriend and her girl group and even on the street when i see couples how they talk and relate to each other.
It is truly freeing somehow because so many years women could understand me very easy but they where a mistery to me wich put me, as another user said , at a terrible disadvantage.I was like an open book to them, and they where like a book of misteries with white pages to me.
Even my own mother is typical AWALT.Not even a mother who should care and protect her offspring would share with him the female secret way of operating, even if later other females could take advantage of her own son if the son is not informed about said behaviour.
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spndxwra 5y ago
can confirm about mothers...
introduced a girl to my mother, them not knowing i was a red pill male... my mum saw inconsistencies in the girl i was dating ( as i did) but i didnt let on... quizzed my mother on her and her opinion, ALL i got was "be careful, wear protection" - no guidance, no insights, no helpful steering and suggestions about the real womens way..
just loose "help"
AWALT
Harryherrmann001 5y ago
Remember this till your last breath: your greatest enemy is the men you come across everyday and your ego that want to define things to fit his reality. All this come up from the narrative that's given by the so called men around you. Never ever listen to the men that are above you there advice is shitty and only have one major objective; to further their own personal agenda and course.
byebyenarc 5y ago
sorry but i don't get it, isn't red pill actually advice from most men who are older/more experienced/wiser than me?
because if it is, it is actually really good advice that helped me understand something that i had a really hard time understanding before i read about it.
and also , sharing this knowledge is a selfless act wich i respect alot.
daffy_duck233 5y ago
Whether you should turn advice into actions or not is up to you, but do rely on critical thinking rather than defaulting to some cynical assumptions.
Harryherrmann001 5y ago
That's their narcissism part working, the more you're able to get it right due to their input the more they feel fulfilled and uphold themselves as the men now. Helping you is their own way to pacify their ego and feel great about themselves. This is actual human psychology and reason why we do things either the outcome is positive or negative is not really relevant. The most important is learning from those men, but the more you learn from them and get it right the more they trust in their own ability to help others grows. That's how they fulfill their own ego and that's human psyche 101 without any bias.
lvanden 5y ago
But I bet you support trump
dankmonty 5y ago
Always one retard saying something like this.
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byebyenarc 5y ago
thanks, very detailed and complex answer !
are most of men in the elite class psychopaths? Would most of them actually do this to other men?
i am naive still regarding some of these concepts.
justtenofusinhere 5y ago
>Why is this a thing society doesn't want to talk about?
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You answered your own question.
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>These concepts would actually help men to make better informed decisions about theyr lifes.
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byebyenarc 5y ago
and why wouldn't this be a good ideea?
A well informed man, makes better decisions and has a clear mind without the burden of lets say divorce rape, and as such can create some goals, work for them, be more productive etc. because many men get satisfaction from reaching milestones in thery life plan, no mather what that is.Building a business , inventing something, climbing the corporate ladder, beeing a good athlete etc..
justtenofusinhere 5y ago
It's not a good idea for the same reason the rancher doesn't want his beef cattle to understand their situation.
byebyenarc 5y ago
makes sense...some painfull hard truths that i am starting to understand...
TheRealBrotherLouie 5y ago
Because we need beta bux to work for out companies. And you need to figure it out /discover the truth /become an initiate all by yourself
DownyGall 5y ago
Double the workforce, halve the cost.
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stedi-akk 5y ago
Because TRP shows bad side of women. And women are very valuable in the society (for obvious reasons).
No one is trying to hide the truth. They just ignore it, and hate everybody else who thinks in another way.
We should be proud of our knowledge.
byebyenarc 5y ago
i was wondering , do women also loose theyr value once they are no longer able to have babies?
i mean once they cannot have babies anymore, they are basically "weaker men" with a V .
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Nicolas0631 5y ago
Officially no. In practice a bit part of beauty and sex appeal that men see in women is age related. Women that are 40 or more loose most of their SMV because they can't bear children anymore.
They still keep some value as you can fuck them anyway, of course.
A few women are still great looking at 40. But only a few.
nsfwalt900 5y ago
Women are worse than men in almost every possible way but they still have value, even the old cat ladies. Their value is being a good example of what not to become.
stedi-akk 5y ago
I don't think so. Even if particular woman cannot have babies, she will still be highly desirable by men who seek sex or relationships.
byebyenarc 5y ago
not cool. and i guess she knows it.so having a V basically sets her for a life of privilege, even after the wall and after her baby making years are over. yeah ...read that before somewhere, pff, though pill to swollow...yeah...
and here i am trying to build my life and earn my worth in society, as a man.kinda sucks..
i am beeing honest when i tell you that since taking the red pill and understanding how men are treated as disposable, i actually feel inferior to women.
8380atgmaildotcom 5y ago
It's biology bro. Listen to the birds outside chirping. They ain't making random noises they tryna get pussy too. Even fruit flies. It's wired into our genes
stedi-akk 5y ago
You can't blame them or society. It is nature. Accept it.
kagetsuki32 5y ago
Fuck nature, science will crush it.
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Dominic_Farussi 5y ago
Victimizing, protecting and supporting women is the only way to ensure their survival due to their physical limitations compared to men, so this protective instinct and lack of will to see the truth is part of our DNA to ensure each women is protected and lasts long enough to breed.
It is not that people hide the truth, but rather that they believe the truth to be false.
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The fact of the matter is truth comes with perspective.
What was the truth in 1719? 1819? 1919? 2019?-
Perspective changes and so will truth as it is relative to time.
I believe our perspective today and our truth will soon align to red pill theory in the future. This moment in time where everything is misunderstood will end as more and more seek and find perspective.
Imperator_Red 5y ago
No, truth is truth. It does not change because our "perspective" changes.
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Truth to humans will always change, both in science/evolution and creationism/divine spirit.
Unless you are not human then you must abide to the truth of truth.
Saying things like truth does not change because of perspective does not apply to humans. It may apply to mother nature or a God however.
PierceTheEye 5y ago
I disagree. Truth has nothing to do with perception and everything to do with facts. Truth is that which is in accordance with facts and reality. You either realize the truth or you don't.
DownyGall 5y ago
The dates he gave are pretty poor too. Even the relative truth of 1719, 1819, and 1919 are much closer in practice than the truth in 2019. I don't buy relative truth either, but just using his argument, it's faulty.
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Truth to humans will always change, both in science/evolution and creationism/divine spirit.
Unless you are not human then you must abide to the truth of truth.
Saying things like truth does not change because of perspective does not apply to humans. It may apply to mother nature or a God however.
The_Noble_Lie 5y ago
The point is that abstractions of the mind are difficult to pin down as eternal truths
byebyenarc 5y ago
but female hypergamy was the same in -2000 ;100 ; 2019 and will be the same in 3009. It is not about perspective.
so this behaviour should be portrayed the same no matter the time we are in.
Before reading red pill i had no ideea about it.These concepts are FACT and should be thought in biology in school. I remember biology articles or national geographic documentaries about animals in wich the male is shown trying to court a female , and everything is analised and discussed scientifically - like the courtship habbits etc.But i never saw a documentary or read an article about the female counterpart - monkey branching, hypergamy, AFBB. Why?
The problem i have is that they don't talk about it as much as they should. Men are kept in the dark about this behaviour.
You see almost everyday situations on TV or in the Media, where men ar portrayed as Woman chasers (wich is theyr natural behaviour) but you never see hypergamy portrayed right in the open (wich is the females natural behaviour).
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Harryherrmann001 5y ago
Get this once and for all; men are kept in the dark by other men and individual ego. Once you can overcome your ego, you will see the world from a different perspective, though this is the most difficult thing to do unless you're psychopathic.
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Nature vs. Nurture
Is it only one or both?
I believe in both.
Wow_Much_Profit 5y ago
I don’t know what kind of fake red pill you take, but this idea of relative truth and relative moralism is how the world so messed up today.
Truth is absolute. It is what the world in its literal sense. Gravity was and always will be 9.8 m/s^2 in 1719, 1819, 1919, 2019, 3019 and beyond. Reality don’t bend to your perception.
You can believe you can fly as much as you want. The moment you step off a cliff you will plant your face straight down to the ground. This is you acting in defiance to the truth. However, if you recognize gravity, you now find a way to actually flying by inventing the airplane that obey physics law. This is acting according to the truth.
Nowadays people are so blind that they deny simple biology. They deny the difference between men and women. Men become women and women become men. They live with an idea that goes against all logic. No wonder some people call this current time we living in a clown world.
These red pills were once considered to be a fact. Now we have to discuss these ideas in the DMZ of the internet or feel the retaliation of all the blind people around us. However, it cannot be stop, for a simple reason that many of red pill ideas are the truth. People desire the truth for it is good and absolute.
Follow the truth and you shall be prosper. Defy the truth then the depth of hell you go.
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Truth to humans will always change, both in science/evolution and creationism/divine spirit.
Unless you are not human then you must abide to the truth of truth.
Saying things like truth does not change because of perspective does not apply to humans. It may apply to mother nature or a God however.
MacNulty 5y ago
Physics is science which is as close to objective truths we can have about the universe as there is. But nobody in their right mind equates physics with psychology, economy or social sciences. As far as human behavior is concerned objective truth may not matter, what matters is what is useful for survival (not only biologically but also memetically). Even animals in nature bluff all the time so lying is kind of inherent to nature. Perception does play a big role in how we behave. And sometimes truth depends on the context which completely eradicates the notion of absolute truth.
You might think that the "red pill" is truth, but at the end of the day it's just another framework that helps you navigate reality in a better way. It's not a theory of everything, unfortunately. It's just a view of life from the perspective of sexual dynamics.
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Agreed and the fact of what's useful for survival is often overlooked consciously.
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francisnedd 5y ago
I don't think it's hidden, I think these things are supposed to be self evident.
motivatedstogs 5y ago
Hey OP, post questions in /r/asktrp for future reference.
BunnyGunz 5y ago
The fundamental core of masculinity is individualism and independence (generally speaking), and for femininity, co-dependence.
Individualism and independence (emotional, intellectual, moral) is a direct threat to any person or group that seeks power and control.
That's the cliff notes version.
If women were the independent ones and we were the co-dependent ones (on average, generally speaking), things would be reversed. There would be a "war on girls," rather than boys. It's just how the cookie crumbled.
CensorThis111 5y ago
Divide and conquer is the oldest tenet of humanity's masters.
Dissonance among the genders is an easy way to divide any group of people.
The real red pill is learning who your masters are, and what they do and why they do it.
But if you're really just an ignorant fuckboi, I'll give you the spoiler to it all: it is done because spiritually immature humans crave power at any cost. Costs that you would need a lifetime of education and conditioning and probably mental disorders to fully understand.
Mattcwu 5y ago
Some of it is Cognitive Dissonance. People, including us block out information that is too painful to recognize.
someonesopinion6969 5y ago
Why? because women have the capacity to lie more easier because they think emotionally, where as we are male we think logically aka we think things through and like to do the right thing morally.
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Why do you think men are kept in the dark? You're just a slave to extract resources from, why would telling you the truth help you
Phaeer 5y ago
I think some of it stems from the red pill mentality that you can put people in boxes and predict their behavior which works perfectly fine in most cases.
Generalizations are great for many things in this world but at some point generalization of a group of people became politically incorrect which enabled people to easily dismiss any generalization you make to underline a point, no matter how many stats, facts and research you have, by making you look like a misogynist, racist or whatever else because you don't take those 0.1% outliers of the group into account when making a generalized statement.
byebyenarc 5y ago
luckly i am in eastern europe, the ideea of beeing politicaly correct is not so important here even though i see it spreading its tentacles slowly arround our youth.
Nicolas0631 5y ago
I think everywhere, the youth are the one most senssible to the mainstream ideas/propaganda.
SKRedPill 5y ago
Apart from whatever was commented here, there's this. Nearly everyone you see is extremely selfish and needy, with huge egos. They might talk of collective equality, but really, you think a normal person has any more room to see beyond themselves and their imperatives? At the most you are only a tool to be used and discarded. The workplace can make that clear to you.
It's just that in relationships, attraction and bonding sweetens the truth enough to hide your BS from yourself, but when that goes down, the truth is exposed in all it's glory.
There was a man who once said "Father, forgive them, for they know not what they're doing" - and he was right. People are stupid. These days, if you say Father, you might have a bunch of angry wounded female egos arguing whether God is a man or a woman, because of the huge negative field of energy they carry.
The media consists of a lot of mentally deranged characters - they know that BS sells, so they sell toxic stuff.
Besides, read the side bar.
nsfwalt900 5y ago
Who do you think controls western society? And why do you think they are against you. Don’t answer this question or you might get banned.
RealMcGonzo 5y ago
Since you're pretty new, a word of caution. They aren't just hiding it. They actively and aggressively suppress any and all knowledge. I am not kidding and I am not exaggerating.
When a typical guy starts learning and accepting RP, and seeing the effects - he wants to share this new knowledge that he found, show these new skills, share this new information that is not readily and widely available and accepted. Then he gets the shit smacked out of him.
Be cautious about whom you talk to about this stuff. If you want to see the effects, mention any RP truths out in the general Reddit community.
sanitypanacea 5y ago
We're gonna make it guys
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gaining abundance is rough man, I have 2 plates showing signs of breaking at the SAME DAMN TIME
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AWALT Bro. stop fighting the tide and float out there
0io- 5y ago
I think a lot of problem is "white knighting" by beta males. Universities used to be almost all male. I'm sure back in those days people talked honestly about women. As soon as they started admitting women, they started changing the curriculum and lectures to be "less offensive." And then, it gradually devolved to the situation we have today, where you can probably be thrown out of school for saying "I believe children should be raised by two parents, a man and a woman". Now everyone is expected to kowtow to a false religion, and there are numerous thought-crimes. If you say that on average, men are better coders than women, that opinion can probably get you expelled from school or fired from your job.
The pendulum will swing back at some point. People are getting fed up with the Thought Police and having to pretend to believe in blatant lies.
DemagogueTrump 5y ago
Because whether we like it or not, a culture of monogamy is good for society as a whole, even if it is to the detriment of the individual.
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But wouldn’t red pill knowledge lead to better monogamous relationships? It also doesn’t seem like monogamy is even encouraged nowadays.
Truedemocracy4 5y ago
Yes If applied correctly. It still means introducing dread, not being overly loving, going against wife’s wishes, etc which on the surface most can’t stomach
byebyenarc 5y ago
but fucking a bad boy and having his kid, and telling billy beta with wich she is in a relationship that he is the father is maintaining monogamy? but this is a farce , a scam. This is maintaining the appearance of monogamy while hypergamy is let loose, and all at the cost of the poor naive billy. doesn't billy have feelings to? what in the world, he is treated like he is completely expandable.
Nicolas0631 5y ago
The offspring that may become a chad tomorrow has much more value than Billy that already show he isn't top material.
On top of that is today only a few percent of cases. In many case Billy is aware that the child isn't his own but he still commit with a single mother.
In the end it is Billy that sell himself bad and don't protect his interrests.
Sonny_Luna 5y ago
What? Maybe pretending to be monogamous. But I reckon humans have never been monogamous. Not in any society ever. That's my supposition.
Truedemocracy4 5y ago
He didn’t say it’s our biological natural state.just that it advances society as a whole. I’d argue he’s right
MacNulty 5y ago
If humans still followed their biology instead of cultural programming we would still be apes fucking in caves.
ozaku7 5y ago
It's not that society is hiding it from you. You're simply too dumb to see it yourself.
The_Noble_Lie 5y ago
Its not about being dumb. The societal fabric that we grew up in becomes the background of a way of life. One's own societal constructs usually are harder to analyze than a foreign one. Psychedelics help here for bringing the analysis home, thus why they are smeared.
ozaku7 5y ago
Maybe it's just your failure to observe the world around you for what it is instead of leaving in your own world within your mind how you believe (or wish to believe) things are.
The_Noble_Lie 5y ago
That comment wasnt about me, it was a generality that usually applies to "westerners" (my experience but probably applies to all societies).
So chill out dude, youre most probably misunderstanding more people than just my very simple comment above
cupshadow 5y ago
It doesn't start with wishful thinking but what a whole society teaches you since birth. Why do you think it takes a trauma to bring men here? And even then, a lot them keep fumbling in the dark, hopelessly looking for an answer.
Don't you remind of Agent Smith, who keeps trying to get people back into the Matrix? It's a powerful force and everyone contributes to keep you plugged in. If it takes a huge amount of effort for the red pill initiate, imagine the power a lone guy will need to snap out of the system.
ozaku7 5y ago
You're all broken to believe that the system is against you while thats just how nature works. You are simply the group of men that the women don't want to procreate with. An outcry that you don't live in the age where there was a woman for every man who was shunned for making other choices as an individual with whom she wants to remain.
You are defective products that should be removed from the genepool.
cupshadow 5y ago
We don't agree how society works, not nature. That's the system. If anyone here denies biology, I have no idea what he is doing hanging around.
No everyone here wants to rewind the clock but there are rational reasons for wishing that.
The rest of your post is basically projecting.
ozaku7 5y ago
Well, society isn't a charity and it owes you nothing. You get what you deserve and if that is loneliness because you are at the bottom of the genepool, so be it? A woman either chooses to stay with you or leave you. What you want is a society that forced women to stay with their men when they would rather leave them if they could, if they don't want to stay with them in the first place. I would be rather alone than having a hostage at home that would be shunned by her entire environment for choosing her own will over that of society.
cupshadow 5y ago
You are taking me as someone else. I never said about being entitled to anything.