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menslaws.com | 203 Comments | submitted 5 months ago by M_Justice [Post Locked]
[-] CainPrice 211 Points 5 months ago

That's weird. The way you come into your gender and get comfortable with it is by going through puberty. You transform from a more sexless more androgynous version of yourself into a male or female human that's capable of reproduction.

This idea that by never experiencing being the sex you were born as, you can make some kind of purely mental decision about what you want to be based on what seems cool at the time is really silly. Especially when the end result of being trans isn't actually becoming the opposite sex, but just a chemically fucked up and mangled hybrid that's neither sex.

[-] tromix1 44 Points 5 months ago

So I decided to do some rummaging through the UCSF and stumbled onto "who" is behind this.

https://www.ucsfhealth.org/madeline.deutsch

https://www.bizjournals.com/sanfrancisco/news/2018/06/14/madeline-deutsch-helps-transgender-patients-social.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GAJZ4fwTuyc

Zero shocks imagined by me...

[-] TheImpossible1 26 Points 5 months ago

It's a woman. I'm also not surprised.

[-] tunsku 15 Points 5 months ago

I think he meant that she's jewish.

[-] Imperator_Red 7 Points 5 months ago

I don't think Deutsche is a Jewish name..

[-] TheImpossible1 6 Points 5 months ago

Oh. That old conspiracy.

[-] vandaalen 8 Points 5 months ago

It's a woman.

debatable

[-] Garathon 3 Points 5 months ago

"She" looks trans herself.

[-] Imperator_Red 2 Points 5 months ago

Playing God and remaking humans in her image.

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[-] throwlaca 8 Points 5 months ago

> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GAJZ4fwTuyc

What the fuck! did you guys see her face and expressions? how somebody clearly out of her mind is allowed to practice medicine? your country is fucked, people.

[-] bakamoney 38 Points 5 months ago

All of that at 8!

I would be Moonwalking around in Mars by now if everyone took me seriously...

[-] FereallyRed 15 Points 5 months ago

So much this.

Allowing people who have never driven a car to design highway systems. Carts before horses.

Puberty drives gender identity.

[-] Chaddeus_Rex 1 Point 5 months ago

That's like democracy almost, allow a person who has never trained to rule to rule a country! Makes perfect sense.

[-] SKRedPill 8 Points 5 months ago

I'm really grateful our bodies are there to ground us - otherwise the insanity of the mind would expand without limit. Already we're seeing what happens in a generation or two of trying to deny the physical.

[-] EdAnt 7 Points 5 months ago

"Silly" is not a strong enough word.

[-] [deleted] 7 Points 5 months ago

To me, that would be lucky to be in jail.

[-] aherrns 2 Points 5 months ago

Fuckin pure gold. Printscreening this.

[-] Zech4riah 0 Points 5 months ago

The article was so incredible so I had to do some fact checks. I consulted a friend of mine who is a doctor.

For example this is bullshit according to science/psychology:

That's weird. The way you come into your gender and get comfortable with it is by going through puberty. You transform from a more sexless more androgynous version of yourself into a male or female human that's capable of reproduction.

If the diagnosis is done carefully and the child is actually diagnosed to have gender dysphoria, it doesn't go away after the puberty but the key here is that the proper examination and diagnosis is done.

It scares me a bit how blind guys are here as long as the news are line with their ideology.

[-] CainPrice 7 Points 5 months ago

You can't properly diagnose an 8-year-old with gender dysphoria.

In between telling you he's a girl, an 8-year-old boy will also tell you he's a dragon, an astronaut, a superhero, a race car driver, all while picking his nose and not washing his hands after taking a dump.

An 8-year-old doesn't know what the difference between boys and girls are, what it's like to fill a gender role in society, what roles are expected of the child, has never felt romance or sexual attraction. If a child is telling you that it wants to be a boy or girl, or that it feels like a boy or girl, it's just telling you what sex seems cooler at the time.

It's asinine. Crazed ultra-liberal parents who insist that there's no such thing as girl toys or boy toys, girl behaviors or boy behaviors, girl clothes or boy clothes, who are 1000% in favor of abolishing gender roles and letting people be as masculine or feminine as they want regardless of their sex, as gay or straight as they want, who will tell you there's no such thing as boy stuff or girly stuff - will turn around and rush their boy off to a therapist to be diagnosed with gender dysphoria the second he does something girly...while out the other side of their mouth tell you that there's no such thing as girly behaviors and it's all just gender-neutral.

[-] Zech4riah 0 Points 5 months ago

Interesting you actually think you know these things better than an qualified physician (and my friend isn't biased towards left, don't worry).

You can't properly diagnose an 8-year-old with gender dysphoria.

What the fuck are you talking about? Ofc they know. And if you remember when you were back in the elementary school, you damn well knew what's the difference between boys and girls. Atleast I did and so did most of my class mates.

An 8-year-old doesn't know what the difference between boys and girls are

It doesn't matter what the parents think or try to do. Professionals are doing diagnosis separate from the wishes of the parents.

It's asinine. Crazed ultra-liberal parents who insist that there's no such thing as girl toys or boy toys, girl behaviors or boy behaviors, girl clothes or boy clothes, who are 1000% in favor of abolishing gender roles and letting people be as masculine or feminine as they want regardless of their sex, as gay or straight as they want, who will tell you there's no such thing as boy stuff or girly stuff - will turn around and rush their boy off to a therapist to be diagnosed with gender dysphoria the second he does something girly...while out the other side of their mouth tell you that there's no such thing as girly behaviors and it's all just gender-neutral.

Now, if you want to make a case about doctors being biased and experimenting because parents want so, we can argue about that but you have burden of proof on that claim.

If you wanna argue about retarded pro-transgender parents, we can talk about how stupid and possibly damaging that is for a child but that's not what I'm arguing here about and I think we would agree on this so end of story on this subject.

Just for recap what I'm talking about here that you don't get lost again: Unlike you stated, a healthy child has his/her gender identity formed already before he/she hits puberty.

Stop being delusional and dig into facts.

EDIT: First hit on the google so you don't have to dig it yourself: https://www.healthychildren.org/English/ages-stages/gradeschool/Pages/Gender-Identity-and-Gender-Confusion-In-Children.aspx

[-] ProofPear6 -34 Point 5 months ago

Especially when the end result of being trans isn't actually becoming the opposite sex, but just a chemically fucked up and mangled hybrid that's neither sex

This is why they are starting young. Kids have minds that are male or female from birth, just see the side bar for that documentary, but their bodies, minus genitalia, don't start turning male or female until puberty. So if you are a person with a male mind but a female body or vice versa it makes sense to start the transition before puberty.

That fucked up hybrid only happens when you start after puberty, which just happens to be almost all trans people today because we want to wait until they are adults before we let them choose.

EDIT: To the people downvoting, would you be so kind as to explain what you would like these scientists to do instead

[-] [deleted] 47 Points 5 months ago

There is something mentally wrong with you. There is no kid on Earth, no matter how smart, that is able to make permanent life choices while being under the age of 10. There is such thing as phases bro. Ill be the first to admit that I was a little feminine while young, as I had a shit ton of sisters growing up (5). I became mature quickly while in puberty. I am lucky I was not born 2005+, they would've transitioned me faster than id be able to say no

[-] bsutansalt 23 Points 5 months ago

These are the same people who think small kids can consent to sex. They're nuts and should be isolated away from polite society. Only a few short generations ago they'd be locked up in padded rooms and medicated.

[-] Imperator_Red 7 Points 5 months ago

It's sad because I used to be pretty libertarian. Very much into freedom of thought and debate. Over the last 5 or so years I've become much more authoritarian because of the insanity of the left. How insane do you have to be to make me go from being basically a libertarian to thinking that my political enemies need to be liquidated in 5 short years?

[-] xenigala -10 Point 5 months ago

But did you insist that you were actually a girl? Did you dream about growing up into a beautiful woman and having babies with a man?

There is a big difference between being a bit feminine as a boy and being trans.

The trans phenomena just highlights how hormones matter and there are real differences between men and women.

[-] ProofPear6 -24 Point 5 months ago

I don't think you understand what these scientists are doing or what I am saying. menslaws.com obviously doesn't understand what these scientists are doing. So to be clear:

It is biological fact that the mind and body develop independently of each other. Most people are born with a mind and body that match in terms of their gender. They have a male mind and a male body or they have a female mind and a female body. However, a small minority are born where the two do not match.

It is possible to change the gender of the body using hormonal treatments but only if you haven't gone through puberty. If you start the hormones after puberty you turn into a weird hybrid.

The scientists do not want to force young children to choose their gender at a really young age where they might make the wrong choice. Therefore, they are hoping to find a way to delay the onset of puberty so that the child has the option to choose when they are say 13 or 14 or 15 instead.

Simply put, these scientists are doing exactly what you want them to do. And I happen to agree with their actions.

[-] [deleted] 24 Points 5 months ago

I cant take anyone supporting the gender change of a 13 year old boy seriously. You are deranged. there are 13 year old emos out there who want to be vampires, are they going to surgically attach a cape to those kids backs aswell? WTF is wrong with you, rethink your argument

[-] ImminentFulfillment 14 Points 5 months ago

It is biological fact that the mind and body develop independently of each other.

You are spouting Marxist propaganda, my poor deluded friend.

Have you considered that perhaps Bill Nye isn't the best source for "science" anymore?

[-] ProofPear6 -1 Point 5 months ago

I have no idea what Bill Nye has to say on the subject but in the scientific literature they talk about congenital adrenal hyperplasia, persistent müllerian duct syndrome, androgen insensitivity syndrome, and 5-alpha-reductase deficiency, among others.

Gender is determined by hormones during development in the womb, and sometimes things go wrong.

[-] ImminentFulfillment 9 Points 5 months ago

What scientific literature might that be exactly? Please produce as many detailed cites as you can.

Also, answer the following for your own edification:

Who studied it?

Who wrote it?

Who funded it?

All these things matter, my leetle friend.

[-] Imperator_Red 7 Points 5 months ago

It is biological fact that the mind and body develop independently of each other.

This is a meaningless statement. I truly do not know what it means. We have DNA in our cells. That DNA gives instructions to our bodies on how to grow and develop as we age. These developments take place at different times from the moment of conception through and past puberty. The brain is just one more body part that develops according to instructions from DNA. Every single part of you "develops independently" based on instructions from your genetic blueprints.

The scientists do not want to force young children to choose their gender at a really young age where they might make the wrong choice.

You. Do. Not. Choose. Your. Gender. Period.

[-] ProofPear6 -3 Point 5 months ago

That DNA gives instructions to our bodies on how to grow and develop as we age.

This is a simplification of what actually happens. A more scientifically accurate description (but still simplified) is that the DNA determines development of certain organs and structures in the body that in turn create hormones. It is those hormones that are ultimately the determining factor in driving your bodies phenotype.

The problem occurs when the DNA drives the creation of a brain of one gender but due to mistakes the body develops into something else. For example, a person with XY chromosomes and androgen insensitivity syndrome will have a male brain, but can have a fully female body.

You. Do. Not. Choose. Your. Gender. Period.

I simplified the language a little and it would have been more accurate to talk about choosing your bodies phenotype. But I think I was clear enough for anyone willing to listen.

It is your brain that determines what you feel and therefore the gender you identify as. But your body does not have to match this identity. Nature fucks up a lot, and gender is no exception to this.

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[-] neragera 4 Points 5 months ago

Claiming that the mind and body develop independently of each other is the biggest load of shit that has ever been spouted. Androgens released into the brain in the womb begin to differentiate the male an female brains.

Either you or your source is full of shit. It’s a bullshit tactic to give some undue credence to all this early transition nonsense.

[-] cristianwonder 3 Points 5 months ago

This shit is worse than pedophilia and you know what they say should happen to pedos

[-] FereallyRed 2 Points 5 months ago

It's actually good for the pedos... They're keeping humans prepubescent that can be over the age of consent.

18 year old hairless titless innocent little girls that are legal to fuck.

Smooth undeveloped feminine twinky little boys you can assfuck legally.

The fringes are unravelling. Creating a massively vulnerable population.

The mind and body DO NOT develop independently. Observer/research bias. One affects the other, incontrovertably.

The chromosomal girl that never develops female sexual characteristics will never know what it's like to be a girl.

I must have skipped class when they handed out the crazy pills.

[-] CainPrice 8 Points 5 months ago

Kids who are 8 years old have no idea what sex is. I forget where I read it, but there was a married Red Pill guy who said that his son thought the difference between boys and girls was whether you draw long eyelashes on the smiley face.

Kids don't know what it means to be a boy, or a girl, or trans, or what the consequences are for deviating from social norms for their sex, or what it's going to be like seeing doctors their whole life and taking hormone suppressors and growing up androgynous when everybody else isn't - they are kids. They don't have the faculties to make intelligent decisions about anything. This is why they can't vote, drink alcohol, drive a car, or even be left home alone, and why their parents make every single major decision for them. But when it comes to deciding to be trans, then we leave this decision up to 8-year-old children?

This isn't love for kids. This is an agenda to support sexual deviancy.

If my 8-year-old son starts to play with dolls, wear princess dresses, and prefer the color pink, and I decided that this is inappropriate and that he should adhere to conventionally masculine standards - I would be ripped apart as an abusive monster who's poisoning my son with toxic masculinity. Everyone knows that I'm supposed to be raising sons as gender-neutral as possible just in case they want to be women one day!

But if my 8-year-old son, who has no idea what sex is or what the difference between boys and girls is, starts to play with dolls and wear princess dresses and prefer pink things, and I decide that this must mean he's a girl's mind trapped in a boy's body, and I rush him to doctors to be fed hormone suppressors so that he stops developing properly and will never turn into a boy or girl without future medical intervention...for some reason this far more extreme, invasive, and life-changing action isn't abusive. It's heroic?

[-] Imperator_Red 2 Points 5 months ago

scientists "scientists"

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[-] cristianwonder 2 Points 5 months ago

Kids have minds that are male or female from birth

Straight up lie

[-] 99ThotsBtMyBtchAint1 128 Points 5 months ago

When I was a child I behaved so feminine to point where I would frequently cross dress including make up, played with dolls inside all day, and would tell my parents I wanted to be "pretty like the other girls". I had the mentality of a girl and it didn't help that my mother condoned it. In school all my teachers insisted I was homosexual at the very least, and I was constantly told I was. The only one who saw me as a male and didn't challenge my sexuality was my father. This went on until I was 11.

Well my father was right. I wasn't homosexual, and I never have been. Turns out I'm 100% straight and with a typical male mind, and I never actually felt that I was supposed to be born a female either. Albeit weird, it was definitely just a phase (my guess is because I was isolated in a dangerous country at the time and the few other children I was able to spend time with were all female).

If I'd been allowed to have a sex-change at that age I might have done it, not because I felt like a woman, I didn't, but because basically everyone except my father told me I was, and that shit is confusing when you're too young to think for yourself.

[-] OneRedSock 21 Points 5 months ago

Apparently I use to play with dolls and doll houses like it was nobodies business. I have one faint memory that is like a little picture in my mind of a dollhouse, but I don't remember any of that shit. It wasn't until later that my mom and brother mentioned it.

Honestly, boys and girls will both play around with a wide range of toys that will fall into the other's "traditional" toy category; but that doesn't mean they are now the opposite gender. Just because a girl wears jeans and wants to climb trees doesn't mean she wants to eat the vag or get a dick sewed on; vice versa for boys.

This transgender situation is opening a sort of pandora's box and we're going to rue the day when society accepts physical -- hormone-blocking medication and surgery -- responses to a psychological problem.

[-] Trentrocity 7 Points 5 months ago

I was the same way. I always played with my sister's Barbies. When I look back though, I remember that I was only ever interested in them because of their mechanical function. I liked to make the knee bend to hear the clicks, was fascinated with the way the head swiveled, etc. I.e. - I played with girl toys, but with a boy's brain. I think it used to concern my parents though. I think that's the crux of the issue. Parents used to shrug this stuff off, and the kids turned out normal. Now, they're getting hormone blockers at the first sign of being feminine. Crazy.

[-] Imperator_Red 6 Points 5 months ago

Dude my sister had a phase where she would insist she was a boy. My parents would be like no you're not. And she would say yes I am. Then they'd be like um... ok whatever. It wasn't a big deal. It wasn't even a concerning thing. Kids just latch on to ideas sometimes for no reason.

[-] OneRedSock 3 Points 5 months ago

Yeah, that reminds me of one guy's response that made me laugh: when he was 5 he pretended to be a T-Rex for like a year; but that doesn't mean he should get corrective surgery to look like a T-Rex or now sexually identifies as a T-Rex.

[-] Fede10204 3 Points 5 months ago

I read a psychological article the other day where it said that the ecaxt same thing. Our age will be seen as one of the the darkest in medical history. We're altering children's bodies without questioning if we should. And in 20 or so years we will have a part of the human population that will ask us why we did this to them

[-] Proto_Sigma 1 Point 5 months ago

I have a vivid memory of treating dolls like action figures in pre-school. I was making Barbie and Ken fight and eventually ended up slamming their crotches together furiously after they had torn off each others clothes. The chaperone was giving me a really weird look.

[-] SKRedPill 15 Points 5 months ago

Reason number god only knows why men should lift and at least be very physically active when young... lifting would boost testosterone enough that all these issues are thrown out of the window.

Ok, for the guy down below who clearly didn't get it - sports and physical activity is essential for brain development of male children. It sets the stage for things to come. You don't get to heavy lifting until your bones have finished growing (17-18), but calisthenics, sprints, stretches, basic MA, sports and functional strength all matter. And more importantly it's what it does to your mind that's the most important thing.

As a kid, I was drawn to cars and gadgets and figuring out how things work, and books. And sports. Well also the video games, because I had the hand eye co-ordination for it. Being an only son, I never had any girly stuff to deal with. There's a neighbor's kid who's not two yet and he wants sports, figures out every button in his dad's car and loves physical games and roughhousing. I had another neighbor with a baby girl and their very energy is so different - I never knew girls under 2 loved the mirror, petting baby dolls to sleep, or their own photos so much. That girl just loved dance before she was old enough to talk, and now it might well become her career.

It's just primal.

As a kid, I always knew females were different right from the day I was old enough to figure out that I had a penis and they didn't (like 2-3). Now kids are very imitative and will imitate whatever you show them, but even there the way they pick it up is distinctly different between boys and girls.

So much for all the nonsense spouted by those that are neither male nor female and therefore have no idea what it's really like to be physically born with real gender - or their supporters who are too dumb to spout any vocabulary beyond "social conditioning"

[-] StrangerInTheAlpss 12 Points 5 months ago

lol @ thinking that a boy should "lift" when he is 8-11, and also lmao at thinking playing sports at that age will build eneough muscle to noticably increase tesosterone, and lmao at thinking that an increase in testosterone would stop him from going through this phase. Gay guys are on average more muscular than straight guys because there is more pressure for them to be buff. Youre talking out of your ass like most of TRP lol

[-] frooschnate 6 Points 5 months ago

Try again without having to add lol at the end

[-] Imperator_Red 4 Points 5 months ago

Not seeing where he said 8-11 year olds should lift. They should definitely be physically active and play sports though. It helps to develop your muscles, hand eye coordination, teamwork, and you know... not being a pussy. I bet you're one of those 20 year old dudes that quietly slinks away whenever someone breaks out a football or baseball because daddy never taught you how to play catch. Sorry man.

Gay guys are on average more muscular than straight guys because there is more pressure for them to be buff.

LOL no. There is a subset of the gay community that is super into fitness and lifting, but your average gay guy is a limp wristed effeminate fag.

[-] throwlaca 2 Points 5 months ago

A boy shoudn't lift but sure as hell he should exercise. My kid exercise a lot (swimming, climbing, etc.) and the difference with other kids that dont do it is huge.

[-] 900_year_old_vampire 1 Point 5 months ago

thats around the age that i got my first set of dumbells and started lifting. by the time i hit middle school i was noticeably more muscular than a lot of my peers, had 6 pack abs, etc. by the time you hit high school at 14, everyone who isnt a total faggot lifts weights and plays sports. lol @ thinking that boys shouldnt be physically active during puberty

[-] StrangerInTheAlpss 4 Points 5 months ago

8-11 is before puberty, if you were were noticeably stronger than your 6th grade peers it was because of genetics lol

[-] 900_year_old_vampire 2 Points 5 months ago

boys can build muscle or become fat at that age.. earlier too. plus its also about building good habits. i dont think you will find very many people who literally think boys shouldnt exercise

[-] StrangerInTheAlpss 1 Point 5 months ago

I just think the redpill notion of lifting being so important is silly. Since when has lifting weights become the end all be all of fitness.. I think general fitness that comes from playing sports is much more important. Maybe I feel like this because I am a large guy naturally so even though my lifts are complete garbage I am still perceived as strong

[-] 900_year_old_vampire 2 Points 5 months ago

"i just think the redpill notion of lifting being so important is silly"

gotcha.

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[-] Trentrocity 0 Points 5 months ago

Someone needs to add a link to the sidebar that explains the importance of lifting, specifically. I've seen it explained pretty well in the past, but I have no idea where it went.

[-] Imperator_Red 1 Point 5 months ago

Can someone actually be this stupid...?

[-] Imperator_Red 2 Points 5 months ago

You don't get to heavy lifting until your bones have finished growing (17-18)

You can defintely start younger than this. Not 8-11 like that retard said but anytime in teens is fine. Any serious high school athlete lifts heavy.

[-] CainPrice 15 Points 5 months ago

It's all blurring together now.

Society has been at war to abolish any and all gender roles and any and all standards of behavior for any gender. So it's okay for boys to wear dresses and play with dolls - that's not girl behavior, it's just clothes and toys. And it's okay for girls to play sports and have monster truck toys - that's just generic gender-neutral behavior, too, and not necessarily masculine.

And sure, that's fine. The push is that it's completely okay to be a feminine man, or a masculine woman. It's even okay to be gay.

But now we have this trans-push. I don't know how these crazies think we're supposed to tell the difference? What's the difference between an 8-year-old boy who's just kind of feminine and likes dolls, an 8-year-old boy who's born gay, and an 8-year-old boy who's actually a girl in the wrong body and needs trans surgery? You use the same benchmarks for all three of these. We look for boys who are acting "girly" - while out the other side of our mouths, we declare that there's no such thing as girly and it's all just gender-neutral. Then chemically neuter our kids when they pick an allegedly gender-neutral behavior that goes with the opposite sex.

Is it not okay to be a feminine man any more? Is it not okay to be gay any more? Now, if you're any of those things, are you actually trans? And we leave all of this up to 8-year-old children who tell us what they want to be?

[-] SKRedPill 2 Points 5 months ago

The thing I don't get is that why are humans so determined to try and oppose nature's plan for them? As we can clearly see, they simply aren't sane or enlightened enough to handle the power of unlimited choice.
Well this country was once a society where smoking was considered healthy and high class and breast feeding was considered low class - I guess it has always been like that.

[-] largepaycheckaddict 4 Points 5 months ago

As a kid I personally didn’t like roughhousing with other boys aside from one on one wrestling with my best friends. I hated football and contact sports. Instead of doing that typical boy stuff I preferred doing arts and crafts with the girls or sitting and talking with girls instead of playing sports. as I got older though I got into baseball and skateboarding. Likewise there were the tomboy girls who played football with the boys at recess who grow up to be stereotypical straight women.

I also liked to play dress up. Not going full drag but had this weird fascination with wearing my moms high heels.

Kids are just exploring and learning what they like and don’t like. Some kids like something weird for a little bit and eventually grow out of it. How many of us here loved our Pokémon cards or beanie babies in our elementary school days, only to think of that stuff as “gay” by the time we’re in grade 6?

Raising your kid “gender neutral” is fucking nonsense. Most parents just let their kid fuck around and explore to see what they like. They don’t force a sexuality on them or convince them they’re gay or straight cause they like sports or playing with girls over boys.

There’s an agenda at play here with all this gender neutral shit. They know they can subvert our cultural traditions cause so many of us hold resentment for our boomer forbears toxic materialistic world views.

[-] vandaalen 112 Points 5 months ago

It's now officially easier in the USA to temper with childrens' hormones, than getting testosterone supplementation as a male suffering from hypogonadism.

[-] Anthero1776 21 Points 5 months ago

Yep. Even in low range most dr don’t give a damn. Female wanting to become a man, here is your testosterone no problem. Women with estrogen issues here is your estrogen over the counter. Man with low T, your fucked and raped no insurance coverage or regular dr will treat you unless you pay $3k a year for a male clinic.

[-] 0io- 7 Points 5 months ago

I wonder if you can send a woman in to get testosterone for you just like a sixteen year old has a homeless guy buy him beer?

[-] Aggressive_Beta 6 Points 5 months ago

Is it true that estrogen replacement therapy can be done Over the Counter?

[-] Locko_O 6 Points 5 months ago

just identify as a women and say you want to become a man

[-] 0io- 8 Points 5 months ago

I was wondering if that would actually work. If you claim to be a F to M transsexual, do they challenge you and call you out or just give you your script for testosterone?

[-] Nergaal -5 Point 5 months ago

In some sense it makes sense. Low T means lower aggressivity, and except with few individuals, this is usually a losing bet. It's nice to have CEOs and Olympians with high T, but everybody else in the middle tier is more desirable from the point of view of the whole society. Just like religious people are desirable over atheists at population-level analysis.

[-] AwakenedSovereign 12 Points 5 months ago

Fuck outta here with your warped bullshit.

What's more desirable for society has not a goddamn thing to do with a human person's sovereign right to not be poisoned, deceived and oppressed.

[-] Nergaal -3 Point 5 months ago

Everybody has their rights. But if everybody in society would double up their T, there would be more violent crimes, and more ruthless CEOs. Doesn't matter if it is a right or not.

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[-] S3VENx 4 Points 5 months ago

lower t makes sense? what are you some tranny gender queer cis male?

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[-] Nergaal 1 Point 5 months ago

I remember reading some actual studies that link lower rates of war in the western world to females pissing estrogen into the tapwater from their birth control pill. There are other factors that are probably more important like lower lead usage in fuels, but I suspect things like high rate of infertility is probably linked at least in part to high exposure to estrogen.

[-] Nergaal 1 Point 5 months ago

I guess some people here at TRP have a hard time putting themselves into the shoes of their adversaries. The government has other priorities from an average Joe, but ESPECIALLY from a RP Joe.

[-] scissor_me_timbers00 19 Points 5 months ago

Damn that’s a good point. Hadn’t thought about how much worse this looks when compared to grown men unable to legally get testosterone unless in the ultra low range.

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[-] vandaalen 2 Points 5 months ago

In lots of places, there are ‘anti-aging clinics’ that will write a testosterone prescription to anyone who pays. There are also multiple clinics that will write you a prescription online, all you have to do is get a blood test from whatever is local.

ORLY? Bring the good news to all the guys in r.testosterone who struggle to find a doctor.

[-] TheImpossible1 106 Points 5 months ago

Let's be honest, it's always boys.

They teach them from a young age that girls are superior to get this exact result.

[-] raarts 10 Points 5 months ago

Actually twice as many girls as boys experience gender dysphoria or ROGD (Rapid Onset Gender Dysphoria). It's a social contagion.

[-] TheImpossible1 20 Points 5 months ago

Yet when you check the numbers, there are far more male to female transgenders.

[-] whats_the_deal22 11 Points 5 months ago

Psycho mothers who would rather see their boy change into a girl but certainly not the other way around.

[-] redpillschool 5 Points 5 months ago

Girls are more heavily influenced by pop culture...

[-] SKRedPill 80 Points 5 months ago

The gender war became much worse once the LGBTs instead of just keeping their ways to themselves, decided to have a say in normal people's lives as well and impose their ideas on mainstream society. That's one reason why psychology seems so bizarre now - it's all slanted to appease them, and is probably written by them up there as well.

Psychology is increasingly trying to divorce itself from the physical, but mind and body are connected - you cannot ignore the physical. Right now your body's the only thing putting a limiter on your mind's insanity from crossing its limits. Freedom without awareness will lead to destructive insanity.

[-] SailorAground 49 Points 5 months ago

The hardcore conservatives said it was a slippery slope to allow gays to marry and nobody believe them. I work we had. I really want this crazy bullshit to stop.

[-] scissor_me_timbers00 43 Points 5 months ago

Yeah because the lunatic left, which is now the mainstream left (don’t forget, trans kids are being pushed on Netflix, mainstream broadcasting and publications like NBC and NatGeo) are addicted to the moral crusade. It’s how they build an identity in this post religious world. They’re trying to manufacture and LARP all these new civil rights movements.

In other words, once gay marriage was solved, they would have to find another “cause” to satiate their psyche’s need to avoid feeling the weight of nihilism and feeling like the “middle children of history” (fight club quote). They need to feel like protagonists in some narrative of History. Which is why they need racism and nazis to be everywhere too. It’s an attempt to solve the gaping hole in their psyche.

[-] SailorAground 12 Points 5 months ago

So you're saying this is all being pushed by the media and Marxists? So who owns the media companies?

[-] scissor_me_timbers00 19 Points 5 months ago

It’s being pushed by The Cathedral which is the groupthink of Progressive orthodoxy (or cultural marxism) and the collection of institutions which dispense this quasi morality to the masses. Essentially a modern priestly caste, i.e. media and journalism, Hollywood, academia establishment, k-12, much of gov bureaucracy, marketing and HR departments, Silicon Valley big tech, etc.

It’s not a top down puppeteered conspiracy although sometimes there is localized coordination. It’s mostly a hivemind of libtards who subscribe to this ideology.

[-] raarts 4 Points 5 months ago

People who make money from outrage clickbait.

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[-] redpill77 5 Points 5 months ago

wow, I never thought of it that way.

[-] Imperator_Red 24 Points 5 months ago

Gay people just want to live their lives unmolested. Stop discriminating against them. They're regular people just like you and me. Live and let live. You won't even notice.

Gay people just want to march through the streets in outrageous costumes to show their pride. You would understand this parade if you were gay. They've suffered centuries of oppression. If you don't want to see it just don't go. How is it hurting you?

Gay people just want to get married. Love is love. They need marriage for legal reasons like inheritance and hospital visits. How does it affect your marriage? Besides, the courts have already decided the issue so stop arguing. Don't you believe in the rule of law? Lol democracy? You make me laugh.

Gay people just want to adopt children. Better that a child have two gay loving parents than none at all. You'd rather these children be filling up the foster system? Priests molest children too. What? No priests are not repressed gays. You're really intolerant.

Gay people just want to be represented in pop culture. Every movie and show should have a gay character. How would you feel if you never saw yourself represented in TV and movies? Just shut up. Turn off the TV if you don't like it.

The gay movement includes transsexuals now. No, it's not a mental illness, and don't even think about saying it is publicly. If you do you can kiss your job goodbye, you fucking NAZI.

Use my preferred pronoun and bake me a gay cake or I'll sue you and ruin your life. Hate has no place in our society. Oh and pay for my sex change operation. Haha no you don't have a choice... you pay taxes don't you?

Transexuals must use the women's bathroom. I don't care if your 12 year old daughter doesn't want to see a cock.

Transsexual women are actually the same gender as biological women. No you dummy - sex refers to genitals and gender refers to brain. No we didn't just make that up! Here look at this science. We scanned their brains and the readouts don't look like heterosexual males' brains. What are you talking about - of course we know exactly what these brain scans mean. Just look at this heat map picture of brain activity! Isn't that enough evidence for you, you science denier? If you don't want to date a transsexual, you are transphobic.

Give us your children. We're going to inject them with hormones that stop them from entering puberty.

[-] Look_Ma_Im_On_Reddit 18 Points 5 months ago

Sorry but transexuality is a mental illness. If someone was to wake up tomorrow and say their arm is not theirs, we wouldn't lop it off to appease them, we'd tell them they were crazy.

[-] Res_hits 15 Points 5 months ago

I think a good analogy is eating disorders. Buying into someone's delusion that their the "wrong" gender is the same thing as agreeing with an anorexic that they're overweight.

[-] OneRedSock 1 Point 5 months ago

That's been 100% my exact same thought on the situation since the beginning. They're both body image issues. Use to be when people had poor body image issues, we tried to deal with it psychologically -- and there was success with psychological approaches to solving bulimia and anorexia.

But these days we go deeper and deeper into the physical roots with medication and surgery, and it's not good. We are toying with shit we don't fully understand and it's going to result in worse shit that we can't foresee.

It's all hubris.

[-] FereallyRed 6 Points 5 months ago

That's actually a thing.

Body integrity dysphoria

People self amputate.

[-] Look_Ma_Im_On_Reddit 11 Points 5 months ago

And treatment is handled by a psychiatrist, or a surgeon?

[-] FereallyRed 3 Points 5 months ago

I agree with you. Crossed wires in the brainpan. Both instances.

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[-] frooschnate 4 Points 5 months ago

Reading this makes me wanna smash my balls in a closet door

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[-] Mellow__Martian 0 Points 5 months ago

The gay movement includes transsexuals now. No, it's not a mental illness, and don't even think about saying it is publicly. If you do you can kiss your job goodbye, you fucking NAZI.

Use my preferred pronoun and bake me a gay cake or I'll sue you and ruin your life. Hate has no place in our society. Oh and pay for my sex change operation. Haha no you don't have a choice... you pay taxes don't you?

Transexuals must use the women's bathroom. I don't care if your 12 year old daughter doesn't want to see a cock.

Trans have a mental illness and so do you, you fucking freaks.

[-] Imperator_Red 1 Point 5 months ago

Haha why is that? For holding a position that 90% of the country held 15 years ago? How did we ever get by with so much mental illness?

[-] omen_tenebris 42 Points 5 months ago

American logic: you can't consent to sex, but can consent to have your dick cut off. *smfh* and they wonder why they're the laughing stock of the word

[-] Sirkisskindofman -30 Point 5 months ago

Spell check your shit. It costs nothing and your message gets taken seriously

[-] omen_tenebris 10 Points 5 months ago

alright. how many languages do you speak?

Also, can you point out what words i misspelled?

[-] Sirkisskindofman -22 Point 5 months ago

Ladies and gentlemen (salutes), I hope you enjoyed the show!

[-] MarcosDomingues 9 Points 5 months ago

If you take into account all the downvotes I don't think no one took yours seriously

[-] Sirkisskindofman 0 Points 5 months ago

Its ok. He already took the L from his last word. Besides, who actually cares about voting count? If we take what's written here in the sidebar as true, im good. My frame is still standing. He tried to insult my intelligence? Like i give af my dude. Call me pedantic, but if youre going to insult an entire country, try to at least not make any spelling mistakes. Isnt that politics 101? And please, no more downvotes. I think im going to cry if you frameless guys downvotes this comment too ????

[-] MarcosDomingues 0 Points 5 months ago

Yeah you must have a frame steel to even bother with a single spelling mistake and make all this text for nothing lol

[-] Sirkisskindofman 1 Point 5 months ago

Its the little things in life, nahmsayin?

[-] TigerXtrm 41 Points 5 months ago

This is downright child abuse. In the exact same ballpark as leaving a child in a hot car or dropkicking them down fifteen flights of stairs. How this is legal is completely beyond me.

[-] TheImpossible1 26 Points 5 months ago

It's legal because it benefits the female imperative.

[-] scissor_me_timbers00 12 Points 5 months ago

I actually don’t think it has anything to do with the female imperative. I think it’s just leftoids trying to feel more progressive than eachother until you get a holiness spiral resulting in outlandish shit like this because progressives love to push shit that makes them look hip and progressive.

[-] FreeRadical5 5 Points 5 months ago

It doesn't though, m2f trans which is the majority of them adds direct competition against biological women.

[-] Imperator_Red 5 Points 5 months ago

adds direct competition against biological women.

Time to cut back on the tranny porn dude.

[-] TheImpossible1 1 Point 5 months ago

No one would sleep with one.

It benefits the female imperative because it pushes the man = defective woman idea.

[-] FreeRadical5 2 Points 5 months ago

Actually there a lot of ppl that would. Trans porn and prostitution is really widespread already.

[-] TheImpossible1 5 Points 5 months ago

I'd rather stick a loaded gun in my mouth.

[-] Look_Ma_Im_On_Reddit 0 Points 5 months ago

except they can't reproduce

[-] alphabachelor 32 Points 5 months ago

Remember when this used to be child abuse?

[-] AllahHatesFags 7 Points 5 months ago

Now it's state-sanctioned child abuse and exploitation.

[-] Quo210 9 Points 5 months ago

State enforce trans-sexuality (o asexuality if it completely destroys them)

Oh Orwell, you predicted the abolishment of the orgasm, you were right.

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[-] Quo210 18 Points 5 months ago

So this is just catching on in this sub.

Cringe Anarchy spoke about it a lot. And all the clown world is offering (the islamization of europe, the spreading of the LGTB into the media sources, the demonization of men, whites, marriage, christianism and heterosexuality, etc.). A 41% Transsexual population attempt to suicide at some point in their lives - the highst % of any group.

The sub is under quarantine now, btw.

Beware of the radical left.

honkhonk

[-] lala_xyyz 1 Point 5 months ago

A 41% Transsexual population attempt to suicide at some point in their lives - the highst % of any group.

That's actually excellent news. Degenerate transsexuals eliminating themselves from the gene pool.

[-] frooschnate 0 Points 5 months ago

We have been on quarantine for months now. Shit was an empty ass threat.

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[-] TheImpossible1 19 Points 5 months ago

I really think this sub should branch out to things like this. The gender war that we're facing should be acknowledged.

Edit : -3? I guess people don't agree.

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[-] TheImpossible1 10 Points 5 months ago

You're not, but don't you see that this is yet another attack on men? They're just picking softer targets who can't fight back.

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[-] Imperator_Red 6 Points 5 months ago

I don't think I care enough to fight it.

This pretty much sums up the downfall of the west in one sentence. Good men just didn't care enough to fight against the homosexual agenda, the Marxist infiltration of academia and media, mass unchecked immigration, the expanding welfare state, and affirmative action.

Thanks for making it so clear how we got to where we are today.

[-] frooschnate 1 Point 5 months ago

I don’t blame you. Takes pretty big balls for a man to put others before himself.

[-] Your_Coke_Dealer 0 Points 5 months ago

And unless you decide never to have children, one day you may get a call from your child’s elementary school principal telling you that they think your child is transgender, they’re putting your child on hormone blockers, and CPS will be involved if you refuse.

[-] Imperator_Red 6 Points 5 months ago

There is a "culture" flair. OP should have flaired the post but regardless it is definitely a red pill topic.

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[-] boywonder200 11 Points 5 months ago

Not saying this is okay at all, but I am just going to drop some facts. This is shit that I have just learned recently from lecture so I'm pulling this all from my head so there might be some inconsistencies.

The American Medical Association and the Endocrine Society both support treatment of young children who display symptoms of or express verbally gender dysphoria. The supported treatment plan is treatment with a GnRH agonist, which causes a massive release of pituitary hormones that eventually overloads the hypothalamus, causing a sustained suppression of hypothalamic hormone secretions until the person reaches an appropriate age to determine the gender they desire to be (i.e. age 16-18).

Most girls hit puberty around 10 years of age, and most boys hit puberty around 12. A GnRH delays the hormone surge seen in puberty, preventing development of secondary sexual characteristics and the other developmental effects that would come with a surge in Estrogen/Testosterone.

So essentially you keep children a blank slate until they are mature enough to make a decision about their gender themselves, at which point you begin hormonal therapy that mimics puberty for their desired gender. Now that will have no effect on primary sex characteristics like having a cock and balls, but it will have an effect on your voice, hair patterns, body fat distribution, and other secondary characteristics that differ between males and females.

Now science aside, time to get to the politics. I get that there has become this large-scale feminization of men in Western society. However, in the case of trans children, I think the media is taking an extremely small part of the population and giving them a voice on the national stage, making it appear as if this is more common or wide spread. Not really that big of an issue or something I think TRP needs to cover.

[-] SailorAground 14 Points 5 months ago

Good God that's terrible. It'll be interesting to see the studies on the long term effects of being on hormone blockers for these kids. There's no way the end result is a positive one. Also, their hypothesis that these kids are "blank slates" is not supported by clinical and research literature which show distinctive cognitive differences between men and women prior to puberty.

I find it telling that Johns Hopkins and the Mayo Clinic, who helped develop the techniques of hormone replacement therapy and sexual reassignment surgery no longer practice or endorse these treatments.

[-] celtiberian666 11 Points 5 months ago

Not really that big of an issue or something I think TRP needs to cover.

It is still not widespread (thank god, otherwise the west would have already been turned into a smoldering ruin), but IT IS something TRP needs to cover. Children are highly impressionable and post-modern leftists parents and teachers are influencing children in fucked up ways. This is an integral part of the war on manhood and feminization of western men. Some of us are still engaged in trying to change this or at least slow the fall of the west, it is not so funny to "enjoy the decline" if in a decade some mohammed take your head off and make your wife a sex slave because the trans soldiers in your army couldn't hold the line...

[-] LatchNessMonster 0 Points 5 months ago

Youre against the feminization of men so that we will have better soldiers?

[-] Imperator_Red 7 Points 5 months ago

Is that wrong? It's one reason among many.

[-] Chaddeus_Rex 1 Point 5 months ago

Youre against the feminization of men so that we will have better soldiers?

Good soldiers means tougher men, because the preparation for war means extensive physical and mental training. It also makes men more appealing to women. Also, it makes society more efficient as the habits learned in preparation for war, will carry over nicely into the civilian world.

[-] LatchNessMonster 1 Point 5 months ago

I’d argue that you don’t have to be a tough man to be a disciplined soldier. But I don’t think in terms of toughening up guys so we can be used as cannon fodder. War has a time and place in society, sure. I have mad respect for those guys that choose to go into the military. And having tough men could very well mean survival. I just dislike the thought that my toughening Up benefits some fuckwad politician who’s gonna send me off to die. The idea that men should get hard so they can feed the military industrial complex, go off to war and then either die or come back hollow shells and live in misery seems somehow wrong to me. I know it’s a sticky subject because so many guys identify toughness with soldiers, but I think that idea should be tread very carefully.

[-] Chaddeus_Rex 2 Points 5 months ago

I’d argue that you don’t have to be a tough man to be a disciplined soldier

There is more to soldiering than discipline. The best soldier has the most discipline and ENDURANCE. Endurance is mostly discipline of the mind. The Navy Seals have a saying, when you feel tired that is your mind handicapping you at 40% of what you can do.

But I don’t think in terms of toughening up guys so we can be used as cannon fodder

Who said anything about being used as cannon fodder? in peace time its unlikely you'll go anywhere and get killed and you'll get amazing training for free.

Also, men are used as cannon fodder anyway, if not in war than in 'peaceful' society as scapegoats and are viewed as worthless anyway. So might as well get something worthwhile for your efforts.

I just dislike the thought that my toughening Up benefits some fuckwad politician who’s gonna send me off to die

Paying taxes and working for a corporation benefits some fuckwad who benefits off of you. Yet you still do it. Also, in peacetime you won't be sent off to die any time soon anyway.

come back hollow shells

In a militarized society, where war and death is viewed as a normal part of life and not as a 'tragedy', won't come back from war as an empty shell.

[-] Imperator_Red 8 Points 5 months ago

Except this entire write up rests on a ridiculous lie, that you can choose your gender (which was always a synonym for sex until the freak show left decided it wasn't like ten years ago).

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[-] boywonder200 1 Point 5 months ago

Well what makes it interesting is that they have done studies on men and women with gender dysphoria (i.e. men wanting to be female, women wanting to be male) prior to hormone treatment, and they similar differences in certain areas of the brain that are very similar to those seen between phenotypic men and phenotypic women.

There are some definite changes in the brain that have been noted in studies that occur right after birth that are based on being male or female. I think that in boys there is a small burst of LH/Testosterone that plays a role into proper male brain development. One would think that modulating this burst could possibly cause the gender dysphoria seen in these children (presence of excessive estrogens in water/diet, exposure to certain chemicals). At that point, how do you treat the child? If you let them grow normally, they are gonna have development in certain parts of the brain that are not congruent with their early development, possibly exacerbating their gender dysphoria. So do you just give them hormones of the opposite sex and hope that the brain develops in a way that minimizes the amount of developmental contradictions? IDK

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[-] boywonder200 1 Point 5 months ago

Dude, I totally agree with you. I don't think we should be nuking kids with hormones because their parents believe they expressed symptoms of gender dysphoria (my teacher literally listed boys playing with girl dolls as signs of gender dysphoria). Children are hugely impressionable and I do not think its fair that these parents allow their kids to make such a major change in their life.

I am just trying to see the logic behind the AMA's decision.

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[-] Chaddeus_Rex 1 Point 5 months ago

the person reaches an appropriate age to determine the gender they desire to be (i.e. age 16-18).

That makes no sense. How do they know/decide what gender they want to be??

I have read studies that socialization/broken families give rise to a greater proportion of gays/trannies than normal population. We see more broken families currently, thus more gays and trannies.

[-] ProofPear6 -3 Point 5 months ago

I tried to point this out in a comment and people went mad with the downvoting. Ugh.

[-] -Stormcrow- 8 Points 5 months ago

This is some Dr Mengele shit

[-] _A_L_3_X_ 7 Points 5 months ago

Typical first world Problem. The moment people don't have to worry about the next meal they start finding themselves new problems to solve. Same story as the carbon footprint, Social justice, gay rights, and so on.

[-] AllahHatesFags 6 Points 5 months ago

This is fucking child abuse and these people should be locked up for decades of hard time on federal sex trafficking and child abuse charges! Where the hell is Trump on this? Seriously this is some Mengele-level shit!

[-] BigWeenus42 5 Points 5 months ago

Yup, its officially official. The war on men has begun. Just smile and nod boys, the plane is going down. Be thankful you found the redpill.

[-] Zech4riah 4 Points 5 months ago

This is unbelievable. Is this really legit? Has anyone checked sources?

[-] Quo210 6 Points 5 months ago

It is legit and it's been going on for a couple of months. It started on Europe. There are whole schools dedicated to the cause right now and it's being promoted in social media.

Welcome to clown world!

https://imgur.com/uORyWe1

https://imgur.com/ZfMY8jB

[-] fromthebottom 5 Points 5 months ago

Oh no... 11 year old girls shouldn’t even wear makeup. But an 11 year old boy is celebrated for being a drag child.

[-] Imperator_Red 2 Points 5 months ago

Holy shit that second link is fucking horrifying. 17 kids at one school? Are we ready for the civil war to start yet?

[-] zetaconvex 4 Points 5 months ago

Cultural Marxism: the headlong rush into insanity.

[-] PS2Errol 4 Points 5 months ago

This is deviancy on a satanic scale.

[-] [deleted] 3 Points 5 months ago

ahh the good ol' days. back when seatbelts were bad, cigarettes were good, and children were children not transgender lab rats

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[-] GorgeousGamer99 2 Points 5 months ago

From the website:

Medical treatment may include administration of gonadotropin-releasing hormone agonists (GnRH-A). These hormones can safely suppress puberty by blocking the production of the principal sex hormones: estrogen and testosterone. Fully reversible, this treatment gives young people time to achieve greater self-awareness of their gender identification. If and when appropriate, our experts may administer cross-gender sex hormones.

No mention of age or how long such treatment would last. Searching the site shows no results for trials related to "gender", "dysphoria", or "trans". I don't personally know the long-term effects of delaying puberty onset, but I'd assume that if the process has already gone through trials that the risks are minimal. Either way, if a kid wants to and their parents allow it, who the hell cares?

[-] M_Justice 1 Point 5 months ago

The age is mentioned in the Mercury News article which interviewed the doctors performing the experiments. If a kid wants to have sex with an adult and the parents allow it, would you also not care? Isn't there an age of informed consent that should equally apply to trans operations. Just because a liberal or gay parent wants to push their personal beliefs on their children, shouldn't we at least wait until the children are adults and able to make rational decisions. Slippery slope

[-] GorgeousGamer99 1 Point 5 months ago

Not even remotely comparable to pedophelia, and this isn't an operation so it's not permanent. You're trying to push your own personal beliefs here anyway, don't be a hypocrite.

[-] RedPilledGodEmperor 2 Points 5 months ago

This is disgusting. Ridiculous how easy it is for kids to change gender, yet as a male in my mid 20s, if I wanted to get testosterone in 20-30 years, then I would have such a hard time.

[-] EdmondDaunts 2 Points 5 months ago

This shit is like crop circles. When a serious cattle disease appeared and people were prevented from going into farm fields they disappeared.

Come the next serious recession->rise of socialism->decline this will all be fringe again

[-] genX50 2 Points 5 months ago

Anyone ever see the film, The Skin I Live in? That could be what's next. That movie bothers me to this day. Wish I never saw it.

[-] blacklightsleaze 2 Points 5 months ago

How is the moment for young guys to enter a medical school and become transgender surgeons, they gonna cash fucking hard considering what is coming next 10-20 years.

[-] Dokkobro 2 Points 5 months ago

That is goddamn child abuse and they need to be thrown into the ocean.

[-] 5hubham 2 Points 5 months ago

Well the end is very close. They have finally destroyed what this society cherishes and cares for the most. How can they not see the destination where their sense of self righteous path leads to.

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[-] AwakenedSovereign 1 Point 5 months ago

If you think this is bad read about DEHP and Pthalatates.

[-] drkinferno72 1 Point 5 months ago

Well I identify as an apache attack helicopter, when's my transition?

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[-] yomo86 1 Point 5 months ago

Trans kids are like the talent contest kids, the beauty pageant kids, the olympics sports kids - we all know who is making the decisions.

[-] LordOscarTron -1 Point 5 months ago

I’m very interested in the results of this study. As far as I understand, these kids aren’t going through with a full sex change (which some are implying) but are delaying the years in which puberty occurs. If the results come out to be neutral, as in there is no significant negative effects to the patients(mentally and physically), this could be a good thing no? Or at the very least just a waste of money Ike spent nothing going through puberty. And like some of the comments are saying this kind of thing afflicts a very small portion of the population, so this is in general a non problem no matter how triggered by the media coverage of trans issues you are. However if negative results, this treated should be killed immediately.

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[-] MindTheFuture -10 Point 5 months ago

Utterly irrelevant. This is meant for the really fucking rare cases when a kid keeps insisting that he/she is a trans. Bunch of medical outliers - this doesn't affect 99% of population. But the topic keeps appearing as it makes for shocking headline. No, no-one is forcing this stuff to anyone.

[-] celtiberian666 8 Points 5 months ago

this doesn't affect 99% of population

I agree it does not, in a natural normal functioning society, that treats kids as they were born, in a way that just in the "fucking rare cases" the kid will beg to differ.

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really fucking rare cases when a kid keeps insisting that he/she is a trans

Kids are HIGHLY impressionable. They imitate what they see. They can be easily fooled.

In some countries kids are told they can be whatever they want. And some post-modernist left-wing parents that would prefer trans kids just influence them into beign so. It is highly fucked up. You live in Finland, you should probably already know what your sick neighbors are doing. That's why that sort of thing is a relevant topic here on TRP, this kind of gender ideology is part of the modern war on manhood.

[-] MindTheFuture 0 Points 5 months ago

What I've seen of the gender-neural and kids, is that the boys who like red and glitter, build an artillery of fire pink cannons where the glitter tells of magical power that makes the explosions strongest ever, while girls who get lots of cars as toys will tuck them to sleep in their little car-beds. Normal order of things is quite ingrained and resilient, who gives a shit if the toy artillery is red if that makes it cool for him. I'm quite convinced that most kids will grow up just fine. Were one disturbed by the margins, I wouldn't focus on cultural messages as an effective vector compared to enviromental factors, nutrition, amount of exercise, life habits etc. (=weak testosterone levels are not caused by social narratives)

[-] celtiberian666 1 Point 5 months ago

I'm quite convinced that most kids will grow up just fine.

They probably will, if you leave them to be! But that ain't the goal of the SJWs advocating for "gender-neutral" schools. Many of them are already defending that "trans childs" (any impressionable boy playing with glitter cannons hearing adults saying he is a girl and adopting that by mimic) should transition into the other gender, receiving hormones and new documents. It is just madness.

[-] MindTheFuture 2 Points 5 months ago

The kid who made magic-empowerd artillery was very adamant that he is a boy, doesn’t want to be a girl and all girl things are icky - expect the ones that he liked. A competitive kid who liked to wrestle and fight - and this is allowed in the yard of a progressive kindergarten. I don’t disagree with the notion that there is unnecessary push towards transitioning among that minority crowd, topic to itself, but on educational institutions and at large, however progressive the talk, it is assuring that they act on knowledge that banning rough play is damaging to development. Also, included ( recently re-introduced after decades of not having them) is aim of teaching values - bravery, persistence, etc. This in Finland - famous to mimic Swedish trends - if it hasn’t gone overboard here, it can’t be that bad in USA.

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[-] AllahHatesFags 3 Points 5 months ago

Wrong. This is going to be forced upon boys by their feminist single-mothers who hate anything male and want them to be girls.

[-] MindTheFuture -1 Point 5 months ago

You truly are concerned, that meds meant for handful of possible trans kids to postpone their puberty, will be widely used by feminist mothers to neuter their boys, and this is a significant and plausible threat?

[-] raarts 2 Points 5 months ago

No-one is forcing this stuff on anyone??? That is utterly bull. Look at this video:

https://youtu.be/O3Zh-j243Mg

Also note that across the US and the UK schools are implementing LBGT programs to children between 6 and 10 years old, without informing the children not the parents. These programs teach gender dysphoria.

This week 400 parents took their children off a school in the UK because they weren't informed and opposed it. Some parents said they would rather leave the country than subject their kids to this madness.

https://youtu.be/J4DB-hIfpGY

Or older: https://youtu.be/HzBVywmYCcc

Also: search youtube for 'detransition'. Loads and loads of people are detransitioning.

[-] MindTheFuture 2 Points 5 months ago

UK seems messed-up. I don't know what's troubling that country, been going worse there on all fronts for years now.

It's fine to teach everyone at some point that if they are gay or something, that is alright, they can live with it and you don't bully anyone for what they can't affect. None can control where they get their boners from and none turns gay by knowing that some are gay. It is learned when they discover that wanking to men works while wanking to women doesn't. Same when learning that trans exist, most won't go "hey, this is me!" - even as kids, they just nope out. I don't buy at all the line that knowledge of a topic is a cause of it.

But. How these are taught, if stupidly idealistic, can harm those who are questioning, otherwise messed up, seeking direction or belonging. Then it can push towards wrong choices (cue detransitioning). There we need tight, no-bullshit approach with what is taught. I remember it being that way - "blablabla, never go all-the-trans unless you really fucking have to, going there wrongly is a sure way for major suffering" and that you can get those ideas for so many other reasons. Seems more mixed nowdays.

Still, minorities are real phenomena, they keep appearing for whatever reasons in some percentages and just better to get them rolling along in society with minimal harm. Overall, seeing the topic utterly irrelevant and boring, distraction, even as the femleft sticks to framing them as figurehead of their current discourse; a theme that irritates right and makes headlines. Meh. Without heavy proof on "wrong info causes tons of wrong trannies compared to those it worked" I just can't see these people in any way as a credible threat: small numbers compared to why the majority of normal men and women won't have kids.

// This topic doesn't really belong in rp, we can continue on alttrp or somewhere else more appropriate.

[-] Imperator_Red 2 Points 5 months ago

Sooooooo shortsighted. With allies like you, who needs enemies?

[-] MindTheFuture -1 Point 5 months ago

I base my views on what I see and not on fearmongering, boys here mostly grow up manly: RP-stuff is all over local boards and manosphere terms are popular search keywords. There is that percent of soft guys as there always has been, but based on the what I see locally, whole soyboy alarmism is exggerated.

[-] Imperator_Red 5 Points 5 months ago

fearmongering

Leftist buzzword. Has no meaning. Stopped reading.

[-] fromthebottom 1 Point 5 months ago

Uh, there’s weird stuff going on. Children with autism are ending up with this. https://m.imgur.com/ZfMY8jB

[-] MindTheFuture 2 Points 5 months ago

What the actual fuck. And another headline from UK, what's going on with that country?