Summary:
With the rise of women's (perceived) economic status, they are more and more able to choose sexual partners based on desire rather than need. The purpose of this post is to outline a strategy to meet the 'gina tingles requirement while still being a useful member of society who can look himself in the mirror every morning.
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It's not hard to get a woman to admit she feels safe in the arms of a strong man, and AWALT. Why does she feel safe? Because she's fucking scared of you, not only you could rip her to pieces, if caught by her husband you could rip him to pieces too. If you can't deadlift at least your body weight, barring injury, you are a weak girly man who has no business getting laid in the first place. The stronger, the better, with few exceptions. Does this close the gap with the men who might straight up beat her? No, but it does go some distance. Bonus points for at least one dangerous hobby (BJJ, rock climbing, whatever). (Do I need to point out that women really don't want to be beat, but just to be with a man who can hold his own? Probably.)
Women often fantasize about being taken against their will. We 'to our core' good guys are sketched the fuck out by that. I think the antidote is exemplified well by Camus in The Myth of Sisyphus (unlike The Heptameron I cannot recommend Camus to this audience, and besides, if I did recommend philosophy it would be Nietzsche's Genealogy of Morals):
For nothing is vanity to him except the hope of another life. He proves this because he gambles that other life against heaven itself. Longing for desire killed by satisfaction, that commonplace for the impotent man, does not belong to him. That is all right for Faust, who believed in God enough to sell himself to the devil. For Don Juan the thing is simpler. As for satiety, Don Juan insists upon it. Hell for him is a thing to be provoked.
The point here is that just because you respect boundaries and all that jazz, you can still have relationships with women from the mindset of "I will be satisfied, I will take what's mine, I will do what I want." Does this close the gap with the men who would actually (borderline) rape her or be general shitheads? Again, no, but it does go some distance. (Do I need to point out that women really don't want to be raped, it's just a dark fantasy they feel guilty for having? Probably.)
The last plank is to be disciplined enough to follow a set of rules. It's best to not fuck the same woman twice in a row (the next morning is excepted, of course). From there on out, it's standard stuff, "How to Manage your Bitches" on the sidebar, or other sources like Blackdragon. Yeah, it feels autistic as fuck to have a rules like "text only for logistics" or "see any particular women only twice in a rolling 10 day period" but the fact that so many dudes have come to the same conclusions, unless you've leveled up it's best to listen.
Conclusion
Of everything I have read on the Manosphere, the Dark Triad has always disturbed me the most. There is something that feels fundamentally wrong with the idea that pieces of shit get 100+ notch counts. Further, women wouldn't exactly mind it if good men would be sexier. There is more female thirst out there than many are willing to admit. By being physically strong and dangerous, having an outlook that demands satiety, and following well established rules, a good man can simulate the Dark Triad and have a good time while keeping his conscious clear.
Addendum
I freely admit that I am a man of deep experience (having spent 18 years in one of three relationships with a woman under 30) and no experience at all (I blundered into every relationship I've been in). My main Red Pill claims to fame are having had a much younger girlfriend for many years and having gone into Monk Mode after she left, lest I get sucked in by a Provider Hunter (it's hard to overstate the target on my back). Oh, and devoting half the living room of a one bedroom flat with an Olympic barbell set. I lift, bro. I lift. And it has changed everything.
I honestly kind of wrote this for myself. I know I'll never be a Dark Triad type, it's just not in me. I can't even do BDSM right. I prefer plain old sucking & fucking, but to the degree I've been following my own advice above, it's been working. Pussy loves taking a pounding, so get those squats and deadlifts in. Spring has sprung, and I'm ramping up. FR's to follow.
oksidasyon 5y ago
This place is seriously fucked up. Good luck in life
Thunderbird93 5y ago
The Austrian philosopher Rudolf Steiner theorized that these are the two main deceptions. Lucifer(Christianity fallen angel and "devil") promotes egoism in man, the I am a god mentality. Ahrimanius(the Zoroastrian devil) promotes materialism, the fuck god only the physical world exists. By tapping into these two philosophies is the essence of dark triad, demonic but effective. Ethical egoism philosophically claims, everyone is selfish, pursue your own interests shamelessly. This is Lucifer saying be selfish and you can be godlike, thats why bitches love cocky arrogant self centred guys. Second is Ahrimani physicalism, these hoes are slaves to money and materialism. If you drive a Lambo, have a penthouse and a safe full of molly and cocaine they will fuck you, "personality" and "ethics" become secondary to materialism. These two philosophies are deceptively demonic but effective in sexual strategy.
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odaklanan_insan 5y ago
Too much ego, always end up in self destruction.
Marcus Aurellius payed a servant to tell him he's just a human, in crowded places, where a lot of people praised him.
Thunderbird93 5y ago
Aurelius was a wise man and I respect that. Some men pursue understanding, others money, others power. Look at Trump, he is an egotistical guy but the people love him, has ego destroyed him? I think Aristotle addresses your point about ego being destructive when he preaches balance. A fearful man is a coward, a reckelessly fearless man is a fool, the balance is a rational courage. There will be times when a courageous man retreats in battle to strategize a tactical response and there are times when he flies into danger without regard to his life, similarly with ego I think balancing pride and humility is key, its all about calibration in my opinion. Thanks for sharing your thoughts bro
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10211799107 5y ago
Another version of true power is the ability to control the perception people have of you. In all aspects of your life.
You either manipulate, or be the manipulated. You can use it for good or bad.
panzaghor 5y ago
Be careful with those traits, my personality is heavily into the dark triad and if I wasn’t self conscious about it it would do more harm than good, focus on the positive aspects.
AWALT
Thunderbird93 5y ago
AWALT is a bullshit absolutist theory. What statistics back it up? Its like saying all black people are criminals. There is a difference between a generality and absolutism man. I also suppress the devil in me so I can identify with what you said though
EgocentricMegaloMan 5y ago
Get out of here until you read the sidebar and internalize reality. In fact, get out in general. You came here and said “AWALT is a bullshit absolutist theory” when you have a notch count of 1 and lost your virginity to an escort. Don’t post again until you are educated.
AWALT, for you still blue lurkers, is a reality. Simply put, this means All Women (can theoretically and potentially will) Act Like That. For the right Man, any female will suck and fuck him in ways you could never imagine her to do it. Your sweet wife, girlfriend, sister, mother, etc. can absolutely meet the right Man who says the right things and acts the right way and she will suck his cock and let him raw dog her in the woods without knowing his name. It is not a theory, it is a fact that AWALT. Fuck
Thunderbird93 5y ago
What validating theory are you drawing from? Biology? Chemistry? Psychology? Your just rambling about how it is true without actually making an argument. The founder of snapchat and billionaire waited to lose his virginity after marriage for religious reasons, is he a beta because of the low notch count lol? Thats a shit metric for alpha. The more pussy, the more accomplished I am lol. Actually make an argument instead of just saying, she will cheat, I am paranoid and insecure, they're all like that. Look up Carl Jung and the Anima and Animus. In every human being there is a masculine and feminine aspect, assertive and passive at the same time, that leads to calibration. I'm pulling here from psychology, meanwhile what discipline undergirds your argument? Oh thats right, your opinion lol.(She was a stripper not an escort and I fucked free of charge, pussy isn't the end game in life)
EgocentricMegaloMan 5y ago
All TRP theory is built from psychology, biology, chemistry, sociology and I’m sure some other “ology”s too. I read Car Jung’s theory of Anima and Animus (thanks for the suggestion, I love psychology) and it breaks down to AF/BB for men. You have to break down more than just his words on the theory and look at everything relative to why he created it and specifically WHEN. The man was alive from 1875 to 1961. The World was at war TWICE in that time frame.
His theory speaks about Men have a sensitive side that they often surpress but can use. At the time of fighting in two World Wars, I agree with this. Women have a masculine side that they suppress but can show determination. I agree with this too, especially when Men were fighting two World Wars... this was about the time society started trusting women to do jobs men had done, the real first wave of feminism cane right after this. This evolution of society has directly lead to the reality of today’s world, where most men act like bitches, and a lot of bitches wanna act like Men. There’s more to it, and if you read the Side Bar which is chock full of red pill theories, you would understand this. Do your research.
When it comes to Evan Spiegel (your Snapchat god creator) he is an absolute beta cuck. He married Miranda Kerr, a 35 year old (red flag) “retired” model (red flag) who had a child with an absolute alpha (red flag/alpha widow) (celebrity, bad boy type, millionaire Orlando Bloom). This man who’s college idea became worth BILLIONS has now impregnated her twice (AF/BB). She has a public notch count of dating financiers and celebrities. Her first big financier boyfriend went to jail for fraud and afterwards she said “his financial advice almost ruined me” (was good with him being rich, until he ended up in jail, AWALT). Read the sidebar.
As for my insecurities saying she will cheat, I was the one raw-dogging somebody’s girlfriend in the woods. That was a quick example from nearly a decade ago. Afterwards, my friend told her my name and I was pissed. Months later, she was in my city and ended up in my bed after a night on the town. Her boyfriend picked her up from my fucking hotel room in the morning and thanked me for taking care of her while she was “drunk”, I even shook his hand her pussy juice still on my fingers LMFAO. I have slept with dozens of women in relationships. All Women (CAN) Act Like That.
Congrats on losing your virginity to a stripper and holding out for religious reasons. What religion allows their Men only to lose their virginity to a stripper? I would like to research this religion. By the way, is her name Jasmine and did you meet her dad?
No, being alpha isn’t just about being desired by and fucking multiple women. And having millions doesn’t make you an alpha either. Please read the sidebar
Thunderbird93 5y ago
Damn man(on hitting that guys girlfriend in the woods). That kind of shit would leave me jaded and cynical, props to you for being a savage. Lol and he dapped you. lmfao. Problem with AWALT though is that nothing in statistics is 100%. Even in criminal forensics when a murderer's DNA matches that found at the crime scene they will say 1 in a 4 million chance its not him. So that proves beyond a reasonable doubt that it is him, key word, reasonable doubt. At that point there is still room for error although unlikely. If we are making a general statement about women then cool, generalities can be accurate but what about statistical outliers in a probability distribution? Due to outliers it should be MWALT(Most Women Are Like That) not AWALT. Its like the correlation between education and income, yeah a college degree generally means more earning power but some people out there made money through sheer willpower or natural intelligence
panzaghor 5y ago
Awalt is just a way to end my comment man, everyone knows it’s just a theory, nobody ever thought it was true.
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Thunderbird93 5y ago
Thanks for the polite, concise and insightful response man. My bad if I came across as a dickhead. If its just a theory then why do people here keep repeating it? Just curious because "germ theory" in science comes to mind. Its not germ law yet we recognize they cause disease because of some evidence. Theory also means valid to a degree you know?
panzaghor 5y ago
It’s just a term we like, just like every other slang out there
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chrisname 5y ago
It’s just meant to remind you not to put the pussy on the pedestal. Not every girl will cheat on you, but any girl could.
Thunderbird93 5y ago
Question.(I study Economics not Pyschology(Disclaimer) ) but knowledge is knowledge. How does AWALT account for Carl Jung's Anima and Animus? Anima is the feminine principle and animus is the male principle. Every human being according to Jung is a combination of both. Aggressive and passive simultaneously. Even in the occult this principle exists. In hermeticism it is the principle of gender, the two poles of masculinity and femininity permeate nature. So how does AWALT account for this duality? I'd appreciate your kind and thoughtful feedback bro. 100
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gatorgrips 5y ago
Because it's not a theory at all. Is is a law of nature, similar to gravity. If you don't know this to be true, you are likely very inexperienced. That's ok. Read the sidebar. Keep putting one foot in front of the other and another plate on the bar.
Wolveryn 5y ago
Yeh there are certain inalienable truths about women that we need to accept to live grounded in reality. When people say AWALT it’s in reference to this fact.
An example is hypergamy. Women can only fuck across or up. Women can only get wet for men of higher value than their own...
Men can fuck down, across or up
... but that’s just one of many well established facts of life
Thunderbird93 5y ago
I won't lie bro, my notch count is at 1 due to religion so there is an element of inexperience to my game. What is a law of nature? AWALT? Elaborate further. How can all women be the same?
bowhunter6 5y ago
All women have the CAPACITY for traits described in Red Pill theory. They will EXHIBIT those traits in their own particular fashion and degree.
StoicTrader1 5y ago
I think it's not easy to find good women. When you find one, you should stop spinning plates IMO.
I don't agree with plate theory, and don't like the rules setup to keep you from seeing them more often.
Text game always important though, never want to be needy or lighting up their phones.
I'm 30, have a 22yr old GF, I was happy with locking her in because there's so much dog shit out there, when you find something good, hold onto it IMO...
Why I don't like plate theory once you find something good boils down to this,
I'm likely in the top 5% of males my age
I found something that's likely in the top 5% of females her age.
The odds of me finding something equal or better than her are slim, continuing to spin inferior plates isn't worth the risk...
And yes, lift weights, dlifts, IF & keto =)
Nicolas0631 5y ago
Plates are for sex; other than that everything is like if you where single. With an LTR you share you life, your home, maybe have kids together.
We all know how risky is the second behavior. it is actually playing life on a harder level. But it also depend what are your objectives. If you want to be alone but still want to get sex, then plates work well as well as escorts. Then you'll not like an LTR that will impose on you.
If you want to share your life with somebody, plate will look like a waste of time and empty to you. It is quite possible to be Red pilled and have an LTR. There are guide for that. That's harder, but possible.
So for your case dude, I think that if you are top 5% male and have some game, you can find another 5% female quite easily. But this isn't really about that. This is about what you want. You should not do it for scarity if you really just want sex. Then plate system is far better or escorts. If you want LTR, and it seem that you want that, with a bit of oneitis there, then fine.
But don't forget to be sure you do your part so that your LTR is a success story. After she also know she can fine a top 5% man if she need too.
BlindingTwilight 5y ago
I have been reading dark triad posts on here and in the manosphere forever. My feeling is don’t go there, either you are dark triad or you are not. Faking dark triad traits is like faking schizophrenia; it is neither possible nor desirable. Another way of looking at why women like dark triad traits is that most men who are powerful have these traits. Women are intoxicated by power and strength. If you are not dark triad naturally then it is best to concentrate on lifting and leadership. Dark triad certainly tingles those ginys just look at the shit women read: Twilight about an undead vampire lover, 50 Shades about a dark triad dominating billionaire. Women love power and strength
Thunderbird93 5y ago
I'm schizophrenic but not really violent although I did jail time in 2 counties. I'd say the dark triad can best be implemented by being demonic. Study Asmodeus, Ahriman, Akoman, Mammon etc Ofcourse the risk is hell and punishment but when you read the Myth of Er you can calibrate your virtues and vices accordingly. Occult demonology is the true key to dark triad
Wolveryn 5y ago
One of the lines that most gets women off tinder to drive to my place to fuck having had never met before is rooted in 50 shades/bdsm thinking:
“If we’re feeling chemistry, tbh I’d like to have my way with you, eat you out, then flip you over and drive myself deep inside you, I’d need to spank you, choke you pull your hair while I ride you... maybe make use of my belt... thoughts?”
Innocent Girls will just reply “I’d like that”... and then it’s onn
The more I reduce a woman to a submissive sex whore for my selfish pleasure... the more pleasure she gets... perhaps it’s a way of showing high value that turns her on
wildtimes3 5y ago
Very interesting conclusion. I’m writing a longer response, this is rarely spoken of and not well hashed out in modern RP culture IMO.
Just like most men are genetically programmed to be dominant during sex, women are programmed to be submissive. More than it’s showing value for the modern woman, I think it fulfills deep psychological needs for them. It’s not the only factor in this desire, but if a man can dominate them, it proves as much as they can personally test that he is a good protector.
Historically that proof validates the act of sex itself, as this dominant male will be able to discipline and protect her children as she very will might not live through one of her pregnancies.
Wolveryn 5y ago
I think you have the right idea, but I think our software that underpins our very nature is rooted in more basic... primal instincts with above all else the need to procreate with the strongest possible genepools
That combined with the fact that throughout history rape of women especially after a battle was just the way life was ... for most of human history, women’s pleasure from being forced inside of by a powerful testosterone fuelled man was probably also a good survival mechanism...
Only in the most recent of times and only in more civilised countries have women been empowered to live relatively safely and choose their sexual partners based off other attributes than being able to murder lesser men with weapons and brute strength
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cooldadnerddad 5y ago
As someone who does actually has these traits to a moderate extent, I can tell you that most women don't actually want a full-blown dark triad man, they want men who have traits that are similar but slightly different. Let's look at them individually:
Narcissism
What is actually is: vain and egotistical admiration of one's own attributes
What women what: a man who is extroverted and has confidence in himself
Psychopathy
What is actually is: lack of conscience or empathy
What women want: a man who is stoic in the face of her own whirlwind of emotions
Machiavellian
What is actually is: manipulative and duplicitous nature
What women want: a man who is mysterious and socially dominant
We say that Dark Triad traits are beneficial because a sprinkling of them is a good substitute for the traits that women are actually attracted to. A man who is
actuallyovertly self-absorbed, callous, and manipulative will scare off most women because they tend to be good at picking up that kind of vibe and recognize that this kind of man will at best, pump and dump them, or worst case scenario, suck them into a soul-destroying vortex of emotional abuse until they are completely used up, then discarded. If you are giving off this kind of vibe (and not obviously faking it, which they can also tell) they will say things like "you're such a player" or "you're too smooth", and in this case they are actually comfort tests, not shit tests. So please don't go around intentionally trying to be a narcissistic psychopath; just be less of a beta and you'll do fine.[deleted]
jonpe87 5y ago
You are not dark triad, and you think you know what you are talking about. And believe this is good for you.
deathhandmachiavelli 5y ago
I think you're splitting hairs and attributing to women positive and logical traits that they actually don't have.
redpill77 5y ago
I'd say he outlined how you can give girls what they want without being completely anti-social.
deathhandmachiavelli 5y ago
But its based on the fallacy that "what they want" are the positive, logical desires that HE expressed.
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wildtimes3 5y ago
The only fallacy is thinking women would know any better themselves.
Their desires are not classifiable with logic from their thinking perspective no matter how hard we might try.
It is normal to speak of someone else’s logic. “The cadets logic is sound”. “The hamster seemingly has no logic, but man it can make that wheel spin for days”.
A logic can be developed, however, to observe their behavior and help guide our course of action. In our language, facts, are always true. Correct logic, true in one scenario, might not be in another.
The most common problem with logic for this purpose would be induction.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Problem_of_induction
Logic isn’t always correct. It’s a guide, not a tunnel.
I’m failing to see where he asserted that any of this is logical in the first place. It’s just a series of observations.
cooldadnerddad 5y ago
It's not about logic, their feeeeeelings are what dictates how they will respond to you. And if you give off the vibe of a brooding, potentially murderous psychopath you probably aren't going to get laid very much. It's like, eye contact is good because it shows you're not afraid to lock eyes with her, but if she looks back at you 4 times and you're still looking her right in the eye she'll probably think you're a little too intense.
A real dark triad guy will naturally hide the fact that he's dark triad, because he's an expert observer of human behavior and has learned that people don't respond favorably to overt displays of those particular traits. Instead he'll fake other characteristics that he knows people will respond more favorably to, like pretending to be interested in what other people have to say when they talk about themselves.
Philhelm 5y ago
I hate that one. It's always the same shit too.
deathhandmachiavelli 5y ago
You're using hyperbole to make your point, but in even Charles Manson, Ted Bundy, and Richard Ramirez got laid, lol.
Women find arrogance, narcissism, and even violence to be quite an aphrodisiac.
They DO want Dark Triad men. Of course, successful dark triad men can also be successful in other aspects of life and they aren't all killers like you imply in your post.
But if you think women all just want confident, stoic, and dominant men (without the other aspects of the dark triad), you are still pretty "blue pill."
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cooldadnerddad 5y ago
Maybe the nuance of my argument isn't quite clear... girls are attracted to Dark Triad men, not Dark Triad characteristics. The reason for this is that Dark Triad men mimic the natural alpha behaviors that woman find attractive. Therefore, telling someone to imitate Dark Triad characteristics is a suboptimal strategy; better to tell them to imitate the actual alpha behaviors instead. Be confident and secure in yourself, not vain and self-absorbed.
deathhandmachiavelli 5y ago
I don't know that dark triad men "mimic" "alpha behaviors," being socially adept, selfish, manipulative, and ruthless are attractive in of themselves; and come naturally to dark triad men.
See my above post on evolutionary psychology.
The manosphere has attempted to define "alpha behaviors" but successful survival traits exist in dark triad individuals regardless of whether or not you try to define them as "natural alpha behaviors."
Women are attracted to whatever increases the likelihood that their offspring will survive (see Darwin).
odaklanan_insan 5y ago
I study the dark triad, only to detect it's possesers on spot. This gets me a step ahead of them.
One of their weaknesses is that, they tend not to be skilled in professional features. They are used to get what they want by mimmicing and manipulation, so they are not used to put in hardwork, thus lack some skills that require hardwork and commitment.
I like exposing their weaknesses in professional environments without giving myself away. I despise them.
Personally, I use dark triad features as a shield rather than a weapon.
wildtimes3 5y ago
But they don’t intellectualize it or know why. Like cooldadnerddad is saying it comes from their feels.
All of us see it everywhere, seemingly normalish women dating actual triad guys. Cheaters, manipulators, liars. And they always act perplexed when those dudes cheat and lie. They don’t want to admit they fell in love with a narcissist or psycho. The hamster will burn bearings trying to explain it away as confidence etc.
I think there’s a pretty hard line in the sand for “triads”. Obviously there are levels of severity, but you are one or not for the most part. A triad may have never even heard the term. If they are socially adept they will just naturally hide the severity of their issues like said by cooldad.
Alpha in this context seems to be used to describe a wider range of traits. IME it describes an attitude more than specific definable traits. Productive, trustworthy, moral people that don’t manipulate or lie can be Alpha or not, but are obviously not dark triads.
deathhandmachiavelli 5y ago
GREAT topic. Most men are well-meaning, good men, but are dismayed by the fact that women are drawn to bad-boys and pieces of ****.
They don't need that industrious provider anymore. They make their own money. And if they don't, big governments will provide to them. The entirety of western civilization is dedicated to providing comfort to women.
So a woman can now pursue the most dangerous, cruel, and selfish men and can reap the same benefits as if she had a dedicated good man by her side.
Dark Traid = backed by Biology, evolutionary psychology
Women are naturally attracted to selfishness - because selfishness is a positive characteristic for SURVIVAL (think Darwin). Machiavellian-ism and psychopathy are EXTREMELY attractive to women.
Over thousands of years, those women who bred with Dark Triad men have been more successful in producing offspring that survive in this cruel world.
Dark Triad is a survival-selected trait that women naturally are drawn to.
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Through experience, I believe I have actually BECOME dark triad in many ways.
I started instinctively started faking dark triad before I ever read about it on the internet.
After seeings its effectiveness, I think the resulting confidence from the success that I have experienced with women have caused me to become extremely narcissistic and machiavellian.
Faking Dark Triad kind of feeds off itself. You can still make decisions for good, but operating like a dark triad becomes so much of a habit, that after a while, you don't have to fake it anymore.
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That is my experience anyways.
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ZeppKfw 5y ago
What dark triad traits have you developed personally? What made you do that?
wildtimes3 5y ago
Not OP. You can only internalize it so far before you risk fucking up your relationships. Tiny bit of psycho. Medium amount of narcissism. As much Machiavelli as you can handle without getting caught.
Competition with real triads is usually the motivator.
ETA: You’ll use the Machiavellian skills to hide the other parts of the triad. The competition with other triads IME isn’t usually about women. It’s in business, friendship circles etc...
Once you have a real (not even necessarily severe) triad ruin a friendship group or tank a business deal, it becomes clear. The only way stop it next time is to understand their toolbox.
BradyBrosef33 5y ago
just wanna say about the whole deadlift thing that everyone mentions
I'm 20 year old 6ft+ with 18" arms, big chest and shoulders and overall good physique, full natty, I eat clean and all that jazz
being 90kg bodyweight at around 14% body fat
My max deadlift is 310kg
now thats a good portion above my bodyweight and by a lot of standards I wouldn't say I'm ripped or swole and plenty of people would assume I life but they would never assume I could rip people apart or anything.
Yeah I dont like the whole "you're a bitch if you can deadlift double your body weight" because that really doesnt mean anything
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I think it's generally bad form to comment on one's own post, but this part I really should have been more careful about. I was talking about a floor, an absolute floor. I should have made that more clear.
There is also a hell of a lot of variation. I am a 46 y/o white collar professional. At 165#'s, I rep out only about 185#'s....but I'm in no rush, I was visibly muscular before I got under the barbell, and now I'm looking really good while never having snapped anything. Your results will likely vary. You, and probably 95% of the men reading this post, are considerably younger than I am. Competition is different, body composition is different, risk factors are different.
BradyBrosef33 5y ago
its fine buddy, I understand you but its a blanket statement I've seen popping up all over TRP posts and askTRP.
I just think people are going to be able to deadlift double their bodyweight and wonder why they aren't getting laid thinking they're billy swolealot.
Good post overall though, I should have really gave you credit in my first comment
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Much obliged, and your point is well taken.
SeasonedRP 5y ago
That is a good deadlift for any bodyweight, and extremely good for your bodyweight. At only 20 with a 683 deadlift, you should look into competitive powerlifting.
BradyBrosef33 5y ago
I'm 100% considering it, I would like to increase my bench press and squat a little bit more though!
SeasonedRP 5y ago
Do you mind sharing your bench press and squat numbers? Regardless of what they are, with that deadlift at your bodyweight, you'd probably do well in your first meet even if your other lifts aren't at the same level as your deadlift. A close to 700 pull at 198 is elite level. I suggest giving it a go rather than waiting. It will motivate you on your other lifts.
BradyBrosef33 5y ago
250kg squat
155kg deadlift
My deadlift is increasing but very slow, I blame my long wingspan lmao
Squat is good but I have a lot of mobility issues so I struggle and don't feel comfortable going much heavier.
Another thing is I don't train like a powerlifter, I train like a bodybuilder because it was what always interested me and who doesn't want to look good? I do plan on doing another show at somepoint so theres a lot of other things I do that I would probably need to restrict if I were to go for powerlifting at competition level
SeasonedRP 5y ago
Those are excellent numbers. You'd place first at many meets with those lifts. You've made very good progress for such a young age.
BradyBrosef33 5y ago
Its greatly appreciated, I have been training since 15 however I really kick myself every now and again because I didn't take training seriously until around 18!
frooschnate 5y ago
Bodyweight deadlift means shit
Alone_Sympathy 5y ago
That was my first thought too
infamous3238 5y ago
You'd be shocked how many guys can't even do this.
frooschnate 5y ago
That means they’re fucked. Doesn’t mean I’m doing anything outstanding for deadlifting 180lbs.
jamesistheman7 5y ago
It's funny because most women actually have dark triad traits (especially Machiavellian and narcissism), yet they are just really good at hiding it.
the_trout_hunter 5y ago
good post man. I know it scetches me out because my gf has rape fantasies yet she was raped before being with me and it's traumatizing to her. I've never understood how she can still fantasize and it weirds me out
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TwentyEighteen 5y ago
Are you sure she was actually raped and didn’t just cheat on you and claim she was raped to cover her tracks?
the_trout_hunter 5y ago
bro. it was before we hooked up. I wouldn't doubt for a second that she could rationalise her behaviour though. not for a fucking second. I will never know so there's no point digging. let sleeping dogs lie.
dogenes09 5y ago
Run. But not so fast it triggers her prey-drive or you may be next.
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deathhandmachiavelli 5y ago
Rape fantasies and claiming that she was raped. Doesn't sound like girlfriend material to me.
Balderdash79 5y ago
Sounds like she wants a good hard fuckin
Trenned_out 5y ago
been "raped"
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HUGE RED FLAG. GTFO DUDE.
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Even if she really was raped and it's not some me too bullshit, she's likely very psychologically damaged by it and the risk to reward ratio for you is not good. inb4 i'm a piece of shit, but it's true.
Thotwrecker 5y ago
You're on this subreddit, so that shouldn't be an issue. Moralfags have the rest of reddit. I wouldn't LTR a woman who was psychologically damaged, regardless of the reason -- I wouldn't date a broke chick either. It's nothing personal.
Men also already have a very strong drive to help and heal "broken women" and derive ego fulfillment from "fixing" their partner. Women do it, but so do men. Just avoid that whole mental trap for yourself, many betas are incredibly prone to this trap.
BrownGummyBear 5y ago
Been there with an ex. I also advice to not LTR broken girls, it may seem appealing to think you can “fix her” but chances are you won’t (can’t)
gatorgrips 5y ago
I have seen this to be true from personal experience.
Thunderbird93 5y ago
Your right that she is psychologically damaged but that doesn't mean she isn't loyal. Its classical depreciation of an asset in economics,as a human being time and experience wear us down, hence ageing. If his frame is solid he can keep it G and should be fine
wildtimes3 5y ago
Nope. Should be fucked. Unless she was well raised, not promiscuous and balanced before the incident the damage will likely be permanent.
Even if all those things are there it takes a lot of therapy for a woman to effectively compartmentalize and move past a forced sexual encounter.
Years later some small trigger like a sound or smell could make her associate even you with the rapist. It will definitely affect her ability to emotionally connect during intimacy. Women who have been victims tend to be a passive aggressive type of submissive. She might push you for years to be aggressive in bed and then end up hating you for it.
TheDeathOfMorality 5y ago
Good post and all, but I disagree.
Regardless of your moral standing, without having the dark triad in your tool box as a man you're at an incredible disadvantage.
I personally, am not bothered by the dark triad. Why? Because if used right, it makes you FUCKING DANGEROUS. Now, you shouldn't actualize these traits as your personality, but understand they are tools. Study the triad, and your dread game, idgaf, and so much more can be maximized.
If it bothers you and you dont absorb it into your tool box, you'll be used by both men and women.
Also, fully agree about lifting! Keep worshipping Odin in the iron temple of sculpture my dude.
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InvictusDO 5y ago
Any tips on how to study the triad?
gorebwn 5y ago
Why would you want to "study" it lol
wildtimes3 5y ago
Lie and manipulate effectively. Gain rewards. Don’t get caught often.
Stop caring about the damage it causes to other people.
danielson7066 5y ago
We should just drop the psychobabble altogether, a man considered 'psychopathic' today would have been a hero a 100 years ago.
TheDeathOfMorality 5y ago
Agreed.
But at least the psychobabble is giving us means to label, identify, and articulate.
NormalAndy 5y ago
Psychobabble or not, “You still don’t want want to be around when I lose it.”
But that’s the point, as long as it’s a tool, no worries. ‘Losing it’ goes amazing and it’s normally enough to set things straight.
Now if you’ve lost it..... that’s a different matter.
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billybetasnan 5y ago
BDSM is so hot, I just need to find a women who is game for it haha.
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ChadowyFigure 5y ago
Is this hard? Literally every woman I've ever been with long enough to explore this has been into it. Even the ones I've only been with once/briefly loved being spanked, held down by the throat, pushed against walls, having their head pushed down roughly so my cock would bottom out against the backs of their mouths, etc. I am sitting here unable to think of even one counterexample from my personal experience...
billybetasnan 5y ago
nice man, I've only had one girl that would be ultra submissive and pretty much did anything I said. The rest was just boring and wasn't down for any kinky shit lol.
drsherbert 5y ago
No you just make them game for it.
billybetasnan 5y ago
Probably need to be more assertive yano.
Thunderbird93 5y ago
If you have a plate then ask for a threesome then calibrate for some bdsm. The stripper that took my v card was down for a 3some asap, gotta calibrate slowly for it
billybetasnan 5y ago
My ex was really into BDSM and rough sex. I don't have feelings for her anymore and I know I won't catch oneitis. she emailed me like 2 months ago, I'm tempted to email her back at some point I know she'll be down for getting fucked. I could potentially turn her into a plate for a bit. The thing is we fucked about a bit before and her insecure loser boyfriend DM'd me on instagram hahahaha. She was definitely a good fuck though
Thunderbird93 5y ago
What her boyfriend say? Did he threaten you? Operate smoothly though, particularly in silence. You can definitely plate her but if that guy is still in the picture it might be dangerous. I'd suggest only meeting her at a hotel on the low
billybetasnan 5y ago
Hahaha he's very beta that is a fact. Nah he didn't threaten me, I'd fucking batter him if he started talking to me like a dickhead. He just got insecure and jealous because his girl was giving me more attention than him and he knows I could take her off him if I wanted. I told him she sent me nudes a few times and I'm not attracted to her anymore, and he's still with her LOL. She only uses him for resources though, she told me plenty of times, and it's funny how you bring up a hotel. I fucked her in a hotel last August and she was on the phone to him rolling her eyes while I was about to pound her. She's a pretty cool girl to be fair, I don't think she ever fucked me over. but obviously AWALT for every female. I honestly don't think she will get over me though, I know that sounds egotistical but that's how I feel. Yeah that's what I am worried about emailing her back, I might wait and see if she sends me another email, then I'll pursue. I can't be fucked with her boyfriend again talking shit because this time I will not be nice. I'm just gonna wait man, I'm not desperate.
Thunderbird93 5y ago
Damn dude she sounds cold. Don't you feel bad for the guy? You should do him a favour and open his eyes by convincing her to let you and him run a train on her. You can then plate and he will be jaded enough to forget her. Not with the goal of winning her over and being a whiteknight but to enlighten the guy abit and to keep her in rotation for when you need your nut
billybetasnan 5y ago
Yeah she is pretty mentally unstable man, I honestly think she has BPD. And I've decided to just leave it, I can't be bothered with the drama and shit. Like yeah she was a good fuck but there are plenty of other women out there better. I'm just not putting any effort in to find them haha. But if she keeps pissing me off and hounding me I might just send him screenshots of what she's been saying. If that doesn't work then let the guy burn, fuck it. Did I feel bad for him? Nah not really man.
Thunderbird93 5y ago
In my opinion your best bet since she is DTF is to get her back in rotation and set up a 3some. She doesn't sound like LTR material but ofcourse you know that, I'd say use her for preselection. Take her out to the club n use her to elevate ur value with other chicks. Its like hedging in finance you know?