Many guys here, particularly young guys under 24 seem to think they can leverage snapchat in particular to gain an edge in broadcasting their smv, or collecting plates.
This is a huge mistake. A lot of guys here who are almost unplugged are using snapchat and social media as a buffer to rejection
The amount of time you need to invest into this for one works against you. Why are you not escalating immediately if logistics allow it? This is sniper mentality. No matter how much game you are running with dread and “displaying smv” you are not fucking. You are waiting for the perfect moment which doesn't exist. When facebook first grew, or even Myspace, no high SMV man ever didn’t get laid due to not using it. The argument for adapting is moot.
Secondly, snapchat and social media in general(if you use it wrong) can really take away the mystery from a man. Even if you fill your snapchat with “interesting” stuff, nothing compares to the godlike hamstring a woman who is interested in you will do with little to no information. Go ahead and lay it out for her over time. She will piece it together and get bored. This is most evident with stories. Instagram pages are vulnerable too if you are not being careful enough, and i’d argue that even if you use instagram you should maintain mystery, and not give it out till late in a plates life.
Third point, which is very important is in how social media is a womans domain. You are acting like every other beta orbiter she has on snapchat by playing in her court. You will always be in her own frame. Even if you dont act like a full on AFC, you are still validating her and playing in her frame. You dont stand out. A 30 second casual conversation with good body language, frame and an appropriate tease or challenge will create enough mystery and stand out in her mind a thousand times more than any kind of SIMPy snapchat or social media game can. She will hamster good things about you to the moon. The lack of contact and availability will drive up your value even more. You are not in her frame at all and the chase is on.
No matter how you hamster it, snapchat “game” is a buffer unless you are a celebrity or a 10 million followers account where you do absolutely nothing but upload and the pussy comes to you indirectly from it. You arent that guy.
Stand out from the beta chumps by Gaming in person, or in you’re own frame. Collecting numbers is still better than any social media game.
throwaway12121999 5y ago
All of my plates I've pulled through social media and dating apps.
Currently spinning 6, just let 3 break cause I don't have time. All started on tinder/bumble then moved to Snapchat.
Do whatever the fuck works for you.
Just1515 5y ago
Sure it works, but it is still a buffer for rejection. Many guys here who are almost unplugged still remain attached to their BP origins because they still fear rejection.
Using social media excessively or exclusively to find plates is just a buffer for rejection, no matter how you spin it. Hamster reasons why its “convenient” and “im too busy to find women” all you want. You simply take the easy option with least chance of rejection or least painful rejections.
Same as guys who only fuck fatties. They don’t prefer them, it is just another buffer for rejection
TheUggster 5y ago
social media is gay, including reddit
EgocentricMegaloMan 5y ago
Signed in just to upvote this
xavierdaawg 5y ago
I cant go with this 100%. Snapchat can be a valuable tool, especially for a guy in my age group (18-24). Someone who's under 24 most likely will be occupied at school or doing something time consuming, vice-versa for women our age. So when females are spread out like they are, Snapchat not only keeps them in touch (but not in too much touch) it organizes my options very well, and being attractive helps a lot when it comes to sending actual pictures of yourself one on one. The thing is, I think a lot of guys don't even know how to snap. Even if you aren't chisel-chinned Chad you can still do much better than sending that underwhelming ass shoulder/side face picture. Snapchat can get you hoes dude, and it's GREAT at making girls feel ignored and left out, because you can indirectly share what your'e doing anytime you want (Ex: Stories, Snapmap). Like OP said, too much revealing posting can lower your SMV big time, but if you stay mysterious, post the occasional mirror gym pic (but not a cringe one) you can up your game. Slowly but surely.
BlackPyro 5y ago
I'm an old school cat, so I might be shooting myself in the foot when I rebuke a girl's Instagram or Snapchat. I'd rather get a number then end up as an orbiter. Things are so ass backwards nowadays, girls say that they need to "get to know you" online before meeting up (which is usually bullshit due to the Brad Pitt rule) and guys go along with it. This is dangerous more many reasons as OP said. You lose the air of mystery and all anticipation goes out the window when she has intel on you. You risk being thrown into the Pit of Orbiters, waiting for the meetup that'll never come. Not to mention you're putting you're Information out there to a stranger My opinion on Social Media game, use it if you see that your returns are not diminishing, but don't use it as a replacement for cold approach.
mseand 5y ago
This is the shit RSD is teaching instead of cold approach these days. "Social Media Game". Sure, it exists, but how do you use social media to grow your personality in order to develop high value behaviors?
"If you suck at social media, you suck at game". Holy fuck i wanna blow my brains out. It's a good thing they're pushing this shit for guys who can actually pull in person. Pickup has been so watered down by the mainstream and it's kind of a blessing.
Props to you for posting this, brother
redvelvet_oreo 5y ago
When did RSD start making it a thing? Like one video showing how to use Social Media to your advantage does not constitute this is what they teach. All the videos I have watched from them I never seen anything like that.
319Skew 5y ago
Can we have a Chad here with high SMV here try a social experiment?
3 months with Social 3 months without
If no one wants or has I'll try it out but don't have the social media stats required atm.
MyReddit6 5y ago
It'd be pointless man. 3 months is like what enough time for 2 decent plates worth keeping around?
Insta/SocMed game is only worthwhile if it's passive. IE: you get a few DMs and can proceed to numbers/dates/etc with ease. I've done this before, it is insanely easy.
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BUT - it's not really worth the time & you need to have fun, tight af banter bc the competition is insane - not even from other top teir dudes, but just that even your golden message, and witty convo where she sends u nudes can be buried in her inbox in a day after an avalanche of orbiter updates.
EkMard 5y ago
Make an askTRP post. Also clarify what the task is.
MattyAnon Admin 5y ago
This is fine if it works.
But if you've been doing it for 6 months and it's not getting you regularly laid, or if you're getting the occasional lay but it's taking more than a few hours per week, it's a complete fucking waste of time. AND IT WON'T IMPROVE. Be honest with yourselves here.
If it isn't working for you, it's important to do something else. Do something radical. Step outside your front door. Walk around. Meet people. Be awesome.
billybetasnan 5y ago
I have instagram, only because I shoot photos. It's a good conversation starter sometimes, I'd like to say my photos are pretty good. If I didn't shoot I properly wouldn't have any social media lol.
But yeah approaching women in real life is guaranteed better results, a few guys I know in real life follow loads of girls and they don't follow them back lol. It's a validation pool for women literally. And they know thirsty betas will shower them in validation.
OVOXOKing 5y ago
On social media, small things aren't eye catching and are considered boring. You've got to live like a celebrity to gain any traction.
In real life, small things rule our social circles. Shows we're watching, movies coming out, books we're reading, how many girls we've hooked up with, what beer is our favorite, ect. These things can be interesting in a real interaction but on social media these things are completely boring and useless.
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Hjalmbere 5y ago
First goal should always be to have an awesome life. Documenting bits and pieces of it on Instagram isn’t a bad idea as a dhv strategy for attracting women, but you should always have roi in mind as in is the time you invest in social media better spent on other activities that will help you achieve your goals?
OVOXOKing 5y ago
Mystery is part of seduction. The less a woman can look up about you, the better. You think just because you show "glimpses" into your life that you're okay but lots of small glimpses can show a much bigger picture.
Hjalmbere 5y ago
I actually do. If those glimpses are carefully selected as in ”phew, finally reached Everest base camp”, ”just finished diving off Bunaken”, and you being embraced by a fit woman with a great figure who is not showing her face with the sub title ”bar hopping in Barcelona, crazy night”. Just one or two photos every two or three months showing you doing awesome stuff on an Instagram profile that’s not open to the public. Use your social media profile to reel her in.
Just1515 5y ago
Lmfao dude. So you are doing those kinda things enough to have a regularly daily updated story? I also bet you are partying with top DJs, or chilling with VIPs every weekend in top venues.
Get real. If you were doing these things snapchat beta game would not even be required. And if you did broadcast it it would practically be something you forget about, if it fruits or not. Its an after thought. All the young guys starting with snapchat are wasting their time, and it is also transparent as shit even for dread gaming.
Dread should be passive. She should have hamster spinning wondering. It needs very little input. “Oh is he out tonight partying or at home? Who is he with? Alone? Friends? Why isnt he texting me”.
When u upload a snap of what ur doing every weekend u are just being a transparent idiot and she starts to know exactly what ur up to. “He always goes clubbing on the weekend”. Now she knows.
Instagram is slightly different, but again, you have to actually do cool shit. Even then id not upload much unless ur already 10million follower tier, by which point mystery means nothing for ur game. So you displayed ur lifestory out for her on insta. Good boy.
Whats better? When ur talking and can reveal tiny pieces of stuff u did that is interesting yet you didnt upload. Now it goes from you telling her something she already knows u did(and helped her form a complete pic of you), to “wait, when did he do that!? What else dont i know?”.
OVOXOKing 5y ago
Yeah except you’re not doing those things so, it doesn’t matter lol
Hjalmbere 5y ago
You’re right about the base camp. But it’s in my bucket list.
OVOXOKing 5y ago
And I’m sure if you were doing these wild things TWICE A MONTH, you’re not worried about gaming bitches lmao
Hjalmbere 5y ago
Where did you get twice a month from?
OVOXOKing 5y ago
Just one or two photos every two or three months showing you doing awesome stuff on an Instagram profile that’s not open to the public.
That’s you. That’s what you said. Please for the love of God tell me you’re not a social media bitch who would take photos of a vacation and continue to upload them for months?
Hjalmbere 5y ago
You seem awfully concerned about me. That’s very touching.
Fulp_Piction 5y ago
It's a bad idea if you're socially retarded. If you have a good following, use some common sense and do cool stuff then it's free social proof. If you're getting 9 likes on your shitty sunset pic then learn how to use social media.
You don't need it, but if you can make it work in your favour then do it. Girls who are stupid enough to buy $50 detox plans from insta-chodes are also stupid enough to read too much into a pic of you with hot chicks and a few hundred likes.
Also, this probably needs to be said: Don't tie your self worth to social validation (virtual or otherwise) like a faggot.
Related reading: The Halo Effect, The Matthew Principle.
melungeonmuscle 5y ago
If you're not good at putting a facade on that doesn't make you socially retarded. Makes you a regular dude. We don't gotta be fucking supermen to get laid. That's something a lot of guys forget.
A poor ass farmer two hundred years ago probably got more respect from his woman than some badass doing cool shit does now. It's all a bunch of fake shit, that's why we're getting weaker and women have taken control. They think we're weak because we've entered their arena where it's all butterflies and "social" bullshit. Need to walk out the fucking pussy pen and go build our own kingdom and those bitches will get bored and follow and will listen to their instincts.
Anyway this is a long rant and I agree with what you're saying. Just been thinking about all the stupid social media shit lately and wanted to get it out there.
saladpurple 5y ago
It works for high energy people but if you are not one, I suggest minimizing the use of social media.
melungeonmuscle 5y ago
No I'm a low energy dunce. Thanks for the great advice.
jamesistheman7 5y ago
Yeah real life interaction always beats social media no matter what, I think that for some reason social media has become a heavily artificial gynocentric place that serves women's needs primarily.
Just1515 5y ago
Womans fishing ground. Bunch of betas caught in a huge net.
Be the guy who cant be caught in her social media net. She’ll remember it and be enthralled much more. Especially if she can never quite catch you.
DiSysmic 5y ago
This point is worth re-affirming. Social media inflates a woman's value so much more than it actually is. Land whales who have no value on the sexual marketplace are suddenly getting more attention than the average good-looking guy because of uncontrollable thirsty guys. It is more important than ever to build rapport through real life interactions.
BobbyPeru 5y ago
Fuck. The thirst is real. I see thes beta chumps every day. It’s pathetic SMH
RuleTheOne 5y ago
Thirsty girls are included too. They might not be sexually attracted to her per say but, they may admire her lifestyle. Where she goes, hairstyles etc..they all live vicariously through each other online.
MattyAnon Admin 5y ago
Women fall into the virtual trap too. Online they are goddesses, in person they know they are a land whale. So they don't bother: they stay in virtual land and don't meet men. It's easy, it's fun, and so long as she doesn't let it go further it's completely safe for her ego.
They know they're doing it, there is no self delusion here. But it's still better for them to be validated online than rejected in person.
RX0II 5y ago
Guys badly want social media to work and then complain when it doesn't.
warlordchad 5y ago
It's also been my experience that the more a girl uses social media the more of a garbage human she is--think about it, do you really want to date a girl who posts 12 Insta stories a day because she's desperate for validation? Guess who's got the most validation ever--Chad--and if she can ever get his attention, she's gone.
BrownGummyBear 5y ago
That’s actually why I like to use Instagram to filter girls. If almost all of her pics are selfies then that’s a hard next, but if she actually has some personality and has pics of interesting shit then that’s different (or course, girls that use no social media will still be the best option but that’s almost never the case)
Hjalmbere 5y ago
Social media attention whoring = major red flag.
RuleTheOne 5y ago
Man this is true, the more I experience it myself. Its like they want everyone to envy them!
melungeonmuscle 5y ago
Thats what pisses me off more and more. These thirsty ass guys. The girls are just doing what they are programmed to do and these guys on there act like they've never seen real life titties.
Just remember, every like, every "super like", share, message any of that shit brings you into her frame where she's a beautiful princess, goddess with her beta army.
As men we need to be stronger, have an iron will and resist getting pulled into that stupid, vapid shit. Go out and conquer young man.
Imperator_Red 5y ago
They're pretty much the cause of all problems.
Gaboyski_ 5y ago
Didn't Zucc originally intend FB to be a rating platform for college girls?
EkMard 5y ago
It was marketed that way initially, yes
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rpsheepdog 5y ago
This needed to be said
Social media game can help, maybe only 5% of guys though?
max_peenor 5y ago
They don't need social media. They can just put pictures up on tinder.
rpsheepdog 5y ago
Well tinder is social media right?
max_peenor 5y ago
It is supposed to actually get people together. For the 5% it's a pussy farm with very little effort.
Just1515 5y ago
Yup. Those guys have interesting crazy lives before insta comes. Broadcasting it is just like a tiny part.
For average guys, imo less is more with social media. Just enough hamster bait
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WucciTwoTimes 5y ago
I had to also throw this in the Pot for a full corse dinner for you all, Another thing have you know just in the past 4 years women have being building careers off the simp ass male, From Rap, Country, etc and social media helps you will never see that person yet you validate and call her beautiful what ever else simp ass males do.
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Mangasbzo7 5y ago
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If not, why does your post look like spam
TheRedPike 5y ago
Fix your formatting.
K9Maxwell 5y ago
I'm intrigued to know your opinion on relationships where logistics do not allow it, say across multiple states.
Do you believe social media can be a valuable tool (until said logistics allow the transition) from the ways of meaningful talk over the internet about various topics into real life interactions that slowly develop into perhaps the best decision in your life?
EkMard 5y ago
If the relationship under consideration is friendship with a guy, then use every app on the market to talk to him if you want to, no question.
If on the other hand you are talking about a gal.. you may be in for a surprise.
What are you looking for, a mother? A mentor? A buddy? I'm sure you're not looking for a sexual/romantic relationship, considering the following:
I won't say don't pursue it, it may very well end up very well. But read the sidebar ("Theory Reading") so that you don't fool yourself.
K9Maxwell 5y ago
Mutually between us (I’m a guy, she’s a girl) it’s a pretty close friendship as of right now. We’ve been talking with each other for around 8-9 months about almost everything, and I can say there’s ‘tension’ I recon we both acknowledge.
I’ve been completely honest and trustful with her, never lied, and did all I can to really build up where we are today. Likewise on her side from what I’ve seen and trust. We’re both teenagers (15) with a slight months difference. Here’s where the barrier comes.
I’m in Midwest Canada, she’s in the Midwest US. 19-20 hours apart from each other. Realistically thinking the only way I can currently reach her is through the gift and curse of social media, but later on when I can do it I am to drive out to meet her, and she agreed to the idea without any hesitation. To cut short to the chase, she’s the one. We have endless interests in common and the list of other similarities we share goes on and on.
How can I manage to really keep that connection, whether friendship or romantic, strong through social media for the time being?
wobbleelbbow 5y ago
Oh poor blue pill delusion..