This modern and successful woman was able to beat the odds and locate the ideal beta supplicant by manipulating data to create an online dating profile that would allow her to attract the one man in a million she was after.
She thinks her knowledge of computer programming is very appealing to men and she denigrates other more feminine women.
http://www.ted.com/talks/amy_webb_how_i_hacked_online_dating.html
30years 10y ago
I wonder if the genders were reversed if this would have been appalling to the Ted crowd?
"I hacked online dating and got the smokin' hot, submissive 25 year old of my dreams after turning down 1,000 ugly ones."
Helmut_Newton 10y ago
Yeah, I think we all know how the hipster TED crowd would react to this...
da-way 10y ago
There happens to be one really good quote in this lecture:
And that sounds pretty red pill to me, intentional or not.
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through_a_ways 10y ago
Online dating sites are a woman's heaven. Tons more guys messaging them because of easier access.
For a man, they rely heavily on quantifiable traits (aka no game, no body language, etc)
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through_a_ways 10y ago
Race, height, attractiveness, income. These 4 factors make up near 100% of online dating success for men.
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through_a_ways 10y ago
Well, area is kind of a given.
I'd say any of those four factors are much more important than age, although age probably plays a factor. Interests have near-zero significance.
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I just couldn't sit through that annoying self-involved victory speech.
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One must be a fool to think that all Asian women are good looking.
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the point wasn't that asian women are hot, but that asian women age well. he's definitely right about that.
semigod_ 10y ago
haha i laughed so hard when i heard the females "woah"ing when that bill guy left her at the restaurant with the bill.
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Men don't care about dating profiles. Most men would be down for at least one date with any woman they found attractive. What have you got to lose? Most average men are humble.
But this isn't the case with women is it? Bitches crazy hamster tells them to pre-preemptively reject guys they find attractive because of a few blemishes. Even a fat bitch like Amy webb.
This is the difference between men and women.
Men find diamonds in the rough and cut them into brilliant gemstones. Restore cars. Men act. They do things. They are willing to invest time and money in things they believe in.
I can't respect most modern women. Fucking useless "professional" twats.
mazzyTuff 10y ago
You do realize, this woman is just taking RP ethos, and using it to get what she's looking for.
It's not any different than the dudes who read "How to fuck girls on POF/OKCupid" books, and apply that knowledge to get sex.
Here's a solid Red Pill truth to take away from this:
The people most satisfied by their relationships are the ones who are most selfish when it comes to love and romance.
wailing 10y ago
Hardly. "Red Pill" ethos is fundamentally about understanding reality as it is and not as it's claimed to be.
Once you understand reality you can take positive steps forward into understanding how to achieve your goals in life e.g. self-improvement. How is what she's doing in any way congruent with that?
mazzyTuff 10y ago
Self-improvement.
Yes.
You're doing things for your self.
Your own benefit. Not her benefit, or anyone else's benefit.
You take action for your OWN benefit.
Your own sake.
That's the definition of selfishness.
The only thing self-ish really means is that you're undertaking action in which you are acting in what you believe your best outcome would be.
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She used a self-made algorithm to find her ideal mate. I'd say she has a firmer grasp on reality than the majority of women in this world.
wailing 10y ago
I'm not sure I agree. While I think there are a lot of areas where algorithmic assessment can improve human society (Daniel Kahneman's book Thinking, Fast and Slow goes into a lot of detail about this in hiring processes, for example), this woman's methodology strikes me as more delusional than grounded. YMMV.
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Lol. Ok. Why don't we wait 5 years, and see how "ideal" everything turns out to be.
FascistComicBookHero 10y ago
Well, you gotta understand that a crucial part of her "ideal" criterion is that he'll marry her ASAP so that she can then divorce him and take his money all within the span of five years or less.
jagrmeister721 10y ago
For someone who swears by data, her data is messed up. She claims the % of men in Philly between 30 and 36 is 4%. This should immediately look wrong because those are 7 years, and if we assume it's out of 100, it's got to be above 7% (the percentages of men at ages 65 and above are less than 1%/year). Sure enough, if you look at the overall distribution of men (http://www.censusscope.org/us/chart_age.html), the number of men in that range should be ~10%, not 4%. I doubt the distribution in Philly is that much different than the average (and that things have changed much since the chart was published).
But in the end, watching this was worth it because of the bad date story wherein Steve the IT guy ordered a ton of food and wine, left her with a $1300 check and split. HAHAHAHAHAHA! Hmmm…I have to go to Match.com now, I have an idea….
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TEDx is a synonym for "touchy feely left wing feminist centric viewpoints that would get knocked down if passed by the proper TED vetting process".
I watched the video earlier (was gonna post it here, but it already was). What I got from it is that she is just being captain obvious. I've read other sites (back when I was trying online dating) that gave the same basic advice.
She basically glazed over any real advice, in favor of "ya'll need some high standards", and just used the entire time to gloat about her success.
I also laughed so hard when "Steve in IT", who she said was terrible, stuck her with a $1,300 bill. She was probably being, well, exactly like she was in the talk, and probably deserved it.
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Not only that, but her data is based on women messaging guys. OKCupid tracks this type of data, and shows that few women actually send messages as first contact. Hell, I still have an account on there that I don't use, but I get a fair number (maybe 1 a week, even fugly chicks get 10+ a week) of messages from girls; they're all fat and ugly. She is using a method that may work for women, on guys. Clueless, is the best way to describe her.
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http://blog.okcupid.com/index.php/the-4-big-myths-of-profile-pictures/
That's where I originally found it.
They then provide a mathematical formula to gauge success.
Stayinghereforreal 10y ago
I have watched a few TED talks.
My sense is that they are generally NPR/college campus/Cathedral (look up Heartiste's definition of that word if you are unfamiliar with it) viewpoints packaged in a hipster-intellectual format.
I went back to older philosophy works, unadorned history, and less agenda-soaked information sources. The TED stuff is secular humanist sermonizing, I think.
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Yeah, that's a good explanation of it. It's why I enjoyed watching it 3 years back. The recent talks are seem to be more ethereal and less based in facts.
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This is essentially a successful application of female "seduction" techniques. She was unappealing to the opposite sex, how many "beta" guys do you know in this situation? She thought about it, and taught herself to "pick up" guys by making herself a better lure. Personally, I admire her drive to go get what she wanted. What she went out and did for herself is essentially what the everybody is doing on this sub, ostensibly. Learning how to get what they want out of women, and life, while simultaneously NOT get what they don't want. She successfully manipulated her SMV through careful understanding of the online dating marketplace to get EXACTLY what she wanted. There seems to be some negativity in the comments about what this woman did, though I don't really understand why. Why should she give a shit if she's good for that guy? She's trying to fulfill her own goals not his.
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Haha, yes so true. Her first photos were shit. Her second photos were much better, and that's probably all that did it. Yeah you're right, all the data analysis was really just hampstering when all she needed to do was just take some decent photo's sit back and wait.
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Best part of the video at 6 minute mark: guy takes her out on a fancy date, runs up 1400 $ Bill in the restaurant, ditches her and she has to pay.
edit: other salient points of the video were
After all her shenanigans she ended up with a looksmatched (meaning they have similar facial features) guy.
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What a smart guy! I wouldn't be surprised if she was the one who picked the restaurant. And got stuck with the bill LOL
nawmsane 10y ago
Ya I fist pumped for that guy. She's such a pretentious princess bitch and that dude took her for a ride.
When she detailed a good guy about halfway through the video who had climbed mount Fuji and visited the great wall, I lost it. What is with this woman's obsession with travel? Why can't she just be honest with herself and admit its not the travel she's into, its the money they spent in order to travel.
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yeah, that's the hamster though. They aren't being materialistic or shallow if they value well traveled (rich) and confident (good looking) men. At least not in their own eyes.
rr_8976 10y ago
Have you ever travelled? It is great fun seeing new things, and experiencing new things. YMMV but some people actually enjoy it.
nawmsane 10y ago
Ya I've travelled a fair bit. Some people are really into it and make the most of the experience, but I think most people who travel to exotic places just do it to say they did it. Becoming well-travelled is like a way to prove your social standing or something. The way this woman points out where he's travelled made it feel shallow to me.
If you're going to Japan or China with a tour guide, you're not learning anything you couldn't have found in a book, and you're not seeing anything you couldn't have found pictures of online. I just don't really see the point. If you're backpacking through different countries and really meeting people and living your life in a new and different way, then you're getting something unique out of it, but doing that is difficult and I don't always enjoy it. The people who thrive travelling like that have my respect. The people who just pay a lot of money to fly to far-off places and face no real challenges are probably doing it so they can say they did it. Not that there's anything wrong with that. If I was rich I'd do it too.
monsieurhire2 10y ago
$1,400 restaurant bill? WTF were they eating at?
phathack 10y ago
Not all that hard to do in a San Francisco or Silicon Valley restaurant .
monsieurhire2 10y ago
Sure, it's possible. But why do it?
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Because the guy intentionally ran up to bill to stick her with it. Just watch the video if you don't get it.
monsieurhire2 10y ago
I'm sure he did, but that's such an obscene waste of money for feeding two people.
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Its the nature of the beast. Hyper inflated silicon valley tech dollars in a localize bubble economy where every costs 3x the national average bro.
monsieurhire2 10y ago
I prefer Brohamulasaurus Rex.
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TED talks are the perfect product for people who like to think of themselves as intellectuals, despite not being very keen on reading books that can't be found on the "Top 20" shelf.
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noblepaladin 10y ago
Yeah, TED is too targeted towards the mainstream now, meaning that they have to dumb things down, make it politically correct, and push people/ideas that are popular. A lot of them seem to be targeted towards pseudo intellectuals (ex: some guy with an English degree who works at Starbucks) rather than scientists or researchers.
If you actually want to learn something, then you are better off reading research journals, textbooks, or watching free lectures that MIT posts online (they post most of their classes for free).
FreedomIntensifies 10y ago
Try this
rr_8976 10y ago
That's unadulterated bollocks. TED is getting more mainstream speakers because it is getting the BEST speakers.
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You, sir, hit the hammer with the nail.
Edit: She finds prince charming, but "he didn't like me back" - so what does she do? "I guess one of the variables I didn't consider is the competition - who are all of the other women on these dating sites."
That's the obvious conclusion...
santaincarnate 10y ago
Bollocks, being incredibly deceptive is regularly advocated by TRP blogs, cf This effort from ROK. What she's done is very similar to what many of us get up to. The difference is, she was cheered whereas if I posted about my manipulation of online dating in front of that crowd; and set crieteria like "must be white and have big titties" I'd be fucking lynched
da-way 10y ago
I agree with your criticism of this quote. To me TRP is a shattering of illusions and the seeking of knowledge and ultimately the utilization of said knowledge for ones own benefit. All within the sphere of social/personal relationships.
RedPillScare 10y ago
Rule one: Be attractive.
Rule two: Don't be unattractive.
hurricaneivan117 10y ago
Bit of an understatement there if you ask me
SwordfshII 10y ago
Well I can't fault someone for succeeding...but she should be alone or with someone of similar looks/abilities/wealth
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How dare we give this type of news the attention it so desperately craves.