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Here is another piece from the "Bad" Billy archives- a rare gem- the time I learned to stop trying to red pill my normie friends. This is considered COMMON KNOWLEDGE for a reason- it usually will only piss off those who need it the most. They'll call you crazy and stupid, even if 75% of it resonates with them, and the parts that don't will reflect poorly on you.

Yes, even if you're right.

Yes, even if you prove it.

Yes, even if you win the argument.

When you attempt to red pill someone, you're essentially calling them stupid. If challenging your paradigm for understanding the universe isn't something that bothers you (and, if you're reading this, it probably doesn't bother you); you're telling them their comprehension of reality is inaccurate.

Insecure people can't handle that. My buddy Donny is insecure as fuck, constantly engaging in meaningless pissing contests and always defensive about protecting his sense of self.

He was also a soft-incel and I reached out to help...

Yeah, don't bother.


I think it’s true that whether or not you were able to get a girl, or preferably a few girls, in High School shapes the way you feel about your place in the world of inter-gender relations. Hopefully, if you were a loser in High School, you realized that self-coddling your precious feelings in this regard is meaningless; the only way out is to dig your way up. A lot of you here are doing that, and good on all ya’ll.

Then there is the “poor me” reaction where the person becomes a human Eeyore, and ends up as a thirty-year-old virgin on 4Chan wishing he had cancer (I cannot find the link to this, but I saw a screen-capped 4Chan post on Twitter about how great cancer would be as compared to being an aging virgin, which honestly made me equal parts sad and disgusted).

But, if you think the world gave you an unfair hand of cards, and you think everyone absolutely sucks for not seeing how awesome you clearly are, you can develop a fragile ego! (AKA: an insecure sense of self-value which you need to ferociously protect).

A fragile ego is the opposite of confidence, although at times the outward projection of a fragile ego may mimic confidence, it can only be situationally confident at best and is built upon a weak frame, so this frame can be easily shattered.

Think of the fragile ego like a pendulum; deep down the person knows they suck, so they need to project that they are great- the harder it swings toward the inner-truth, the harder it must swing toward acting like Ravishing Rick Rude.

My friend Donny didn’t get any girls in High School, and reacted to this by creating a fragile ego, and now that he’s over thirty, it’s an absolute mess.

Donny needs to grab onto feelings of superiority at all times; like a superiority junky. In debate, Donny must always be right; Donny constantly brags about non-sense as a proof of value and must always be smarter and more successful than his friends; Donny makes a ton of petty criticisms and becomes irritated when I laugh them off- although he doesn’t have the vocabulary for it, Donny doesn’t like it when he loses a frame control face-off (that he initiates).

Finally, of course, Donny becomes angry and confused when his friends manage to get girls and Donny is your typical thirsty begger faux-Alpha. And, even worse, you can tell it irritates Donny that I don’t attach the same kind of ego-investment to dating women and having sex that he does; I don’t use women to value proof- while this may be subconscious to Donny, it reveals a deficiency that hammers down his fragile ego.

So when Donny asked me to help him out with relating to women, and inter-gender relations, I broke LAW 30: Make your Accomplishments Seem Effortless (I actually broke several laws, one being common sense), and thought I would introduce Donny to the world of Red Pill Game.

In anticipating of our hangout, I wrote up a brief outline of The Red Pill and Red Pill Game, what I learned through my own experiences and what I learned from being entrenched in Red Pill theory for the past two-and-a-half years.

Donny began our session as guys usually do by asking a question that would help his situation with a specific girl. I told Donny how none of that mattered, and that this lesson was of far more importance… so Donny gave me the floor and I gave him a fantastic introduction on The Red Pill… but when I would pepper in my own hits and misses with girls, I could detect Donny’s agitation.

Again, I never attached an ego-identity to my interactions with women; in fact, I never really discussed my sex-life with Donny at all outside of the girls who became girlfriends… so when I would illustrate a point with Real Life Example #345, Donny would clearly get irritated; our lesson had become an assault on his fragile ego.

When I finished, Donny brought up the question about the girl he had in mind and I gave him the answers he was looking for.

Sigh.

As a post-script, I told Donny about Real Social Dynamics videos, telling him that in his free time to click around their different channels, and I saw Donny’s face light up… at first I was confused, but then it became quite clear when Donny said, “So, all that stuff you learned from YouTube?”

Yes, it made Donny feel better thinking I was a geek; an inauthentic Alpha.

I’ll say, for a second I was about to lose frame, to explain (again) the progression of my natural game, how I put the pieces together, what I got out of my LTRs, what I learned from success and failure…. but then I realized, that would be attaching my own ego to sex and dating, that would be Donny’s crabs-in-a-bucket attempt at dragging me down to his level.

I cracked a smile and said, “something like that.”

Lessons:

  • Confidence is good; ego is bad- learn to differentiate between the two.

  • Ego is creating an identity out of your own success; when you do not meet this expectation of success, you cannot adjust accordingly and only end up coddling your wounded identity.

  • Frame control and Amused Mastery are nearly impossible for a person who is constantly shielding their fragile ego from reality because they know that reality will never match the deluded sense of identity they have built….. and all of this mental gymnastic bullshit is in-place because the person is afraid of real self-improvement.

  • True self-improvement involves destroying the ego, dealing with the reality, and correcting deficiencies so that confidence can be attained.

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[-] VasiliyZaitzev 97 Points 9 months ago

One thing to bear in mind is that any Billy Bluepills that you might try to help will throw you under the bus the very second they get a whiff of pussy, and they see some advantage to it, i.e. "I'm a Nice Guy^TM - I'm not a misogynist player like LastRevision!"

Muthafuckas will do it the first chance they get. They don't know any better, they are little Billy Bluepill Backstabbers. They don't want to be helped they want their little bluepill dreams to be real. Leave them where you find them, and be on your way.

[-] Da_RectumWrecker 36 Points 9 months ago

This is why I have such a hatred towards betas. It isn't because I'm superior to them in every way (I am), but they can't be trusted. I recently threw an ex of mine at this blue pill guy who was a friend of a friend (Call him Billy). This ex in particular had a habit of trying to fuck my friends in an effort to get back at me. I had no interest in her so it never worked but I knew she would try. I pulled him aside after I introduced them and informed him of the situation. I told him that I would act slightly disgusted but that I was going to hang around long enough for him to close the deal. I made it clear that I was throwing this girl that would normally be out of his league at him. He was excited.

Sure as shit she went along the script that I predicted. She went out of her way to show me that she was flirting with the guy. I played my part. After they got drunk enough they disappeared. My wingman and I laughed about it because it was fucking hilarious. I went home with a plate that I had arranged to meet up with earlier in the night.

Fast forward to the next morning and we are giving Billy a hard time about hooking up with my ex in a group text message. We have a name for when you hook up with a girl that one of your friends hooked up with, we call it being your "Mack Daddy". It is customary for the Mack Daddy to ask for tribute from his Mack Son in the form of drinks. We gave him a bunch of shit about it.

After that night she ignores him of course. She just wanted to "get back" at me. How does Billy the beta respond to this? He turns around and sends a screenshot of the group convo to my ex!!! There is a whole shitstorm of messages from her telling me off about not respecting women blah blah blah. Billy the beta turned on me even after I did him a favor! He wanted her to think he was a GoodGuy™ so she would talk to him, but he turned on his buddies and forever blacklisted himself from ever hanging out with us again. She still doesn't talk to him anymore. There weren't any repercussions besides the ex never talking to me again, but there could have been damage and that's what pissed me off. Fuck betas.

[-] BrainDamnedged 16 Points 9 months ago

Fuck ye, fake friends WILL throw you under the bus no matter what, the thing is, it backfires when you are actually swole and ripped, drive a nice car, fuck girls with higher smv than her... All this badmouthing about you WILL just make her pussy wetter, I am speaking this as I’ve been both the badmouther and the guy who was being talked shit about and still got to fuck the shit outta them.

[-] Zech4riah 3 Points 9 months ago

Dunno why but my blue pilled friends have actually helped me to get laid several times (even tho some of them sometimes shame me about how I "treat" girls). One of my BP friends even winged me whole night even tho "his girl" was taken and he knew that he wouldn't get laid that night.

So I don't remember seeing this kind of behavior altho it's easy for me to believe it's happening.

[-] VasiliyZaitzev 3 Points 9 months ago

So I don't remember seeing this kind of behavior altho it's easy for me to believe it's happening.

On the whole, it's the greater likelihood.

[-] sezamus -5 Point 9 months ago

Uncle Vasiliy, I would say, that any male is a threat and enemy until proven otherwise. Men claim to be someone's "friend", while they try to get his girlfriend at the same time. There is no "Bro code", but only a rivalization at every single moment.

My question would be: "what Donny did for LastRevison, so he decided to sacrifice his time for a doormat?"

[-] VasiliyZaitzev 12 Points 9 months ago

I've "redpilled" a long term friend of mine. Not in name, but in outlook. I did it because (a) I've known him since we were kids and he's trustworthy, and (b) he basically married the first girl he slept with and it turned out she was nuts. So after he finally extricated himself from that shit show, I said to him, "Look, do you ever see me lacking for young, attractive female company? Do you want to understand how I do what I do, or do you want to keep trying to do it your way?"

That said, there is a lot of risk for little reward. So best to choose wisely.

[-] Da_RectumWrecker 6 Points 9 months ago

Oh wow I have said that exact same thing to a lifelong friend as well. I have 2 disciples right now, and they are both tearing it up. One of them even passed me in the gym, it brought a tear to my eye. I felt like a proud father.

[-] odaklanan_insan 1 Point 9 months ago

I've recently given a couple of red pill advices to a close friend who who had some issues with his LTR.

But I didn't tell him about the actual Red Pill movement or any youtube channels. He was already a natural alpha. He humbly took the advices and told me I was right, and I've heard that they are happy back again.

He lifts everyday, good looking and a millitary pilot. He doesn't read TRP, hell he doesn't even speak English.

His problem is that, he over values this girl.

[-] Imperator_Red 7 Points 9 months ago

So what you're saying is you have no friends?

[-] sezamus 1 Point 9 months ago

Did I say so? What you did, is creating a conclusion on an assumption, without the specific information. You interpreted my words by basing on the first impression. I have friends, but I take care, especially after my "best buddy" started talking shit about me to my that-time girlfriend while I was away for a minute at a party. He was just dumb and acted subconciously.

[-] [deleted] 5 Points 9 months ago

"Any male is a threat and enemy"

Scarcity mentality and a TON of projection there, bud.

[-] friendandadvisor 2 Points 9 months ago

Wrong. All males are threats, and enemies that have not yet revealed themselves. You would cut out the heart of any 'bro' to fuck his woman, if you wanted her enough.

Oh, after you fucked her and got tired of her you'd feel guilt-stricken, maybe bad, if she dumped your ass later. You'd lament and mourn, and probably post on here 'I fucked a "bro's" bitch-don't do what I did-Bros before Hos!"

Not picking on you, just saying how every male is constructed.

[-] sezamus 6 Points 9 months ago

You can see the true nature of your "buddies" when you have girls like 8 or 9. They suddenly want to spend more time with you, invite you to every event they attend to and are so awfully nice to her. Some idiots talk some shit about you, trying to make it look like a joke. So pathetic. True friendship can be established only between an Alpha and an Alpha. A Beta will always envy.

[-] [deleted] 3 Points 9 months ago

"True friendship can only be established between an Alpha and an Alpha. A beta will always envy."

Absolutely, that is true. I've had first hand experience of this. Not that I claim to be a complete Alpha, but when I'm trying to move forward with my life I can clearly notice some people with the crabs-in-a-bucket mentality.

But my original point about calling males a "threat and enemies" being in a scarcity mindset is because when you truly apply TRP philosophy, you're going to be having an "I'm the prize" mentality, so you're going to be in an abundant state of thinking, if you've worked enough on yourself, that is. So you're not going to be having any threats or enemies from beta males, because your frame is always going to be rock solid, and in sexual interactions with women, you're mostly going to come out on top. And if you get outdone by an Alpha, you already understand the hypergamous nature of women in-depth, so you're going to be at peace with it, and just focus your energy on improving yourself or just talking to the next woman.

There are no threats or enemies here. Stay stoic, stay abundant.

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[-] sezamus 2 Points 9 months ago

I don't need scarcity mentality to break your skull. Just a stone and a desire of something you have. Let's say we are back in the cavemen era and you have the best female in the tribe, but I know i am the best warrior. What do I do? I break your skull. No big philosophy.

You want it - you take it. That is raw, primal dominance.

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[-] sezamus 2 Points 9 months ago

Oh god... all over the world people have problem with understanding what they read. I did not write, that a man does not need allies. What did I wrote? Read again! "(...)until proven otherwise."

[-] Nicolas0631 1 Point 9 months ago

You mix several different concept like cooperation, loyalty, friendship and the alpha/beta stuff.

[-] Da_RectumWrecker 1 Point 9 months ago

If you're trying to be alpha all the time you will just end up looking like a try hard beta. Being alpha is about doing what you want, not following some rigid set of rules that we created for newbies.

[-] friendandadvisor 1 Point 9 months ago

Sorry, pardner, you're just parroting the 'scarcity mentality' that everyone here does when in a corner, with nothing to say. Next thing, you'll be saying 'mate guarding'. Same MO, different day.

As you already know, I'm not preaching scarcity mentality, I'm pointing out the weakness in men. Neither am I preaching mate guarding, any more than I'm saying 'stick your money in your mattress and stay at home guarding it with a shotgun'; I'm saying 'watch your 'bro', since he is as weak as you, and you are weaker than you think.'

Since we're just broadbrushing, using RP terms anyfuckingway we feel like, what you're doing is transposing your favorite Disney movie into some type of Damon and Pythias fantasy. "If we just stick with 'bros before hos' it will all turn out all right! We (because I need my 'bro') don't fall in love with my home boy's crush, even though she's not his, it's just his turn! But, I have my rose colored glasses! This guy that I've lifted with will not betray me ::sob, sob::! I can swear to that, because he's said 'bros before hos' in my very presence!"

Sorry, again. BTW, for clarification 'if you wanted her enough' means 'wants to fuck her'.

[-] Da_RectumWrecker 3 Points 9 months ago

You don't have any close bros do you? What it means to be redpilled is that you know that you can never show weakness to a woman or she will lose attraction for you. Who do you think you can show weakness and vulnerability to? If you guessed your bros, you would be correct! My bros are my rock, and I'm the rock to my harem.

[-] OutsideTheCage3 38 Points 9 months ago

These are some principles around talking about the Red Pill.

Short version:

  • Be cool / desirable / popular FIRST.

  • Don't use the jargon.
[-] beginner_ 11 Points 9 months ago

Agree.

Just like you wouldn't take a personal trainer seriously that deadlifts 250 lbs. Yeah sure it's more than average Joe can lift but not really earth shattering.

[-] BlindingTwilight 30 Points 9 months ago

The secret here is picking guys who are ripe and ready to be converted. You need proximity, trust but most importantly you need very clear signs that they want to change. I have red pilled two close friends and they went from taking girls on 5 expensive dates and not getting laid to banging cute 20 somethings and spinning plates within a matter of months. They have both slid backwards into beta habits since then but the reality has now taken root. Once the seeds of truth are planted they always grow. Most guys who are introduced to TRP slide backwards but at least they have a spark of reality which may turn into a flame. That is the best we can hope for. The bullshit narrative of the leftard is extremely strong at the moment so we need to keep shining a light. I think red knighting is extremely important so next time just pick a candidate who is more ready than Donny and see how it goes.

[-] max_peenor 7 Points 9 months ago

The secret here is picking guys

Thought exercise here: why? Do you want more competition?

[-] BlindingTwilight 31 Points 9 months ago

I like to help guys out so long as they are decent guys. That is the point of this sub

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[-] swampbastard1415 15 Points 9 months ago

I have thought about this. Yes you do. It pushes you to be better, and most guys are fucking shit so you helping out a few guys will have very little impact on the entire dating pool of men. Also I have found Alphas are more trustworthy than Betas, and can work within the 'redpill system' better - they have an abundance mindset and are less likely to stoop to cock-blocking behaviors.

[-] Kpwn88 9 Points 9 months ago

Thought exercise here: why?

You can help your friends get their shit together, so you have a community of decent people to engage with. Or you can just be seen as that dickhead that gets a lot of pussy but nobody really likes.

Call me a moralizer if you want, but just because society is falling apart doesn't mean I want to contribute to its downfall.

[-] DownvoteToDisagree 9 Points 9 months ago

You are the average of your 5 closest friends. It helps to build a tribe of like-minded RP people.

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[-] Imperator_Red 6 Points 9 months ago

Lol why do you post on TRP? Do you want more competition? It's literally the same exact thing except you get zero tangible benefit for helping anonymous strangers vs helping a friend.

[-] friendandadvisor 2 Points 9 months ago

except you get zero tangible benefit

I'm sorry...what was your question?

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[-] Selfishaltruist181 3 Points 9 months ago

Why? That's easier, its empathy. I think most people here started life as a blue pilled dude, and seeing someone going through the same pain that you went through can be just as torturous as experiencing it yourself.

[-] max_peenor 0 Points 9 months ago

Empathy is passive. Why do anything about it?

[-] Selfishaltruist181 1 Point 9 months ago

Hunger is also passive by that statement. Empathy is a tool to be used or observed. It gives us knowledge of how someone is feeling because we have felt that exact experience. So why should I help that person? Now its no longer a question empathy but altruism. Altruism by its very definition means "a selfless concern for the well-being of others", which does not exist in this world because all concern and action for someone else will be born out of selfishness. Why should i help that person? Because it feels good to help people, because maybe they will help me one day, I like them so i want them to like me more; in short its self interest. I help that person because it will do something for me.

[-] max_peenor 1 Point 9 months ago

Yes hunger is passive. Empathy isn't a tool. It doesn't do anything. It just exists. That's what information is--exists. It's the bloops that think mere words move resources.

[-] Selfishaltruist181 2 Points 9 months ago

I disagree that it's not a tool, it helps identify someones pain so you can relate to them. It relays information to us. Our eyes are tools to see, our taste buds are tools to identify rotten foods. Its information to help us better deal with a situation.

[-] GLADmyNAMEaintDICK 2 Points 9 months ago

Senior Endorsed with a scarcity mindset.

[-] max_peenor 0 Points 9 months ago

Thought exercise

Which of those two words confused you?

[-] Da_RectumWrecker 2 Points 9 months ago

It feels good to help out fellow guys. That and if you surround yourself with great people they will only lift you up. You don't want to be surrounded by crabs in a bucket.

[-] WarriorMonkMode 26 Points 9 months ago

As someone who's 2/4 in "successful" red pilling, the absolute worst way in my experience is to sit them down and explain to them redpill teachings with PowerPoints and piecharts as if you were some academic and they were some student.

The only way I've seen it work is treating it like you're on some great adventure (not untrue) full of hardships and fortune and they're at risk of being left behind. You never "put yourself out there" for them because your own life is a full-time job.

The most effective way in my experience is to be blazing a path to adventure and as you go along you look back and yell "try to keep up you fuckers!" as you laugh and go about your merry way. Let them learn by eating the shit rather than reading the book. If they manage to keep pace, only then may they be worth talking to in a more respectful tone.

Less of a friendship and more of a rivalry. After all, you are trying to turn them into your competition instead of your footstool. Pose it to them as a contest, a challenge, and see how they respond. A man who isn't afraid to be challenged is a man who won't be afraid to read TheRedPill. Challenge and competition is the universal language of men.

Gaylubeoil explained it well: trying to educate bone-blue betas will never work and is just an exercise of circle jerking. You want to redpill someone? Challenge them, mock their weakness, don't go out of your way to make their pathetic lives better. The only advice you should give them is "walk away from your beta life and then get back to me on what you should do next, not before." If they cannot leave their life of mediocrity behind, they're never going to be good for TheRedPill.

What is my point? Don't try to pull your loser friends up from the beta lifestyle they're in. Find people with a "good foundation" and then let them come to you like the godfather that you've become.

Basically, if you're friends with a guy and his only goal is to score women rather than be a Freeman then they'll never be good for the Redpill. As soon as they get pussy that's it, they're done with redpill shit. It's not right, but it is what it is.

Not everyone is worth the time. Some men are destined to be blossoms, and other men will never be anything more than leafs on a tree. Try to figure out the difference between the two rather than wasting energy by uselessly trying to turn an unimportant leaf into a valuable blossom.

[-] nawe7256 11 Points 9 months ago

Lol that last paragraph was straight from Jesus in Matthew when he talked about seeds who either take root or blossom or make it just to be torn down or make it the whole way

[-] shaggyctes88 4 Points 9 months ago

There's always a master when you are truly a student

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[-] NextBad 12 Points 9 months ago

Ego is conscious reality, people who change their opinion soften have a weak ego. Most men issues aren't that they think they are great but believe in a false set of rules set forth by feminism. I seen men get treated like Pieces of dog shit for questioning feminism.

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I was taught if I didn't put women above me I would never get laid, Once I learn PUA I got laid. Morals are tied to men,

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>  an inauthentic Alpha.

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Even Alpha men pass notes, study game, they just do it on street level, but your response was golden, owning who you are.

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Ego only becomes a issue when it's used as a mask, but then again people only wear a mask when they feel they have too. Once Donny realizes that Donny is awesome , unless he is truly special , he is a normal person with normal goals who can get laid doing normal things

[-] buttgoogler 9 Points 9 months ago

99.9% of the time your attempts to enlighten your bluepilled mates make you look like that crazy ass homeless black dude on the street preaching about aliens and devil and how the world ends soon.

Sadly.

[-] HappyDappyZipadeedoo 2 Points 9 months ago

To go back even further, that guy on the street was probably once blue pilled like most of us. That guy once believed in the blue pill narrative about reality...but once he saw none of that was true, he probably searched desperately for truth only to fall victim to another false narrative...sad really, but when everything you believed to be true turned out to be false, all bets are off...

[-] buttgoogler 2 Points 9 months ago

Or, he's the one who actually gets it and everything he preaches is actually true, but nobody takes him seriously just like bluepillers are never able to realize what trp is all about.

[-] vfb14 9 Points 9 months ago

Cognitive dissonance is not exclusive for women. Most beta men engage in some sort of dissociation as much as women with their alpha fucks do, or as most people do with certain situations or information that they are not fully equipped to deal with.

[-] furcryingoutloud 7 Points 9 months ago

Rules of the Red Pill:

1- Don't talk about the Red Pill 2- See Rule Number One 3- What part of See Rule Number One did you not get?

Unless a man sincerely asks you for advice, it's best to keep your mouth shut. And even when he does ask for advice, be vague and avoid giving him the pill. Men have to search for the pill on their own. Best you can do when asked, point them in the right direction, never teach at them. You'll lose a friend and gain an enemy if you're lucky. Not worth it.

[-] omega_dawg93 5 Points 9 months ago

this. I've tried and it was not good.

one guy asked my opinion of him giving his new gf (6 months) keys to his house. i asked him if he was crazy... then threw a few red pill truths about women at him.

as expected, he got mad, then told her what i said... then she got mad and told him to ditch me as a friend. about 8 months later, just about everything i told him came true as she was caught cheating on him after running thru his money & credit cards... using him as an ATM.

he was beta and she fucked him over while using sex (and withdrawal of sex ) to subdue & control him. he's bitter and angry now... hates her.

but he started talking to me again... so i gave him a copy of RM by rollo. it's been 6 to 8 months and he still hasn't opened the book yet. I'll get the book back and hand it to someone who's ready.

red pill thought (you are your own mental point of origin) is a hard thing for some men to accept. you will lose more than a few friends... something you have to accept.

[-] SeasonedRP 6 Points 9 months ago

I'm the type who likes to share knowledge. I make a conscious effort, however, not to try to RP anyone for reasons stated in this post. Most people's ego won't allow them to learn, and it's a waste of time. I thus limit my sharing to chiming in on ATRP when I see questions about situtations I've experienced. I tried it with a guy I know from the gym who was constantly embarrassing himself by posting online how girls didn't like him and all kinds of other pitiful things. This guy has a lot going for himself, and looks like an offseason natural bodybuilder. But my tips went nowhere. I almost think he'd rather complain than improve.

Trying to RP others is similar to trying to correct glaring errors in others' lifting form when you're at the gym. People aren't receptive to sound advice and think they already know everything. I've wasted time sharing advanced tips on technique only to be brushed off with a know-it-all attitude. I thus keep quiet at the gym too. In one of Franco Columbu's books, he said his practice was not to give advice unless asked, and that's sound for areas other than lifting.

[-] TrueShadow97 6 Points 9 months ago

Redpilling people right out of the blue (no pun intended) is almost destined to fail.

However, according to my experience, BP dudes are susceptible to holes of doubt being punched through their blue pill cloud castles right when the system they believe has fucked them over yet again. The moment of misery when the beta was just nexted or LJBFed in favor of an AF is when you may ask "Hey, maybe it's not just you, maybe the world really doesn't work the way they taught you?" and there is a considerable possibility that the sufferer will start looking for answers as to why does he suck at life despite what seems to him to be his best efforts.

[-] HappyDappyZipadeedoo 3 Points 9 months ago

True, but they're also likely to get led down conspiracy roads involving lizard people and other such nonsense

[-] max_peenor 5 Points 9 months ago

Absolutely outstanding post. It hits the most important thing about the pill--yes, you can recite the psalms, waft the incense and dunk the baby in special water, but until you reject the false reality you haven't swallowed it. Indeed, they will agree with a large body of you're teachings, but they will hit a point where they can't go any further. And you can't make them do it.

[-] EdmondDaunts 5 Points 9 months ago

There’s a story usedin self-help circles which is apt.

A man is hanging from a branch off a cliff. He’s at his wit’s end. Finally he shouts at the sky: “Whoever’s up there, help me! Tell me what to do to save myself?”

A moment later a voice says: “Let go of the branch”

The question is then, do you let go of the branch? Especially if all your senses say it is a disaster.

Having climbed rock faces and been in sticky situations I can tell you right now that you don’t just “let go of the branch”. But you also don’t sit there mulling your situation. You take action and get out of it. So figuratively you do let go.

[-] Churningaway 4 Points 9 months ago

Agree with everything in this post.

A couple of things I'd like to add:

  1. Go through your journey alone. This is key. If nobody knows what you do to maintain success, progress, and build your foundation - nobody will be able to break it down. This is harder to do these days with social media, but the concept is the same. There's no need to advertise every success, especially with your blue pilled friends.

  2. Keep your mouth shut about what you have and what you dont have. This was a painful mistake for me. I made the mistake of telling my blue pilled friends about my growing side business and it only attracted scorn and envy, these are womens traits yea but you'll get them from your blue pilled friends once they realize you're surpassing them.
[-] Irtotallynotrobot 4 Points 9 months ago

Ego is such a difficult thing to overcome. Its so easy to forget to check yourself. This is the hardest pill to swallow for me. When you're making changes to improve yourself it's so easy to fall into a narcissistic pattern. I find it becomes difficult for me to empathize with people once I got lost in myself, limiting capacity for effective social interaction. If anyone's made headway with this, advice would be great to see.

[-] ZeppKfw 1 Point 9 months ago

I think you're def a robot

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[-] megamanxtc 2 Points 9 months ago

It's hard to not do this for very close, since childhood friends. Seeing the potential for them to get divorce raped, and seeing some of them cucked hard, makes you really want to force-feed them the pill. And, as you've pointed out, you'll just insult them, and might end up losing the friendship.

[-] clavabot 2 Points 9 months ago

Tbh sounds like you're a really good friend

[-] BetamaxOrVHS 2 Points 9 months ago

last week my most blue-pilled sjw friend asked me to help him fix his life. this after he spent the last few years shaming me for stepping out of my comfort zone while simultaneously claiming he's perfectly content with who he is, where he's from, and where he's going. smh.

part of me wants to help because i still consider him a friend. honestly, my advice to him and anyone would be to l-i-f-t and the rest will mostly fall into place, but i'm pretty sure he's gonna look at me cross-eyed if i tell him lifting weights is the solution to his problems because he can't suspend disbelief unless it's a man asking to be called a woman.

for now i just told him to call me anytime.

[-] BobbyPeru 2 Points 9 months ago

I once had a guy pay me $400 for (4) 45 minute sessions. He wanted to learn about TRP.

He proceeded to challenge and argue about every RP precept and principle. When the fourth session ended, I signed a breath of relief.

I concluded the same thing. It was too much for his ego to admit he’s been doing it wrong his whole life.

Help the guys who really want it and work for it, and leave the rest in the matrix.

If he offered to pay me for more sessions, I’d decline.

[-] ZeppKfw 1 Point 9 months ago

That's easy money. Why decline other than arguing with him?

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[-] [deleted] 1 Point 9 months ago

It's better to be alone, at least temporarily, than in shit company. My former 'friends' are out of the picture at this point and no, I've never mentioned TRP to anyone. I guess it just leaked in conversation.

[-] AloofusMaximus 1 Point 9 months ago

Is pretty much a psychological given, that "you can lead a horse to water". Hence this is why people keep repeating the same absolutely idiotic shit over and over. You're never going to convince people of anything, they have to make that choice themselves. You're wasting you damn time.

Heroin epidemic is a big mystery right, no it's fucking not. Monogamy is all of a sudden going to work for you, nope try again.