After having sex with a plate of mine, the oxytocin and dopamine rush made her tell me that she really likes me. "Really really really" likes me.
"Oh yeah?", I asked acting surprised, "Why is that?".
"I like you because...", she made a pause to think about the reasons. Finally she listed them:
- I like you because you made me a good breakfast.
- I like you because I sleep really well when you're next to me.
- I like you because you make me feel safe.
- I like you because you fuck me really well.
Fun fact: On multiple occasions I saw spicy text notifications on her phone from a guy named Raphael. AWALT, but that's not the point of this post.
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Before TRP I would be head over heels, because a girl appreciated my efforts! See, there are so many reasons why I earned her appreciation! So obviously the more I please her, the more she's gonna like me!
However after learning about TRP, here's what I actually heard:
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"I like you because you make me feel good".
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She didn't mention my character traits, my passions, my actions directed to anything expect herself. She likes me, because I make her feel good. Soon, I will become familiar and thus giving her less intense emotions. My turn will end.
The more I will try to please her to gain her affection, the less she's gonna like me. That's how it works. Thank you TRP for helping me recognize that.
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Stay safe, brothers.
HarringtonHouseGuy 5y ago
I'm browsing this Sub because I'm post-breakup and trying to motivate myself, and I guess it's doing that in a way but damn...It's also just really depressing, eh?
juanwonone1 5y ago
Just exactly like a bitch....me me me.
nofilmynofucky 5y ago
Before I found trp, a girl I was seeing wrote me a list of 150ish reasons she loved me.
At the time, I was pleased as I viewed this as proof that I was appreciated - however reading this list now, I realize that, without exception, every point boiled down to:
Seriously. That was pretty much it. She's now one of my most obnoxious widows, and bounces wildly back and forth between 'you're such a great guy I wish we'd worked out' and 'you're a literal psychopath and I'm well rid of you'.
(And before any of you tell me I shouldn't be responding to her: I don't, unless she's in my town and offering a 'catch up over coffee' which is her code for 'the best goddamn blow job you've ever received'. Sue me, but even with the enormous amount of women I've bedded, her head skills remain completely untouchable, and I'm more than happy to benefit from that every so often when she's in town without her husband's oversight)
Da_RectumWrecker 5y ago
Yesterday I was laying in bed with this blonde with nice fake tits. We had this same conversation! We met the night before. She talked about how she "knew that I liked her" when I introduced her to girls that I knew but explained to her what their relationship was to me after. And she liked how I touched her a little at first and then a lot later. And she liked how I made her cum and that she wanted nothing more than to get me off. And she liked that I made us breakfast in the morning. And she liked that we cuddled away our hangovers.
She messaged me the whole night while I was at work last night. She sent me videos of her touching herself while saying my name. She talked about the dirty stuff we were going to do together. She wants that dopamine fix again. I'm going to keep her chasing it because that is what a woman really wants.
syf3r 5y ago
From Rian Stone, add "right now" at the end of positive statements...
I like you because you make me feel good right now.
sebastianconcept 5y ago
Exactly. Male mind wants to go timeless and her mind is deeply contextual and transient.
MrAnderzon 5y ago
That's the best response to this post
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ExpresssMess 5y ago
I love you because I need you < I need you because I love you
WayTooCyber 5y ago
It's her turn that's ending. You are the prize not her. And to be honest she's suppose to show her worth now. You did enough already for a plate remember the golden 2/3 rule.
sebastianconcept 5y ago
Link to that 2/3 golden rule?
WayTooCyber 5y ago
Link got removed so type in Sixteen Commandment in Red Pill search bar it's in that thread.
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sebastianconcept 5y ago
Oh nice. Good to keep frame and for ongoing plates.
Flying_Wingback 5y ago
Yup, I’ve heard the exact same things from a recent LTR but I think I finally arrived at that point of too much familiarity and a slight loss of frame this weekend. All that talk seems to be a thing of the past now and shit tests were off the charts just last night. Time to look for some new challenges.
redbearsociety 5y ago
To be fair, you have complete control over how you make her feel. Girls get bored of guys because the guys stop engaging with them, they just think 'I have the woman part of my life ticked so I don't need to do anything now'. Trying to gain affection doesn't make her feel good so don't get stuck in that validation cycle. But you can 'own' a girl so to speak by keeping her excited.
JimiJons 5y ago
Always remember: Familiarity breeds contempt.
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Imperator_Red 5y ago
Haha wow. Got these exact 3 from my LTR.
redvelvet_oreo 5y ago
I’m in a LTR but still game other women for fun. Recently some young chick told me “I like you. Your like the cool guy from a TV show that says ‘come here dumb slut, go and do this’” (I didn’t call her dumb slut. I just a nick name I made up for her and started calling her it)
The stupid shit that attracts women. Gotta love it.
hidemyface1234 5y ago
She said them to every guy before you too
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rygy3 5y ago
Looks like you gotta step up your breakfast game
dev_blockchain_ai 5y ago
lol I’ve never once made breakfast for LTR, but she makes me crepes or eggs or oatmeal literally every morning. I made myself a giant bacon omelet several times and only offered her some when she sat next to me. guess I need to step up the breakfast game too :(
Shtafoo 5y ago
Wow dude you actually transcended being a human being and are now a god in her eyes. Congratulations your life and omelette must be great.
dev_blockchain_ai 5y ago
My life is so good you’d go into a jealous rage if you saw it
Don’t worry I don’t visit here to argue w jealous ppl like you
I’m here to see how close we are to a full collapse of civilization
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FractalNerve 5y ago
Exactly the same 3 from my Ex.. Wow
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Gr0o0vy 5y ago
you guys sure you were not banging the same girl lol?
ethical_pa 5y ago
Hmm... I will try asking my FB why she likes me.
GeorgiR 5y ago
Better not bring it up, makes you look insecure.
sebastianconcept 5y ago
I’m not sure about it. Depending on how you ask it can, but you could do it very securely and in a tone in which you subcomunicate that you know what works on you but you are either playfully testing her or curious about what in your arsenal worked on her. I ask this to every plate. For example I show the girl a bunch of my pictures and I ask which one likes more and why? They reveal a lot. And with Instagram, many times they take the initiative reacting with emojis of hearts eyes, kiss or fire
ethical_pa 5y ago
Nah. I can say whatever I want to her. Insecurity isn't in what you say it's in the place it's coming from. I'm fine.
Imperator_Red 5y ago
I've heard the sleeping better thing from multiple girls. It's probably a primal instinct. In prehistoric times they were actually safer if they were sleeping next to a man.
Shako12 5y ago
Same. I wonder if there has been a study on this.
Da_RectumWrecker 5y ago
Let's apply for a grant and get one done! We can record us sleeping with a bunch of girls and see how they feel in the morning.
Lieisnotreal 5y ago
"Soon, I will become familiar and thus giving her less intense emotions. My turn will end. "That's not necessarily true you can maintain the intensity of her emotions by creating mystery or just generally making her idealize yourself.
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Varsel 5y ago
Appreciate it for as long as you can, then let it slide away. Some gals will be done in a week, some may last many months. Stay aware and observant....you're know when it's time to move on.
dirty_ja_galis 5y ago
Yep. She likes you because you validate her.
You validate her simply by being a great catch and she being the lucky girl to suck your dick.
Continue being a great catch.
deterlaettis 5y ago
Am i the only one here who would feel rage to my stomach for hearing "her" spout nonsense like that. Reading it and internalizing it in my head just feels wrong to me, l just feel like saying some truth to her, give her some guidance, I embrace Patrice O'Neals wisdom in saying "guide the bitch" because it is what it is. AWALT and it's our job to make them housewives instead of hoes by giving them the proper mental stoic guidance. Do not sugarcoat nothing.
dev_blockchain_ai 5y ago
Yeh dude her reasons for liking YOU were literally nothing about you
But honestly those are the best you’re gonna get from a woman in the modern world for now. Only guys can respect your skills and hobbies and character traits about YOU and how they make you self sufficient
Evolutionarily she’s in love with you precisely because she knows you can knock her up and give her babies and they’d eat well, sleep well, and feel comfortable and low drama around you. So in a way you got the highest compliment possible women are capable of. :/
They just can’t do better. IF you decide to lock this down just warning about Raphael. You better make sure that isn’t going on 100%. Or you’re just gonna get cucked.
bsutansalt 5y ago
The inverse is also true. So many times guys get wrapped around the axle because they got rejected, but in many instances it had no thing to even do with the guy. Could be anything from bad logistics, her dog just died, parents announced a divorce, whatever. My point is never take rejection personally.
A/B test your methodology and if you're getting consistent results and something of an outlier happens, you can lay even odds it wasn't something you did or didn't do.
mtriad 5y ago
I agree, except to the nowadays part. Women always been like this and it will always be, it is part of their nature and logically, I don't think there's anything wrong with it, just live with it.
JayRock379 5y ago
I don't think you understand, bud. The thing is, she isn't LTR worthy. Go read the studies of what happens to most women after around the 3 or 4 year mark in relationships. Attraction plummets. So really, optimally, you should at most be looking for an MTR that you switch up every now and then before it sizzles out...
Incel9876 5y ago
Women are meant to be getting pregnant on around a semi-annual basis. And if a man hasn't knocked her up after 3 or 4 years, then historically he was probably infertile and she should move on.
dev_blockchain_ai 5y ago
Well I wouldn’t touch her if she’s had too many past ex’s
I married a virgin (first wife was not a virgin and it got me to trp and I figured shit out) and have kids now because I don’t want the entire globe to be Turkmenistan or Zimbabwe in 30 years but if an orgasm with a banging chick keeps the dopamine flowing more power to you. I get more dopamine knowing my genes will live on forever. Dunno why. Also fortunately my wife still asks regularly for sex even at the 8 year mark (of us fucking not how long we’ve been married) and even complains I don’t have sex ENOUGH with her. Also AWALT still applies big league.. this is why I spend a ton of time in the garage building shit, at the gym, or with kids or literally fucking other women :(. If I didn’t I know she’d already be sick of my ass.
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Scorchyy 5y ago
So basically you cheat on your wife and admit it?
dev_blockchain_ai 5y ago
I have a life that would put you into a jealous rage
FalconWrite 5y ago
Oh no. You were doing so well up until this
Da_RectumWrecker 5y ago
Actually, I believe you. While I am not married nor ever will be, I have seen a few relationships like the one you're describing. Dont let them doubt you just because they cant imagine living like that. I tell people all the time that my life sounds made up and that even I cant believe half of the shit that happens.
Scorchyy 5y ago
Fuckin looser, those who say that are the most insecure and unhappy
dev_blockchain_ai 5y ago
I’ll show you how to use tinder if you apologize and watch my car so it won’t get towed
Iticip 5y ago
Any chance you could DM me a link to guide. Just got a 1.5yr burn.
22oregon22 5y ago
My last relationship started to implode at around the 3 year mark. Less sex, blow jobs near non existent, GF lazy as hell, holding resentment about me pursuing a doctorate and not giving her enough time, etc. She broke up with me at around the 4.5 year mark because I was a bitch back then. Now she’s dating a more wealthy older guy because she is hot and can get away with whatever she wants.
Anyways, loved the write. Even though my example is anecdotal I see it all the time.
TRP changed my mode of thinking and quite frankly my life.
Cheers
JayRock379 5y ago
Like I said man, don't take it personally. That's how women are wired. Wouldn't have mattered if you were Brad Pitt. Hell, look what happened to him...
22oregon22 5y ago
Absolutely. At 26, just starting my career, I’ll be that man in my mid to late thirties who is established financially with status and doing the same thing to guys like me at my age. Women can’t fight hypergamous inclinations— it’s biology.
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22oregon22 5y ago
Haha well done my friend. At what city is this taking place in?
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_iisu 5y ago
OP's post screams shallowness and the apocalyptic vision he concluded with, so applauded in the comments, is just repulsive.
I'd ask her what she would do if I took away one of those things she likes about you.
Crixusgannicus 5y ago
True Red Pill will have you realize there are only two reasons ANYONE likes ANYTHING or ANYONE ever.
That's why you like your car, your food, your clothes, your significant other, your dog. Think it over and realize I'm right. Try in vain to think of one thing that you like that doesn't either fall under number 1 or 2.
nicktesoriero 5y ago
Great post highlighting something many guys and myself used to not understand
graceful_aggression 5y ago
A good reminder that TRP allows a more conscious awareness of common AWALT behavior; over time, occurrences such as these becomes less of a surprise, and you gradually build amused mastery.
Da_RectumWrecker 5y ago
I can predict what they are going to do and how they will behave now. I seem really witty but my responses to the same stuff are so automatic that I have to be mindful of my tone of voice to ensure that it seems authentic.
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Nov51605 5y ago
It doesn't get any more rational male than that. As real deal men, we have to be just as icy as we are seductive and passionate. This is prob the point where you wanna do a massive week long pull back / ghost just to stretch things out. seems like it would be good timing
metallicdrama 5y ago
In the end it's all about her. If you serve her needs you're still relevant. Women always resent you for having to be loyal when they're locked into marriage and family.
Andgelyo 5y ago
Underrated post here. This is a great reminder that women only like how you make them feel. Feels before reals. We must continue to shoot “feel good” bullets at them to succeed with women.
bouncypoo 5y ago
intermittently of course, as too much feel good leads to Mr. Nice guy aka Mr. Friendzone. As long as you make them feel something
ChesterRickman 5y ago
I don't think he means the blue-pill idea of feel good bullets, rather the red pill ones, which involve red pill behaviours.
Andgelyo 5y ago
Yeah I meant the drug inducing euphoria like bullets from us, not the fake, insincere bullshit blue pill subhumans pull
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TheRedMonkey13 5y ago
I really really really like this post
TheTrenTrannyTrain 5y ago
Women love opportunistically; they love you for WHAT you can do for her.
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Scorchyy 5y ago
Men do too, if the girl wasn’t giving you sex you’d get rid of her
toobass 5y ago
Have you ever heard of an orbiter?
Scorchyy 5y ago
Yeah, the moon is an orbiter of earth
Snowaey 5y ago
and so are beta men around girls they are interested in
fryhldrew 5y ago
Man, I would give you gold if I had some
foxhound525 5y ago
I learned this lesson the hard way many years ago. Men love women for who and what they are, women love men for what they can do for them. We're simply tools to them, and worthy of no more consideration than that.
piggiebiggie 5y ago
Why shouldn't she like you because you make her feel good though? This is a serious question. The reasons she listed, did you ask why those things made her feel good? You say that she didn't mention your character traits, but look at the list of things you provided.
breakfast, sleep well, feel safe, good fucks
The things she listed speak to what she thinks of you at a deeper level. It may be good to ask.
Lubomir1994 5y ago
Underrated post. Simple but of eternal wisdom.
redvelvet_oreo 5y ago
Lol anytime a plate or LTR tells me this shit I just acknowledge it with yeah I know I’m awesome. Haha the irriational self confidence makes that pussy wet.
Imperator_Red 5y ago
In earlier times irrational self confidence would get your head caved in by superior men, so a woman observing such self confidence could be reasonably certain that it was not irrational and he was a high quality male. Now there are no penalties for irrational self confidence. Their brains are tricked.
Razkolol 5y ago
Turn on some negative emotions, you’ve left that whole part untouched. Drop in some dread, ignore some messages/calls, small negs, etc. She’ll like you because you make her feel good/bad/anxious/etc., give her the whole range, especially since she’s already talking with some other guy.
oooKenshiooo 5y ago
Yep. Right on the money.
Hence, when vetting for LTR material, ask her what she likes about you. If has not figured out the positive sides of your character well enough to turn that into a compliment, she is no more than a plate.
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h0ndaboy 5y ago
You had sex with a girl and she tells you sex feels good. Grass is green and now you have oneitis
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Cfwydirk 5y ago
So, she is a “plate of yours” and she tells you good things you do to make her really really really like you. You don’t tell us what if anything she does to make you like her except fuck. So if she is one of 2-3 or more plates while you are dating others is she supposed to wait by the phone for when you might call. Are you jelous of her plate Raphael? Would she choose you over him? Do you want more from her? Is she thoughtful and do enough good things for you. Be real, if you want more from her go get her. Use you redpill knowlege to vet her as worthy or not.
Imperator_Red 5y ago
Lol. There's always one weirdo at the bottom of every thread.
WayTooCyber 5y ago
Who cares what she does when he's not with her? She's a plate. If she does good she'll be promoted to friends with benefits but she needs to show effort besides sex.
halfback910 5y ago
I feel like he is getting exactly what he wants from her. And so is Raphael.
preazeu 5y ago
When did cuckoldry became acceptable?
serio1337 5y ago
How is this cuckoldry lol. Are all of your plates exclusive to you? I highly doubt it
preazeu 5y ago
I don't know about you and your fetishes but that's exactly what cuckoldry is and I wouldn't waste my time with a girl that fucks other men, and just think about it and how disgusting this actually is.
halfback910 5y ago
Cuckoldry? They're both having sex with multiple people. I get that there's an anger with women, but surely if the guy is fucking multiple people the woman can't be expected to be faithful. That's not a particularly fair or helpful standard.
It doesn't sound like they have an agreement or anything like that so what's the issue?
preazeu 5y ago
That's exactly what cuckoldry is, when the woman you fuck fucks another man. Is he not man enough to handle multiple women so they need other man to fill the void? If you're a beta just fuck one girl and fuck her good. That's a clear sign of weakness on his side. My problem is with him not with the girl.
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halfback910 5y ago
I thought it was when someone you were committed and were into them fucking other people?
Either way. If he's getting what he wants what's the fucking issue? And what's more, if you get off to someone you have sex with fucking other people, what's the issue with that? He's getting what he wants, what else matters?
preazeu 5y ago
It's when she cheats.
And about the second paragraph it's that we have different views. I don't like the idea that if you like it you do it. It's blue as fuck.
halfback910 5y ago
How the fuck is it cheating if they're not in a relationship/exclusive?
Do you actually go to a club, fuck some chick, and then expect her to pledge undying devotion to you and you two walk off into the sunset?
Well, people should fucking do what they want. I don't like smoking weed but I won't tell other people not to do it.
Why are you so worried about everyone else and what they do in their bedroom?
preazeu 5y ago
Cuckoldry is when the woman cheats. I wasn't talking about this topic or trp related.
No, but if we're two months in I won't be ok with her fucking 6 guys a week with me the seventh. If the bitch likes to slut around I'm saying that we as a whole should stop accepting this degeneracy.
Of course they shouldn't. That's why trp even exists, because betas are tired of doing what they want and wanna do what they should.
Everybody is worried about what everyone and what they do in their bedroom. Trp is for and about bedrooms.
halfback910 5y ago
But you can't make a horse drink, right? If the betas are coming here then they DO "want" to improve or whatever.
It's about their own bedrooms as far as I can tell. Not telling people what to do in theirs. You might be into some shit I'm not into. Are you going to give a fuck whether I like it or not? No. Nor should you.
What if he just wants to fuck? What if he doesn't give a shit about the things you give a shit about? Maybe dude just wants to fuck?
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superyute 5y ago
improper use of AWALT btw. The idea doesn't apply here
WinjetRed 5y ago
Absolutely proper use. Classic hypergamy right there. Trying to nail the alpha down while keeping another alpha or beta in waiting.
raoko 5y ago
All my plates have done this. So yes, AWALT does apply here.
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beachbbqlover 5y ago
I unironically just texted my LTR something kind of similar because her parents are separating - telling her that her cooking and cleaning for me is actually just icing on the cake. That the big thing is intimacy, and I think we'll be alright.
Im not saying itll work for any of you, but for some reason she ate that up.
TheCookShow 5y ago
You make, you fuck, you make... All things that you do, not something that you ARE.
A sad truth that I accepted only recently... Thank you for sharing.
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preazeu 5y ago
How pathetic it sounds, "my turn will end". Proof that a beta will always be a beta no matter how many plates he fucks and how much theory he knows. Hamster hamster hamster hamster hamster hamster. Plus, you're putting your mouth where probably Raphael puts his dick. Grab yourself by the balls and wake up, sheeps.
max_peenor 5y ago
Welcome to the aftermath of the sexual revolution. It's not just Raphael's dick the has been there and his dick has been leaving deposits in other holes too. This is the new ground state for the sexual market place. Get used to it.
preazeu 5y ago
Nah, man, that's only in your shithole country. That's why I even commented, because you've fucked up but you're to cucks to to fix it. You'll see degeneracy like this only in America.
max_peenor 5y ago
Got anything else you want to pull out of your ass?
Oh, and Copernicus, why would I want to change things when they allow me to get more sex for less resources? It seems like you want to own women like cattle. You have too feed your herd.
preazeu 5y ago
That's one of the reasons why America is full of fags, lesbians, feminists, trannies, pedos and shit, you're all over-sexualized and you tolerate everything sex related. Plus, you're thinking to much about sex, man, is not like it was that hard to get before.
Yeah, I don't want to share my woman.
max_peenor 5y ago
Answer the question.
Degeneracy has nothing to do with where people put their genitals. That's just a symptom, not a cause.
WayTooCyber 5y ago
Kill this attitude. This man did nothing to you personally. Don't blacklash your mood on others when you're upset that's way too feminine.
DrMrJrSr 5y ago
This is what the "anger phase" pillers do. We've all been down that road, some choose to stay as it validates their insecurities and fears. I've been there..
At some point, these guys are going to have to break their hostility towards women and meet them halfway, or you become another Elliot Rodgers. This is why going through the WHOLE process is vital.
preazeu 5y ago
My problem is not with the girl, my problem is with him. I don't like his weak mentality. I mean, it's healthy to expect her to leave, but not like this.
preazeu 5y ago
I don't know, man, I just don't like how TRP has degenerated into this weak, thirsty boys thing. It's not about fucking, it's about becoming a man.
WayTooCyber 5y ago
TRP is a toolbox though. We could apply our knowledge here to better our lives in anyway we want and I view you guys like a silent brotherhood.
Maybe just a communication blockage? What I got from OPs post is him telling us about his plates natural solipsism.
preazeu 5y ago
I don't care about the girl, I care about him and he sounds like he's hamstring and overthinking on trp. That's what I got from his post. "She said she likes me because I do this, this and that, but using my trp knowledge it actually means because I make her feel good" what the fuck
bruiser18 5y ago
So if you’re just fucking a girl, and you don’t want a relationship, what’s she going to do? Be loyal to you for nothing? AWALT.
preazeu 5y ago
Well then what is a realationship? They're fucking and going out, he likes her, she likes him, that's a fucking relationship. And it's not her problem how he sees their relationship, she shouldn't know if it's serious or not. But if they're fucking once a month when he wants, not going out and shit, it means the girl has no respect for herself, clearly mentally ill so you know next.
bruiser18 5y ago
You’re right it’s not her problem. I mean, if he expects her to be loyal to him, but she doesn’t know that, that isn’t her problem. She clearly doesn’t see it as a serious relationship, obviously he doesn’t either.
How is she meant to know he doesn’t want her fucking other guys? If he didn’t, he’d need to lead by example and set boundaries. Otherwise she’s not gonna know and she’ll fuck other guys all she likes.
preazeu 5y ago
Isn't she supposed to know from the start that cuckoldry isn't acceptable? Betas here twisted everything and now you should tell her that it's not ok for her to fuck other men? This looks like conditioning men to accept women fucking around, this isn't red pilled.
bruiser18 5y ago
If she’s not your girl why shouldn’t she fuck around? If you are telling her you don’t want a relationship and she knows she’s just a plate, why should she stay faithful to your ass? If you’ve got 4 or 5 girls in your rotation what does it matter to you if they’re fucking around?
Unless I’m screening a girl for a relationship, I don’t care who she fucks when she’s not with me, because I’m fucking other girls anyway. There comes a point with girls when you are invested and you can’t hide it, so you ‘train’ her to do as you want her to. That’s the whole idea with rewarding good behavior etc. Read some stuff by u/Whisper regarding hypergamy and control game.
preazeu 5y ago
Then just go to prostitutes and stop wasting time. If you're fine with the idea of fucking a girl that yesterday swallowed someone's cum, fine, you do you.
bruiser18 5y ago
If I’m only meeting up with her to fuck and nothing else, why would it bother me what she does? I can’t control her. If she wants more investment beyond fucking, that’s when I would find it unacceptable and expect exclusivity.
preazeu 5y ago
Come on, man, just say I'm right and stop the hamstering. Of course it would bother you, who wouldn't be bothered? It's not about control, it's about normality. Every culture accepted men fucking multiple women, not women fucking multiple men, because it's not healthy and these women never end well. Plus it shows the weakness of the men.
bruiser18 5y ago
Nah bro, really. If I’ve got no emotional attachment to a bitch I really don’t care what she does other than fuck me. Do I approve of her sleeping around? No, sure. But that’s why she’s worth nothing more than being my cum sponge on a Saturday night when I’m bored.