Intro This is my first post on trp since I found it 2 years ago. I feel like I haven't been able to contribute anything of use that other people haven't already done. Until now. Congruency is discussed more amongst the pua crowd but - as you're about to see - this shit is actually much more of a red-pilled core concept than a facet of "game". And that's why we're here after all isn't it? Enjoy.
Body Firstly, I have some fucking important advice for you all. As a callow young student of trp, you turn from a blue pilled beta to a blue pilled beta who now understands the true reality of intersexual dynamics. This statement is crucially important because you have to realise that if you do decide to adopt a red-pilled frame in your interactions with women, you are actually setting yourself up for shit you are decidedly not ready for. What I mean is that you may show flashes of redpill brilliance, but you have no idea what this means to a woman. She will see your "rock-solid" frame and amused mastery and be biologically prompted to test you. Hard. This is because anyone can imitate high value behaviour to some degree, and there's nothing women feel more disgusted by than being tricked into receiving your shitty low value seed. That's why our society (women especially) react so badly to rape: Briffault's Law (read the sidebar silly) is bypassed when a woman is raped since she has no control over whose seed she has received. This is egregious beyond belief for her evolutionary prospects hence the complete and utter repulsion. The same repulsion is felt when a woman realises you are not congruent with your red-pilled rock solid frame, and have been deceiving her in hopes of ensorcelling her into reproduction. I made this mistake for years because I was in denial about certain aspects of my frame that were still weak, hoping my "strong points" would overcome this. I was wrong. I wasn't congruent.
What exactly is congruency? Congruency is a pua term which describes how consistent you are with being the man you claim to be. A perfect example of this is imagine two guys go into a bar with stupid fuzzy hats on. One guy is a beta, the other an alpha who is congruent to fuck. Obviously since these hats are so stupid they start to get a lot of attention from people in the bar. A hot HB8 comes up to the beta and starts abusing his weird fuzzy hat - quite viciously. The beta now feels ashamed and insecure. He rushes home to change but by the time he gets back he sees something that renders him speechless: the same HB8 is dancing and grinding on the alpha who even still has the stupid hat on. "What the fuck?" he thinks to himself. "This guy is smaller than me, he's dressed like shit and he's wearing the same hat that the HB8 said was flagitiously shit just 20 mins ago?!" Now why did this happen? Congruency is the answer. Wearing something like a fuzzy hat has the potential to make you seem very attractive. It's called peacocking. It tells a girl that you have so much social value and rock-solid frame that you can deal with any of the social pressures that come along with looking weird as fuck. So when our HB8 approached the beta she was testing how congruent he is with the alpha personality he's portraying. When he ran home - scared and insecure - you could've probably heard her flaps snapping shut in utter contempt of the duplicitous beta.
The alpha of course is congruent as fuck so when the same HB8 came up to him looking for trouble he just dismissed her with amused mastery and aloofness which is - of course - congruent to the peacocking ostentatious persona he is showing off for all to admire.
So basically congruency is your ability to be consistent with your redpill behaviours and frame. And this covers so many areas. If you prefer the James Bond approach when talking to girls that's great. She will be attracted to you. But if she ever happens to see you flustered and jabbering in a time of crisis, you're not being congruent to that cool James Bond vibe you had going on beforehand. And trust me, this shit is important. Be congruent.
Conclusion This little tale is just a metaphor for real life sexual success: by "acting" red pilled as a beginner you do spark some attraction. But at the same time you make yourself vulnerable to attack. You have no idea how few men are red pilled these days. So when you act like one you will stand out immensely. Honestly. You probably underestimate how much being even slightly red pilled can make you a target for intense scrutiny. She wants to know if you're the real deal since barely any guys are behaving like you are. And if your lack of congruency is caught out, you'll be fucked. Girls' reactions to an exposed incongruent beta acting like an alpha is far more severe than your everyday beta. Trust me. I could make a full post about my stories with this but not right now. So my message to you all is work on your congruency before you expect real success with women.
RedPilledRoaster 5y ago
In order to truly build congruency with your inner game and the image you put on, assuming you want to align yourself to an alpha frame, you must build that congruency by facing adversity, both mental and physical, which build your inner sense of worth and tolerance to challenges.
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This is the only way to truly build yourself into an alpha. This is where PUA fails and TRP succeeds. Through going out and facing rejection, lifting, doing MMA training, etc. as TRP recommends, you face that adversity and forge the internal. You don't put on a mask that says "I'm a man" and lie to yourself about who you are, which fails in the long run.
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You truly become what you've previously only idealized.
Battagliare 5y ago
This post is %100 true. In order to build congruency, you need to identify your inner-self and find the weak parts and find what caused this weakness. I highly offer a therapist for this. They are really good at identifying your emotional weaknesses or shortcomings.
Brutal13 5y ago
Therapist? How do you think you gonna work with him on it?
Battagliare 5y ago
"They are really good at identifying your emotional weaknesses or shortcomings."
flaxenbillows 5y ago
Not to be histrionic but this is one of the best posts I've ever read here. It's nearly (but not) as important as How to Get Laid Like a Warlord since congruency is a grossly overlooked and oversimplified topic but to be honest I think it's the sequel to HTGLLAW. Congruency is 100% as necessary to being a man as a strong frame is. You can't have one without the other. That's called being a fake. It's kind of esoteric too and I hope this post will change that. Props to you daddy.
Olga_Schmutzer 5y ago
Isn't the whole distinction between PUA and TRP not one of congruency!? Anyway, nice post indeed. I needed the reminder.
flaxenbillows 5y ago
PUA is a broad term. I would disagree that PUA doesn't use congruency. They call it "inner game" but it's pretty much the same thing. Theres a pua called yareally who was around a few years back and it's actually him I learned most of my congruency shit off. Yareally is imo the greatest author of pua literature ever. He's disappeared now but his shit is still available at http://web.archive.org/web/20170708104513/http://www.yareallyarchive.com:80/ Give it a read, it's quite a messy website but everything there is a fucking goldmine. He's inspirational too - he literally came from nothing in terms of social skills and sexual relationships. Now he hangs with the best in the community. He's a very special person.
Olga_Schmutzer 5y ago
Thanks for the link. I guess I already read stuff from him, I'm not new here. Just like the concept of congruency isn't new here.
OutsideTheCage3 5y ago
In most stories you only see the tip of the spear.
Being congruent is being the whole spear. And using it. Or being it.
360_no_scope_upvote 5y ago
I think we can all agree, being congruent in a relationship is hard af. However it is very beneficial for you to reflect and ask yourself is this who I want to be. Alot of growth can occur during this stage.
You can put on any façade you want for a random lay.
bcool87 5y ago
Good post. And I feel like at every level of "leveling up," I face a new incongruity that I need to iron out. I'm currently going through one of those phases now, using journaling and field reports to figure out exactly what's up. But I know a part of it has to do with lack of a killer instinct. I'm still getting a lot of girls out, and fairly quickly, but not being a good enough leader in the final 5 percent. If I close, it's all good, but if not, I get ghosted 100 percent of the time because I've set myself up as the cool, sex-worthy guy. There's no middle ground with me anymore. If I'm honest, I'm still reeling over the first ever solid 8 I plated. It was long distance (I know I know) and her interest went from sky high for 3 months to nothing. I ended it late last year (she probably would've soon enough) but it's still messing with me a bit.
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Samonji 5y ago
Great post OP, we need more of this stuff.
Also, how can someone work on becoming more congruent?
flaxenbillows 5y ago
Can't speak on OP's behalf but congruency is my expertise so I'll give it a go. You need to be brutally honest and take a hard look at yourself. As in your internals. What are you lacking? What are you weak at? If this is not obvious, then you're in denial. I've been there - but it feels fantastic when you finally accept yourself as a flawed person. Even better if you can hyper-analyse your interactions and behaviours in which you fucked up, since this will reveal where your incongruence lies. Don't be the guy with the self-inflated ego too stubborn to accept that he still needs to improve himself. Be humble. What I did was select a certain flaw in my congruence and hyper-focus on it (sort of like monk mode) for a month. It's crazy how you can go from being grossly below average in a certain area (say escalation or leading your interactions confidently with women) to one of the best out there with enough dedication and focus. Good luck.
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AloofusMaximus 5y ago
Absolutely agree here (and with the OP that most dudes just aren't congruent). Introspection and self criticism are fucking hard and scary.
Knowing others is wisdom;
Knowing the self is enlightenment.
Mastering others requires force;
Mastering the self requires strength
GarethBaleWannabe 5y ago
Excellent first post, you shed light on something that has been overlooked, but it is a fundamental life concept.
I think congruency is a big part of trust. No one likes a phony. If you say you can do x, you better deliver otherwise the trust is broken. Women are pretty damn harsh when it comes to judging congruency, but beta men tend to be lax in expectations of congruency, which is why they tend to be screwed over.
randomTATRP 5y ago
great post.
even tho, you can't get congruent if you don't fail. fake it till you make it i'd say. keep trying.
teveza11 5y ago
Great post. The congruency angle is genius. You can become that person though. I don't know how hard it is.
I grew up in a tough neighborhood surrounded by killers, gangsters, thieves, and drug addicts.
I didn't get red-pilled, I have known the true nature of people growing up.
I understand that the people who use the internet and reddit and read articles are blue pilled, but not everyone is.
My life with women is a towering success. I just act like myself at this point.
IAMB4TMAN 5y ago
To be even more particular, I noticed the break in 'congruency' is usually in Escalation instead of succumbing to shit tests from angles sidebar TRP doesn't go over.
Second to Escalation, assuming you're a 7+ in terms of looks (be honest with yourself), is determining when shit tests become comfort tests.
Overall though, call to action of this post doesn't change what TRP advocates for new RP members: that is, approach women, interact with women, and do this as frequently as possible. You will make mistakes, but the overall philosophy of TRP is to put yourself in situations where you're making mistakes, and having the ability to learn from them each time
z2a1-9 5y ago
Good shit bub and on point!
dingleburry_joe 5y ago
I can relate to this a lot. There’s a point in our lives when taking red pills that we start to see this very thing. You can easily eat laid by exhibiting red pill behaviours looking good and lifting but the longer term shit when spinning plates or Ltr comes with shit test and the psychological battle within. It’s a constant fight for frame. not in winning it but trying not to give it a way and fucking myself. Congruency is part of being successful in that battle. Many of the red pill pros or older folks know how the covert psychological frame battle works but many young men are fighting a battle their enemy is well versed in.
I speak from experience and fuck up often. But I see to be learning more and understanding how this shit works each time. Reading this shit helps but applying it is a whole different reality. Even if I’m not at the top of the mountain I work every fucking day to do what’s needed and this site has changed my life significantly and helped me avoid making terrible mistakes.
Great post for thought.
herpaderpadont 5y ago
Even by practicing and getting it right half of the time, I do believe we are better than most of the beta dudes out there.
Conditioning is hard to kill. Being beta is easy. Blame everyone else, don't take care of yourself, and become one of those dudes that caters to his woman's every need while never getting sex.
I will take failing from time to time practicing red pill than failing all of the time and giving up.
Knowledge
Strategy
Execution
Evaluation
Never let your guard down.
bestsparkyalive 5y ago
Fuck this hits home for probably most of us on this sub. It sure hit home for me lol. Last 2 chicks I almost banged what happened to cause it to fall apart. The initial alpha behaviours had them juicy for me and then when I IMMEDIATELY turned back to good old beta bucks it sure falls apart quick.
doorterblack 5y ago
When you’ve got oneitis for a chick, it becomes a cycle. Tighten your game, she shows interest, game weakens as a result, she loses interest, repeat. If you’re not careful, you’ll get trapped, instead of doing what a real alpha would do and next the bitch.
bestsparkyalive 5y ago
I’m having a date with a cute girl off tinder. It’s good so far. Just texted a little bit to set and then confirm the date a few days later. Not replying super fast. Keeping it chill. I have to keep it together. Wish me luck boys
OD_GOD 5y ago
If this hits home for you just read Roosh Vs book “game” because he basically just regurgitated a section of it into this post.
Edit: although the post is good he could have gave the Roosh and his book credit.
flaxenbillows 5y ago
Yeah man I’ve fucked up in the same way countless times. It’s not always a case of “reverting back to beta bucks”, usually for me anyway it’s just not being able to carry thru my alpha persona in certain other contexts. It’s bound to happen when you’re trying to work on yourself and change so radically. Keep at it man. Be congruent.
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RiskyRewarder 5y ago
I can see someone watched the pickup artist, starring Mystery
maroonblood94 5y ago
Damn, this hits home. Kinda similar to perfecting a skill. You start off looking like an imbecile. Then, you’re able to perform the skill 50% of the time. Finally, once you’ve fully invested and put in the practice, you can perform the skill 100% of the time.
Varsel 5y ago
Acting class would go along way to maintaining focus, staying in character, etc.
NoKoala4 5y ago
I think this needs to be preached much more here in TRP, people who start out here and apply the principles immediately after reading would get shit-tested hard and be broken. I know this first hand because this has already happened to me, people will get shocked by you and see you as a threat.
It's a good post, and I wish I would've read a post like this before.
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