https://www.pluralist.com/posts/1901-895-post-me-too-wellness-retreat-teaches-men-how-to-be-good-feminists/partners/43969
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Well, fellas, this article gave me a good laugh. This came up on my FB because a friend commented on it. I read the headline & instantly though, "nah, thanks, I'm good, sounds like a bad time to me." Then I actually clicked on the article and I laughed even harder when I read that this took place in the town I grew up in: Ojai, California.
Reflecting back on growing up in Ojai there is a lot to be grateful for, but over the last few years it's really been overrun by hyper-liberal mentalities & has become sort of a hot-spot weekend vacation town for the Hollywood/Santa Monica wealthy yuppies. I actually moved away to Boise, ID when I was 20 years old, back in '05. I spent the following 10 years in Boise, but after I split with my chick I got a bit homesick & moved back to Ojai. At first, I was excited to be back around my family, but after about 2 years I grew tired of the pussy-whipped liberal bullshit & unreasonable housing costs & just moved back here to Boise 3 months ago and feel like I'm in the company of good people. But seeing this article and finding out that it took place in Ojai was not shocking in the least, but a huge reaffirmation that moving away from that area was the right move on my part.
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That article is a crock of shit.
Constatine7 5y ago
Holy shit: "Surnow, who -- being a caustic feminist herself -- apparently needed her "faith in the male species" to be "renewed," attended the resort for a weekend in July so she could observe how forty well-earning men come to grips with the toxicity of their own sexuality." They referred to males as the 'male species'.
Bloody_Rekt_Tim 5y ago
Damn, I didn't even catch that! The writer actually views men as a different species! That's fucked!
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punchyson 5y ago
Beta gets sexual with a woman = #metoo
Alpha gets sexual with a woman = #soakedpussy
tekn0_ 5y ago
Dude.. Like what's the deal with people moving to Boise ID? I have heard that many people from CA is actually leaving San Francisco because of the rising costs and moving to Boise, ID. What's really happening there in Boise?
Bloody_Rekt_Tim 5y ago
Reasonable cost of living, a pretty solid & growing economy in both skilled trade & tech, and plenty of beautiful natural resources in surrounding areas. Perfect 4 season weather. Don't move here though, we're full! haha
NormalAndy 5y ago
Anyone planning on going to encourage a bit of spontaneous hypergamy?
AllahHatesFags 5y ago
They probably teach them how to prep the bulls too.
Dichotopotamus 5y ago
Wow... this article just reminds me of the extreme contrast to how men are treated in USA vs Latin America.
I just came back from two weeks in Colombia, a paradise for men where women are VERY feminine and celebrate it. They are very outgoing, very friendly, and always look good. Seriously the prettiest women I've ever seen. Whiplash in the mall and club from looking back and forth. Here in the states they would be called names by other jealous women. The ugliest women I saw in Medellin, by far, were American or European tourists who looked like sloppily dressed pigs compared to these gorgeous local Colombian women. The American girls danced on top of the bar drunk while these hot women by buddy and I were with just laughed at them and danced with us.
I had a discussion with one girl I went out with about the feminist and social justice train that the USA experiences. She just didn't get it.. at all. She said it is viewed as stupid in Colombia. The women in Latin America, especially Colombia, like dressing well to look good for men. They love to cook for their man and they can't wait to have kids and raise them. All they ask in return is that a guy is loyal and not broke. Yes the women are so plentiful and available there, it's that difficult to stick with one girl.
Meanwhile here in the USA we get this Beta Man Bootcamp? I think I should hang up my spurs and move to Colombia. I locked women there much faster than here. They don't play games. They genuinely want to meet a MAN, not the beta cuck that comes out of these retreats. What the hell is happening to America???? Sorry for rant but I am home 3 days and regret it.
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Colombian women are great. In general they're hot as fuck and very feminine like you mentioned. In Colombian culture it's a woman's job to cook and clean for her man and be a good wife.
But just so you know there are caveats. Colombian women are a lot less likely (in general) to have one night stands. And when you go on dates with them you as the man are expected to pay.
But if you are a well put together American man in Colombia you can be banging legit 9's and 10's who like to cook and clean lol. I've been once but I kinda want to just move there for an extended period of time.
Dichotopotamus 5y ago
Yup, exactly!!! But to stay on topic, I'm sure you agree that this discussion on Colombian women is not necessarily to trash American women, but simply to highlight the cultural differences between the more European style liberalism that the USA is heading towards vs. the old world conservative culture that Latin America still holds on to when it comes to dating and relationships.
Bloody_Rekt_Tim 5y ago
I have a sudden urge to visit Colombia.
majaka1234 5y ago
Massive difference.
I lived in Colombia for close to three years - don't get me wrong there are the same stupid feminist movement groups around once you get out of parque lleras and live like a local.
Fortunately it's kept largely to the universities and tends to be the same type of girl who get their opinions and styles from Instagram.
MarcosDomingues 5y ago
No one in my area knows about "Social Justice" or "Third wave feminism" lol. These topics are just irrevelant outside the US and Canada, or the Internet.
Dichotopotamus 5y ago
My family is from Colombia so I didnt just stick to touristy Parque Lleras. I was all over the place. Yes there are younger women into feminism, but as said earlier, it's a fringe movement and not the way the local people think in general. I mentioned all this just to note that this phenomenon of "shaming male oppressors" is an American thing and seen as quite silly elsewhere. It was nice to be somewhere that values a man's success instead of shaming him for it.
melungeonmuscle 5y ago
Man I fucking love Colombian women. That would be where I'd go if I was trying to get another woman. This country fucking sucks and is full of estrogenic cucks
HaroldTFinch 5y ago
STFU about Colombia.... No need to interest a few thousand more guys. But, you aren't lying. I don't want anything with a USA chica anymore.
majaka1234 5y ago
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Mira a parque lleras parce. Ya todos conocen a Colombia.
Relajate papá que no sos nada único.
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Just_Isaak 5y ago
“Because men have historically done so badly by women it’s difficult to be proud of who we are and what we have the ability to contribute,” Dallas told Surnow. “A space like this is so unique because we can actually be applauded and appreciated in a way that’s very meaningful.”
Proper cucking at its finest gentlemen.
tradprim 5y ago
This quote was so bad that I literally almost downvoted your comment. Holy Christ. Imagine being such a faggot that you think it’s difficult to be proud of being a man. (The ones who built philosophy, science, and civilization...)
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they have penis guilt.... probably a very small amount of it too.
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Any time an individual assumes guilt for some "group" that they're supposedly part of, you know that person has gone full retard.
Certain people and organizations stand to gain quite a lot if they can convince you to assume guilt. Some product, solution, or movement is always there to fill your void that you weren't even aware of until these fucks tried to convince you that there was something wrong in the first place.
You're an individual above all else. Don't let anyone strip you of that.
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Orbiter45 5y ago
Our culture has expanded in such a away, that many people see geographical borders as a hindrance, rather than an ancient form of protection.
Western culture has been so successful in the last 5-6 centuries we have become conceited.
redpillcad 5y ago
If men have done so badly by women then why do they need us so so bad? Ever seen a woman who dont need no man? Trainwreck
Aggressive_Beta 5y ago
It turns out that growing up without a red pill father, failing to secure commitment from an Alpha Bucks, riding the CC, getting alpha widowed by Chad(s), getting a college degree, having a career as a strong independent womyn, hitting the wall, marrying a beta, pumping out a few kids, divorce raping him, suddenly finding she's unable to attract the same Chads she did in her youth, and turning into a crazy old cat lady wondering "where have all the good men gone?" does not in fact make women happy.
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Moreofmore 5y ago
This is the message that needs to get out there
redpillcad 5y ago
dont confuse men's winning sexual strategy with women's losing tactics....what this community is trying to get out there is that pussy is a perishable commodity and a mans commitment is the real prize
-Radical_Edward 5y ago
Sorry, a man commitment is not the real price, too many betas out there.
Moreofmore 5y ago
Recognizing the strategy that it is for one gender is just as necessary as for the other. Most men, myself included, had to recognize something was off with women’s strategy before I could recognize my own strategy for what it was was off, which is how most of us ended up here.
hirokinae 5y ago
Makes sense. Let a woman teach you how to be a man... lol.
While we're at it, lets have white people teach black people how to be proper blacks.
Maybe asians can teach whites how to act like a family loving white person.
maybe transgenders can show straight people how to be good cis individuals.
Every one of the above sentences is ridiculous, but somehow... its reality.
hulk_hogans_alt 5y ago
They’re ridiculous statements but they make about as much sense as feminists teaching men how to act. I know that’s what you meant but I feel the need to emphasize that’s what’s literally happening here, no two ways about it. Any guy who would do this has no self respect.
Bloody_Rekt_Tim 5y ago
My FB comment was "This is like a zebra consulting a pack of lioness on what to eat for dinner."
And I believe that analogy fits quite nicely...
XeRefer 5y ago
Let the deer show us how to hunt.
tekn0_ 5y ago
Love the Beige Phillip podcast
OmegaMan2 5y ago
As a hunter of deer and elk, it is wise to study your prey. Learn their habits, their strengths and weakness's.
When I started hunting I was skunked for the first three years until I decided to study the deer and learn everything I could. I now get my deer every year ;-)
I would suggest that the men on this site should pick up a rifle, learn how to hunt and shoot and then to go out and test their skills in the wild.
Go out and bring home meat for the family!
My motto is "One shot, one kill"
King_Neptune07 5y ago
Somebody who's woke should go to this retreat as an undercover agent
Agree & amplify while you're there
hirokinae 5y ago
Even better; let the deer teach you why your toxic carnivorism is damaging to the human race.
OmegaMan2 5y ago
Nothing tastes better than a barbecued deer steak. It is all natural additive free meat. It's also lean so you to be careful with the barbecue, but done right there is nothing better.
Pestilence1911 5y ago
Deer hamburger is great in pasta, or Kraft Dinner.
hirokinae 5y ago
yes but what about the toxic carnivorism you're committing.
itoshirt 5y ago
I tried to explain why you shouldn't listen to a woman's general advice on how to get girls numbers on tinder (she literally said to not ask...) on another subreddit. I don't think people like this being pointed out after that experience.
scissor_me_timbers00 5y ago
Fuckin libcucks man. The abyss of virtue signaling grows ever deeper...
VillagersUnite 5y ago
It will be a cold day in hell before I let a feminist teach me how to be a man and how to interact with women. That's what fathers are for.
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90% of western fathers are worthless in this regard as well.
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agentx23 5y ago
Gives me confidence to start my Ethical Cucking Agency to all you TRP'ers. I'll peacock as a higher status/wealthy man (with your money) and show them they need to appreciate what they got. Contact me for all your hypogamy needs.
Ninokun 5y ago
and after the meeting they get fucked by their latin gardener who doesnt even speak a word of english but just fucks them and presses his finger on their mouth like the little slut they are.
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So fucking pathetic it’s disgusting
TheTrenTrannyTrain 5y ago
Male feminists should all get a Darwinian award, for weeding themselves out of the gene pool.
ahab_dies 5y ago
I don't know man, it's coming out more and more how rapey male feminists are so they do still get laid.
Hjalmbere 5y ago
They’re playing with fire as they’re getting laid with the type of fucked up women who are the most likely to report them for regret rape.
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Fight Club definitely could not get published or made into a movie today.
geo_gan 5y ago
Speaking of this, when are they going to remake this movie with some women beating the shit out of each other? Isn't that what feminists want? ...
Field_Of_View 5y ago
no, it would be a woman beating the shit out of men.
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Nov51605 5y ago
I bet if they paid just a few hundred more, they could have the honor of getting pegged by those bitchsplainers too
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Bloody_Rekt_Tim 5y ago
Right? Curious... what's your experience of Ojai? Not like many people know of it, so I'm always interested of those who are familiar
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Bloody_Rekt_Tim 5y ago
Ugh. They all just go to Ojai to "find healing, practice yoga, eat vegan meals, and take pictures for Instagram in front of quaint-looking Spanish-influenced buildings."
The same fucking morons who love the Spanish architecture, but meltdown at the idea that native cultures were decimated by the spread of European religion. Bitch, all the Spanish missions were build by Catholics missionaries who came & said "fuck you" to the American Indian tribes & built monuments to Jesus.
PS2Errol 5y ago
If they are stupid enough to sign up for this then they deserve everything they get.
ahab_dies 5y ago
The idea that women are the primary victims of men... Ridiculous. Women are most men's primary goal in life: to protect and fucking serve them. It's hard wired into the very biology that makes us. It's that hard wiring that keeps them alive and they're lucky it's there in men, because if it weren't there we'd see a lot more men taking zero of this bullshit and women having to fend for themselves.
If every one of us decided to MGTOW or turn gay women would be doomed.
Bloody_Rekt_Tim 5y ago
Well, to be fair, if every man went gay or MGTOW, men would be doomed too haha
RPLawyer 5y ago
Maybe the dude who founded this reeducation camp is playing 4D chess and realised that this way a good way to make money off of the Californian soyboy who feels really guilty about having a dick?
SirKolbath 5y ago
Goddammit! You think it's too late to market that idea and do it ourselves?
SuperCrazy07 5y ago
Or he wants to screw their women while the soyboys watch...after all, a non-toxic man cares that his wife's needs are met.
NormalAndy 5y ago
Interestingly enough this IS the model for creating docile, compliant slave workers in the 21st century. Trp is singled out as a threat because it is incompatible with this plan to create a tribe of humans who oppress themselves and need very little controlling as they tear each other down instead.
It cannot last.
ReasonablyGoodMexica 5y ago
What kind of evil motherfucker would to this to a fellow blue pilled brother? Isn't their suffering already enough?
Bloody_Rekt_Tim 5y ago
Knowing the type of feminist dickwads in Ojai, I highly doubt that.
chances_are_ur_a_fag 5y ago
not when you read his bio and look at him
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This is what happens when we let women have positions of power
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Things will never return to normal until we strip their right to vote. Period.
Nov51605 5y ago
i like how it's $895. As far as paying that to be around women, that's about 3 hours with a really hot escort where I live
RobotAntidote 5y ago
I think this might be a front for a really good lay deal. Just sayin
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lastdumra 5y ago
The feminist/SJW movement of today is equivalent to the hippy movement of the late 60's early 70's, all over again. It is not surprising California was at the forefront back then as it is now.
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They have voting power. That really explains everything.
Bloody_Rekt_Tim 5y ago
Duh, dude, women aren't held accountable for their actions because they are all victims of the patriarchy and toxic masculinity, obviously. I mean, she may have invited you, she might have been all over you, but that's probably because she had a few drinks and was incapable of consent, so, basically, you're a rapist piece of shit. Also, her boyfriend is the example of a REAL man because he's fine with his girlfriend exploring her sexual desires, which may or may not include him.
All of the above is inherently true, except when it's more convenient that they are strong, independent women who are equal to men in every conceivable way.
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BewareTheOldMan 5y ago
"This is a plot..."
Indeed - check this out and note the "evolving definition" of masculinity.
https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=evolve+the+definition+video&view=detail&mid=E70ABE050A47B4E378B0E70ABE050A47B4E378B0&FORM=VIRE
#EvolveTheDefinition
This is one man’s critique of the ad. Spoiler Alert - dude hated the ad.
https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=evolve+the+definition+video&view=detail&mid=8496291E1E45E6C5B41A8496291E1E45E6C5B41A&FORM=VIRE
Title - Evolve The Definition is Genius Marketing
cc – u/Mattcwu
cc – u/VillagersUnite
cc – u/TheTrenTrannyTrain
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cc – u/8trius
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Interesting theory. I too believe that the gay activists are consciously trying to effeminate heterosexual men through this shit and subsequently convert them into gays, so that they'll utterly have a greater pool of potential lovers. Islamists are also pushing the same agenda (just check how often Al Jazeera+ promotes LGBTQ and trannies while in its base country, Qatar, gays are in prison) in order to weaken Western men and occupy their countries without resistance through mass Muslim immigration.
SocialCupcake 5y ago
More gays, less kids, need to import more. More immigrants means more welfare, means Democrat votes, means Democrats keep their multi million dollar mansions and pass on their rule to their children. A never ending dynasty that leaves the working Man out.
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Until the islamists in the West claim power (through elections, armed struggle or both) and overthrow the "degenerate" secular Western elites. Not even a deal between the Western elites and those of Saudi Arabia and Qatar could save them, because Saudi and Qatarian elites will be the first ones to be overthrown by ISIS-type grass-root islamists.
TheBadGoy 5y ago
They forgot to add (And That's A Good Thing!)
seedster5 5y ago
Ooofff I need to lay down. My brain has had enough for today. Seedster5 is done with Sunday.
Mr_Badass 5y ago
There is some feminist at a HR Department who be thrilled to send her employees to this retreat.
Andgelyo 5y ago
That guy looks like his girlfriend/wife regularly sodomizes him with a wooden dildo lmao no thanks Jeff
Bloody_Rekt_Tim 5y ago
That's no "Jeff." That's a Zander.
JADuCharme 5y ago
One of the best way to make money in 2018.
twofones 5y ago
In every instance of cuckery small or large scale, one foots the bill for his own cucking. “There are no victims only volunteers”
8trius 5y ago
I read one, “25 Ways to Raise Feminist Boys.”
You’re in Boise, too? There needs to be a Red Pill meetup of some kind. Haven’t found anyone here yet of this mentality.
Bloody_Rekt_Tim 5y ago
Honestly, I'm kinda new-ish to the whole idea... I was just introduced to the idea that I don't have to live like a pussy in the last year or so, haha. But yeah... meet me in the gym, I guess?
_Last_Man_Standing_ 5y ago
we can't have a meetup... feminazis would protest... got us arrested and shite...
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Cloudsurf89 5y ago
Anyone prepared to go along and just gradually crank up their #Toxicmasculinity throughout the weekend and report back?
Would be happy to help crowd fund it!
graceful_aggression 5y ago
Economics. If there was a demand for that sort of service, so be it. Ingenious business idea if there are actual men that part with that sort of money for this. Don't get me wrong, the whole 'toxic masculinity' concept is well.. toxic. But if there are men (boys) out there that think they need to be healed for being a man then... well they are lost. I am curious whether these people perhaps with certain issues in life, bother going to trusted friends, and family prior to spending hard earned dough on well what truly is, gynocentric pseudoscience.
lenovoisshit 5y ago
Who is this friend of yours who commented on this. Should unfriend him.
Bloody_Rekt_Tim 5y ago
Interesting, since you don't know the context of his comment
no_its_a_subaru 5y ago
Umm why would I pay for this shit?! If I wanted to be told how “shitty, misogynistic, sexist, an bad man” I am i could start a twitter account and get it for free lol. Fucking simps.
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cglehosit 5y ago
I’m from Boise! Great place
Bloody_Rekt_Tim 5y ago
Sure is! Obviously I think so as this isn't even where I grew up, but still feel more at home here than where I was raised.
billsmashole 5y ago
We need to send all the incels to camp so they can do finger-painting and cooking
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I_am_Jax_account 5y ago
lol @ "business men" who pay $900 for this BS. Just prostrate yourself for women over and over and over again and someday they will love you like your mommy should have.