This thread is a goldmine and life fuel for anyone that has any second thoughts or doubt about how to live your life.
If you ever have to abandon the life of the plow horse, take inspiration from these dirty old men that made up for lost time.
http://archive.li/5aJvp Enjoy!
Some themes.
All the women are "low quality trash." Lot's of these guys aren't successful, aren't impeccable, more or less, these are u/VasiliyZaitzev's brothers in arms. Just like you'll "never find another girl like her" or you'll "die alone" or anything else, use this thread to see what it's really like when you let the blue pill dream die and live for yourself.
The story is simply that my father is an irresponsible creep. It was just the two of us when I was growing up, but he made it clear he was resentful having to take care of me. He's in his 60s. I'm 34, my older half sister turns 40 in a few days. My youngest half brother just turned 2. I'm sure I have siblings I don't even know about. His current wife is maybe 30 and by far the oldest woman he's ever been with. He cheated on his last wife with her. His last wife was 19 when they met (I was 17). But that was better than his previous girlfriend before that, who was a few months younger than me, and I was 17. I always make sure that his baby mamma's know that I'll always be there for them and their kids when he leaves, because he's GOING to leave. It's interesting watching how surprised they are when he does.
What a creep! Seriously ;)
I found out my dad died because he stroked out while in a motel with someone younger than me. This was (to our knowledge) the third time he'd cheated in a long term relationship, and he was already married to someone 20 years younger than him. None of this really affected me because I knew he was a piece of shit for years so I guess it's not really a great answer to this thread but it's still kind of amazing.
A real piece of shit.
Not younger than me, but around the same age. I am (almost) 20 and my dad recently married a 23 year old (my dad is 43). Now, that doesn’t seem so bad, but my dad is a high school teacher and she was his student for four years. I was very close friends with my dad’s now-wife in high school, to the point where she would sleep over at my house. My dad was always a little too close to her and when my mum and dad divorced during my sophomore year my dad began an official relationship with her. It happened so quickly that my mum and I were sure that they had something going on before the divorce and while she was still underage/my dad’s student. But we had no proof and she had recently graduated, so there was nothing we could do. Of course, word got out about it at my school and it was all anyone would talk about. People would call my dad a pedophile and there were all sorts of rumors going around. It was pretty rough. When all of this went down, I didn’t talk to my dad or my ex-friend for about a year and I still have a very damaged relationship with both of them. Now they’ve been married for almost a year and have a baby on the way.
Nice.
My dad is 71. 6 months ago he left my mom for a 25 year old. I’m 33 and my sister is 28. His new girlfriend is 6 months pregnant. They’re not married because my parents divorce hasn’t gone through yet
This guy must be rich!
Nah, he’s a broke retired school teacher who works part time in retirement. The girl is just your typical damaged southern trailer trash. She already has one kid, and got arrested for giving her infant beer at a concert... it’s as white trash as it gets. They live together at her grandma’s house.
Nope!
my dad is 65 and he's in a relationship with someone who's 26 (so 8 years younger than me). They've been together for 3-3,5 years and are happy together, and I'm happy for them. At first it was a bit awkward for me, up to the point that it took me a half year before I decided to meet them together (at first I just met with my dad alone every week). I was mainly worried about my dad (still am, a bit), he came out of a long relationship that went really bad (got cheated on after 8-9 years) and he had a really rough time with it. So I was scared he would end up in the same depression if this one went bad as well (not because of cheating, but the age difference eventually could catch up to them, as an issue). I've spoken openly about my worries with my dad, a few times, along the last 3 years, and it will take time for them to actually go away... There's a 38 year age gap and my dad, at some point, will get health issues because of age and I'm cautious of what will happen.
FYI your dad doesn't give a flying fuck. He's having the time of his god damn life.
Dad is a serial monogamer? He has been married 4 times. This last wife is 5 yrs younger than me. She is 25. My dad is 52. She gave birth to my brother last year which resulted in an interesting conversation with my kids. Me showing my 6 and 5 yr olds a picture of their new uncle. Me: look guys this is your new uncle isnt he cute? Kids: thats not an uncle THATS A BABY! (caps are accurate) Smh She is young as hell and acts like it and my dad is hella gross for dating a girl younger than his daughter. But its his life. It makes for weird genealogy talks with others but thats all.
Hella gross!
She's not my stepmom because my dad has no interest in being married again. But my dad's long term girlfriend is 26. He's 67 and I'm 30. They met at grown folks night at a local night club. The funny thing is she had a crush on me when I was in high school and she was in middle school. I turned her down of course for being too young. She wasn't too young for him now though. I have no problem at all with it actually. She works full time and is also getting her Masters. My dad helps her like any other boyfriend would financially, but he isn't spoiling her with money like a sugar daddy. From what I can see, she actually likes his old ass for some reason and isn't using him.
Oh man. He couldn't even find a way to slander his red pilled dad. Guy must be bulletproof!
My dad is married to a 25 yr old waitress. I am 26. When I was 18/19. Me and my family used to go to the place she waited at and every time I would silently pray we were going to seated in her section (because I had a huge crush.) My dad would always be a dad and drop some dad jokes, waitress style. I always thought she was laughing at these jokes to be polite, turns out she thought they were genuinely funny. They got together 5 yrs ago. He still goes to the same place to eat, and she’s still his waitress... the jokes are worse now though. Edit: Yes my mom was a part of the the family that went. My parents marriage was already falling to pieces, they split soon after I turned 18, but tried a few times to work things out.
You snooze you lose son!
I’m 35 and my dad’s wife is 25. I now have a little sister that is 6.5 years younger than my son (he is 10). I always considered my dad an “old” dad when I was younger, always much older than my peers’ fathers anyways, but now he is in his 70’s and constantly tired from toddler antics. Honestly, I love his new wife.
A wholesome ending here folks. Don't be fooled. You can be dickin' down girls in their 20s while you're 70. Just have the balls to live your life on your terms.
Dad married a woman 30 years younger than him. She was barely 2 years older than my big sister. He had younger girlfriends ever since his divorce, so I never really thought it out of the ordinary.
These guys get it. I've only scratched surface of the stories in that thread.
Enjoy!
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Just-A-Small-Rabbit 5y ago
My Dads 58 and does a lot of that. I can't really judge him and the girls for it since i like older men. Every lady in my family including my own mother ended up with an older dude with a 16 year age difference at the least. As long as no one is underage i don't care what they do.
guard123 5y ago
I'm okay with old men fucking hot chicks but FUCK man get that old man a vasectomy!!!!!
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whostonedtx 5y ago
My bf is late 30s and I just turned 25. I chose him because strangely some guys my age have more baggage than he does (baby mamas, still hurt by their first long term relationship gone sour, live with parents or in a trashy 2 bedroom apartment with 6 people where furniture consists of a beer pong table and inflatable mattresses)
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damageddude 5y ago
I was married 20 years when my wife passed (breast cancer). I started chatting with a woman whose mother also passed from breast cancer at the same hospital. Long story short, I'm now a 50 year old dating a 28 year old. It's been interesting.
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Big_Daddy_PDX 5y ago
Yeah, I had a choice btwn my chronically overweight wife of 18yrs that had BPD & Anger Control issues and a sensationally got and smart 27yr old. Dropped my Ex happily as she brought zero value to my life and was not going to change. It is shocking how sweet life is lately when I spend it w/ a high value woman w/ strong TRP morals. Damn youth is intoxicating.
long-lostfriend 5y ago
Oh, you were married to her, too? We divorced after 15 years, and the dumb bitch thought she had a branch to swing on before her obesity caused it to break.
Me? I ended up with a kind, smart, pretty one seventeen years younger than me.
nester79 5y ago
Being overweight is an unacceptable aspect to a mate. Never settle for that shit.
Brutal13 5y ago
BPD is a good option to chill and have fun. Non-LTR material but still.
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PS2Errol 5y ago
I don't know why women find it hard to understand that post-wall they basically have zero attraction. It's just virtually nothing. Personally they don't register for me at all.
Put them next to a 20-28yr old and there is just no competition.
redpillbanana 5y ago
Or maybe her dad was eager to celebrate his freedom and as soon as the judge stamped his divorce papers he decided to take action and see if the flirting and chemistry was real.
"...nothing we could do." What did they want to do, exactly? It's obvious that they wanted to legally and financially nail him to the wall. No one cared if he and his new wife are happy and thrilled to be together; he must go to jail and/or pay more alimony as punishment for dating someone much younger than him.
The blue pill world would like nothing better than to make it illegal to date outside your "appropriate" age range.
MaximiliionPegasus 5y ago
That is really really fucked up indeed. WHY the fk won't she want to let them live happily?
22Luika 5y ago
That little detail is terrifying
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I always wonder about the men who have managed to plow their way through scores of women and end up having children spanning the map, especially in America. Just how do they manage the financial support, especially if they aren't married?
luxtractatori 5y ago
Here's the secret. They don't.
SlimJim8686 5y ago
Yeah for real. My friend's father is like this. The guy never married, is ~55, and has 4 kids with the oldest aged 25 or so down to ~3, all with different women. His business was never successful; the guy never made much money in his working life but always had new women around. I'm surprised he only has 4 kids. I sincerely doubt it'll be the last one. I know he's always dead broke and I can't imagine he's paid much child support over the years, and somehow, despite all the horror stories, he's still around and hasn't been in arrears AFAIK or been arrested.
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It’s because he’s broke & the women know that you can’t get blood from a rock so they don’t bother. Ironic how you have to be broke to avoid divorce rape.
SlimJim8686 5y ago
Yeah, I’m pretty sure it’s a case of “he can’t pay it so why bother going after him.”
Seems to be a decent strategy.
Entropy-7 5y ago
I recall reading a news article about a guy with 43 kids. He only had something just above a minimum wage job so it was the baby mammas and the taxpayers who will pay.
mattizie 5y ago
And this is why the welfare system is the most destructive thing that can happen to a country.
InternationalProfile 5y ago
The real problem is a society that makes pumping out and then abandoning kids not a big deal. If a deadbeat dad were as unattractive as, say, an STD, this problem wouldn't exist.
Welfare is necessary to keep those kids from starving to death. I'd much rather be a society that looks down hard on dudes for abandoning their kids than one that is OK with kids dying because their parents can't afford food.
mattizie 5y ago
This is the crux of the issue.
No one likes putting down kittens and puppies at the pound, but they do. Why? Because if you feed them and let them breed, you'll get even more kittens and puppies that will starve to death. Everyone wants to feed the animals in the park, but are told not to, why? Because then the animal population grows to an unsustainable level, and many starve when human food is taken away. How has Africa fared after independence and 40 years of aid?
The only reason that society has no problem with pumping out kids, is welfare. That's it. In the past, it was either the husband (so women made sure they found one that would stick around), or family (and the parents made damn sure there were no bastard children) who would
fitfoot the bill, now it's the state, on borrowed money, that no-one feels the impacts of until much later. It makes complete sense from her perspective: breed with the superior man who won't commit, and end up with superior children that can pass on genes, or lower her standards and breed with a safe (but not as good) man that will commit to her, and her children will be the same, but won't have the good looks, charm and muscles as the other guy that would fuck her, but not commit. You can try to make these deadbeat men appear as undesirable to women, but now you're just trying to do the same thing as fat-activists - and that hasn't really changed men's minds regarding fat women now has it?IMO the best solution is charity, and infertility treatments in lieu of extra prison time. Charity works because it is voluntary, the charity doesn't have infinite funds, and isn't tied with politics (where there is an incentive to provide more free shit for votes). Because funds are limited, the charity decides what happens on a case by case basis, so the truly deserving (no drugs, shows up to work/church punctually) get the help they need to get back on their feet, and the drug addicts, abusers, and those that aren't willing to put in any effort, get nothing, and yes, they will starve. Offering infertility treatments should stem prisoners (and people that you don't want in your society) from propagating their genes, and creating the next generation of thieves.
But again, the problem is not just a society that looks down on dudes for abandoning their kids. The problem is that it is completely unsustainable. And much like the examples above, you're now going to have to watch hundreds of millions starve (and starving people are very dangerous) rather than just a few unfortunate souls. The US alone is in huge debt, and had to create all these problem in the world to secure the petro-dollar (iraq, libya, syria), so that they can keep printing money to feed the starving people.
It's cruel, but this is the red pill. It doesn't matter how you feel about the subject, what matters are the facts. Pick your poison: face the truth and deal with the uncomfortable problems now, or let it fester and leave the exponentially worse problems to your children.
InternationalProfile 5y ago
Any argument comparing starving human beings to animals at the pound is pants-shittingly retarded. Human beings are not the same as animals. Shooting a deer is not the same as shooting a person. You're wrong from the start. But for the sake of discussion:
This is so obviously wrong it's painful. People had big families before welfare, and famines (literally people having too many kids to feed) happened before welfare. U.S. family sizes are trending down, as is the preference for larger families.
Government-mandated sterilization. What could go wrong? Not to mention the absurdity of railing against the evils of government for most of your comment, and then doing an about-face and trusting the government to sterilize only the bad people.
Not even close. The U.S. is the largest exporter of food in the world. The issue (at least in the U.S.) is how to distribute food to the poors, not that there isn't enough food to go around.
Flintblood 5y ago
This shite turned dark fast. Let’s get back to having a crack shall we?
mattizie 5y ago
I gave the example of the growing population in Africa, mate. Or are they also animals too?
Pumping out kids doesn't refer to just having children, it means having children with no-one to look after them. Before welfare, this wasn't happening anywhere near as much as today.
Not mandated, but you get a reduction in sentence, just like good behaviour. That's one example that I thought may appeal to you. The better way is to let everyone have guns, and let them use it to defend themselves and property, that way criminals will actually be shot (and killed) instead, and by the populace, not the government.
Are you an actual communist? You don't "distribute" food. People buy it. If people can't afford to pay for it, there isn't enough, and food-stamps and welfare is not you affording it. Right now, you're printing money out of nothing so that people can buy food via welfare. If you didn't print money out of nothing, you'd have to sell or export some of your countries food, to pay for other things you want to import. RIGHT NOW there may be enough food to go around, but when the population continues of welfare dependant people continues to grow at a higher rate than that of taxpayers, there very soon isn't enough.
It's people like you that are the reason that socialism and communism exists, and why it's so effective. Think logically, not emotionally.
InternationalProfile 5y ago
You serious right now? You mentioned starving Africans in the context of animal populations growing to unsustainable levels, and now you're trying to pull the "you're racist!" card? Fuck off, troll.
mattizie 5y ago
I'm not calling the racist card you idiot.
I'm saying that in my example, there's no difference between humans and other animals. For all intents and purposes they're the same thing.
Animals' populations will grow when there is more food available. Humans will also do the same. Not very many stop and think: is this sustainable? What happens when it stops?
ben1324 5y ago
Serious... a lot of the younger women I’ve seen with older men are the stripper type. Kind of hot, but kind of trashy. How about the cute preppy girls?
Thotwrecker 5y ago
I feel like older dudes do best with either nerdy shy girls or with trashy golddigger girls (the latter for obvious reasons)
HS-Thompson 5y ago
It's possible to have two views at the same time:
1) There's absolutely nothing wrong with older men and younger women, in fact once could argue that it's far more natural and stable as a relationship model then the current modern union of "equals" bullshit.
2) Most of the examples in the linked post actually seem to be examples of guys that are engaged in pretty trashy and low value behavor. Maintaining a healthy relationship of respect and connection with your adult children is something men should strive for.
ApexmanRP 5y ago
"Maintaining a healthy relationship of respect and connection with your adult children is something men should strive for. "
Yes, of course, as someone who has been through the mill on this, I have come to a balance whereby I will do the best I can for my kids but I will also live my life on my terms.
agree-with-you 5y ago
I agree, this does seem possible.
sadomasochrist 5y ago
If he wants to. Don't ever forget the modern woman's new mantra is "she can do what she wants." Literally. That's what they push at PPD as a moderate viewpoint.
I can assure you that more or less 80% of the guys in that thread started the first half of their lives as plow horses that had their families disrupted by their wives.
As has been posted lately, women are often first in, first out. And if these guys don't want to be single mothers with a penis, then "he can do what he wants."
Are some of these guys monsters who put themselves before their families? Sure. I'd venture a solid 20% of them are. But 80% female driven divorce is all you need to digest.
Eighty percent of women would disadvantage their own children to trade up. That's what these guys are doing, trading up, to the detriment of their kids.
This is what it should feel like to read the stories of women "discovering themselves." When you peel away the veneer of dishonesty from how "they found themselves getting divorced" you'll see the naked truth.
Which will more or less be "I locked down a bigger, better deal, then golden parachuted out. Later sucker,
sorry kids, mommy wants to be happy, the kids deserve parents that don't hate each other, it's better this way."Low_Cost_Chimp_Meat 5y ago
That really is the summation of this thread in a nutshell. Men almost HAVE to experience a divorce rape to "get it", which as you mentioned, is 83% initiated by women. A man has a 54% chance of being served divorce papers, and she'll be filing them 83% of the time. It's really hard to feel sorry for women anymore....the kids get screwed out a solid life with the support of the courts.
ApexmanRP 5y ago
"I locked down a bigger, better deal, then golden parachuted out. Later sucker,sorry kids, mommy wants to be happy, the kids deserve parents that don't hate each other, it's better this way.
So...fucking..true.. and she still goes on to hate you and rip you a new one.. and that's the real kicker. You play it "fair, for the kids" and she sees that as a green light to go in harder.
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I was honestly reading this at first like it was different accounts of the same guy like he was a fucking urban legend or something.
Stron2g 5y ago
I'm telling you, young girls LOVE older men. It's literally easier for a Middle aged man to get with a girl my age than it is for me.
mrcs84usn 5y ago
A friend of mine [F19] was ranting about how her 53 y/o dad was dating a 26 y/o woman. Her comment was about how gross it was. My response was "I'm sure she thought the same thing when she was your age."
VasiliyZaitzev 5y ago
LOL. No doubt her hamster went into cardiac arrest.
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Do daughters just think it's gross because another girl has taken away daddy's attention?
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I suspected as much. Women are such base creatures.
Auvergnat 5y ago
From Rollo's "The Myth of the Lonely Old Man"
VasiliyZaitzev 5y ago
Shamelessly drafting on the top-rated comment...
Guys interested in this topic will enjoy:
Older Men, Younger Women: How & When It Can Work
-For Older Men who prefer Younger Women, and vice versa.
ETA: See also:
Older Men, Younger Women, Part II
p3n1x 5y ago
"Always be fucking" - anonymous old dude to me.
ImmersedTrp 5y ago
Hal Finney, potentially the father of Bitcoin, with his wife near his death:
http://archive.is/AIVze
After all the plates, harems, ONSes, we hope to find someone that will be there for us - for real - but you'll never know if yours is a unicorn till you need her.
[edit: use archive.is]
VickVaseline 5y ago
There are no unicorns, but I do agree with you on one thing: Finney is almost certainly 'Satoshi Nakamoto.'
p3n1x 5y ago
The entire Harem will be there for you if you are doing it right.
ImmersedTrp 5y ago
Haha , I take it as a good point.
ApexmanRP 5y ago
"If you’re single and 50 you STILL have options if you’re only brave enough to explore them."
I will be 50 soon and my girl is a mid thirties smoke show (8.5). Be in shape, have a mission, be the rock that no other man has been for her and you will slay.
DeliciousReality 5y ago
51 here. I've banged more women in their 20's in the last decade (probably 200+) than I did in my 20's & 30's (and I banged A LOT then ????)
I estimate at least 50% of women have an older man fetish, if not higher. They won't talk about it openly but they'll act on it behind closed doors.
Just behave like it's normal and so will they. It helps if you gym tan take care of yourself, dress nice...usual shit of course
ApexmanRP 5y ago
That's some solid numbers!
You should do a post on this. I get the feeling that a lot of the younger guys on here think that gaming ends once you get to 40 or even 30, and you have to LTR up..
I am in an LTR out of choice, but if it detonates, I will go back to gaming 20 somethings..
DeliciousReality 5y ago
Well I live in Asia and have done for 20+ years so being white 6ft tall with blue eyes* doesn't require a lot of game (I have game but if anything in Asia as I'm sure you've read elsewhere being cocky etc can work against you)
If anything it's too easy here sometimes I get bored of all the options and would rather stay in have a wank, watch TV and have a beer. Sometimes having to listen to their mindless babble is not worth the effort.
The problem is quality - I'm English so I like a good conversation/larf with a woman and most Asian women have nothing to talk about and even the hottest, nympho 20 year gets boring fast after you've cum and she's just staring at you with a blank look on her face waiting to be entertained.
Another problem is you can't kick them out too quickly once you've finished or things can turn ugly fast...it's happened to me 3 or 4 times when I've been careless and not ushered them out with enough patience and finesse.
You see they'll come over and fuck you straight away cos they assume you are rich white husband material (which i am lol but I also have fabulous commitment issues) but the moment they get wind you're just using them for a fuck they can turn nasty.
I can see why guys use whores because "you're paying them to leave" but I'm too stingy ???? and I like the "thrill of the chase" even if it's some flirty texting rather than just going for the kill with a straight cash transaction. Obviously I have fucked a whore but it just left me feeling like it was an expensive wank TBH.
But yeah so many 20 something girls are hot for older guys...I lift but I have a beer belly which alot of Asian girls think is a sign of wealth lol (technically it is..I must have pissed away at least a million bucks on beer ????????????)
The thing about Asian girls is they are so tiny that when I stand next to them in a mirror I look like a feckin' Silverback (slightly chubby) Gorilla.
Guys in this sub get overly hung up on looks but I'm just average looking and have fucked maybe 800-1000 women but then I was born naturally Dark Triad and I think it triggers some sort of "he must be a tribal leader" hamster bullshit.
Anyway these days I'm more MGTOW or at least trying to be...but I do like smashing the granny out of LBFM's ????
ApexmanRP 5y ago
You lead an interesting life.. more power to you..
I am nowhere near as prolific as you on the women front. But i know I could start fucking other women pretty quickly if my LTR detonated. She is no unicorn but she suits me very nicely right now. I get sex every other day, of course we dont live together.. and she is a lot of fun.
Its quite easy to employ dread as I am in very good shape, 6 1, 200lbs, light six pack, lowish BF and get a lot of looks from women, which she sees when we are out..
Life in your 40's and 50's can be good!
AuspexAO 5y ago
40 next year. Man, I don’t know about you but the age thing is not a boundary at all. I had one of those weird moments the other day when I was talking to this 22 year old college student at my friend’s party and she kept following me from convo to convo as I mingled. My old BP brain said “she must be scared around all these guys and I’m someone she trusts.” Then, as I’m flirting with a hot PA from my buddy’s office, the girl grabs my hand and kind of presses her whole body up against me in a clear ‘fuck off bitch’ to the much older woman. I will admit that despite fooling around a little I pussied out because it could be professionally awkward if I was fucking some guy’s kid at that particular party.
I’m glad to here that my 50s won’t be the end of these fucking wonderful nights.
ApexmanRP 5y ago
Yeah those little situations are fun!
If you stay in shape, eat right and keep your life on point, its all good.
The good news for us men, is our shelf life is way longer than womens, and actually as an older man who is in shape you are a very rare commodity, to all sorts of women.
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sailorJery 5y ago
I work the door at a dive bar and this is a common occurrence. Some dude who clearly has his shit together with a piece on his arm and the young dudes look at him like he's got their catch. But they'd rather get drunk and talk about how women are all bitches.
ApexmanRP 5y ago
Yes, I totally get that.
The other thing I have is young guys coming up to me and 1) Saying how hot my girl is. 2) Asking how old I am, and then asking my advice about life. Go figure..
Zepode1 5y ago
I believe you simply because nobody my age uses the term smoke show. Keep killing it, man.
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strayaura 5y ago
Divorced here.
30, got a dadbod so I'm not the fittest at the gym. But I'm lifting and eating proper now.
Gf just turned 20. The life issues that seems to,be gigantic for her (totalling a car, hospitalization, not having a job for a few months) don't phase me at all.. Been there, done that, here's what we will do. And the issues get taken care of.
Just by being the rock I'm getting laid twice a day. I like this. In highschool I wasnt getting laid till senior year and even then it was with 5's maybe a 6 and would daydream about sleeping with a 8 or higher. Now my current gf is easily an 8, the only daydreams I have nowadays are with me behind the wheel of a Shelby cobra.
If only TRP and MRP could have existed then. Better late than never.
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sartori47 5y ago
Living the dream - think of all the healthy babies they'll be contributing to society!
ReasonFreak 5y ago
This is pure gold. Thanks for posting!
fromthecrypt8 5y ago
Haha, loved the great commentary after each quotation.
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MattyAnon Admin 5y ago
Two people can do anything they want to.... as long as it doesn't go against the narrative.
Low_Cost_Chimp_Meat 5y ago
That's EXACTLY it. The natural order of millions of years of evolution = older man + younger woman...is now an abomination. Whereas two hideous overweight bulldike lesbians, that contribute NOTHING to human genetic output, are a beautiful thing to be celebrated. Are you proud of them? No? You homophobic racist!
Entropy-7 5y ago
This post is humorous in its own way but not much to brag about for a few reasons.
These older guys are knocking up chicks and then rinse and repeat. I don't see much indication that they are men of means who can "afford" to drop the ball on their first family and then move on to a second or third with a newer, younger girl.
I put "afford" in quotes because maybe they can just get away with it either by living close to the poverty line, or else jumping ship after their first set of kids are grown so that there is no child support.
I would have to question the quality of these younger women. I don't think it is that difficult to nab yourself a 20-something frumpy, dumpy trailer park girl. But doesn't the issue of "quality" come into play here, rather than just age? And what about quantity? Most of the anecdotes have the guy branch swinging once or twice or thrice, but they don't seem to be dating casually or spinning plates.
I'm not saying it's not possible. It's quite achievable but geez, wrap it up and have some dignity in the way you go about it.
Low_Cost_Chimp_Meat 5y ago
It may make you younger guys a bit butt-hurt, however, older guys tend to get the best women. It is the whole primate sexual order of things....think silverback gorilla. Just pick any super hot female celebrity and dig into her past or even present and you'll see the "older guy" that affected her (tingles) the most. Angelina Jolie was a self proclaimed whore for Billy Bob Thorton (wore his blood around her neck), who was 20 years older than her. With Brad Pitt, she was simply a "mom" to his brood....no big arousal for him.
Or look at the recent Allison Mack debacle, where she was a willing sex slave for a man 25 years older than her....he literally owned her mind, body and spirit. Lesbians and feminists have always hated this natural order....thus why YOU question it. It's your blue pill conditioning.
Alas, you'll be there too one day.....and you'll "get it" when a young woman throws her self at you like no other woman ever has.
Entropy-7 5y ago
LOL. I'm 51 and my last three girls have been between a dozen and two dozen years younger, with BMIs between 18 and 20 including a fashion model and another that should have been one.
I'm just question whether their really doing right, cause I know I am and that's not what their doing!
jm51 5y ago
Quality is personal preference. I prefer crazies and druggies to 'regular' women as for me, they're better company and less hassle*. Note 'crazies' not 'nasties'. Many of the frumpy dumpies have strong tendencies toward nastiness.
*I vet for 'play nice' before I even think about anything sexual. If she's a potential nastie, I don't care how big her tits are or how smoking hot her body is, she is not the sort of person that I want to spend time with.
Sometimes they have a play nice disposition but carry too much lard for me so nothing happens.
willowhawk 5y ago
Yeah I always suspect quality when I read these. I remember seeing a pua book or article and the author was going on about how he gets women in his middle age.
Even had some pictures of nights out with women enjoying his company.
The women where fucking abysmal. Wouldn't even give a second look in a club
Entropy-7 5y ago
I'm middle aged but not a PUA. I tightened up my standards in my late 30s and I took a hit on sheer number, but quality went up. Then I moved to China and the game changed completely.
PumpkinFeet 5y ago
How did the game change in China?
Entropy-7 5y ago
Different dating scene; different dynaic. Last three girls I was with had BMIs of 18, 19, and 20 and were anywhere from a dozen to two dozen years younger with one being a fashion model and another one who just looked the part.
Thotwrecker 5y ago
I've seen older dudes get reasonable quality without paying for it. Typically older guys get it through having situational value - ie within some ecosystem they have access to younger women, and that ecosystem gives them value to bat with. For example they are senior at the company and they chat up the intern whos eager to impress them, they are professors within the university ecosystem, they are rich dudes who sponsor poor hotties, they are providing some service that puts them in contact with younger women, they are involved / important in the bar / club scene. One of the sleaziest dirtbags I know is a Dennys manager and he managed to get his wrinkled sausage into one of the fresh-faced, naturally attractive 19 year old waitresses.
It is very much based on situation - older men should consolidate situation power within a circle that lends them access to young attractive women. The quality of women you get is based on what women are in the circle where you have social status. So like an old guy in a club with no social status, no real ability to connect and vibe, he'll just be the old creepy dude. Older dude who's a ballet instructor with prestige and is very selective with his clients, so you feel like it's a privilege to work with him? He can dick them all down (until he gets Weinsteined).
Entropy-7 5y ago
I'm not suggesting the girls are hookers or gold diggers but rather that they make a lot of bad decisions in life, including getting knocked up by the older guy.
Situation power. . .situation status? Is that what Celine Dion's husband had? (He started managing her when she was 13 and he was 39. )
ApexmanRP 5y ago
"I've seen older dudes get reasonable quality without paying for it."
What I know is that if are an "old dude" if you are in great shape and successful, you are a rare breed indeed.. That in itself gets you attention and not just skanky cum-dumpsters..
Throw in some game and its easy to get younger good looking pussy.
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As an old dude in really good shape, yeah. To be in better shape than most men half my age is a fitness indicator. It simply doesn't work the other way around. Women at forty five can be good looking, but it's far more satisfying to plow a fertile young woman.
One female/BP counterargument is "sure, but younger women don't want kids with a guy your age" now, regardless of how true that is, it also gives up my point, that men age like wine (if they're careful) and women age like milk (despite heroic efforts).
To your other point, I don't pay for jack shit. That trope pisses me off. I got fucked in the Great Recession, and now my cash flow goes into debt service and retirement. It's women my age who would get me to spend money I shouldn't be.
ApexmanRP 5y ago
Yes, agree.. I have had my fair share of women in their 40's - no more! I am done, the wrinkles, the lines and the vain attempts to cover them up...
Sorry to hear about your suffering in the recession. The good news is if you are in shape and have game, you don't need to spend much on women!
MattyAnon Admin 5y ago
You're buying into the myth that men must be held responsible for their actions, for supporting their wife and family, etc while women are held to be the victims and must always be supported regardless of their choices in life.
How about SHE fucking pays for once? How about we ask women to support their families, honour their vows, be a good wife, be supportive, be actually pleasant to be around.... rather than blaming men for leaving these horrible shrews.
Men are happier with quantity over quality. A "quality woman" does as much for a man as a "low quality woman": nothing.
Entropy-7 5y ago
In the cases at hand, it seemed that it was the guy who bailed, which is a minority case to begin with. Still, you don't think a guy should support his kids if he bails on them?
But the girls these guys are hooking up with, in most of the examples, don't seem to be all that high quality anyways, plus they are just shacking up again so quantity is only +1.
Thotwrecker 5y ago
Exactly. The nature of life is that betas pay for the collective fallout brought about by alpha "sinning". When corporate alphas dodge taxes and trade favors with political alphas, your economic betas - especially the relatively successful hardworking upper-middle class betas - pay the ~46% federal + state taxes to keep the machine running. When alphas take advantage of hookup culture to run train on 16-25 year old women and leave them as dick-widows, guess who has to cherish the scraps and put the scraps in a Mom lexus? Betas.
It's just the way it is, the hardworking betas make society function, whereas alphas bend the rules to get more than their fair share of rewards, and then make betas pay for their rule-bending.
She's always be able to find some chump to help her deal with her problems. That's why you don't see homeless women. If they get close enough, they lower their standards, suck a little beta dick, move in, and harness his resources to deal with her problems until she's comfortable again.
As a TRPer you shouldn't be butthurt about how betas pay for alpha sins. You should be thinking about how you can switch over to being the guy who does the fucking, instead of being the guy who cleans up the mess. Ultimately the fact that people are so bothered by guys sowing their wild oats and not giving a shit, is because deep down youre resentful because you know you're more on the beta side of the equation.
MattyAnon Admin 5y ago
Well let's not blame men for female choices.
How hardworking are they really though? From what I've seen beta men take the low effort low risk approach to life, and reap low rewards because of it.
I'm not. I'm perpetually irritated by how women are absolved of any responsibility - including to their own children. Men are constantly blamed for everything, women are seen as angels. It's men how have to support both their children AND the women. Women are doing .... well very little frankly.
In the context of children, society should care more about fathers and put more pressure and responsibility on mothers rather than the reverse.
As regards the AF/BB equation there's little doubt which is the best side to be on.
ApexmanRP 5y ago
"I'm perpetually irritated by how women are absolved of any responsibility - including to their own children. "
Women - "bbbut.. If I am haaaappy the kids will be haaaappy.."
No, fuck that you selfish cunt.
MattyAnon Admin 5y ago
Society needs to wake up to how dreadful many mothers are.
ApexmanRP 5y ago
You got to hand it to women, they are master manipulators..
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MattyAnon Admin 5y ago
Why would they suffer if the mother is looking after them?
Kingspot 5y ago
cant believe somebody senior endorsed is saying stupid shit like this.
"single mothers dont need no man!1"
"a father? why would you need one of those?"
MattyAnon Admin 5y ago
What I'm getting at ... although wording badly.... is exactly your point.
It's obscene that men are reduced to wage slaves while being removed from their child's lives. Part of this is pushing all responsibility onto fathers and exonerating mothers from all their actions and inactions.
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MattyAnon Admin 5y ago
It's worse than that... women are raised to be whores, but boys are still raised to support and protect them.
In the last 50 years female responsibility has diminished to almost nothing while men are relentlessly shamed and ridiculed for not "growing up" and "doing the right thing" while women simultaneously reject them for "being too nice".
omega_fat 5y ago
If you care that much about morals and people you don't know indicates you are still a bloopie. The world aside from the closest of your family or friends don't give a fuck if you live or die. The people in power only care about you in a sense, if you are a good little obedient sheep and pay your bills on time.
TheReformist94 5y ago
Hypergamy has no dignity. So neither will polygamy. And no,not for the kids,because hypergamy neither cards when it wrecks husband's and children.
WolfgangBreitweit 5y ago
How come? Many young girls like older men.
rastawalrus 5y ago
I don't see why everyone gets so salty about older men dating younger women. Both my Uncle and grandpa dated women 20+ years younger than them, the uncle was late 40's with a 23yo gf, and he broke up with her because she wanted to get pregnant.
tolerantman 5y ago
Damn its already hard having to compete with Chads, now we have grandpa Chads too, lol
Sparky159 5y ago
Chadpa's are the newfound competitors in the SMP
Andgelyo 5y ago
Nah, young healthy successful and sexually driven Chads will always out slay Grandpa limp dick. Grandpas only out chad normies and betas.
tempolaca 5y ago
> I found out my dad died because he stroked out while in a motel with someone younger than me. This was (to our knowledge) the third time he'd cheated in a long term relationship, and he was already married to someone 20 years younger than him.
A hero, I hope to die like that someday.
Popeman79 5y ago
I gotta disagree here, but to each his own. Good for him to be getting young pussy, but cheating still denotes low value in my view, like you need to be hiding from your LTR.
If your LTR doesn't satisfy you, either:
1) break up with her
2) let her know you're getting pussy on the side to satisfy you
No shame in getting your needs taken of, hiding is entering the woman's frame.
QuakeMcGoon 5y ago
This is the only comment I can truly respect. I guess that's different life views for you.
p3n1x 5y ago
Not the easiest of context. "Neo woke up during the war". Some men got their pill when divorce is not the better alternative. As long as your kids are loved, clothed, fed and have a roof over their head, then your personal health needs trumps everyone else's.
Also, these stories don't have dates and timelines. The pissed off kid says "cheated". The wife always knows or eventually finds out [post for another time or read Black Dragons theory]. I will repeat, the Wife Always Knows! Never believe your arrogance is stronger than her intuition (if she chooses denial, that is a different subject)
People need to dump the "cheated" narrative for anything other than a contract bound relationship (i.e. marriage).
I do agree that your life and bond with her will be easier and stronger via the truth and be being upfront with the women you bed. If you can't admit who you are, you are going to be swept up in a hurricane named Drama.
Hypergamy is real, don't apologize for her and then shame him.
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Most women want a man who can cheat. They don't necessarily want him to do that but they definitley can live with what they dont know about because it isn't flaunted in their face.
See every Hollywood A lister and Politician ever
Popeman79 5y ago
It's true, they crave a man who has options, and a man who has constant options is more likely to cheat. Some women even want a cheater, because it's less pressure for them to keep him satisfied. The only thing they really care about is his unfaltered commitment.
Still, it's not because some women want it that we should do it. Personnaly I don't cheat because I shouln't have to. I get what I want when I want, I shouldn't be hiding from anyone.
[deleted] 5y ago
Yea I just want to steer away from the whole Alphas never lie! bullshit.
The sub is about slaying pussy period. Liars do that too
Popeman79 5y ago
Those are two different things. I think if you're Alpha you shouldn't need to lie, because your words, desires and actions are perfectly aligned. How do you know you're Alpha? When you do whatever the fuck you want, when you want, without fear of anything. If you have to hide from mommy then you're not that alpha are you? But, as I said, to each his own.
Anyway this sub is indeed about slaying pussy, I agree. It's amoral. Lying or being righteous doesn't affect how much pussy you'll get, so each man is free to decide what he does.
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How do you know you're Alpha? When you do whatever the fuck you want, when you want, without fear of anything. If you have to hide from mommy then you're not that alpha are you? But, as I said, to each his own
Is it Alpha to shit with the door open while entertaining houseguests? Or do you politely close the door to give them the opportunity not to see you pinch a deuce.
Same with bitches. They don't need you flaunting affairs and your calling discretion hiding from mommy isnt quite accurate in all cases
Popeman79 5y ago
I don't think it's the right analogy for this (most people would be ashamed to shit in public, I won't be ashamed to fuck multiple girls at once), but I get your point.
Going further than just cheating, I wish I had the time to explain how righteousness has made me a stronger man, because it erases the option of hiding or lying, so you're only left with owning everything that you do. There is also strength in being good.
But I agree that every man does what he wants, I have cheated in the past, I'm not the one to judge.
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I wish I had the time to explain how righteousness has made me a stronger man
And I wish you knew how well I can juggle. Balls, Rings, and Pins.
Neither have a thing to do with making bitches swoon so leave it out of TRP eh?
Popeman79 5y ago
I mean there is a direct link, since owning everything that you do is basically frame, which is what makes pussy wet.
But I see you're flexing your internet muscles so no worry, we don't have to carry on.
vicious_armbar 5y ago
Easy to say when you don’t have to hand your over your house and half of your 401K to someone who hates you. That’s if you’re lucky and don’t have to pay child support or alimony.
Voluntarily choosing to become your ex’s human atm machine because you want a little on the side is “entering a women’s frame”.
Popeman79 5y ago
I agree about divorce rape being a real problem, and being the only justification for cheating. It only applies to some specific cases though, and should be addressed as such.
In this case, we are glorifying cheating like it makes you cool. No it doesn't, it just shows you're afraid to stand your ground. Also they mentionned it was the third time he cheated, in multiple LTRs, don't think it had anything to do with fear of divorce rape.
[deleted] 5y ago
You’re endorsed? With that mentality?
Men have been cheating for centuries. Mistresses, harems, you name it, it was accepted. For you to say that there’s a moral aspect to it and that you’re worried about it is blue pill in and of itself. I don’t owe the bitch shit & she’s lucky to be with me at all.
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I like you
No homo
Popeman79 5y ago
There isn't a common view regarding morals in TRP. Everybody decides for himself. I personnaly find that righeousness is the corollary to strength, but it's just me.
Yes cheating has been around for centuries, that doesn't prove anything for or against. It's not about morals, it's about:
1) practice what you teach: if you can't uphold yourself to standards, you're not legitimate to demand those standards from any girl. If you want your girl to be honest and faithful, but you're unable to do so, don't expect her to follow your leadership. Generally speaking, being a leader doesn't dispense you from any obligation, on the contrary.
2) you shouldn't need to hide your actions, you're not weak. Unless there is a clear danger of divorce rape, there is no reason not to tell your girl that she needs to step up her game or you're gonna see someone else. It seems like it would create havoc, but it won't. Even good girls will comply and accept it, if your frame is strong enough. You shouldn't be afraid to lose her either, because there are always plenty of other girls. If she's not good enough for you, she's out. If you wanna fuck multiple girls, be upfront about it, and she'll accept it. tldr: you're a man, don't be a bitch, don't hide from mommy's wrath.
ApexmanRP 5y ago
I agree with your position. I think some people forget that TRP is a tool kit that you enhance your life with. Your code I believe sits above that and is your own.
I hold myself to similar standards. If I am in a monogamous relationship, I don't cheat. If I am spinning plates that's what I do.
I personally hold my LTR to the same standards. Do I think she could go feral? Fuck yes. I plan accordingly.
Popeman79 5y ago
Exactly! And it's not about being weak, on the contrary. When I tell girls I won't be exclusive and I don't lie, they hate/love it at the same time. It shows them I don't give a fuck and don't need to pretend to keep them around. All of them, even the high quality good girls, end up fucking me. Then if I become exclusive with one of them, they actually take notice of everything I say, because I've established that my words cannot be bent, and that I mean what I say. If I say something, they know that's the way it's gonna be. As a result they're always on their best behaviour.
Also as you say, even if I don't cheat I know what to expect of women, and I'm ready to cut them off at the first slip-up.
ApexmanRP 5y ago
Yep, I am basically following the same strategy as you.. seems to be working for my LTR, but if it doesn't no biggy, I will go back to spinning plates..
That's said the more we move forward in the LTR, the less she tests boundaries, and self regulates... so far...
Popeman79 5y ago
It's true they self-regulate with time. I like to think that it's because of me trying to be righteous. As girls, like water, take the form of their container, I believe they pick up on this too, they adapt their shape to ours. But could be just confirmation bias from my side.
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I stopped reading at the part where you think a girl is going to be honest & faithful just because you lay down a set of artificial values on her.
Popeman79 5y ago
Not just because of a set of values. Because you train them with punishment and reward, and because they know you hold the power.
You should keep reading, maybe you'll learn something.
[deleted] 5y ago
Nice try but your responses don’t suggest anything having to do with training a bitch with punishment/reward. Just that it’s somehow “wrong” and against societies norms just for violating the sacred trust of marriage. You’re worried about what someone thinks if a man “cheats.” That’s acting like a bitch to me.
You shouldn’t even have to tell a bitch that you’re going to fuck other women. Your value should be high enough from the get go that she figures it out herself.
At least I know who not to pay attention to.
Sparky159 5y ago
I actually find this to be the opposite. Pope isn't saying what's "Wrong" or "Immoral", he's saying that the man should be the leader in the relationship, and that if a man cannot hold himself to the standard in which he holds his woman, then he is unfit to be the leader of the relationship. Failure to uphold this self-standard will result in the woman swinging branches.
This is the foundation of every leadership course in existence. Relationships are no exception.
derkoff 5y ago
At this point we have to ask if you're just intentionally misunderstanding what Popeman has written. You're going full Cathy Newman.
Boltinder 5y ago
You sound more worried than he does. Your response is heavily defensive, and angry, which implies emotional insecurity.
It’s not unusual for us to be lacking in self-awareness from time to time.
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This is pretty much how I want to go out.
TheReformist94 5y ago
Good on him man. Glad he cheated,had his cake and ate his. Women will always chase tingles over their husbands and children so fuck em. Good luck to your endeavours
[deleted] 5y ago
A red-pilled man's strong will is what is supposed to separate them from women.
Hiding your infidelity is just a bitch move.
TheReformist94 5y ago
Do you know what sexual amorality is?
zue3 5y ago
Giving a crap about morality is the real bitch move. They don't deserve honestly or fidelity.
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tolerantman 5y ago
Women are so good at pretending to be nice, aren't they?
Then you show them a 60 year old with a 20 year old hottie or talk about sexdolls, all of a sudden, they show their true colors.
Wrath_of_Trump 5y ago
Fucking goldmine. Sick post my dude. It's almost like guys want to be daddy's and girls want to be daddy's little girl.
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Unrealenting 5y ago
Degenerates can be quite successful.
zaparans 5y ago
They generally are quite successful at being degenerates.
Unrealenting 5y ago
Circular reasoning. Yawn.
You're a fool if you think the sorts of greedy selfish men who own as much wealth as half the world are "good people". Degeneracy is quite sexually attractive to Women, which is why Men most successful with bedding them exhibit a degenerate Machiavellian paragon.
zaparans 5y ago
No idea what wealth has to do with this. If you want to be a daddy and bed a girl who wants a daddy you’re a degenerate seeking other degenerates. It’s like winning the special olympics.
Unrealenting 5y ago
Or you're simply winning the sexual selection game. Far be it from me to judge women for what they're sexually responsive to.
zaparans 5y ago
We should all judge those types of women and those types of men. They are degenerates.
Unrealenting 5y ago
Says who? Who died and made you God?
zaparans 5y ago
No need for sky fairies. Just logic and reason.
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Stink-Finger 5y ago
I have a friend who I hook up couple times a month. She's ninety pounds and 32 years old. I am 58 coming out a 16 year LTR.
Life is good.
Ramp_Up_Then_Dump 5y ago
I sense hypocticy here. When women do this, divorce rape a nice beta, you bash the wife. But when men fuck lives of others they are hero.
I would love to get young chick if I get divorced in future even if she is younger than kids. But these men just cheat.
_DiscoNinja_ 5y ago
Something Papa Patrice said...
"a beautiful 35 year old is not as good looking as an ugly 19 year old"
ApexmanRP 5y ago
Well I have seen some fat ugly 19 year old monsters.. you are welcome to those..
_DiscoNinja_ 5y ago
In context.... Patrice had a thing for sloppy fat bitches.
PS2Errol 5y ago
This is absolutely true. I regularly see plain girls 18-25 who are not pretty but by virtue of youth they still beat 30yr+ girls who might have been objectively prettier.
nester79 5y ago
No way, there are some ridiculously hot women in their 30's. Slim curvy women with much more mature conversations.
blacklightsleaze 5y ago
It's about genes partly. Also if they don't use ridiculous amount of drugs, cigarettes and alcohol in their teens-20's they will pretty fuckable in their 30's. And if you add some fitness bimbo healthy lifestyle the blessed one with genes will be good looking even in their 40's.
The only problem for them when they go pass 30 is that Chads won't be willing to fuck them and they will have to satisfy them with the next best man they can find.
mattizie 5y ago
they all sound somewhat the same with dick in their mouth
PS2Errol 5y ago
Who cares about the conversation? You have men for this.
suxxos 5y ago
It depends on the point of view. Of course, when you are 20 yourself, you will likely be more attracted to a 19 year old. This is the way it should be and I'd be worried about you if it wasn't. But once you turn 40 yourself, you tend to like slightly older women; childish behaviours annoy you, you want more mature communication and better sex, so yes, a beautiful 30-something is a better option than an ugly 19.
Of course, there are guys who will only ever go for teens all their life, but they treat having a younger girlfriend more as an ego boost than anything. It's no different than a groopie who sleeps with dirty smelly rockstars to feel more attractive and cool herself. You want to be seen with younger girls because it makes you feel good. The question is, why you feel the need to show off such a thing in the first place.
long-lostfriend 5y ago
Dude, you couldn't be more mistaken. I am over 45. I'd never date a post-Wall woman. That doesn't mean I am going for 19 all day long (although they are fun to fuck and it's easy to ignore the childish behavior; sometimes they even try to hide it from you so they appear more mature). But there is a good decade or so between the teenage years and the Wall.
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redpillbanana 5y ago
Interesting related message board thread:
https://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/1015876-daughter-disowns-father-for-having-younger-thai-gf/
Some children are going as far as to dictate the criteria of the women whom their fathers can date and using themselves and their kids as hostages.
Witch-Doctor 5y ago
Fuck that’s ridiculous. What an entitled little cunt
VasiliyZaitzev 5y ago
So his daughter is an ageist, racist cunt.
And can you imagine her reaction if he told her who was "acceptable" for her to date? Cue up: "You're not the boss of meeee! Skree! Skree! Skree!"
redpillbanana 5y ago
Agreed, and she's ungrateful and vain as well. Who cares about her father's happiness when it might her look bad to her peers.
She would probably proceed to date the head of a motorcycle gang to spite him. He should date a college student to do the same to her.
Entropy-7 5y ago
Weird. Five years is not that uncommon, especially after a divorce, and particularly in the context of this discussion. Kid must think GF is a hooker/golddigger.
redpillbanana 5y ago
In the discussion thread it was clear that the daughter didn't care about the social status of the GF.
GF could have been the prime minister and daughter still would have disowned him as long as GF was (1) Asian and (2) 5+ years younger.
Entropy-7 5y ago
Why, because that is what she said?
redpillbanana 5y ago
Yes, according to the OP, although OP is a third party so take with a grain of salt. Check out the thread for more details.
(Note: I'm not a fan of that particular discussion board but that one thread was interesting.)
sadomasochrist 5y ago
Argument for FAFSA first.
Morphs_ 5y ago
I guess we can make an argument that the guy had best keep his dating life for himself, because other people have trouble handling his choices, even though they are his choices.
redpillbanana 5y ago
It is sad that it's gotten to the point where a man has to hide who he is dating from his own family.
Morphs_ 5y ago
I guess, but we can't expect a 20 yo to play the mother role anyway, so basically all interactions with her are his private matter.
redpillbanana 5y ago
It's not about playing a mother role or privacy. It's about the father being forced to keep secrets because he fears his daughter's disapproval.
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My grandfather married a 39-year-old when he was 63. She was Hispanic, had two kids finishing high school. She had a decent job as an LVN and kept working till she was 55. She took great care of him till the end. His kids were up in arms because his estate went to her but none of those selfish fuckers lifted a finger to help him or made a big effort to see him.
Gozsayin 5y ago
I disagree Im not sure how the family relationship was but if my dad marriage another woman then forgot about me in his will. He's dead to me (no pun intended) but like I said it really depends on the family relationship but I would sooner let the crows get him if that happened to ne
redpillbanana 5y ago
His kids were probably just as salty about their father's relationship as the folks in OP's thread were. No surprise that their father cut them out of his will. Good of your grandfather to leave his estate to the person who cared for him the most.
Rian_Stone 5y ago
Watching children turn to entitled assholes during a parents death bothers the fuck out of me.
At least he did what I would have done. If you're leaving a legacy, leave it to those who care about you.
suxxos 5y ago
Are you guys looking for a girlfriend or a nurse, then?
Rian_Stone 5y ago
For someone who gives a shit if you live or die, and not whether you bought them a new house when you did
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I don't know what I'll be looking for when I am that age.
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Gozsayin2 5y ago
I still weirds me out how woman will date a man much older her dad or their best friend dad and then marry/have kids with them. Women are evil #nevergetmarried
handfulofnuts 5y ago
That whooshing sound you hear is the point flying over your head.
[deleted] 5y ago
wut? how does nature weird you out? modernity got you fucked up son