Good news on the "Older Men, Younger Women" front: A quarter of millennials are looking to date someone significantly older than them
"According to research from the world's largest dating app Badoo, many millennials are trying to find a partner who is significantly older than them. A sample of 10,500 people on the Badoo database revealed that 26% of 18-24 year olds would date someone over the age of 35."
26%? Actually, if one is an older man, it gets better - as you might well imagine, young women are significantly more likely to date older men than young men are to date older women.^1 Ten years? 1/3 of Millenials are ok with that: "Nearly a third of women have dated someone 10 years older, and 9% of men would date someone 20 years older than them."
"Millennials are looking to date someone who is older; as with age comes maturity and also the connotation of having your life together," Moujaes said. "Dating someone older can be seen as a fast-track route into leading a stable life, which for a lot of millennials is enticing."
Indeed. When my OLTR1 arrives at Maison Zaitzev, it is like an oasis for her. No parents, no little brother, no worries. She knows she will get to enjoy the tranquility of "Stately Zaitzev Manor", walk around naked, enjoy good food and wine, and get boned in pretty much every room in the house.
There is little scientific evidence that women who go for older men have broken attachment styles - known colloquially as "daddy issues." (Just in case that's what you were thinking.) For example, one study from 2016, published in the journal Evolutionary Behavioral Sciences, found that women in couples with small and large age gaps were similar in both attachment style and relationship satisfaction.
This is typically used to shame younger women who prefer older men, but hey, I say: "Come to DADDY!"
Ultimately, the survey does suggest many millennials are looking for a relationship with older people, and the reasons for that are completely speculative. Some people might just like the idea of dating someone with more experience - and dating sites are a really easy way to make that happen.
I prefer Day Game for this myself, but that's just a preference. The nice thing about dating apps, one imagines, for young women who prefer older men, is that they aren't going to be shamed online for their preferences.
Also, I imagine that bluepills have gotten the vapors and clutched their pearls early on - "Noooooooo! Average middle-aged guys totes can't have causal sex with 18-21 year old hot sorority girls! You can't do it, so you had better marry a tatted up bar slut quick, before all the good ones are taken! No fair! No fair! Auuuugh! It's DAYLIGHT! Where's my COFFIN!!!"^2
The TRP prescription is: Don't be average. This is why we tell you to Lift. This is why we tell you to eat clean. This is why we preach to you to Be the Best Version of Yourself that you can be. Not everyone gets to be an astronaut, but there are at least a couple things that you can become excellent at.^3 Do those, build your self-confidence, develop abundance mentality and go chat up some girls.
Why? Because Faint Heart Never Fucked Fair Lady
Further reading:
Older Men, Younger Women: How & When It Can Work
-For Older Men who prefer Younger Women, and vice versa.
Now go forth and SLAY!
^1 As I have said before, everyone cuts their own deal in life, and if an older gal can sell the "cougar fantasy" to a younger guy, then good for her. But that ain't usually how that goes.
^2 This was actually the theme of a "CMV" post over on PPD recently. The structure of the question is designed to imply a particular answer which is why it's set up as "average" guys getting "hotties". All the better to maintain their bluepill illusion. Why? Because self-improvement is difficult; sitting on your ass watching porn, eating Cheetos and jacking off is easy. If the illusion is shattered, then the bluepills will have to work at shit, too.
^3 I write and perform original music and front my own band. When my OLTR2 found that out, she said, point blank and out loud, "I'm going to have to re-evaluate how cool you are." You may not be a musician or whatever, but there is something you can do and be good at. I also play co-rec beach volleyball in the summer. It's good exercise and it puts me around young women.
ExtraMonitor 7y ago
Prime for males is 14-20. I would give everything just to be 14 again.
sartori47 7y ago
Looking at what passes for "men" amongst the young these days, it's pretty easy to see why women are going for older. But unless science finds a way to correct the well documented defects in older sperm, it's not something that will ultimately benefit society.
avocadowithsalt123 7y ago
I am 30 yo guy and most of women hitting or me are 16-19 years old. It amazes me but it is so.
MostSolidFrame 7y ago
Oh Unckie Vas! You are a blessing upon this community. Thank you for more wisdom! My twenties haven't ended yet, but it's so refreshing to anticipate sweet times ahead.
VasiliyZaitzev 7y ago
Start here, with the "Pro Tips" section for things you can do now:
Life After 30: How to Be an Old Guy
-You have one life. Here's how to enjoy it.
Ill_Will7 1 7y ago
"Indeed. When my OLTR1 arrives at Maison Zaitzev, it is like an oasis for her. No parents, no little brother, no worries. She knows she will get to enjoy the tranquility of "Stately Zaitzev Manor", walk around naked, enjoy good food and wine, and get boned in pretty much every room in the house."
Class act. what girl wouldn't want that? I need to work on getting me a Stately Zaitzev Manor myself
SeamusAwl 7y ago
The smart ones may get some decent fat girl blow jobs with their cheesy orange dicks. But I imagine they say "watch the teeth" quite a lot.
SuperCrazy07 7y ago
lol, fat girls give the best bjs.
warburgio 7y ago
31 here, plating 18-34. Younger girls are tighter, more bubbly, of lower upkeep, and far less drama-prone. Lots of shaming for both sides.
VasiliyZaitzev 7y ago
And never "too tired" for fun.
comcain 7y ago
No "The Talk" after 3 dates drama, either.
VasiliyZaitzev 7y ago
Indeed. 22 y.o. girls come without problems that 29 y.o. girls have. Plus 22 y.o. girls are 22.
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As I've said many times....
Source: I had a smokeshow 20 years younger on my arm for 4.5 years.
ApexmanRP 7y ago
I can concur.. my current girl is 15 years younger and hot.. to the point that people stop and stare when we go out.
Guys my age are jealous but mostly show admiration, younger guys usually want to talk to me, to find out my secret.
treemoustache 7y ago
That's really stretching the definition of 'millennial'. The majority of definitions put the millennial birth date range between 1981-1996.
VasiliyZaitzev 7y ago
Oh, sure, but (a) I didn't write the article, and (b) if a smokeshow 19 y.o. wants to Ride the Dragon, I'm not going to pull her card because she's GenZ (or whatever) and not a Millennial.
So there's that.
Paladin2903 7y ago
Also, keep in mind, there’s a small subset of “Millennials” that are actually “Xennialls.” They shares characteristics of Generation X and Millennials.
They still remember a time where computers, cell phones, entitlement, and “snowflake” (everyone’s a winner) mentality didn’t exist.
Therefore, they’re still kind of “old school.” They put this age group somewhere around those born from 1981-1986.
ImpressiveDig 7y ago
Born in 91 and agree with your statement.
heal_thyself 7y ago
Born in 86 and I agree with the Xennial label. I'm technically in the millennial generation, but I can't relate entirely to the younger ones.
Jfc_Manners 7y ago
Ditto. Born in 87.
The millenial mindset bugs me. Boomers are pretty bad, too. I relate pretty well to the hyper conservative subset of Gen Z and Gen X.
Entropy-7 7y ago
This is beyond the scope of this post and (although trained in economics) I have not looked at the implications, but is this new generation of women so Red Pilled that they will use their youth to leverage the status and resources of older men? I men across the board as gold diggers are so 1000 years ago.
that_italia_guy 7y ago
There's a lot more girls looking for sugar daddy's now adays. On tinder and alike
VasiliyZaitzev 7y ago
Nothing new under the sun. Hypergamy goes on forever.
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'tis true, but again and 1000 times over, it's not the only way to score them. Yeah, many younger women are looking for sugar daddy's, but some are looking to get railed out by a dude who knows how to do it and apologizes for nothing.
pbar 7y ago
I drove past a young guy the other day (midwestern city) who was wearing tight jeans with the cuffs neatly rolled up, a shirt buttoned up to the neck, and bright blue-green sneakers...that exactly matched the color of his beard. He was clutching a small paper bag and holding it up to his chest with bent wrist. I can only assume it contained a delectable flaky pastry.
I laughed my ass off, but later I had a moment of pity both for this poor soul and for the women in his life. No wonder they're "looking to date older men."
VasiliyZaitzev 7y ago
A lot of these kids have zero idea. I was visiting a satellite office a couple of years ago, it's one I'm in 5-6x a year. There was an "incident" on the floor above us (jilted bf shows up at ex-gf's work; no violence but the combatants used "hurtful words" at 10 paces). A MILF I work with said, "If that happens here, and I'm standing behind YOU because that will be the safest place in the building."
I thought about it. There's 120 peple in that office, but basically 2 guys you'd want with you in a fight....and one of those (Ex-DL from Notre Dame) was hired after that happened. So yeah, one guy, plus me, if I'm in the office that week.
pbar 7y ago
I moved out here from the east coast. Back there I would often be sitting in a roomful of people, look around and think, "If I had to charge a beach with a machine gun, I wouldn't want any of these guys with me."
Guys out here are a lot better, some of them.
But...I was in a pub a while back, met a really cute 35-yr-old (about half my age). One time in there I saw her talking to this guy her age, who I knew was working on a flirtation with her.
I pretended I didn't see her, walked right into her and along the bar, made her walk backwards with her tiny fists beating on my chest. It was an inspired move. Then I looked down and said, "Oh...you."
The guy just stood there, now 10 feet away, sipping his craft beer, didn't offer to beat my ass, didn't say a word, didn't seem to think anything unusual or maybe insulting had just happened.
Guess who dragged me home with her a few days later.
So yeah, poor things, both of them. But she was nice.
There are a lot of transplanted hillbillies out here, and they are about the same as they ever were, at least the ones who aren't meth-heads. And if it weren't for people like them I wouldn't hold out much hope.
By the way...hurtful words at ten paces...sounds like that could really fuck a person up.
ntvirtue 7y ago
Number of single mothers passed the 50% mark in the 90's.....the majority of the female population in the US has daddy issues.....Jobs that pay wages sufficient to purchase a house and live a middle class lifestyle are now a minority....So as a 46 year old dude....I get 20/30 somethings throwing pussy my way so much its not even fair.
GreatGoldSphinx 7y ago
Excellent post, as always. I'm in my low 30's. Whenever I mention to people that I prefer girls ages 19-23, they always try to criticize it and say it doesn't work. My great grandparents had a 30 year spread. That worked out pretty dang well.
hbPUA 7y ago
Seeing a 29 year old girl right now. Her long distance friend who is about 27 Found some cute 22 year old.
Whenever she brings them up, she mentions how that girl is "to young for him". With a five year age difference. I just smirk.
ECoast_Man 7y ago
Pro-tip, you really shouldn't be mentioning stuff like this. This is something you do, not talk about. Bro-talk excepted of course, but this shouldn't be discussed by you with others, especially other women.
KyfhoMyoba 7y ago
Women talk, men do, etc, etc, etc.
Paladin2903 7y ago
They only shame you because they’re jealous. The beta males will shame you, and the old hens will shame you. Age is just a number. Maturity is what matters.
VasiliyZaitzev 7y ago
This. There are really two types of "shamers" - the mad old hens and the subset of young men who can't compete.
Ricky469 7y ago
Vasily, I enjoy your posts and viewpoints.
AloofusMaximus 7y ago
Except that we, as men, are pretty much WIRED to want to fuck young women. Women and soyboys don't get it, they call is "gross" or whatever. Hell when I was in my early 20s and BP I thought the same thing. Given the choice now I'd take a 20 over a 30 pretty much hands down. Their bodies tend to be better, and I'm not with them for their great company.
VasiliyZaitzev 7y ago
^ Preach. One of the big dating sites did a data dive into the preferred partner ages for men and women as they got older. For women, it mostly tracks their age +/- a few years.
For men? It's "20".
Sometimes 21, sometimes 22, but yeah, usually, it's "20". No matter how old the guy is. That's because the only thing men cannot provide for themselves out of their environment is sex.^1 Our wetware drives us to select young, attractive women because youth implies fertility and symmetry (which is what we mean by "beauty") implies fitness on the part of the woman to make healthy babies.
Of course, this makes leftoids and feministas lose their shit, because it rips the curtain back from their bullshit construct of how the world "should" work - "Beautiful at any age! Fit at any weight!" Um, no.
^1 And the by-product of sex: children.
Stationarity 7y ago
As if older women don't have daddy issues. Please.
Mach2Machiavellian 7y ago
Wouldn’t surprise me if the number of millennial girls willing to date significantly older men is higher than the prior generation because so many millennials (including the guys) are rudderless and economically fucked. An older guy provides a level of maturity, independence, and financial stability that many younger dudes lack.
ApexmanRP 7y ago
Where I am, at the gym and when I go out, I see a lot of young guys who are pretty jacked, but thats all they have.
They also have terrible game. I am late 40's my girl is 15 years younger and guys come up to me and tell me my girl is hot and start asking my advice about life and women etc.
There is a lot of jacked Blue Pills out there..
Paladin2903 7y ago
Extremely true. Believe me, many of the younger Millennial guys (those under 30), and especially those in Generation Z, are soft as pudding. They have no backbone.
They can get away with this is high school and college, but not in the real world. Once a woman gets in the real world, she wants a man, not a boy.
Only a small fraction of them will go on to be successful in this world. It simply isn’t set up for them to succeed. It’s like swimming against the ocean current.
roskatili 7y ago
It's not really young guys growing up spineless as much as them growing up in a world where everything is slanted in favour of women, their masculinity defined as toxic from the day they were born, and their chances of going to college and having a meaningful career are way smaller than the previous generation. When you grow up in a world where your sex is seen as harmful and where everything in society is defined in terms of helping the other sex achieve success, your life is pretty much over right from the start.
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aslak123 7y ago
Are you honestly using an anecdote to support a generalization of an entire generation?
vengefully_yours 7y ago
I scribble or draw a picture, not being lazy in my case it's simply a matter of being amused by silly shit in the world. That kid sounds like he's being lazy. Draw a house on fire with stick figures running out on fire next time you go in. See pic the checker notices. I've gotten laid doing silly shit like that.
ScheisseboxenReturns 7y ago
You are a fucking moron.
I bet you still write some absurdly curly signature thinking it makes you cook.
Put a goddamned X on the line.
Your signature is shit.
Arkasio 7y ago
I second this. I was born in 1996, 22 years old so I land right at the end of the millenial spectrum and I know a few Gen Z's. These kids will be even more entitled than the millenials before them.
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If forced to choose, would you say you identify more with Late Y or Early Z on here? https://desu-usergeneratedcontent.xyz/int/image/1519/94/1519940561563.jpg
Arkasio 7y ago
Early Z is said to have a larger portion of right-leaning people. I'd put myself in that category.
meatkrieg 7y ago
Yeah? What have you done bitch nigga? I've shot at -- and I've been shot at by enemies of this Republic. Do not stereotype an entire generation, or blanket your insecurities onto other groups of men. Faggot. I know plenty of "millennial" guys (those under 30) that won't return home to their families because they made the ultimate sacrifice.
KyfhoMyoba 7y ago
Joining an organization where you can be told more of what to do is really, really, really blue pill beta.
meatkrieg 7y ago
Hunting other men is more of acquired taste. I understand if you don't have the stomach for it
Paladin2903 7y ago
Take note of the word “many,” simpleton. That doesn’t mean “all.” Take your little estrogen-driven rant and go play with your toys. You remind me of my emotional/sensitive ex-girlfriend. Thank you for proving my point. Lol.
P. S. Nice try with the G.I. Joe route. You’ve injected .001 percent of the Millennial population into your argument, and tried to prove a point with that. Beyond hilarious.
meatkrieg 7y ago
I just want to say one more thing, there are hundreds of "millennials (those under 30)" hooking and jabbing with Russian/Chechen contractors in Syria at the time you typed this fairy faggot comment. Enjoy it bud. Faggot.
meatkrieg 7y ago
The thought of skinning you alive makes me hard
Paladin2903 7y ago
Does it feel good to know that you’re a mercenary, serving a bunch of rich oligarchs, raping lands you have no business in?
Do you sleep okay knowing you, or your military friends, massacred innocent people? And you’re supposedly “awake”? Go find another forum, little estrogen-driven lady.
P.S. A gun doesn’t make you a tough guy. And you’re lucky you have a computer in front of you, “tough guy,” because I’d give that faggot ass of yours the whoopin’ your deadbeat father never gave you. You’ve got a lot to learn about basic respect. Fucking worthless loser.
VasiliyZaitzev 7y ago
Exactly zero of my girls have ever been bummed out at my problem-solving skills and that I'm good at "life". Introverts especially tend to dig older dudes.
RPmatrix 7y ago
Hey uncle V ... then I've been talking to a lot of introverted young girls lately! I'm a bit surprised at how friendly most are - I'll cold approach any cute woman who's near me for more than 10secs
I make it so easy for them and they love it
however I'm over fucking kids ... well, mostly
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VasiliyZaitzev 7y ago
No offense taken. I try to weed out the “fucked in the head” girls. Of the former plates that I know what they’re doing, one is a chef, one went on to pose in Playboy - she has much bigger tits, now, so I assume she found a sugar daddy to pay for them. She is currently in Africa on some sort of “volunteering” tourism thing that white people sometimes go on to make themselves feel “virtuous”. Another one is married and has a kid. She is, by all accounts, happy. I do not talk with her directly out of respect for her marriage, but I sometimes get (and give) regards through common friends. I am sure that she never told her hubby about the threeways she used to have with me and the girl who posed in Playboy. I’ve lost all contact with the model-turned-cokehead. Another ex-model lives in Barcelona and runs a talent agency. I hear from her abt once a year or so.
Some people come and go from our lives; others stay.
SlimJim8686 7y ago
Your comment about volunteering in Africa has me (laughing) in tears. I've seen this horseshit more times than I can count among the privileged girls I grew up around. There's poor and homeless people in the same town you live in, why don't you volunteer at the local homeless shelter, or donate to a charity that aids poor people? You can literally have an impact on the disadvantaged people around you--in your own damn neighborhood.
Oh, 'cause that won't be "such a lifechanging experience" that you can post on Social Media. Shit bothers me.
KyfhoMyoba 7y ago
If they don't do it anonymously, it's just virtue signaling.
richardhead6666 7y ago
You are correct about that!
U-94 7y ago
Yeah I was just gonna say "money".
HyperSensitiveSigma 7y ago
How do you explain guy in their late 30s screwing early twenties where money is not a factor? No meals, no gifts, no taxis, no iphones, no new shoes, no visa, no green cards. Nothing. Just younger girls who want to hang out with an older guy and pay their own way.
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RPmatrix 7y ago
Experience mainly, and probably fit and good looking
I have an Italian mate who fits this stereotype 100% good looking blue eyes black hair, gym owners/MMA body ... slays them SLAYS them, has for the last ten yrs and he's 38 now
U-94 7y ago
I wouldn't even try to understand it. I'd just go on my merry way, still thinking 'money' as a way older dudes score women. There are anomalies everywhere.
VasiliyZaitzev 7y ago
The trick is: be that anomaly.
ntvirtue 7y ago
Money/power are completely interchangeable....when you have either money or power its a major self confidence boost.....knowing that life's normal BS that gets thrown your way can be delt with no sweat.
Paladin2903 7y ago
As someone who used to be dirt poor, and now has a ton of money (not bragging at all, just is what it is), I can tell people first-hand that those two lives are VERY different.
No one can realize exactly how much, until they’ve lived it. It’s an amazing feeling to be able to just throw money at shit and watch it get done with no bullshit.
It’s definitely a confidence booster, as well. Women naturally gravitate toward this. It ‘s just a fact of life.
Look at Trump, for example. Does anyone think that fat, fetal-alcohol-syndrome-looking dude would have that kind of confidence if he wasn’t a billionaire, and was just a janitor?
VasiliyZaitzev 7y ago
Money is a force multiplier in the right hands, and useless in the wrong hands.
ntvirtue 7y ago
No arrangement there......Hell you could replace the word "money" with firearms or nuclear missiles and that would still be true.
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tempolaca 7y ago
Not mentioning most are pussified SJW children. 100 years ago a 30 year old was a men, now they are busy playing PS4 and posting selfies in Instagram of their colored beards.
Mach2Machiavellian 7y ago
You know, I used to resist the temptation to believe this about most younger men, mostly because I don’t like feeling like a “kids these days!” grump. But then I kept seeing so many examples of younger guys desperately trying to impress girls with ultra-feminist virtue signaling, and generally being weak and unassertive around the opposite sex, that I knew there was a problem. Particularly because these dudes would usually get nowhere with women using this approach.
I don’t know how many of these guys actually believe half the shit they’re saying, as opposed to only saying it on the tragically mistaken belief it’s the way to get laid. But the end result is almost always the same: they end up having absolutely nothing to show for their self-emasculation than a platonically friendly pat on the head.
It’s why women, including the young, super-progressive types, seem so refreshed when they meet a guy like me who doesn’t pander to them like a spineless supplicant and knows how to unflinchingly lead them where they want to go.
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[deleted] 7y ago
Embracing the male/female polarity is a superpower these days.
[deleted] 7y ago
Go roll around in the shitshow of 17-25 yo's posting in asktrp.
98% of the angst-ridden critical dilemmas posted there can be answered by....
Be a fucking man.
"I'm 22, been dating a girl for 2 years, she's 27 and pressuring me to get married. Should I?"
"When I jack off I lose the drive to try fuck girls. I'm trying to get a girlfriend."
"I'm soon gonna have an engineering job. I'll still be living with mommy and daddy. What do I do with all my money?"
"How can I force myself to approach in public?"
"My plate got her nips pierced. How do I respond?"
"My colleague is posturally dominating me at work.How do I stand up for myself?"
"Imma gonna try fuck my babysitter. Should I ask her about her phone as a way to get close?"
"I ignored a girl for a week and now she's more interested. Should I pursue?"
Literally the newest posts there right now.
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[deleted] 7y ago
I am a 25 year old Mechanical Engineering PHD student virgin from Pakistan, how can I bang double D blondes?
ntvirtue 7y ago
Get a sandwich bag and fill it with rock salt....find meth whores?
vengefully_yours 7y ago
Funniest shit I've read all week. The best part about meth whores it's the lack of teeth. Smooth blowjobs like you only could get from 80 year olds in the rest homes, but in a thin 20 something body.
siege342 7y ago
Who the hell uses Badoo? I uninstalled it 5 seconds after opening it.
af_007 7y ago
Millennial girls are all sluts and whores!
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Great stuff!
I'm getting close to being over the top due to lifting. I recently went to the local burrito joint and a young lady approached me....she saw me sit at the bar, grabbed her drink, walked over, sat right next to me, and we had a great time. # close....yeah, we were drinking margs so I didn't invite her home. I'm still practicing, learning, and building. But....that image of her just walking right up to me, chatting and laughing right in the middle of the bar with no shame....she didn't even blink when I said I'm 45....she's 21....handed her phone to me to text myself her name right in front of everyone....Good Fucking Lord.
Yes, she did respond to a text a few days later, still looking to hang with her again, certainly not counting on it, there are many girls around here.
Uncle V, you're totally right in not being average. I'm already stronger and faster than many men half my age, and have the good luck to genetically have good looks...and I'm still in the newb gainz for Stronglifts 5X5. This should be an awesome summer.
Oh yeah.....fucking shaming daddy issues bullshit. Truth is, any younger woman I get anywhere with seems more sure of herself than most, not less.
Time to lift.
Edit: I love me some porn and video games. Keep those young men occupied, you know? While I'm fucking the girls that they should be. Works for me.
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VasiliyZaitzev 7y ago
Yep. Lots of SoyBoys, lots of kids of divorce without a dad to show them the way.
HarryButtfarb 7y ago
Isn't a lot of this sub anti-marriage? Not that it matters a ton but interesting given your point
VasiliyZaitzev 7y ago
Getting married and having kids are really two separate issues. I think a lot of guys would be more willing to give marriage a try if they weren't getting set up to pay 40% of their gross income to an ex-wife so she could bang other guys and teach his kids to hate him.
It's a problem.
Bear in mind that absent fathers are very often not absent by choice. If the stats are to be believed, then 70% of divorces are initiated by women and that number supposedly rises to 90% if both parties are university education.
So what's the out? Well, the primary reason I never donated sperm involves who the end customer is. Would I want to condemn my genetic legacy to being raised by single career shrikes? No, that would be a betrayal, especially for sons.
EumenesOfEfa 7y ago
Thank you for yet another value loaded post!
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[deleted] 7y ago
Depends how short. Under 5'7 would be difficult without status. Assuming you lift regardless
drkinferno72 7y ago
They're used t daddy fixing everything
tempolaca 7y ago
My LTR is 10 years younger than me (I'm 38) she doesn't feel young at all. Our maturity is perfectly matched and I could even do with someone even younger. Well...who not?
casemodz 7y ago
I'm never paying a girls way.
MrTrizzles 7y ago
When it's but a trifling of a trifling to you, what does it matter? It's not like you're saving up your allowance money, right? Younger girls can almost get in a hypnotic state with older guys smart enough not to put too many barriers in her way that jolt her out of the moment. it's a daddy thing. It will feel like a little adventure to her, if you let it.
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