I get what you're trying to say but it comes off less than stellar.

Don’t approach women who are far taller than you

Go for any woman you want, even a 6'6" one. If she rejects you, move on. Now I personally prefer short women. But I acknowledge that most women are around my height or even taller. That's fine.

And most of us short guys have gotten over any issue with our heights decades ago. I stopped caring in grade school. 30+ years ago. I can't do anything about it.

As for body fat on short guys, it matters less than muscles. Being DadBod is better than being Skinny on a short guy. Being both short and skinny looks weak. It invites ridicule and being bullied/picked on. By both men and women.

Yesterday I got the # of a cute girl shorter than me who told me "I don't like big muscles on short guys. It just looks weird." Right after she told me about a guy she dated who is now a bodybuilding Marine. (No, you don't like short muscular guys because they reject you and know they can do better.)

Watch what they do, not what they say. They'll contradict themselves and even say the most inane stupid shit.

But I digress, short guys need to dress stylish much more than taller guys. Being short means you're instantly invisible to some women. You just are and always will be. That's ok. Find one you aren't invisible to. Dressing nice will help you stand out.

I've accepted that I'll always be 5'6". Short for a man, average for a woman. That's ok.

I'm 5'6 and it has never been a problem. I've never hooked up with someone significantly taller than me, but I have had women 6'+ say they wanted to jump my bones on several occasions. Being tall is just the apparent and proverbial 'big dick.' Women are gonna go for it. Then again height will not play a significant disadvantage when 'you' go for it.

Im not short but Im in a country with the 2nd tallest males in the World! That said, a general principle Ive learnt is means and ends values. That is to say, women subconsciously or evoluntionarily favour males 5 ft 11 or over (in a marraige partner it must be said). 80% of personal ads that mention height say 6 ft plus. BUT, this is not because height matters to them. Its a means value, and the ends value - the underlying thing theyre after - is security and protection.

By fighting and exposing the misandric mass media that promotes 'rape culture', we will bring women back to reality and away from their paranoia. On the individual level, the shorter man should demonstrate the ends values that women are really looking for in tall males; social influence, alphaness, conflict management, and so on. And as hard as it can be to conceal weight when youre shorter, the waist-to-hip ratio still counts as for any other man.

"You should not see being short as an inferior genetic because it has advantages in wildlife"

"Fat is beautiful because fat has an evolutionary role!" This is some major hamstering, being short IS an inferior genetic in the context you're talking about. Its why you've made a full post about how to cope with it. That said, the advice is solid.

The best I've ever seen is a friend of mine. He just dead pan says, 'I am 6"2'

He is 5"6. MAX.

I've seen him talking to girls who are being a bit shitty about height and obviously trying to make him feel bad. He goes with, "Yeah must be tough for the little guys. I'm 6"2 though. Tall guys like me have things pretty good."

Its hilarious and it works so so well for him as girls normally laugh.

Stop being so insecure about height.

The two tallest kids from my school in theory should have been better off but ended up both cucks taking care of another man's child.

"God does not give wings to snakes" is what a short brazilian guy used to tell me. He'd pull tall beautiful girls frequently. He'd sometime scam them for money. Then he'd seduce them again and do it a second time. He even invited a number of these women for dinner at his mother's place after the second time.

Snakes don't need wings to be deadly.

Couple things to add:

1) Women SUCK at gauging height. Go ask some women how tall you are and almost all of them will say your a few inches taller than what you are so feel free to lie to them in person if they ask or on any online profile. Give yourself an inch or two.

2) The right shoes/boots will add a couple inches to your height.

3) A hairstyle with some volume to it will add another inch or two.

4) Correct posture will also help you seem taller.

5) Dark slim fit jeans with darker boots (and no cuff on the pants) will provide a longer and sleek monochromatic look that will give you an illusion of being taller.

6) Don't wear longer coats that go past your waist such as traditional peacoats as they will make you look short.

Disagree strongly with you on the topic of women. I'm 5'9 in a country where the average man is 5'11. Not super short, but definitely below average.

I've found tall women to be incredibly receptive to me as long as I hold frame. They tend to react strongly to sexual aggression, something most men, including taller ones, simply do not provide.

You don't go after tall women as a status symbol by the way. You go after them because they get pretty freaky in bed. Not sure why, but all the tall women I've been with were very submissive in bed and honest about it.

So, heh, don't sell yourself short and put yourself out of the market before a woman does. You have no idea how many opportunities you are missing out on.

I'm 5' 10". I had a hard time on dating apps being so fucking honest. My selection went up 4 fold when I just wrote 6 foot.

Not one woman noticed my lie.

Said I was a race car driver and I can sail, not one woman asked about it, but a few liked it. One woman said it was really manly (though I was a bluepill fag). Oh, but I did race, and I do sail.

So, um, they won't call you out on this shit. Say you sail and race cars too! say you day trade! Say you are a bit coin distributor! A speedboat maker! A biochemist! A professional arm wrestler - they don't know shit about what men do and can't even ask basic questions. It's easier than a job interview.

Height cannot be sidelined, it is imperative to use any method you can to cross this divide. Woman are brutal about it. Warped_mindless tips below are fucking gold. Even at 5 10 I was considering shoes with a bigger heal. I could have gotten laid a little more if I was 6'4".

All the "short" guys here are average height. Try doing TRP when you're 5'5". Trust me it won't work.

In my experience shorter girls are actually way harder to fuck as they always seem to want taller men. Hell most of my girlfriends have been my height or slightly taller (1.75m here) but when I dated a 1.50m girl she told me directly and coldly "I like taller men" and it wasn't a shit test, it was a termination notice.

God this is such a low-effort post.

"Dress well, stay fit, don't break frame". This literally applies to any male and has been repeated 1000 times, if you have nothing of substance to say then why even post this shit?

Let's be honest, there is NO advantages about being short (except when you are over 60). But remember. Tall guys are rare. This is our advantage. We are here, they can only fuck so many girls, and girls know that.

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I’d like to add my dad is 5’7” and married my really hot mom (being objective she was a model in her heyday and basically same height.) she stayed with him to this day. He just was OG redpill and height was never much of a factor. Good luck out there guys.

I’m 5’7” and I’ve watched short guys fuck themselves all my life. As I reflect back on my life (46 now), and realizing from reading TRP that I’m not a pack guy but rather an Omega, I can say I was probably very fortunate not to care what anyone thought of me. I had a strong belief from the age I first discovered girls that I could date any woman I wanted. That confidence, despite having no money and money, style and no style, times of being jacked and times out of the gym, has given me a life of dating 9s and 10s. I married a “some women are better than others” ten with a personality. I can’t count the number of times I’ve been in a bar or social event with a woman and had some chad ask what is she doing with him.

The secret to life is confidence. You must believe in yourself and have strength and passion. Women respond to this. If you believe you deserve a 10 you will date 10s. If you see being short as lower value to women (height is definitely an objective turn on for women) then you will date lower value women. It’s really up to you.

Aye man if size mattered, the elephant would be the king of the jungle

what would you say if she directed a shit test towards your height?. Just wondering as to what you'd reply to it or would you ignore the comment? or just laugh it off and walk away?. thanks in advance. Just wondering cause I'm unsure as to how I'd take a insult/shit test from a girl towards my height. Boys I'd be fine

Step 1: Don't give a fuck about your height.

5'6 guy here who's strong AF. Things I've noticed for you aspiring jacked short people.

• The only men who try to "alpha" me are tall and quite large. Also, they don't really give a fuck. They don't care about you. It's in your head. Most just joke with me, but have mutual respect. Gym bros. Lighten up.

• I've had a 5'10 HB8 all over my dick (has a chunky, submissive fiance btw). She is tall and thin, this will work for us because they want to feel small. If she's tall and thick, then yeah you might want to try somewhere else (for real it's just awkward). Tall and thin is great though.

• While I gained my body cannons I practiced holding eye contact with people. I was shitty at it at first. Now I do it for fun just to make people uncomfortable. It's entertaining. Some people probably think I'm a creep, but that's why it's funny. Pussies. You'll get there boys.

If you want to seem taller with women, make sure you don't bend over when you're greeting them.

Lots of guys duck down for the hug, you should let their face hit your chest.

Long trouser legs please. The leg of the trouser should touch the heel of your shoe. Gives the appearance of a longer leg.

I am short as fuck. 5’5” Asian, 35 years old and 140 pounds but very lean and muscular (I do a lot of mountaineering and climbing). The clothes are absolutely a HUGE key. You need to wear proper fitted clothing over a well proportioned (read, muscular) and shapely frame to show your body off. Wingtips for shoes really help a lot, too. Posture and the way you walk really matter, as well. Confidence needs to show and people need to feel it. Like OP says don’t be an alpha wannabe douche, just hold eye contact, well timed smiles, confident walk, etc. and you will get more attention than you ever thought possible. I get hit on by women all the time, women 3 to 5 inches taller, older and younger, doesn’t matter. Style, fitness, maturity, masculinity, and confidence attract women, period. Own it.

This article smells insecurity

Women on average are shorter than men. The dominance effect that height has works whether the height difference is 4'7 and 5'1 or 5'8 and 6'2.

If youre gonna run statistics like this run them both ways. On the negative side taller guys are taller than a greater amount of girls than shorter guys are. If every single instance of a woman fucking a guy was predicated solely on height, this would be more impactful. Play to your strengths, maximize your weaknesses, etc.

Another thing to add, as I'm relatively short (5'9) is that loads of hot broads are really short. I'm not saying these women are the be all end all, but they are well known - Kim Kardashian is 5'2. Emily Ratajkowski is 5'6. Riley Reid is 5'3. Kylie Jenner is 5'5. The list goes on.

There are so many hot girls that sure, they want a taller dude, but with the tips here it really doesn't make that much of a difference because you're still likely to be taller. Just not as much.

He’s right.

I’m 5’6 and change. It used to break my frame when people talked shit or women talked about how they need a tall man, now it just is what it is. I haven’t cared in many years, it’s never stopped me from achieving anything I wanted to.

I have decent looks and it’s definitely evened the playing field.

If I talk to taller women, (for the most part) it won’t matter once we’re done. Ex: I just ordered in food and the delivery driver (female, taller than me) stood there like she wanted me to invite her in... tip was paid online.

Who is banging more? Chad or bucks?

"you should avoid excess body fat more because short men have a disadvantage of not being able to get away with body fat as easy as taller men".

This is true, I was on IF feeling lean and great and now I ate a oatmeal pancake with butter that had high PUFA oil in it, and the fat is right back.

Nice post BTW.

5'7 I don't care, I cant control it so why worry about it?

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Im 5’9”, and height has legit never affected me (that I know of, ofc). I actually dated a few girls who modeled that were a couple inches taller than me, and they pretty much said that the only girls who care about only height are the types to only care about wealth, weiner size, etc (I cant stand those girls anyways), or just very insecure.

I’ve seen girls talk about height positively, but not anymore than they talk about facial aesthetics, status, popularity, etc. So like anything else, just don’t be a trainwreck, take care of your body, have a chill life surrounded by good people, be funny/confident, and any “height requirement” will magically disappear.

I am 5,5 and its been a battle most of my life. I have learned over the years (2 maybe) to not give a damn about it. I have learned to work with what I got. The insecurity still creeps in through the back door when I am at the bar/club surrounded by tall guys.

The shitty part is that immediate disqualification of females taller then you. Its a numbers game and if I cannot approach girls or hope to be a with a girl taller then 5,7 that makes my odds lower. Soo many times i seen a gorgeous girl sitting down and im like wow im going to approach her and then she gets up and shes like 4 feet taller then me. UGGHH!

So if i am in a club/bar there are about half the girls right off the bat i have to disqualify. Meanwhile the 6,2 guy have all the options strictly speaking in terms of height. The girls no matter what height don't have to worry about this. 4,9 girl can be with any guy from 5 to 7, no restrictions.

Tom Cruise is only 5’7”. Women would fuck him in an instant.

short dudes

What qualifies for short? Under which height?