Going on a date, spending $50 for a measly four drinks, as well as my time and my energy, then having to carry the conversation, make the first move, etc, just to never see the girl again (or even get a text back a lot of times), feels like a legitimate form of torture. There's no respect or even human decency from these women. They flake, ghost, lie, and lead you on for attention with no care about your feelings whatsoever--it's psychopathic. I've probably spent about $150-200 on dates the past month (probably twice that much if you factor in time & energy) and none of them have lead anywhere. Pathetic, but I've truly been trying to find someone I could actually date for once in my life. The only girl who i saw more than once (three times in this example) was leaving the state within two weeks, I found out was seeing another dude (fair, but a turn off), and apparently had no intention of going past kissing/teasing.
This is why there are so many womanizer's... Because women create them. After this past month and all these failed dates I don't think I'm going to take another girl out on a legit date for a while--I'm just going to invite them over to my place for drinks. Minimal time, money, and energy wasted on my part. And if they're not up for that? NEXT. Thank your fellow women for my new, asshole, attitude. However, if I reeeaaally want to meet someone I'll meet her out, but I'm going to tell her we have to go dutch. I'm a good guy, not a Mr. Nice Guy, but obviously even being a good, decent human being type of guy when it comes to women is useless and pointless. Any sign of decency seems to get you walked all over by women.
/rant
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Pro tip, Invite her over to watch a dvd ;)
Its free and a pretty clear sign if she agrees.
wheresMYsteakAt 6y ago
It's fun but I need to be in the mood for it/very horny. 50% of my erection is my reaction to myself "being the man" when I'm out with a girl. The sex is a small part of it. I kinda like the hunt more than the kill usually. I love the moment you know you are going to be fucking this chick regardless if you tell her you've shit your pants and then pussy teasing her for an hour or two until you bang her in the back seat of your car parked by one of those loading ramps at an industrial complex. I know it's just the ego and those things have no real value but goddamned narcissistic supply is so tasty.
ViperG 6y ago
You're doing it wrong. Never go to dinner. Go out for drinks. 2 beers, first round on you. When you buy the round you say I got this round, you get next? the max you should be spending... $6 bucks.
Or if you live in a college town when they do dollar beer night... $2 bucks
wheresMYsteakAt 6y ago
6$?! Someone get this guy an award for BB of the year. I won't even take a woman's phone call if she doesn't pay the air time, and supply the phone.
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GlennBeckAmerica 6y ago
You're doing too much. Treat these girls accordingly. If your game is tight enough, an un requested bj in the arby's parking lot is nbd. You. Are. THE MEAL TICKET. And yes she is letting Chad stick it in her ass after she picked him up from work. He didn't wear a condom nor did he give her gas money .
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So dumb. Aorry but spending money on people you dont know is just wrong.
[deleted] 6y ago
How much porn do you watch? You’re not used to working for whatever rewards you get, are you? PLUS this is why you spin plates, so you don’t have to do this as much. Smfh.
BillSander 6y ago
Dude... just stop paying. #negotiateddesire
strikethrough123 6y ago
Going on dates is a waste of time, and it's a blue-pill creation and plays right into the feminine narrative. A date is for the woman to qualify a potential provider, not to qualify alpha dick.
Cest7 6y ago
Hahaha this title (&Post) is fucking gold!
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NEVER pay for a woman. Hard rule. Not even for coffee.
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InternationalProfile 6y ago
Yeah, a much better idea is to say "I'll get the first round." You shouldn't be out more than $20. If it costs more than $20 for two drinks, why the fuck are you going to such a fancy place for a first date? And if you think $20 is too much for a date, go find a way to make more money.
From there, if it goes well she can get the second round, and if it goes poorly you can bow out after the first. And it shows that you're normal (he bought me a drink on our first date) without being a beta bucks (he'll pay for everything).
no92 6y ago
It depends on how things are done when buying the food, drink, whatever. For the newcomers to trp who don't read the sidebar and don't know basic social interaction, they are better off not buying the girl stuff on the date. Less likely to fuck up.
Any feminist girl I went on a date with pretty much equated buying the girl stuff on dates to prostitution so that's one perspective.
Other girls I've talked to (not dated!! Hint!!) say when the guy buys a drink it shows he really cares and is interested. Thing is, you can do that without buying, and if she's "fuck yes" level interested then she will not even care anymore or jump to buy it for you.
Girls who were most interested in me usually jumped to buy it for me instead of allowing half and half.
We can analyze all day but the #1 choice in trp is going to be the one last likely to fuck up a socially inept kid's date.
7mile_ 6y ago
If you're the one that asked her out than pay for the coffee..
Brutal13 6y ago
Just don't. Invite her to your basement and then offer YOUR coffee.
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why do you live in a basement? You should focus on getting your own place before gaming or giving advice.
Brutal13 6y ago
By a basement I mean — place where do you sleep etc. Homebase.
:D
Suave_Terry 6y ago
The aspie is strong with this one...
[deleted] 6y ago
Nope. NEVER means NEVER. A woman will actually pay for *your* coffee happily if she sees you as an alpha.
Frosty_League 6y ago
Lmao some of you guys are so fake it’s hilarious. Asking chicks to coffee dates? and not even paying? You most be in high school. The bottom line is this: you want to date/fuck hot girls? Get ready to spend a little bit of money. No woman who is a hard 7/10 or 8/10+ would take ANY man seriously if the best he has to offer on a first date is coffee that she has to pay for herself lol. I mean come on
CVSeason 6y ago
Yeah that guy is an ass clown. Tons of pretenders on this sub, from what I've seen lurking.
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You show your ignorance. Not only do I NEVER buy anything for a girl I haven’t fucked thrice, my girlfriends have ALWAYS spent more on me. Happily.
Think about this: plenty of 8s are dating thugs, drug dealers, and drunks. These men provide nothing but hardship yet they fuck the girl you covet.
Deny that thugs, drug dealers, drunks and abusers fuck. That they do shows that what I say happens regularly by men who give girls tingles.
Frosty_League 6y ago
Doesn’t sound like you’re dating 8s at all though bro. The ones I know and have dated wouldn’t even entertain a guy like you. And what’s with everyone spouting off that hot women only love drug dealers and thugs? Lol where are these relationships happening? Economically depressed areas is my best bet. You need to head to the city, my friend. I don’t deny that drug dealers and the like can pull some hot chicks sometimes because I’ve seen it(in college, not the real world and not nearly to the extent that reddit believes). Those women, though hot, are almost universally complete trash anyway and not the type I would ever pursue
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Yeah, I hate seeing those wastes of flesh fucking hot girls a lot. Where I went to college, there were a few local thugs who would bang some of the hot coeds. It was frustrating to watch and at the time I didn't understand why these beautiful, talented women would get involved with some tatted up loser who was probably going to die by age 30.
If you think this doesn't happen, then you need to head to the city, my friend.
Then I took the red pill. I understand why this happens now. TRP uses the same principles these scumbags used (generating feelz), but has fleshed them out and streamlined them so that they can be harnessed while being a respected and contributing member of society. The reason you should believe that we do these things is because you've seen it work with those drug dealers you mentioned. They had "abundance mentality," "generated feelz" (both good and bad), used "soft nexting" (basically ghosting for periods), and other stuff we use.
I am currently dating an 8, and only because she is phenomenal in many other ways outside of the sheets. Normally I'd be fucking anything above a 6. As for not paying for shit, for valentines day (which I don't do) she took me to another city for a weekend vacation and sight seeing. I didn't pay a penny except to buy a few drinks while there.
Edit: to be clear, I'm not a deadbeat. I'm a lawyer, but I use the same principles. The girls you know dream about meeting a hot professional like me. I am the one who makes women my age ask where all the good ones went. I fuck girls in their 20s (before I decided to shack up for the time being).
J412h 6y ago
Take them out to coffee, $10 for the two of you and then you can judge if you want to see her again.
I would tell them something cocky like; let’s get together for a coffee and see if we can stand each other
fromthecrypt8 6y ago
Yeah, and don’t pay for her. If she’s old enough to fuck, she’s old enough to pay for her own coffee. If that makes her act even 1 % entitled and pissy, immediately ghost.
neo10neo 6y ago
If you go on a 'conventional date' you have to be prepared to buy a round of drinks (if it goes well). Keep it to one or two rounds of drinks MAX on a first meet. I've had girls even offer to pay for the second round. Based on the interaction, it's then up to you to use your own judgement (i.e. is she cool, polite, do you have chemistry, will you see her again, etc.). If you get the sense things are going south or she's gonna ghost/is an attention whore-- go dutch on the bill.
Hjalmbere 6y ago
Coffee dates suck. Staring at each other over a table sucks. Find a park and go for a walk. Cheap first date that is also moderate exercise. And it’s waaaay easier to escalate kino on a park bench sitting next to a woman than it is sitting opposite of her at Starbucks.
VSelf47 6y ago
Logistics. Pick a table were you can be beside her. Also you can move the chair besides her while she is watching to be even more direct.
Starbucks? Come on, find a better/non basic coffe place.
Nutman-maddog 6y ago
That’s a good one, probably gonna use it on tinder now
J412h 6y ago
It’s worked more times than not!
My target group may be different than yours (30-50, I’m 46) at this time of their lives, they’re just as eager to cut the shit
alpha-zach 6y ago
And from the ashes, a new asshole is born.
Red pill 1. Feminists 0.
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[deleted] 6y ago
stop being a good guy, try being a guy that bangs girls not take them out on dinner dates.
askmrcia 6y ago
STORY TIME
Yesterday I went out to brunch with two female acquaintances whom I known for years. Both post wall.
Topic of online dating came up and one of the girls mentioned how she was doing a bumble challenge. The Bumble challenge was to see how many consecutive dates each day in a row between her and her friend could land. That mean at least once a day they had to land a date from bumble.
The best part is she also dropped how she never asks the guys out and she won't ever make the first move and she won't ever offer to pay.
I responded that she's basically wasting guy's time and using them for money.
Her response....CLASSIC and I'm going to quote with slight paraphrasing:
"No I'm not using guys or wasting their time. I tell them straight up I'm not interested in dating. I'm completely honest. I just want to meet people. I won't go out with them if they never asked. I tell them I'm just opened to meeting people. But I don't want to date or get into a relationship. Its even in my BIO that I'm not interesting in dating (this was a complete lie)"
Got all that? Makes your brain hurt from the gaslighting? Well it only gets better.
I responded so you joined a dating app. And the purpose of a dating app is to go on a date, but you're saying you joined a dating app to meet people? And by only wanting to meet people you really mean you want to meet JUST GUYS and take them out on dates? Because you just said that you want to go on a DATE at least once a day. A DATE is not the same as meeting people.
And you don't ever offer to pay. Meaning these guys basically give you a free meal hoping that they can see you again sometime or something more. But, you have no intention on seeing any of these guys again because you have a challenge going on. So that means you are using guys for money and wasting their time."
I also explained to her how it was wrong that she said she won't go out with a guy until he invites her out. She said in her words that she will continue talking to the guy but won't ever ask them out for drinks and she went on to explain how some guys talked to her for weeks and one was a month (idiots) before finally meeting up. So with all that said that is clearly leading guys on.
Ready for the big cha-bang on how she tried to justify her behavior?
Her friend jumped in and said "askMRcia you're being an asshole. This girl was in two bad relationships and this is her way to get over her past relationship troubles."
Then the girl I was talking to jumped in and said "Yea I was in two long term relationships where I always made the first move and did all the work. Now its all these guy's turns. I was so down and hurt from my last relationship that this bumble challenge allows me to meet people and get over my ex."
I just let it go at that point because I didn't want to argue over this stuff. But she was basically saying just because she was in two failed relationships that every guy she meets from now on should suffer for it. And I knew her last ex well and it was her fault for choosing to stay with the person after he cheated on her multiple times. Yet she kept going back. No one to blame but herself, but ofcourse she refused to take accountability because the ex was soooo manipulative.
But yea, both these women are 34, both divorced, and both were complaining that they really wanted kids yet this is how they act (still fun to hang with though).
So gentleman be aware of this stuff. Oh and by the way if I showed you pics of these women I'm sure none of you would be interested unless you had beer goggles with a nice dry spell, but that doesn't stop them from having a line of dates set up more then all of us combined on this sub (not joking, they can get a date everyday for a month straight that should tell you something).
Caspero444 6y ago
A woman I met for coffee from an app told me halfway through "this isn't even a date". This same woman's last relationship was a fwb that she flew from USA to Paris to have sex with once a month.
no92 6y ago
I know plenty of girls who are like this. I actually find it funny and a good lesson for the guys but my girlfriend is the one who actually thinks it's wrong to lead them on.
Yea, they're being lead on. However they should learn their lesson at some point. Did they specify when asking the girl out, "this is a date"? Did they even attempt to escalate? Did they even try to see if the girl had any attraction to them? If they did any of these things and followed a few trp points they would weed out the girl in 5 minutes or less.
But time and tons again I see guys putting in weeks of effort. I see nothing wrong, both sides are just playing the game. Not the girls fault the guy is playing tic tac toe with himself while she's doing 3d chess.
askmrcia 6y ago
Well you may have missed my point. These girls are saying how honest they always are about their intentions but they are not. They say they are not stringing guys along but they are. They say they are interested or not interested in dating, but its the complete opposite.
That's what I'm getting at. Yes the men should know when a girl isn't interested or playing them, but that's not the point I was making.
Women use these dating sites for validation mostly, but lie and say they don't. How many profiles have you seen where a woman says she is there for friends?
Who the hell goes on a DATING app looking for friends? See the issue? And yea we know its BS, but again my point is women continue to lie about what they want. Then they are 30+ asking themselves where are all the good men at which means they completely avoid any accountability on their life choices.
KookyDonut 6y ago
Stop spending so much money on dates then. Just go for fucking ice cream or milkshake or something. And make her pay for it.
cutting_moulton 6y ago
I do agree you shouldnt be shelling out much moolah on dates--nothing good could come of that--but trying to make the chick pay for the date and expecting good to come of that? Strange advice, at best.
It's worth spending $5-$10 on her, if only just to give the illusion you're employed and not a cheapskate. Just have a plan in place where you can cut your losses at ONE drink or whatever if she's not gonna immediately fulfill whatever it is you're looking for.
jackandjill22 6y ago
I've had girls pay for me. This dudes doing something wrong.
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jackandjill22 6y ago
She's got the ice cream on her breath you bought for her while she's sucking some other dudes dick. That said, don't be stupid & actually be attractive. If you're arrangements are convoluted & don't make sense you're being played.
Attractive isn't all looks. Partially, have attitude & a spine enough so you're not getting your ass kicked by women's manipulative games.
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7mile_ 6y ago
Ice cream date? He's not 12..
SuaveUchiha 6y ago
You’re crazy. Idc how old you are, who doesn’t get excited for ice cream?!
daverambo30 6y ago
"Girls like ice cream" -Tony Montana, Scarface
https://youtu.be/vXBvldxzjPw
daymi 6y ago
... I did that at 35 with a 29 year old. Got laid (the ice cream one was the first date (she paid both), then the fake beach in the city with my beer, then a walk with her beer - that's it. What's with those expensive dates? shakes head Spending money is going to hinder you, you know).
Docbear64 6y ago
Sure but considering women are children If you are a decent flirt and reasonably attractive there's no reason you can't turn a small investment in yogurtland into something hot later. What you do matters way less than the vibes and energy you create while you do it. There are dudes who wine and dine women and can't get laid much and there are dudes who can turn a mcdonalds "date" into a fuckbuddy situation .
Temptationn 6y ago
I’ve turned many ice cream dates into fucks, this guy is a tool, lol. 1. Get ice cream, 2. invite her back to car to eat it, 3. grab her and makeout, escalate
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tempolaca 6y ago
You have to setup dates as you will ALWAYS get something out of them. I never go to the same place, I try to set up dates in places I don't know, so I get to know them, and gain experience. Money is just not a problem at my age, I think you are much younger and money might be a problem. If money is a problem you already start in disadvantage, and many girls will bail out just for that. Doesn't matter, use the dates as an adventure, the objective is the place, not the girl.
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mrcs84usn 6y ago
One thing I've done is that we'd go to the grocery store deli and split a sub sandwich. Get drinks/chips if you want, and then go to a park or something else that's pretty much free. Ice cream, coffee, Jamba Juice are all cheap as well.
"Never spend more than $40 on a date. $0 is optimal." - Tom Leykis
I do have to agree with you though. It does suck that you as a man have to take the active role in dating, while she basically just sits back and judges you the whole time.
Socialinception 6y ago
Are you seriously bitching about "having to make the first move"? What a hard life, you have to lean into kiss a girl and invite her to your place - must be traumatizing.
Women mostly flake because they didn't like you but they didn't want a confrontation by rejecting you for their number.
Your whole perception seems to be filtered through your own bitterness - just get better game and these problems will go away. Getting butthurt just makes you lose power.
7mile_ 6y ago
Technically he's not wrong. We all face flakey women who don't have the decency to simply respond. How hard is it to respond to a message and simply tell us "hey here's the situation".
It's immature behavior
Socialinception 6y ago
Sure, it's annoying that women are flakey, but getting bitter about that doesn't help. Instead of focusing on what's out side of your control, focus on getting your game better so that women are less likely to flake you.
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Quick coffee is my fav. Or a quick drink (make sure you have other plans ) this way if it doesn’t click you can get out quick.
jewishsupremacist88 6y ago
p4p can be like dating. its just more direct but from a time/energy perspective its worth it.
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madrealworld 6y ago
sounds like youre still stuck in the anger phase
zaparans 6y ago
They don’t owe you anything. If you aren’t getting anywhere you should ask yourself if it’s all of them or if it’s you.
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Iwannachokekatie 6y ago
Yes if your smv is high enough.
[deleted] 6y ago
You need to go Dutch. After my ex got to enjoy the fruits of my labor without me getting anything in return I learned that Dutch is the way to go. You will quickly find out who is with you for money.
superyute 6y ago
how do you usually propose going Dutch?
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“Will you be paying together or separate?”
Separate.
superyute 6y ago
what about times when you're not prompted, and the server assumes one check?
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You’d do the same thing you would if the server gave you a bill for a different table. You’d refuse the check and ask for it to be split. They can’t make you pay for your date and she can’t make you pay for her. If women want to be independent you need to give them the opportunity.
Felixsilly 6y ago
Easy. Push the check towards the girl. I had one say she had never done that before, and didn't know how to fill out the check. Not sure if she was serious, but I taught her like a 5 year old.
Caspero444 6y ago
Dating over empowered, over entitled women who are not even very interesting or attractive most of the time definitely leads to burn out. I don't know where it's going because technology and many other factors has created this quagmire.
Tre_Walker 6y ago
I don't date. I will meet a woman somewhere but F dates. You need better game than that, we are all conditioned to believe "dates" are the way in.
Title says prostitution is worth an investment and then you never mentioned it again just talked about cheaper dates.
I am headed to Mexico this week for 10 days. Will I pick up some chicas? Damn right...for the same price as you paid for dates I will bang 2-3 hotties and then they will leave. That's what you pay em for.... to leave so I can get back to having my time to myself without
having a woman around distracting me from enjoying the trip.
I have round trip tickets (less than $100), Airbnb's , Ubers and all in all its very inexpensive to go to a place people consider paradise, its just excellence. And I am poor well below poverty line. The trip is NOT about women they are nothing more than ....say a meal I might eat. I don't want that meal following me around. I want to eat and move on.
Dates are for suckers and the desperate.
majaka1234 6y ago
Lol coz you're gonna meet a latina that doesn't want you to take her on a date and isn't a hooker.
Siiiii como noooo chamo.
You're gonna bomb hard.
If you're in México take her for ice cream. The cheap shit is great. Crepes y wafles or whatever the chain brand is there now. Costs nothing but it's all fancy.
7mile_ 6y ago
I like your approach. I don't like going on dates either mostly because of the time investment.
How do you approach these women that you are meeting?
majaka1234 6y ago
Backpage of a magazine he found in a truck stop.
He's not picking up any latina better than a 2/10 without a date or paying $200 a pop.
CVSeason 6y ago
Yeah the posturing in this thread is hilarious ????
wheresMYsteakAt 6y ago
I make tinder girls venmo me before even meeting up and I have no profile picture.
mishasam89 6y ago
you should listen to Leykis 101 on youtube
Dmva100 6y ago
If you're going on dates you're doing it wrong. Screen effectively for DTF chicks for direct invites.
Dates only if she's your sugar momma, else she can gtfo.
Midway through your post you already figured this out. Don't go out unless she brings it up AND pays, otherwise you're overinvesting.
no92 6y ago
Starting out, which this guy is obviously doing, dates are a good way to warm up to trp ideas. They should not cost more than $0 and your time though if you want to budget.
If he can't get through dates correctly it's a question mark if he can be the guy who just invites them over.
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atticusfinch1973 6y ago
So many guys think dinner/drinks is standard for a first date. Stop being boring and suggest something different. There are literally hundreds of options that are free and/or way better ways of vetting a new girl than drinks or dinner.
My go to is something active that I enjoy. That way I know if they enjoy being active too and how they look in athletic clothes right away.
askmrcia 6y ago
This depends on what girl you're taking out. If its a random tinder girl then I'm not trying to be her adventure buddy or her entertainment. Now if this is a girl from my social circle or something, then yea its better to do something then take them to a bar.
But I think its stupid to expect a guy to go out his way and plan an adventure with a chick from dating site that has hundreds of other guys lined up after you.
velinxs 6y ago
You meet a girl in a public place so that she can assess if you’re not a psychopath murder rapist. Make her buy the coffee and keep it cheap. You’re overthinking this.
Da_llluminati 6y ago
no, it's so that I can look for red flags in her behaviour.
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let's compromise and say it's both
merkucjo 6y ago
Why not a walk ? Or go somewhere out and do drugs ? Lots of ideas if you want to go cheap ;)
cappadocianhawk 6y ago
Don't pay for anything unless it's a reward for them doing something, even then don't spend too much. You need to train your bitch that she only gets treats when she does something really nice for you.
cutting_moulton 6y ago
Hookers are entirely too expensive, dude. If you just wanna bang some random chick super quick, then just get an eHarmony account and message every pair of swingin’ tits in your city. Message like 3 hot chicks and 3 skanks per day. The hotties prob won't ever reply because most of them are only on there to get their fucken egos stroked by the fact that so many guys will message them with date requests, but you will certainly bag a date with a high percentage of the skanks, They're on there for reasons of desperation, and they aren't receiving nearly as much attention as the hot ones, so they'll be eager to meet you.
Then just set up first dates where you meet for coffee or a drink at a bar. Meanwhile, think of 3 or 4 of movies you have at home or can netflix--ones that are obscure enough to where not everyone on the planet has already seen them… Then you meet up. While y'all are drinking your ONE drink, ask her what her favorite movies are, then start naming yours. When you get to one she hasn't heard of, say, ‘Whaaa!? OMG! YOU'VE NEVER SEEN XYZ MOVIE!? Alright, I have it at my place--you have to see this movie immediately--it's mandatory.’ Take her to your place, pop in the movie, press play, wait 5 minutes, fuck her. It worked 4/4 times for me.
On the off chance you get a bite from a hottie who ain't on the site just to get her ego stroked, just do the same because if she's hot, and yet needs to resort to online dating, there's something seriously wrong with her, so she'll have low self-worth and be easy to take advantage of.
Now I'm not current on the internet dating scene, but when i was employing this tactic a decade ago, i chose eharmony because it was one that was clearly the long-term relationship oriented. My reasoning was that the chicks on eharmony will have their guards down because they assume the dudes on the site are also looking for something serious... even as you proceed to fuck them almost immediately, it's easy for them to justify letting it happen because she's so desperate and deluded into thinking you want more than a 'hit it and quit it' thing.
Along those same lines, another thing that i think worked in favor of my scheme was the fact that eharomony was like twice the cost of other sites like match.com. That probably made it even easier for thes chicks to delude themselves into trusting because because, "why would he pay twice as much for the long-term dating-oriented site if all he was after was a hole to fuck?" The funny thing is, at least at that time, you could get eharmony to give you half off price for a few months if you emailed them explaining you couldnt afford their prices. So I basically paid match.com prices for the "classier" eharmony experience. Of course, I never mentioned that to the skanks...
I think having a plan was key to my scheme being succussful. I was also worried about money, which is why the plan was to act fast--ONE drink. One drink gives you enough time to try the movie trick--and if she don't bite immediately, just pretend you have a phone call emergency and you gotta bounce (set an alarm on your phone ahead of time). In any event, you're only ever out one drink.
If you see yourself as being a nice person and you're worried that ditching her after the fake phone call will make you look like an asshole, you can offer her a ten for an Uber or whatever. But I wouldn't; you'll never see her again so who cares...
newName543456 6y ago
Yeah, traditional dating is BS. How do you think "Netflix and chill" thing got popular?
ApexmanRP 6y ago
Dude, you sound like you are at the anger phase.. you havent fully accepted the Red Pill or done the work to be successful with women. I am guessing that you are young.. early 20's?
Take a look at BlackDragonBlog for a template for success with low spend and minimal investment in time.
By the way, I believe that quick sex is still the way to an LTR, because you need to be alpha to her. If she doesn't see you as Alpha from the start the relationship is going to crash and burn quickly.
zaparans 6y ago
Lol a budget guide to smashing. That’s so sad.
ApexmanRP 6y ago
I was giving the OP another take on how he can spend less on dates, if you want to spend lots of cash to smash a bit of pussy, go ahead.
ndfw76 6y ago
I read this post and I wonder if it's all an age thing. I'm 41 10 different women I've sealed the deal with in like 10 months time. I have women that come over just to sleep with me. I pay for some dates, but women I've been out with pay for stuff as well. Just yesterday had a woman come over bring beer, all the food, we cooked out, and had fun...leave it at that. I just think I'm not that special, so I wonder is it an age thing. The woman I've dated have been 32 to 45, and they are not land whales. One was a runner, did 50k's and in great shape tall, huge tits, and great ass. I don't treat them like shit, and I don't treat them like Mr. Nice guy, I just DGAF.
Ibanezguitarrocks 6y ago
Some of them play the long game. Paying for cheap things in the short term to appear like they aren't after your resources.
Howard Stern famously said he'd never marry again after his first marriage. His current wife pretended she was OK with it, knowing he'd eventually cave and he did.
Women aren't egalitarian when it comes to money. Some are more strategic with how they shake you down but eventually it WILL happen (if you allow it).
xidub 6y ago
Have you considered asking yourself the question why they never get back to you?
Oliverott 6y ago
I am a loner and I really don't care about having a life partner, actually after a while I really don't want them around anymore, telling me what to to do with my life, how to redecorate my house...
For guys like me I am convinced "renting" is way better than "buying" especially because women are "depreciating assets", they are like cars not houses.
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Oliverott 6y ago
For a split second I thought it was about the Chinese...
You know like the saying: The Chinese eat everything with four legs except tables—and everything that flies except airplanes.
GEAR_IN_THE_REAR 6y ago
Same dude.
This is what happened with my last LTR, I never had any time alone and she wanted to try to control me with bs here and bs there.
I live in a 4 room apartment (1100+ sq ft) with minimal stuff all alone. I don't even have stuff on my walls other than my tv.
No joke every girl I have had over always tell me some shit I gotta buy to put on the walls, it's pretty funny.