LEARN TO FIGHT, PUSSY
Man the fuck up. You need to know how to fight. I’m sick of watching a bunch of faggots give each other advice on how to handle male-to-male conflicts like a bunch of soy boys. Make no mistake: you need to know how to fight. Period.
The advice everyone wants to give around here when faced with a conflict is “smirk and walk away.” Well guess what, faggot, that’s not going to carry the day every time. Smirk all you want, sometimes it’s just gonna look like you tucked your dick and shuffled off.
DISCLAIMER for the spergs: No I am not saying you should fight, or puff yourself up against every little slight. Yeah, you’ll look insecure if you do that. What I am saying though, is that throwing fists needs to be an option in your pocket. You can’t really walk away with your head held high if you don’t also know how to fight.
Remember this:
Walking away when you can do serious damage but choose not to shows restraint.
Walking away when you can’t do anything but kick rocks is cowardly self-preservation.
With that in mind, lets continue...
Violence Created Manners
Ever wonder why men are so polite to each other, even when we hate the guy? If you think about it, you already know: because being on the wrong end of a beat down could put you in the hospital. Even tough ol’ motherfuckers like myself know that against a smaller but determined opponent I could get fucked up real good even if I win, and there’s always a chance he’ll land a good blindside and drop me. No thanks! I’ll mind my own business and you mind yours.
Women don’t have violence. They use gossip and relational aggression to damage a girl’s social status. They gossip, make snide comments, and do other shit men wouldn’t stand for. Women are rude as shit to each other, but fear of a good knuckle sandwich keeps men civilized.
Do your part for the sake of civilization! Learn to throw a good punch.
Being Able to Handle Shit is Alpha
There ain’t nothing that gives you confidence in an uncertain situation than knowing you can dissuade another man from attacking you. This lends itself to natural confidence. Is it possible to be a sissy alpha? I don’t know. Google it, tell me what you find.
Being able to handle yourself in a confrontation that might turn violent is alpha and sexy as fuck to girls. We talk a lot about evolutionary impulses around here. Why some guys think that this doesn’t apply to the capacity for violence is beyond me.
Women like the man who can “protect” them. I.E. fight. You ain’t protecting shit with your “smirk and walk away” advice.
Enough! Time to Toughen Up!
Alright, so now what? You need to learn to fight, what are the options? Do I have to get in a fight?
Good news is you don’t! And honestly, I hope you never do. But you do need to know how to throw a punch and be mentally prepared to battle if you must. Once you know how to throw a punch, and feel like you can land a few solid ones to the face if you need to, your resolve to stand up for yourself and not back down will show.
So now what?
Well, since your dad was a beta who never taught you to throw a punch here’s what you can do:
- Join a combat gym
I routinely advocate for boxing gyms over MMA gyms. The argument is really just gloss though. MMA gyms will teach you to throw (and take) a punch just like a boxing gym will. I won’t get into why I love boxing more because it’s really unimportant. Two guys who know how to fight arguing about the best way to fight isn’t helpful to the transforming-alphas who just need to get in there and do it! Go do some Karate, Krav Maga, or put on your best Russian accent and go learn Sambo (actually one of my favorites. Yes, I know it's practically MMA. Still prefer boxing).
2) Get a friend and practice
This is an underrated way to learn to fight. It builds male camaraderie, and it gives you confidence knowing that you each got each other’s backs. I did plenty of this sort of thing when I was in high school, and it helped. In fact fighting used to be the norm for boys. We only stopped because… you know… its toxic masculinity. Right?
3) Shadow box
Another great way to learn. Practice for just five minutes a day. In a week you’ll start to feel your shoulders “roll” differently. More easily. Swinging starts to feel comfortable. Did I mention men are built to fight?
I’ll go ahead and admit to doing this shirtless in front of a mirror. Sounds spergy, but it ain’t. Try it. You can see your form pretty well and you will naturally be able to sense whether your punches are good ones and you’ll figure out if you have a good stance. If the stance you take looks dangerous, then it’s probably a good one. We are built to sense danger, make yourself look dangerous.
Bonus: evolution of the hand
Ever wonder why men have a longer ring finger? Go ahead, make a fist. Squares it up pretty nicely, huh? The longer your ring finger compared to your index finger, the more testosterone you were exposed to in the womb. Look it up. Now learn to curl those bad boys into impromptu clubs of death and get to practicing.
PropositionInfinity 5y ago
This post is so dumb, so much incorrect information. I agree with knowing how to protect yourself but not with the intent to fight. Women fight too, not just gossip, that's such a huge generalisation to make about 50% of the population. Testosterone exposure in the womb is not important, making testosterone during puberty is important. Most of your info is anecdotal at best
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Don't carry a weapon unless you're able and willing to use it. Same applies to your fists. Treat your fists like you would a gun. Use it to escape of subdue an attacker.
PropositionInfinity 5y ago
That I do totally agree with. One other thing I'd like to suggest is not using words like faggot, especially to put people down. It's not your word so you shouldn't use it
swampbastard69 5y ago
started Muay Thai this year, my first few times sparring I was scared shitless of getting hit and kept flinching. Only a few months in and im perfectly comfortable getting hit and starting to get the best of other guys occassionally. I used to think 'im not the TYPE of guy that fights'...the thing is, nobody is...you just show up day after day and then you become the type of guy that knows how to fight.
BurnoutRS 5y ago
Theres a really fucking stupid mentality festering within the minds of the gener population. It reads "your thoughts are a reflection of your true nature"
This is the mentality where, if you even think we might be letting in too many people from a certain country, you're racist. If you even suggest learning self defense, youre a violent maniac.
In many ways this is what peace does. People have it so good they lose touch with nature and eventually humanity. We start viewing things in extremes. Even violence towards a fly is a disturbance of peace
Solitary_Solidarity 5y ago
Id take lessons if i could afford it man, shits expensive.
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On top of this nothing makes you feel more alive, and all your worries so backgrounded, than being decently punched in the face.
Hyper_Sonik 5y ago
This was a really stupid post.
magx01 5y ago
This is like a cosplay through the written word.
Jalakee 5y ago
Couple thoughts about fighting:
EuropeanAmerican420 5y ago
Who the fuck you calling a pussy bro
LfK95 5y ago
My ringfinger is shorter than my index finger.. rip
FeralRed 5y ago
Fag.
Fighting is the lowest form of self-preservation.
Knife? You're fucked. Gun? You're fucked. His buddies decide to curbstomp you unconscious ass?You're fucked.
Violence Created Manners - AKA an armed society is a polite society. You know everybody can kill you, so there is an expectation of mutual respect. Why should this be any different in day to day life anywhere? Do you know if your buddies conceal carry? You shouldn't.
Throwing fists is NEVeR an option.
You determine if your assailant is a true threat. If not, walk away. If so, kill him where he stands. That is the binary decision tree.
Throwing fists? Stupid. Life doesn't work like that. WTF you trying to prove?
Clubs of death.
Jesus.
If you're dumb enough to get in my face to the point I decide you're a legitimate threat, I put 10 rounds of 45 into your chest as I'm dialling 911 and reporting a robbery. If not, I laugh and walk away. With my hand on my gun.
Everything else is posturing bullshit.
You knowing BJJ in a streetfight is absolutely neutralized by my Glock.
Nobody but absolute idiots get into streetfights. Darwin.
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FeralRed 5y ago
Then you hire u/neurot0x1c below to see how many headless Barbie dolls he can force into your prepubescent niece's asshole on her walk home from school.
Force multipliers. If you think it ends with fists of fury then you're living in fantasyland. Don't fuck with people because you don't know how much they can fuck you back.
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Acid bottle is good. You start with that in the eyes, then pull out the flammable spray, and lighter. Lighter on full mode. Make sure with the spray you only spray towards the end of the flame otherwise it won’t work. When your hands get the hang of it, its a beautiful show.
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[deleted] 5y ago
White girls are the easiest. They are the ones who are most likely to fall for RP strategy. All you need is learn a few half brained techniques and incredibly dumb misogynistic strategies from this sub, and white girls become a piece of cake.
Now I’d like to see RP strategy work on a mature Slav female who hasn’t been exposed to the degrading, female gender role that Yankees create through Hollywood and their music videos, especially the disgraceful and contradictory African American Hip Hop community. We want equal ethnic rights, but we shit on hos. Sorry African American community, you can’t have your cake and eat it. Bring on the heroic anti-racism propaganda bitch niggas.
[deleted] 5y ago
Your fear is tasty. Frantic man-boys like you sustain me. Thank you for this present.
FeralRed 5y ago
Fear? It's a Binary decision... do I kill you or not? That's not fear, it's a distillation down into considering what's actually a threat versus something that's poking your fragile little ego vagina.
Deaf ears, I know. But here's a thought experiment.... Get yourself a gun.(please don't.)
Who gets to live or die? Do you kill anyone who disrespects the Cobra Kai?
You have absolute power of life and death. How do you wield that? How important are your "clubs of death" now? Your sense of tucking your dick factor into life or death decisions?
Insecure fag that lives on Fantasy Island with Segal and Van Damme.
Bet you don't even look at huge explosions in the background.
[deleted] 5y ago
Lmao. The neck beard tough guy routine is comedy gold!
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[deleted] 5y ago
He didn’t give an argument and he’s being retarded. “Muh weapons” so? Does that mean you shouldn’t know how to fight? It’s a Nonargument the existence of weapons means nothing.
Even then, weapons and fists serve different functions.
Finally, would you buy a gun without learning how to use it? Why have a fist if it’s no good?
Pretty much every guy here talking about weapons is making the same logical mistake.
But it’s funny seeing them posture. If you came up rough and tumble you’ll have known plenty of dudes who say the same thing. They are making excuses for not knowing how to fight.
EuropeanAmerican420 5y ago
I think the point they are trying to make is that in modern society generally getting in a fight is a lose lose situation 90% of the time.
Get killed by a gun toter, stabbed by a bum, get killed by a cop or win the fight and catch a felony.
When faced with a hostile situation your goal should not be to rassle it should be GTFO
Plus you called me a pussy in OP so I didnt even read the content.
All that said I got no problem with learning to fight but I wont go walking arou d with a puffed out chest because I knoww how to fight.
[deleted] 5y ago
Then they’re wrong.
Getting in a fight is 100% a lose lose. Fighting is harm reduction. If you have to fight something went horribly wrong, and you should thank your lucky stars you read my post.
And if you ever have to exit. ALWAYS pop them once so they have something to think about before chasing. Now you should be doubly happy you read this.
EuropeanAmerican420 5y ago
Hah thanks. I guess will go back and read op
mrHappyPotatoe 5y ago
First time I entered to Wing Chun I hit my teacther like a child. 2 weeks in and when I hit him again he took a step back. So yeah. Knowing how to fight feels very nice.
Hmmkey 5y ago
lol Wing Chun has literally 0 to do with fighting,
mrHappyPotatoe 5y ago
Its focused to defend yourself in street conditions. You dont know what you are talking about. Kickboxing and mma is too sporty and cant be used really in street. Ppl will knock u out less than 9 seconds.
Wingchun has basic punches to the throat, eyes and to the balls. Also to the knees and elbow punches to the ear where u need only 1 punch to knock aoneone down. Wing chun doesnt use kicks cause its unrealistic. Kicks are very easy to counter.
Hmmkey 5y ago
You are hilarious you shoud do standup Wing chun is total shit, i would prefer ballet to become a better fighter if my options were ballet and Win Chung and i am not even joking.
mrHappyPotatoe 5y ago
Good luck with ballet then.
Hmmkey 5y ago
That was hypothetical, i train a real sport :) Good luck with playing like you guys are fighters, no real sparring and living the rest of your life saying things like I would have done this and that. Good luck when your reality gets checked and your weird sticky hands nonsense don't work against some drunk idiot that will knock you out.
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I_WRESTLE_BEARS 5y ago
Learning martial arts is a good way to deter fights as well. When I was in grade school I used to get bullied, but not once did anyone actually want to fight me. You can interpret this however you like, but if a small kid with glasses and curly red hair can somehow be intimidating then what the fuck excuse does a full grown man have?
yotheman 5y ago
In this modern world is easy to find someone with a gun or a knife, your "learn to fight" could finish in a couple of seconds pretty bad... So the next post will be: "be an alpha man and learn to shot a gun or learn to use a knife"? This post is a total non sense.
mamaknulare 5y ago
dont fight. It's not worth it. That being said martial arts gives a different confidence than lifting I think. Being buff + several years of martial arts training = BIG confidence boost
Gl0weN 5y ago
Yo what the hell my ring finger isn't even longer than the index one. It's actually shorter what the fuck is the meaning of this you trying tell me I haven't been exposed to enough testosterone bitch?
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Gl0weN 5y ago
Nvm it's good.
I kept looking at it with my hand raised up instead of just putting it on a flat surface
[deleted] 5y ago
Not in the womb. Who knows about puberty.
unclecrumble 5y ago
Knowing how to fight and being a human weapon gives you a certain swagger and I think women sense it
halfback910 5y ago
Why use my monkey-fists when I can use my newfangled technological boomstick to shoot the other monkeys dead?
Entropy-7 5y ago
Because the guys that know this shit keep you close.
Men with swords need daggers. Men with rifles need pistols, and daggers. You just never know when you are too close.
halfback910 5y ago
We can go through all sorts of scenarios. But if physical combat were effective against guns we would be giving our soldiers and cops martial arts training instead of guns.
Entropy-7 5y ago
Not instead of but in addition to. Yes, when heroin addict LeBron runs at a cop with a meat cleaver, then you shoot his ass.
In World War Whatever, obviously firearms are superior to HTH or melee.
In civilian life it is a bit more complicated. You don't always have time and space to deploy a firearm.
ChadsLeftNut 5y ago
We give them both, because both are valuable.
halfback910 5y ago
I'll just stick with guns and mace. Don't have the goddamn time to master a martial art.
ChadsLeftNut 5y ago
A mace lmao? You dont need to master a martial art. Just learn the basic punches, a knee and some kicks, some takedowns an takedown defense, learn how to hit them hard and fast and learn how to utilize them in sparring. Then learn and internalize the principle of violence of action, which all close combat situation ultimately boil down to
halfback910 5y ago
No, like mace. Capsacin. Pepper spray. It's useful for places they won't let you take a gun.
hiddenpleasures123 5y ago
Have a story to share about my uncle:
He got into a real bad beef with someone at his work. They fought in the parking lot after work, it was going to be a grab-ass, streetfight, pissing contest. Well, my uncle went to take the other guy down and ended up literally breaking this other guy's neck when he landed on top of him. The guy is a paraplegic now and my uncle went to prison for several years for attempted murder and charges for something like grievous bodily harm.
He is a felon with a violent criminal history. He meant no serious harm and was only trying to "man up" and be a "real man". His life is ruined.
Always walk away when someone is wanting to engage in a physical fight. You never know when you might end up seriously hurting someone or killing them. It'll ruin your life.
If things come to blows, you can always run and evade.
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hiddenpleasures123 5y ago
Was going to prison and wasting several years of his life an interesting experience? Was being treated like shit by guards interesting? How about being raped in prison?
Lol he has no honour. He can't get hired anywhere pretty much or a decent education. Everyone looks down on him.
Inmates still fucked with him. Cops still fuck with him. Employer's treat him like dirt. He's a felon.
hiddenpleasures123 5y ago
On the other hand, if things get serious where you have to defend yourself or your family, you're in serious trouble if you're unarmed. Most attackers will have a weapon that will neutralize you or fuck you up instantly.
If it's some prick that wants to cause a problem and its going to 100% happen... Just have some strong grade pepper spray and fuck him up with it. Even if it doesn't take the fight out of him, he isn't going to be fighting at 100%. I guarantee you'll end a fight covering some loudmouths face.
Watchingcluturefade 5y ago
So true, if for nothing other than just to have confidence in yourself.
Once you have trained yourself and no longer fear physical confrontation from anyone, you have SUCH a far easier time of making your points clear and going after the things you want.
The confidence to not allow others to back you down with any intimidation technique is paramount in my opinion.
Austish 5y ago
I've been in fights before, mostly at parties where both of us were drunk as a skunk. I kind of wish I could still fight, but i was diagnosed with a heart condition (which has only gotten worse since) at the ripe young age of 18. I literally cannot fight unless the person is just jabbing at my head the whole time. This shit really fucked me up in my last year of high school, I couldn't even make a tackle without feeling like my heart was about to explode out of my chest. Shit, itll even trigger if I stand up quickly when sitting down. Makes me act out my life like an old man, living way too cautiously. If I take one punch to the chest, I could give two fucks less about the fight as I'm more worried about the damn-near heart attack happening inside me, and trying my hardest not to pass out. Thanks for the advice, but for people like me, we dont really have an option.
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I am sorry to hear of that. Knowing how to fight is one thing, but I hope that it doesn’t get in the way of your general fitness. Men solve, adapt, or endure. I hope endure is not your only option. Good luck, brother.
Austish 5y ago
Thankfully I think I have found something to help with it which is ablation. Hopefully it works cuz this lifestyle I have now is shit
massivewang 5y ago
Learn self defense, the most important skills as listed by a retired navy seal (whom I agree with)
https://youtu.be/SGpDVCkhtD4
Boxing, Thai kickboxing, jiu jitsu are probably the top three options you should consider.
ddiogenesofsinope 5y ago
That is the golden ratio of self defence.
I'd replace Boxing with Muey Thai, just because a boxer does not know what the fuck to do if kicked, but great selection there.
handsofchalk29 5y ago
Whats your opinion on judo? I have a judo club near me and they also offer a free bjj class each week with the membership. I don't have any viable boxing gym options near me. Should i go for it? Is knowing how to grapple throw and submit make me well equiped enough to take on the majority of people?
veske 5y ago
A blackbelt judo expert with good standing in tournaments is scary. Have seen a situation escalate before my eyes in a matter of seconds to something very bloody. Probably the initiator of the situation did not expect anything like that also.
No good came out of it tough. He crawled away and called in a dozen of meth heads for help.
andreas-mgtow 5y ago
Any martial art is an asset. Judo is great at hand to hand, throws and on the ground fights. Most fights will end up going to the ground.
Having said that, best advice I ever received: The best technique is avoidance.
Source: 4yrs MMA/BJJ, great respect for Muay Thai and Judo practitioners.
handsofchalk29 5y ago
I actually am a buddhist and I try my best to avoid confrontation. But if pushed into a corner I want to be able to end it with as little harm to the person as possible. Everyone makes mistakes and nobody deserves severe injuries or death for them. I appreciate the information. Do you think judo and BJJ will help end a fight with minimal injuries?
andreas-mgtow 5y ago
Yes, particularly BJJ, if you focus on submissions, you can end fights relatively quickly and with minimal striking or damage to either party. Most of the guys you might end up fighting will not be trained and won't pose a real risk, most can be easily controlled with arm bars, chokes, even a simple Americana hold.
handsofchalk29 5y ago
Thank you very much. I appreciate you taking the time to respond. I will join the judo club on the 10th of next month when they accept new members.
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handsofchalk29 5y ago
I apologize If I'm asking too much but I am looking for a good bodyweight routine so I can get in better condition. Do you have any recommendations for a bodyweight routine? Thank you.
massivewang 5y ago
I’m not expert but in my humble opinion I think grappling has tremendous value - wrestling, judo, BJJ, etc. Really almost all wrestling throws and several wrestling takedowns seem to have evolved or come from judo.
I think a trained grappler wins 9 times of ten, especially when the adversary knows nothing. People are not prepared to stuff takedowns.
dongpal 5y ago
I dont understand how people mention wrestling. do you guys talk about the scripted acting?
massivewang 5y ago
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scholastic_wrestling
The type you do in highschool, college, the Olympics. Not WWE.
dongpal 5y ago
And this you want to use in a street fight?
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An amazing wrestler is like a wet blanket you can't do shit to him.
dongpal 5y ago
what about striking ? what you gonna do when the opponent is kinda doing muay thai
massivewang 5y ago
https://www.instagram.com/p/BkrFzwDFIwI/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=34grrozegi1o
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massivewang 5y ago
Would I choose wrestling solely for self defense? No.
Would a wrestler win a street fight if he found himself in that situation? Nine times out of ten yes. Person with training beats person who isn't trained, especially when it comes to grappling. Take the fight to the ground and your opponent is in big trouble.
handsofchalk29 5y ago
Thank you for the response. I think I'm going to give it a go. I appreciate you taking the time.
ananyo007 5y ago
I have the threat of being attacked on a regular basis (medschooler in a third world; the patient party is known to physically assault doctors on duty if the patient dies or something regardless of who's fault it was- mother Nature or the doctor in charge).
I recommend learning a variation of boxing, muay thai, and some submissions and knock-downs. Doesn't matter what. Just know to cover your and maybe two other people's asses long enough till help arrives. Why? It builds frame. It builds confidence. It adds another layer to your armour. Knowing you can hurt people, will give you the smugness to walk away from a fight.
Field Report January, I was in charge of the ICU while the senior doc was away fucking around in the canteen. It was just me and the nurses. It was around 5ish in the morning, I guess. 3 larger dudes walked into the ICU armed with an iron pipe.
The guard on duty didn't do shit. They were already threatening the nurses. This patient got referred to another hospital and these guys who were her friends weren't notified about it. I didn't know what they're talking about (I'm only second year- I'm allowed to perform basic tests and provide first aids, let the nurses or the doc in duty know if something goes south).
I'm 5'7". These dudes had at least 3 inches on me, apart from being much older, above thirties, I guess.
I am the kind of a jerk who looks for a fight. As they were about to push me around, I ran away 10 feet to the exit. They probably thought I was running away, so they turned back to harass the nurses.
I had this metallic board they hang on patient beds with their files. I threw it at the guy holding the pipe. I ran upto the other dude and kicked him on the side of his knee, inwards to outwards. I guess I broke something because he collapsed right there screaming Bloody Mary.
It happened really quick. They couldn't anticipate.
The last dude froze. He actually began to scold me and playing defense. Security came and escorted them out. I got scolded by the senior doc. The nurses thanked me.
It wasn't a fight since I caught them off guard. But I probably would have gotten beaten or worse, if I did not think on my feet or took action.
Point is, you only get to walk away from a fight, if you and the other guy knows you'll win. And there might be times when you're actually threatened physically. By all means, play cool. But when shit hits the fan, you'll get killed like the guy in Jurassic Park who went to take a steamy shit when the T.Rex was lurking in the jungle.
Andgelyo 5y ago
Props. Im the type of guy who’s charismatic, friendly, and personable especially when treating my patients, but I also make it a point not to take any bullshit from anybody. As men, we need to know how to fight. It’s how our ancestors survived and procreated.
it_takes_the_redpill 5y ago
Yo, this may have some good points.
But I don't know.
Because I'm not reading it.
Because the title is all caps and a direct violation of the posting guidelines which say don't command people. Then the first two sentences are just straight up orders.
maxnarvaes 5y ago
Lots of americans here that thinks they can go in life carrying a weapon and "deciding every second who lives or dies". Thats not the norm in the entire world. Everyone should be able to defend himself by whatever means necessary. To rule out learning to fight just because you can carry a gun its the dumbest thing i've ever read in this sub.
eaazzy_13 5y ago
I haven’t seen anyone suggest that
Edit: never mind I scrolled down a bit more
RedPilledRoaster 5y ago
Amused mastery. Don’t be an insecure faggot who wastes his time on dumbasses who think we live in barbaric times, where you can just fight your way to what you want. That’s not the way it works anymore. If you let other people get to you easily you have a long way to go.
You’re a high value man. Why waste your time on low value half-retards who can’t control their emotions?
Fighting isn’t worth it. Knowing how to is great for self-confidence and safety, but unless you’re put into a position where you have to defend yourself, the potential consequences far outweigh the reward every time. I’m talking legal consequences, not just physical.
I know I sound like a concerned mother but you gotta know what battles to fight.
brotein_synthesis 5y ago
thats ok mom, knitting and vegan men activism it is, i promise
Ivetakenthepill 5y ago
Most of what OP wrote is valid and a worthy read for this reason alone. You should know how to fight so that you can defend yourself in an unpredictable situation. Especially when you're out effortlessly gaming girls while her billy drink buyer is standing off in the corner silently blowing his gasket ready to 'meet you outside'.
You could roll through life never having to physically defend yourself, but for the chance that it might happen, know how to fight.
PB0034 5y ago
Choose your battles, only if you know how to fight. Otherwise you’re not really left with a choice.
r_u_a_badfish2 5y ago
I think you missed the point.
vengefully_yours 5y ago
I've been in so many fights I can't remember them all. I started exactly none of them. I have had PTSD most of my life because of that shit. Yes, diagnosed with it, not just claiming it like so many feminists. my life was a living hell for almost 23 years, including my first war. Walking away will usually embolden some aggressive twat and the bullshit will persist. In your little soy filled bubble, you can walk away and be smug. Out here in the real world, and yes I live in the states, it's not always effective to do that, in many situations you will get fucked up, robbed, or fucked with over and over.
If you don't know how to defend yourself, you're an easy target. I had to make myself into a hardened target to get people to stop fucking with me, and even now dunk college kids will do it to act tough. Rolling over because you can't defend yourself, handing over your wallet, being a weak fuck simp, and running away because you're defenseless it's not taking the moral high road. If you can easily and utterly destroy someone, but don't when they start shit, that is the moral high ground.
Yes you pick the battles wisely, the weak fucks are the ones trying to show how tough they are all the time and throwing threats around, trying to prove how bad they are, but sometimes violent force is the only thing that will work. Most of you have never had a real fight, growing up in the middle class, bubble wrapped and protected from all the danger in the real world. Many of you act tough or think because you're tall that a bad ass, you're not.
I've noticed a trend among guys under 35, you've not had many consequences of talking shit and getting your ass kicked, so you think you got this. You think that school yard run to the teacher will work in adult life too, you might find the wrong guy at some point and discover what I'm talking about.
Yes I avoid fights, I will not back down from one and will finish one anyone starts with me, but only with enough force to stop them. I can seriously hurt people, due to training, experience, and high muscle mass, so I have to be aware of doing damage that ends up in medical bills. The guys who can beat the fuck out of me are not the ones who will start shit. Once you reach a certain level of proficiency, you know what you can do and feel no need to prove it to anyone, because you proved it to yourself. So I'm not going to tell you kids to fight for no reason, but that you should know how to fight effectively, be competent and capable, and be able to compete, so you can do it when you need to.
That probably won't make sense to a soy boy who was been taught over and over to run to the teacher. Most of you are deluding yourselves into thinking you're Bruce Lee or some shit. You watch mma and think you're as tough as they are. You're not, but you should be. Teddy said speak softly and carry a big stick. You speak softly and cower.
RedPilledRoaster 5y ago
“Knowing how to fight is great for self-confidence and safety...” That was part of my original comment.
If someone is physically attacking you, you have every right to defend yourself. If someone is fucking robbing you, of course you can kick their ass. That’s still self-defense.
By the way, you don’t have to fight or walk away to defuse a situation.
Kicking someone’s ass for any reason other than self-defense shows nothing but weakness. You can’t deal with some retard talking shit? Really? If anything shows mental fragility it’s that.
If you’re high value, people will respect you enough to know a shit-talker means nothing to you. Want to see an example? Look up how Arnold Schwarzenegger responds when eggs are thrown at him.
You shouldn’t be trying to kick everyone’s ass who talks shit to you. You shouldn’t be trying to win everyone’s respect if you ‘don’t need it.’ You have everything to lose, and nothing to gain, especially in the modern world.
In my mind, knowing how to fight and still not reacting to shit-talkers is respectable as fuck. So again, learn how to fight, but don’t use it to inflate your fragile ego.
By the way, you create your “real world.” If you’re hanging around people who talk a ton of shit and threaten you all the time, that’s on you. You either build your own reality, or you’re living under someone else’s.
Andgelyo 5y ago
If you grew up in an urban city, lived in poverty. and had friends who were in gangs, most likely you already know how to fight.
TRPKiddo 5y ago
Agreed. Fighting is almost never worth it, but it’s crucial to have it as a skill because you never know when you’ll have to defend yourself or a loved one. It’ll make you more confident, too.
WalterEArmstrong 5y ago
Believe it or not, there's a great deal of satisfaction that comes from being able to kick the live'n crap out of some guy twice your size who is an a.h. and won't take no for an answer.
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Fighting may not be worth it, but knowing how to fight is.
[deleted] 5y ago
This is the way I see it. Granted, I do not know how to fight, but this reasoning has led me to shape up in order to take martial arts classes.
Merwebb 5y ago
It gives you another sense of situations
monsieurhire2 5y ago
Very true. If you want peace, you have to prepare for war.
[deleted] 5y ago
I'd rather be a warrior in a garden, than a gardener in a war.
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soulcatcher357 5y ago
Recognize the true threat. Bruce Lee.
monsieurhire2 5y ago
Ha, funny you should mention him; was just forum white-knighting him yesterday.
Highmachas 5y ago
It's better to be a warrior in a garden than to be a gardener in a war
argusboy 5y ago
Except food is precious in war, so that gardeners getting paid.
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WalterEArmstrong 5y ago
"Fighting isn’t worth it." If you're just 5' 7" you better damned well know how to defend yourself. If you're 6' 7" it's not that much of a problem.
Andgelyo 5y ago
All that shit wouldn’t matter if the 5’7 guy was armed.
WalterEArmstrong 5y ago
Whenever anybody asks me how tall I am, I just tell'm that under normal circumstances I'm 5' 7" and about 180LBs. However, when I stick my 45 ACP in my belt I'm 6' 12" and 375!! (Juz kidd'n here folks, jus kidd'n!)
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Agreed. Size is not that big of a factor as most think, it's often the _reach_ that larger people have that is the crucial factor.
Even so, strength is a bigger factor than fucking games would make you think it is, but experience and skill is a thousand times more valuable. Only when skill is roughly equal will strength be a deciding factor.
RedPilledRoaster 5y ago
Point out where I said you shouldn’t learn to defend yourself.
Looking at some of these replies it seems like you guys should spend less time on your screens, it’s harming your vision.
WalterEArmstrong 5y ago
Point out where I said you said that!
JYandeau 5y ago
True. So many people (short & average people like myself) love to believe that size doesn’t mean fuck all in a fight, but in reality, odds are Floyd fucking Mayweather or Conor McGregor would get stomped on by Shaquille O’Neal lmao. Yes knowing how to fight is crucial, but picking your battles wisely instead of trying to be a fake alpha male is more crucial.
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eaazzy_13 5y ago
Here’s Shaq boxing de la Hoya, who I believe is in the same weight class as Floyd. My money is on The Diesel alllll day
https://youtu.be/BWoHZXupeVA
cpk8080 5y ago
I think the OP needs to dial down the steriod cycles or something because you shouldn't learn how to fight expecting to fight, sort of like owning a gun, you should avoid confrontations and hope not to use it. When I was in college in AZ I got into trouble when defending a couple friends and got my ass put in tent city (thank god that place is shut down now, humiliating and torture camp). Let me re-iterate, I was DEFENDING my friends, we didn't go out looking for trouble, it came to us, and I still got thrown in jail for "irreparable damage" to this guys eye. Nope, fighting is not worth it, work to avoid situations if at all possible. Learn some Jiu Jitsu or another martial art just for peace of mind and to learn how to harness that aggression.
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It’s also a bad analogy because I would never own a gun without knowing how to use it.
cpk8080 5y ago
Yah I think you both missed the point, When did I ever say you should own a gun without knowing how to use it? and you really think I don't know you can kill people at a distance with a gun? I was only talking about avoiding confrontations at all costs, like with owning a gun. It is similar, you should avoid fights (or gun fights) at all costs, even if people are calling you a pussy or egging you on, just simply walk away and be the bigger person. I'm not saying there aren't good parts of your post.... like... "Walking away when you can do serious damage but choose not to shows restraint."... Yes absolutely, know how to fight in case the other person swings first or you have to defend yourself, but even if you have a chance to get out of that, do it, The prosecution tried to target my training at a mma gym as proof that I had more training and should have shown more restraint in the fight where i was defending my friends. So you still need to try to backpeddle the other direction when being swung on. ( this all got dismissed because video did show they initiated it, but without the video according to the bouncers i would have been f*cked)
Did I mention men are built to fight?
This is true to an extent, but if you look at our evolutionary background as homo-sapiens we are more built to run than fight. This being proved when we were separating ourselves from neanderthals and other homo-sapiens who retreated to the jungles with all the big game and chose the violence route. they eventually died off and the homo-sapiens who chose to run, scare and exhaust their big game flourished (also learning to harvest and eating nuts and seeds).
WalterEArmstrong 5y ago
".....you shouldn't learn how to fight expecting to fight, sort of like owning a gun.....". NO! Knowing how to fight and owning a gun are NOT similar! A gun is a huge magnitude more lethal than martial arts skills. You can kill people at a distance with a gun. Bad analogy cpk.
cpk8080 5y ago
Yah I think you both missed the point, When did I ever say you should own a gun without knowing how to use it? and you really think I don't know you can kill people at a distance with a gun? I was only talking about avoiding confrontations at all costs, like with owning a gun. It is similar, you should avoid fights (or gun fights) at all costs, even if people are calling you a pussy or egging you on, just simply walk away and be the bigger person. I'm not saying there aren't good parts of your post.... like... "Walking away when you can do serious damage but choose not to shows restraint."... Yes absolutely, know how to fight in case the other person swings first or you have to defend yourself, but even if you have a chance to get out of that, do it, The prosecution tried to target my training at a mma gym as proof that I had more training and should have shown more restraint in the fight where i was defending my friends. So you still need to try to backpeddle the other direction when being swung on. ( this all got dismissed because video did show they initiated it, but without the video according to the bouncers i would have been f*cked)
Did I mention men are built to fight?
This is true to an extent, but if you look at our evolutionary background as homo-sapiens we are more built to run than fight. This being proved when we were separating ourselves from neanderthals and other homo-sapiens who retreated to the jungles with all the big game and chose the violence route. they eventually died off and the homo-sapiens who chose to run, scare and exhaust their big game flourished (also learning to harvest and eating nuts and seeds).
WalterEArmstrong 5y ago
Good post, but I suggest you do a little research about Neandertals and Homo sapiens!! Neither side was the kind you'd want to meet in a dark alley at 3:00 AM!
Entropy-7 5y ago
As a personal policy, I basically never upvote or downvote. I could explain that policy but the matter here is that the OP has me conflicted because there is silver and dirt here (not gold and shit), and I wouldn't know which way to vote even if I I did.
Kept in mind that "fight" and whatever you think you know have completely different meanings depending on context and life experience.
Street brawlers, ring fighters, cops, and the military types approach things in different ways.
Up to being a teenager, I was skinny and got picked on and beat up several times , held my own in a minority where it was 1-on-1 and got a suicide pass when my classmates convinced a much bigger guy to simply not kill me when I wouldn't stand down from his challenge.
Number of fights I have been in during my adult life: zero
At 18 I joined the combat engineers, was trained by the airborne, and packed on 20 pounds of muscle; and studied western fencing, various karate forms, tae kwon do, a few ju jitsu styles (not BJJ as that was before its time. . . and really it is for fags ;-), some taijitsu and what otherwise could only be described as "commando training". My eyes are not as good as they used to be but I think I could still shoot a silver dollar out of the bullseye at 100m.
My point is not to give you a life diary or to convince you that I am Jason Bourne but rather to go a bit Karate Kid on your ass and tell you that the main reason to learn how to fight is so you don't have to fight.
Except for psycho guys like young me, nobody wants to enter a fight they will lose. The more important perspective is that nobody wants to fight when the cost of winning is too high.
I guess the other point is that after the army I went to law school and while I was a barrister we settled things mostly by negotiation rather than legal warfare.
And when I went up against the Hell's Angels in a custody dispute, the weird thing is that I had a reasonable working relationship with a psychopath because he knew that when dealing with most men, and especially when the legal system is watching, violence is not the solution.
I do have a severe disrespect for pussies who say " violence solves nothing". Violence solves a lot but it can't be you go-to measure.
But always have a "high guard", where you can (if I recall Code Name : My God in at least one movie).
UFO_mechanic_AMA 5y ago
Yeah I agree with all your points about strength as deterrence and how it shapes your relations with others, better than OP. So I’m not knocking the value of anyone’s time they put into boxing or mma. But if a situation spirals into real violence, like someone wants to kill you for your wallet, real shit hits the fan, all of that is worth so much less than conceal carry and firearm training.
Entropy-7 5y ago
I am a fucking Canadian living in China. Last I checked the number of CCPs in Ontario were literally one in a million. China doesn't have mass gun murders, they have mass knife murders.
Training is key: there is a general rule that a weapon used in self defense will get taken away and used on you. That includes firearms, especially low calibers like .25, .32 and .380 ACP which may or may not be fashionable as ladies guns.
I suppose the other thing is that a concealed carried firearm is useless until you unconceal it, chamber it, remove the safety, and then aim. Even removing the middle two steps if you are safety-cooku, distance is everything.
I think the mobsters in the 20's and 30's had a saying: "Run from a knife, but rush a gun."
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You nailed the point perfectly.
I have avoided many fights merely because the other guy lost confidence when I stood my ground. And I only stood my ground effectively because I know how to land a good one.
Example
I was out with my girl when some street kid came up with an exacto knife (a razor blade on a handle) out in his hand, presumably to rob us.
My girl was in high heels, but I looked at the knife, looked him square in the eyes, and unflinchingly asked him “yes?” Then he put it in his pocket and asked if he could bum a cigarette.
Honestly, I have no idea why this is “dirt.”
It all seems pretty simple and obvious to me.
magx01 5y ago
If this is true that is actually badass. Well handled.
NormalAndy 5y ago
I'll never forget my first time in the boxing ring. I must have covered up for a full 2 minutes while the trainer casually picked me off with jabs and crosses. After what seemed to be a lifetime, I finally stuck one on him and he just laughed it off:
"Oh you DO hit back then!"
Fucker... :-)
magx01 5y ago
Translated: Hey guys I box!
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Everyone's a beginner at some point (apologies for the cringe).
midnight_metro 5y ago
Honestly I used to think about how easy it would be to fight all the time, until I actually got in one. It's wayyy different than you could imagine, and balling up is such a natural reaction to being hit in the face.
Takes a lot of discipline to roll with the punches and hit back.
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I have better ways of dissuading an attack then fighting. It always works. Keep in mind this requires a bit of heartlessness. (I come from a conservative culture so I get away with this shit by coercion of female relatives to tell law enforcement that X or Y tried to rape her. Works well to get away with shit)
During confrontation, I will either win or fall to the ground. I find out where you live, and I will irreparably damage a loved one. If I don’t, my brother will. If my brother gets stopped, someone I know will.
Simple. I have nothing to lose, I have no links that require me to be subservient. I am cruel. You want to risk it? You will cause extreme damage to your father, mother, sister, wife, or kid. I will roast one of your loved ones using a lighter and flammable spray and watch them run in flames. Let’s fight. My brother one time used a car and with speed flung one of 4 guys hard. The other three were stupefied and shitting themselves. Got away by getting sis to claim one of the guys sexually harassed her.
Edit: Forgot to say, I always have a restraint weapon, like a taser or a telescope baton. Gave taser to bro in case he needs it. Never weapons which carry charges. These are at home. We are auto-defense. Our community knows that when one of us is hurt, without word, the other responds with extreme violence to an unknowing person the alpha-male dipshit loves. Yeah, the one who beat me in a fight.
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CuckFuckMcPuck 5y ago
Jordan Peterson raises good points, just like you! Thanks for sharing with us!
[deleted] 5y ago
On Saturday night I was at a club.
Some asshole randomly squared up with me, I stood my ground. He told me, 'I'm gonna fucking shoot you' and reached around his back..
As soon as he reached, I knocked his bitchass out cold.
I'm 31 years old. Never had to do any shit like that before. But I learned how to fight in high school, thank God.
...dude had no gun. says he was reaching for his phone.
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You facing any repercussions?
bowhunter6 5y ago
Great post, couldn't agree more. Can't believe all the whiny pussies out there objecting to sound advice. Lift, learn how to fight, hope you never need to use it. Just the confidence of knowing you could handle your business in most situations is enough to keep 99% of people from fucking with you.
Starfuckingman 5y ago
Well, looking at my ring finger and comparing it to my index...its slightly, like slightly shorter than my index. And I am a real softie when it comes to fighting. I feel it. Got a lot to work on I suppose.
Wolveryn 5y ago
Oh man I came on here reading that as like 'fighting the urge for pussy' or something. This ahem.. this makes more sense
WalterEArmstrong 5y ago
Learn how to make a judo knuckle and where on the human body to use it and a lot of your self defense problems will be solved.
Hmmkey 5y ago
Lol what kind of nonsense is this
eaazzy_13 5y ago
I agree, this sounds like some corny anime shit. When some giant thug cracks a pool cue over your head in front of your tinderella, you’re not gunna tiger strike him in a pressure point.
WalterEArmstrong 5y ago
I did say a LOT of your self defense problems will be solved. Anybody with a lick of sense knows that defending oneself against a "giant thug" with any kind of weapon is EXTREMELY problematic at best. For those kinds of situations I encourage folks to carry a firearm.
eaazzy_13 5y ago
I agree with everything you usually say and contribute here,, and I think you have a great way of thinking and expressing redpill concept. I appreciate you as a member of this sub and fellow man, I don’t mean to be a dickhead.
But with that being said, it’s really not realistic that you’re gunna land a judo knuckle in some weakpoint in a streetlight. It just ain’t happening’. You shouldn’t ever rely on that
WalterEArmstrong 5y ago
It'll never happen if one does not practice AND anticipate an assault. However, I'm keenly aware of the fact that there are no guarantees in life. BTW, thank you for the compliment!
Throwaway_5252 5y ago
I spent my entire youth getting into fights. In sports, at school, at home with my own father (domestic violence). I’ll be happy if I never have to get in a fight again.
The dude who wrote this has probably never experienced real world violence. I’m no pacifist, but it takes someone with real world experience to understand the devestation of it and the lives it can ruin. I don’t scrap and brawl over nothing.
Don’t go around calling people “pussy” unless you’re trying to get one between the eyes.
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I’ve fucked up more dudes than I can remember. Broke a dudes elbow who swung at me once I caught him stealing my wallet at a bar.
I came up rough and tumble. I understand the sheer destruction a man can inflict.
I, unlike you, am thankful I went through those experiences so that I am aware of my abilities and know how to shut it down.
I advocate learning to fight because sometimes a dude won’t ask you for permission to hit you in the jaw. I am not advocating puffing out your chest. Think functional violence.
I hope neither of us has to fight again, but I’m happy we are both prepared if we do.
soulcatcher357 5y ago
I agree with the OP. But learn to think first.
An excellent read is Joe Hyam's Zen in the Martial Arts. Read this. A very concise book on the subject.
Learning any martial art is good advice, but its not just about fighting.
monkeemagik 5y ago
There are some real arseholes on this TRP sub. ‘Learn to fight cos it’s Alpha!’ What a complete cock! You need to wise up people get killed every day from fighting and one punch deaths are very common. Yea go ahead and fight. How Alpha you gonna be in jail! Fucking jerk!
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monkeemagik 5y ago
OMG! Now Alpha means you can bribe judges!! It’s becoming comical! What country are you from? Somalia??
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monkeemagik 5y ago
Try Bribing a judge in western Europe of the USA or Australia or anywhere else that can actually afford to pay for their own sewage system unlike the shithole you live in. Let me know how your ‘Alpha’ pal does then.
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Lol. One punch deaths, huh?
Redwhale3 5y ago
Guy below is stupid but he has a point, 1 punch ko's happen all the time and if the other guy falls on the pavement well, its either severe brain damage or death..
monkeemagik 5y ago
Nope you’re wrong also it’s not deaths from ‘banging your head on the pavement’ it’s death from the severing of the artery. Try using google or reading a book or even get some life experiences.
monkeemagik 5y ago
Yea you dick one punch deaths. A single punch can result in one of your main arteries running up the rear of your neck to your brain being severed and the fact that you don’t even know that tells me you really need to educate yourself.
WalterEArmstrong 5y ago
How Alpha you gonna be in he morgue! Fucking jerk!
monkeemagik 5y ago
What are you fucking 13 years old! Yea go fight hardman see how long you last. You’re a danger to yourself.
WalterEArmstrong 5y ago
You don't know shit about me.
NofapFrance 5y ago
I lol'd so hard tbh. "One punch and you could die" the odds are probably near 0 with your artery story, more people die because of their head hitting the concrete bc of a knockout than this artery story, if this sht was true half of the UFC would be dead by now hahahaha
TRPKiddo 5y ago
Needless to say, this goes hand in hand with lifting. Get your numbers up to a decent level and learn how to fight and you’ll be a beast.
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Having the look in your eye that says you have 0 fear is the best deterrent.
Andgelyo 5y ago
100% agree. Having the look of someone who is ready to murder is the greatest defense. Brandon Carter, a YouTube fitness channel, has an excellent video on it.
https://youtu.be/4_-FY0YAeEM
WalterEArmstrong 5y ago
There's a lot to be said for the "Eye of the Tiger" but you'd better have the skills to back it up.
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Yeah, but also you chose your battle well. Given less favourable circumstances would you have reacted differently?
WalterEArmstrong 5y ago
Yeah, having backup will embolden a guy.
monkeemagik 5y ago
In the UK alone there are 10 single punch deaths a year. https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-38992393 Still wanna go fighting in the streets?
chrisname 5y ago
I bet more people died falling down the stairs.
Edit: I was right
More:
Moral of the story: There are lots of stupid ways you can die. You can't avoid all of them. I'm surprised only ten people per year die from single punches though - is that including people who survived the punch but ate concrete and died? Because I would've thought that was the more frightening (and more likely) outcome.
yungassed 5y ago
Yeah, but the difference is EVERYONE gets our of their bed EVERYDAY. How many instances of fight happen a year. It's a percentage thing. You are way more likely to die getting in a fight. It is almost never worth it, unless you fear for your own safety. This is coming from a guy that's gotten in multiple fights throughout my life. Even when you 'win' the fight, you really don't. One fight that I 'won' by knocking out the guy, I ended up getting sued cause the other guy lost some teeth and I got a hairline fracture in my jaw as well. Cost me thousands; what an alpha male winner I was right?
monkeemagik 5y ago
And more people died from cancer than falling down the stairs. What’s your point? You cannot compare the two. The OP is advocating fighting I say fine but don’t whinge when you kill someone in a fight and get 5 years.
chrisname 5y ago
My point is there's a lot of stupid ways to die that only kill a handful of people per year. You can't run from all of them.
FlamingAmmosexual 5y ago
Learning to fight is somewhat like getting your CCW. You hope you never have to use it but it's there. Martial arts also have the benefit of exercise and getting into shape.
That being said, know the risks and use it only when you have to. You decide to take it out on somebody and you could be facing a mountain of charges and thousands in legal bills.
RPInjectionToTheVein 5y ago
I remember getting flack from a lot of guys for posting a failed FR where I lost my temper and put a guy in a headlock. Didn't even scrap.
Entropy-7 5y ago
That would give me a chubbie to see a woman choke out a man. LTR prospects would be cut.
Lateralanouncer 5y ago
Totally agree. Learning to fight also gives you and teaches you to bond with your fellow brothers that you train with. They hit you and pick you up when down. It gives you a confidence that you can calm most situations as your not afraid and not an omega male trying to prove something. It gives you a power beyond the gym junky show pony’s, it’s real shit.
blownnnn 5y ago
This is a stupid post. DO NOT EVER GET INTO A FIGHT. Learn how to fight for fitness and to defend yourself BUT please don't be stupid and get into a fight. Fighters today can go to jail for assault with a deadly weapon (fists) for beating up weakling people who do not know how to fight. Unless both parties agree to a fight, best to just walk away.
WalterEArmstrong 5y ago
If you're over 6 ft. and jacked you'll probably neve have to worry about it but if you're on the shorter side it's a different story. The number of a.h.'s who just can't wait to assault a smaller man is beyond belief.
blownnnn 5y ago
Anyone trying to fight a smaller person is an insecure person of their abilities and can't fight. Nothing wrong with walking away. They may use a weapon on you because anything is fair in a street fight, that person may take your life because they think it's fair. You assault him and he loses, he will charge you and you can get a felony. Fuck that. Don't do dumb shit like this, fight in the ring not in the streets.
WalterEArmstrong 5y ago
The courts recognize the concept of "disparity in size".
Youngyoda89 5y ago
True. This is why xxxtentacion was always fighting. The kid could fight too! Look him up on YouTube.
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Youngyoda89 5y ago
Yes but because he was shot. None of us here are bullet proof.
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1x2many 5y ago
I ‘learned’ to fight when I was little. One of my first memories was having the shit kicked out of me. It made an impression, obviously, as I was maybe 7 (how old is 3rd grade) and I had nothing. The kid was obviously a bully, and decided to torment me, oh he was like 6th grade so big man, cruising the kiddies halls for fun, and I opened my mouth he shut it for me. My dad asked, I explained. He asked what next? I said, next? So you guys know, I got visits from Marvin once a week or so for a month, two. I’d take some wild haymaker that misses by a mile and he’d take me apart like a surgeon. I finally asked my father to help, and got laughed at, which hurt my wee feelings. But he was right. I had to figure this out. So I just kept trying, and eventually wasn’t so badly beaten. Then summer, Marvin gone. But I was fucked with next year by a kid my age and it was more of a fight. While it isn’t fun, it kind of is. Over the years I’ve gotten out of the habit of solving conflicts of minor importance with violence. Running into a guy at 23 or so who put me in the ER was a wake up. He would have killed me, I think, if some dudes hadn’t stopped him. I asked the guy who really did stop it, I didn’t see what he did, I was in no position to see shit. But I was told his name, sought him out, thanked him and said ‘I owe you big, more than I can explain,’ he was a cool guy, told me no. But I owe myself, he says so ‘if I can’t run fast, I should learn to fight, or at least to defend myself.’ I said something like ‘I was trying, man.’ Long story but it turns out I enjoyed learning how to understand some fundamentals of Jiu Jitsu . Throwing someone on the ground, or locking out their elbow and asking if they want to stop, or have it broken, wrists, hips, less american boxing and I took a little judo more controlling the asshole, tossing him when he rushes telegraphing a haymaker. He’s badass because he has a hook, a jab, and maybe a head butt or a sloppy kick? Sure. It’s weird now. I’m not big, nor particularly tough, I’m lanky and tall. But a couple years of learning how to fight can be great, especially if you realize that If there are complete strangers out there who really will lose their shit over some misunderstanding, and being able to physically shut them down provides a sense of ease around strangers, even ones who think they are scary. IMPORTANT: there’s always going to be one who will be next level, and tear you apart, you know you’re cool but you drew the human wood chipper. Well that’s life for you. Some guys get hit by lightning. But most assholes, yeah, no I don’t grin, nod and back away. I don’t let them call me a fucking faggot. I just don’t like that. It is humiliating and stupid. So being able to stop the insults and get a sincerely sorry guy wrapped on the ground in the middle of ‘fucking fagg-‘ and he’s begging to be let go? Crying on the ground, my dick in his ear, as I fuck with his elbow - it is sort of cool. I’m not sure about the whole ‘chicks will fuck you for being a badass,’ I suppose if she’s cute I don’t care why she’s fucking me, honestly, but I’m not defending myself to get laid, I’m able to do it because the alternative sucks big donkey cock. Once I broke a thumb for a guy, but it was accidental. Mostly. So pick a style that matches you. Boxing, kick-boxing, jujitsu, standard vanilla ‘karate,’ - wrestlers are scary fuckers, hence a year of judo was my thinking, heh a year isn’t very long, you’ll be shocked... anything, it’s fun after a while - get tossed around, toss a partner around. I had a cool gf who did get turned on when I’d just literally thrown her on the bed and wrap her up. So it can have benefits outside keeping you alive, too. Thing is it won’t happen unless you make it. If you don’t you’re potentially walking around waiting to become a victim. Don’t go picking fights, but know how to shut them down, and it’s good for your soul.
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badgerninjacow 5y ago
Are you 12? “Faggot”, really? Also, I have no idea who you are, so the fact that you’re sick of something holds zero weight with me. You might try arguing your point first in an engaging and clever way instead of just shouting like, well, a faggot.
mega_kook 5y ago
If the title offends you that much, just get over it and read the post. It’s actually good and compelling
4SkinFred 5y ago
Is that all you took away from this post? Is that he said faggot?
It's pretty solid advice if you ask me. No need to take offense.
faggot
PropositionInfinity 5y ago
It's not your word to use, you limp dick pussy
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ChadsLeftNut 5y ago
Adress the community properly, pussy
G4RRETT 5y ago
you can be really good at fighting but if the other guy has a knife or a gun, which is becoming common these days, it doesn't matter for shit
WalterEArmstrong 5y ago
Get your CCW and pack heat EVERYWHERE you go. Just have the knowledge and good sense to know when to use it and when to keep it in the holster.
FlamingAmmosexual 5y ago
This. Carry a gun. Know how to use it. Carry a knife because it's a tool and a defensive weapon. Learn how to get to both quickly in a situation. Learn a good traditional martial art. Learn a good ground martial art.
Dark_Lord_A 5y ago
My index finger is slightly longer than my ring finger.
Sumshot 5y ago
So, any suggestions how to learn to fight if you got health issues, e.g. problems with knees/ankles or other things?
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It depends completely on your age and health issues. Without knowing those I have no suggestion.
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manwithoutwire 5y ago
Rather fight with my tongue then fight a meaningless fight that may have physical and legal consequences. Why do you think Tyrion and Varys have survived so long in GOT...where everything is fair game...they used their words and psychological manipulation with the cards stacked against them physically. Next thing OP is going to tell me to listen to Five Finger Death Punch and cut out everything else. If self preservation is cowardly then so be it, I'll tuck my balls away every time and preserve myself from harm or even death. TRP ain't no good when you're dead.
4SkinFred 5y ago
This gentlemen is what we call the male hamster.
He's too afraid to deal with physical confrontation, so he justifies his cowardliness by assuming the worst case scenario is likely to happen each time there is conflict.
Stron2g 5y ago
It's not inherently about fighting, OPs message is learning how to fight is valuable because it boosts confidence and you never know when you'll need it. Good fitness too.
domable19 5y ago
Why not be both like john snow
zeuD13 5y ago
Pretty sure Snow died at least once.
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djh860 5y ago
My gym has a heavy punching bag. I use it 3 times a week. 4 or 5 5 min rounds . I sweat my balls off and can barely breath. It’s super aerobic.
I’m getting pretty good. I’m getting the boxer body. It’s a good look. I’ve been doing it for 6 months. It’s a great part of my workout and it’s good for my ego and attitude. I think about things that piss me off and punch them away.
I’m not a fighter but I’m sure I could land a sharp pop on some assholes jaw with either hand if he gave me no choice.
domable19 5y ago
I'll use words first, but they don't reach everyone. Lmao but run up please somebody run up, if my security gaurds don't get you (the police) then your worthy to fight me. The final boss mwahahaha ????????????