Millennials are constantly written and spoken about in various magazines, blogs, news channels, and books. Why does the world have such a hatred for millennials? Here is the answer, because millennials are actually stupid as fuck. Now this may seem a little harsh, but it is simply the blunt truth. (I will use my own life as an example)
- Childhood
About one in every four children, lives with their mother. This could mean single mother, or divorced parents. When raised by a single mother, as a male, you are raised with a female mindset. This could mean freedom in playing with the toys you choose, the way you express yourself, or the type of people you surround yourself with. I am a perfect example. I lived with my mother until I was 16. Up until then, I was very emotionally, clingy, sheltered, and somewhat feminine. I had more friends that were girls, than friends that were guys. I would partake in gossip, chose girl talk over sports, and could not click with very many guys. I was a pushover, and I was okay with people walking all over me. I even when to an elementary school with all female teachers. Now at first glance, this may not mean much, but it really means a lot. Female teachers are actually very sexist. They prefer female students over males, and do not think logically. Punishing a male child for something minor, and letting a female child get away with it. This creates a dominance hierarchy with women at the top of it. This is a large part of the problem. I ended up leaving my previous school for disciplinary issues, and moved to a small Christian school.
- Adolescence
I ended up leaving my previous school for disciplinary issues, and moved to a small Christian school. This is where things started to change. At this school, gender roles were much more traditionally, and guys hung out with guys, and girls hung out with girls. The staff was more male than female, and it was run very strict. When I arrived, I was immediately adopted into a group of guys, and this is where things start to get interesting. When I was surrounding myself with masculine figures, and not little beta bitch boys, I started to treat women with less respect, started to stick up for myself, and started to run into issues with my mother. When my mother saw that I was adopting different ideals, and not being as feminine in my mindset, we began arguing, and fighting a lot. This is essentially a subconscious crab bucket mentality. When people seeing you do well for yourself, they will try to pull you down, sometimes even your own family. This is huge in today's society, as many women put down men who are trying to better themselves. Things got so bad, I went to live with my dad. For the first week, things were alright, and then my dad started to notice problems. I was sheltered, emotional, and relatively feminine. He began to tell me things like "man up", "handle your shit", and "don't complain". From a person who never heard these said to his face before, it was a shock. After a while, it became normal, and I started to realize these ideals.
- Adulthood
When a Millennial man goes out into the world, he is basically an ant, already mentally prepared to get squashed. He is brainwashed by feminine ideals through home life, media, school, and modern society. Millennial men are weak minded, and this is a huge part of the problem. If they try to do better, they will be put down.
Conclusion
Millennial men are major pushovers with no sense of self. They care to much about what other people think, and blame all their problems on everyone but themselves. They do not think of life in it's most basic form. To succeed nowadays, one must become somewhat of an outcast, and not care about societies rules. Almost every successful person has stepped outside the box, and gone through life in an unorthodox way. Almost all millennial men are beta as fuck, and have nothing of value to offer to you. Still around people who are successful, and think in a different way than all these brainwashed cucks. The problem with millennial men, is an over feminized society, with everyone trying to push you down.
Would like to hear everyone's thoughts on this
422456 5y ago
Millennial here.
Every male under 21 has grown up with:
-Parents who gave there kids video games because they couldn't afford to take them out properly
Combine this with the economy, global warming and capitalism (elites), we won't be around for much longer. It's far too late to change. Our fathers and fathers before that have failed us decades ago.
Enjoy the decline.
r0b0b0 5y ago
Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, weak men create hard times.
If humanity survives global warming we will come out stronger than ever!
422456 5y ago
From a pendulum point of view, sure.
Except never in human history: The food that we eat is full of chemicals, government is full liberal, institutionalized feminism, surveillance, the list is endless. Try and think of a few good things that outweigh the bad in current life and society. Here's a tip, you won't.
Even after society collapses or when WW3 happens, humanity will never recover. I believe we've reached the current peak of human civilization. So much will be lost. No wonder the elites are buying tickets to Mars.
I used to think the doomsday preppers were the funniest specimens. How wrong I was.
r0b0b0 5y ago
True, you think no people would survive an apocalypse?
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If we're talking true, nuclear apocalypse, death is a preferable option.
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Imagine if the grid went down, there was no more agriculture, you had to purify your own water, hunt etc. The only people that would live would be the the rural communities in the middle of fucking nowhere that are already close to if not living this way. If it was nuclear unless you were 700 miles from the blast radius and not in the fallout range, the wind wouldn't take the radiation to you, you'd choke on your own blood.
Peak would have been reached and these communities would be plunged into the bronze age once their gas ran out and their tools broke.
expansion101 5y ago
Just like how humanity was able to see the great advancement of technology in 50 years, those individuals would see the regression of technology even farther back and only in a matter of moments.
Terrifying.
LaughsTwice 5y ago
Well said.
kalashnick 5y ago
You sure your dad isn't my dad? LOL The countless times I've begged my dad to come lift with me.
Talk about an exercise in futility.
Youngyoda89 5y ago
The only time I’ve actually taken my dad to workout with me he’s got on a pussy machine and he picked the lightest setting. I was like wtf? And he told me he needed to start very slow. I was so embarrassed.
He also asks why do I pay for a gym membership when I have an apartment gym that’s free.
Every time, EVERY TIME, someone sees my dad they say- THATS YOUR DAD?? I thought your dad was gonna be big... he’s tiny.
Arabian_Wolf 5y ago
I'm always a firm believer that a mans highest role model is his dad.
I'm sorry for you.
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alecesne 5y ago
My dad has straight up said “that will give me a heart attach. I’m like a salmon who having bred, can die upstream.”
He says it as a joke, but then just makes a sandwich and watches tv. He treats like as something that happens to you. Other than the one friend he plays guitar with on Sundays, he does not appear to socialize.
What’s more, my brother is learning that this is acceptable. Living at home and working haphazardly. The X-box is his occupation. It was something the family sort of ignored for a decade. But he’s 30 now. Hasn’t pursued a woman since the time when I got married, 5 years ago.
Blue pill is almost black.
facestab 5y ago
Blue is meant to prevent boys from becoming men.
alecesne 5y ago
I have a neighbor who plays a lot of games and watches anime with a cohort of other lost boys. In elementary and middle school we were very close friends, but you can’t be 12 forever (right?). Now my brother goes over to hang in the basement and they have such tremendous inertia together that I think it will take someone losing a parent to destabilize them.
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As much as I disagree with this I laughed my ass of reading it lmao
Appex1 5y ago
Not only were I told that lifting is unnecessary, but they literally prohibited me getting my calories. I was a 15-yo skinny wreck; 6'3" tall weighing 157 lbs, which made me give up on lifting and adopting an unhealthy lifestyle, which I eliminated about 1,5 years ago and started eating healthy again.
TitsAndWhiskey 5y ago
I was a skinny little bitch too until I joined the military. Always hungry growing up, and not because of poverty.
medresptech 5y ago
To be fair you only really need to go to the gym if you work an office job or other non physical jobs like that. I have worked with my hands most of my life, stayed active, never went to the gym and I am in much better shape than most 30 year olds and better than a lot of 20 year olds and I'm well into my 40s. I'd probably say you don't need to go to the gym either...you just need to stay active.
InterNetting 5y ago
Not everyone wants a blue-collar career. How late into life do you want your livelihood to depend on being able to work a physically demanding job?
aegir98 5y ago
I firmly believe, having watched Stefan Molyneux, that the root of this problem is the State. Mainly the welfare state i.e. coerced transferral of recources.
ethernetcord 5y ago
What about people who work 40 hour+ per week and still need welfare and other government subsidies because the corporations they work for don't pay them enough to survive?
NastiN8 5y ago
I didn't know bernie sanders read theredpill. I welcome you grand cuck.
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redpillcad 5y ago
Millenials are the byproduct of 2 generations of feminism
[deleted] 5y ago
Yea it's pretty simple ha. Everyone is searching for these overly complex answers but it's just this.
redpillcad 5y ago
tonic masculinity is the answer
[deleted] 5y ago
People 21 and younger are not millennials. The cut off was 1995. People born after 1995 are post millennials.
Gainster1990 5y ago
Trust me, those aren't even worth talking about. Lost cause
MayDay678 5y ago
Gen z is merely an extension of millennials lol. Look how young they are being groomed by the vultures when it comes to gun control
NealAMerr 5y ago
There’s actually a huge lift of masculinity and drive against feminism for a good portion of Gen Z from what I’ve seen. There is also some weird non sensical (even more so than before) version of postmodernism and feminism on the opposite side where up is down, gender is whatever you want it to be, and cops are instantly fascists with bloodlust trying to kill people. I think people are just getting more and more polarized in their beliefs. Don’t worry, for Gen Z we will be on the rational side. Where as right now we seem like the crazy ones. People on here always so cynical. Humanity always has and always will course correct.
MayDay678 5y ago
I am a member of gen z (96). Same shit man
NealAMerr 5y ago
Not quite Gen Z (91) but I know a lot of people both Gen Z and Millennials. If that’s your take I think you need to find a new social circle
MayDay678 5y ago
My social circle is fine. Looking at the cultural shifts and attitudes within gen z. It's a mirror of the millennials, if not worse.
NealAMerr 5y ago
I guess we’re just seeing different shit then man, but I am honestly seeing a lot of guys who are way more into masculine and competitive activities who are anti feminism. You’re right if you’re talking about the other side of that though. The Leftist Gen Z is really fucking bad. Way worse than millennials.
MayDay678 5y ago
I may seem like a seismic shift, but we should remember that we are in a microcosm of the internet. We shouldn't get too caught up and think that large ripple effects are spreading outside of our cocoon.
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adroitus 5y ago
Generation Z
max_peenor 5y ago
I have children that are both millennial and generation Z. My eldest calls my youngest "Generation Zyklon." Because of what he does, he spends a lot of time with people under 20. He says what they say when "adults" aren't around is pretty terrifying. I will admit, my youngest has zero tolerance for bullshit.
HarvOnyx 5y ago
That doesn't make sense? All before 2000 obviously lived through the the year 2000?
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I didn’t make up the term. If you don’t like it just call them Gen Z.
25russianbear25 5y ago
The videogames due to being poor, porn due to being poor, beta fathers is spot on.
Videogames and porn are for poor. Rich guys they play sports, socialize, go out, party, go out some more and talk with girls. Poor people cant afford to go out that much and play sports etc. Plus why would a girl date a poor guy? Its expensive to upkeep a GF for poor people. Being poor is a curse.
In my life there were countless times where i had to defend my dad from my mom, since about age 15 lmao. I feel bad for my dad letting my mom take the head of the household and him being the doormat. Thats what happens when youre a pacifist with 0 game.
randomTATRP 5y ago
This is so true. In highschool, I got some pocket money for drinks so I could socialise.
Now, I'm in college and all of my money goes for food and I simply can't go out much. Not that I have much time either since I've started going to the gym and reading TRP/doing stuff I want to do.
frooschnate 5y ago
What do you mean with this
omega_fat 5y ago
Everything. Vast majority of the problems in society is because of colossal amount of manipulation, brainwashing and social engineering. All directed at you being a good corporate slave, only intelligent enough to use computers and machines and stupid enough not to understand how badly you're being fucked. Start with reading about Prussian education system.
PsychedelicDentist 5y ago
Socialism is the issue, NOT capitalism
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What we actually need, is more capitalism
sdrawkcab_kaeps_i 5y ago
I agree.
Capitalism promotes individual responsibility.
Socialism promotes reliance on the state (and starvation).
Cut-throat capitalist societies have no place for laziness.
frooschnate 5y ago
Let’s assume you both have the same idea.
We’re all aware people in power never have the public’s best intentions in mind, there’s always some ulterior motive and manipulation or whatever. It’s what this place preaches, no one gives a shit about you, people use you for their personal gain and you are disposable.
However, I don’t put myself in this headspace of counter-culturism thinking everything is a conspiracy to fuck us over and how we are slaves and must fight the machine. Man that’s some 99’ Matrix bullshit.
If things were like that and you were a lil puppet you wouldn’t be able to do shit about it. It‘s the same situation as men who complain about not being born as attractive as someone else. Get over it, there’s nothing you can do to change that; however it’s your responsibility to make the best of yourself and love it, that or to live in pain and negativity.
Yeah the education system has most likely failed in making people smarter, Prussian system or whatever. I’ve been through countless schools in South America, and they were flawed in similar ways to the American one I went to (which was a nice school in California), but on top they had third world dumbasses and rules on top.
You mostly learn shit that doesn’t really challenge you or make you think, just memorizing bullshit that goes in the bin after passing exams, we know that we’ve all been through that. Teachers just care about completing the pensum, rather than engaging the kids in actual discussion or learning something useful that will make them change their way of thinking about anything. Female teachers always have some bullshit practices or agenda to carry out.
In my case you paid almost a grand a month so some dude could check if you brought the official gay ass certified school socks, and if you didn’t they sent you back home. It’s stupid, it doesn’t make sense.
But with my generation at least, there’s the typical rebelliousness about it where some kids go “when am I ever going to use this?”, you know the type, that Hopsin “did the man who invent college go to college?” shit. It’s the lazy stoners or some mfs who play ps4 all day and has no thoughts of his own or skills, and they think they got school figured out when in reality this is their daycare and if they weren’t here, they’d be doing nothing productive with their life.
Cause education shouldn’t be seen as a privilege or right, shit’s more like a tool that you must take advantage of to progress in whatever stage of life you’re at. It’s on you to learn.
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TheStumblingWolf 5y ago
Fight Club should be required viewing here. Not so much for facts or anything, but it will surely get the ball rolling in one's mind.
alecesne 5y ago
“The system” is an entity; you give too much credit to elite individuals and not enough weight to the pressure we exert on peers. It wouldn’t work if we didn’t all comply, and I’d wager money that you and I are both still parts of this machine.
What do you plan to do when it breaks? It’s a hard question when you really think about it-
throwaway-chemist 5y ago
Of course. So what? See past it and move on.
omega_fat 5y ago
Seeing past things like inflation and sales tax, among hundreds of other systems designed to rob the poor will not make them go away.
throwaway-chemist 5y ago
Agreed. So our options are:
-Bitch and moan about capitalism like Marx et al -- what most of this sub does, eg: "If I cuss and say ((jews)) a lot, its Alpha, not whining!"
-Do your own thing and cram as much hedonism into your worthless meaningless life as possible, you nihilist you. -- what most of this sub preaches but leads to up inconvenient moral questions. Not that many of the people here are truly enjoying the decline.
-Get involved in local politics and content yourself with the admittedly miniscule amount of progress we can make there. -- Why tf would we do that? Talking to people and winning a popularity contest sounds hard. Plus, why would we want power or the burden of leadership? Yikes.
UnderFighter 5y ago
Inflation is actually socialist, not capitalist, because it only happens through government Institutions
omega_fat 5y ago
Inflation is Rotschild owned central banks. The greatest capitalist achievement ever.
Not_Another_Inch 5y ago
Not many philosophical capitalists approve of central banking. It's a perversion of capitalism at best, and more accurately socialist, since it requires government coercion to maintain. Even corporations themselves are just a legal fiction created by the state. So disliking those things is not at all incompatible with capitalism.
UnderFighter 5y ago
Are you intentionally trolling? Central Banks (in the sense of being able to control monetary policy) were first adapted by the italian fascists under Mussolini. Actually, Mussolini defined facism as the unison of central banks and policymakers. This was neither “Rothschilds accomplishment“ nor was it capitalist. You could call it feudal, because the Elite used it to subjugate the industry. The old rothschildian central banks were merely just adjusting to and applying the gold standard. Rothschilds Central Banks adopted the socialist / facist policies after the victory of the allies. I do not want to judge you, but you really have to think about your political beliefs, if you want to be redpill. That does not mean, that you have to become a libertarian sperg, but only realize, that becoming RP is becoming independent. Socialism will never accept self reliant men. Capitalism is the only form (maybe anarchy too) that allows us to act upon our nature. This post has been enough of a time waste, since I could have spent this time lifting.
TL;DR: Capitalism is the only RP way, because it recognizes self reliance, which is the only relevant factor
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johnnight 5y ago
At some point during globalization corporate elites became detached from their nations, becoming the global Davos men.
NomBok 5y ago
He's suggesting there's a better option which is bullshit. Socialism is infinitely worse. At least with capitialism you can work your way to the top while lazy fucks go nowhere.
frooschnate 5y ago
That’s why I asked. Socialism goes against traditional values we supposedly preach here.
Modern American capitalism seems flawed still.
JuliusTestvola 5y ago
Im 28 and I can say my whole generation grew up with this bullshit also.
ReasonablyGoodMexica 5y ago
This level of insight and observational power. You, sir, should be profiting of this.
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dkirkpatr 5y ago
I think it's great you have recognized the root of a lot of the problem. now stop blaming a bunch of bullshit excuses to not start moving forward and grab the bull by the horn look him straight in the eyes. Self pity is a terrible bed mate Global warming (really).
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[deleted] 5y ago
Wouldn’t this be generation Z instead?
dodgers12 5y ago
Global warming is liberal bullshit bro
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VasiliyZaitzev 5y ago
Guys interested in this topic may find the below useful:
Things My Father Taught Me: Advice for guys raised by single moms
-Fatherly Wisdom, Distilled.
Radkin007 5y ago
There a version of this for guys raised by single fathers?
moronicmango123 5y ago
My mom taught me about the importance of being compassionate, the importance of sacrifice, how not to use my overall superior physicality against women who aren’t posing a threat to me, how celebrating a death (even that of a criminal) is in poor taste, how forgiveness heals both ways, and how to empathize with my fellow man.
My dad taught me that constant drinking will cause you to lose your family and an amazing woman who was capable of forgiving someone that put her in the hospital in a drunken rage.
I really love people painting the world, the people, all its intricacies with what feels like an aerosol can. Maybe a roller.
max_peenor 5y ago
Ugg. I need a tampon after reading that.
Your innate protective instinct for a female that is suffering is not your mother teaching you. Taking a fist and smiling about it is a shitty lesson to a young man. She may be signaling something to other women, but she sure as fuck isn't demonstrating how masculine behavior should be, either by her actions or tolerating the actions of others.
It doesn't take a 150 IQ to figure out that getting shitfaced and beating women is going to put you in a bad place. You don't even need your father to learn that. Hell, I figure that one all out on my own.
Now you may kindly ball up all that moral outrage and shove it back up from whence you obtained it. We don't do that in this sub.
moronicmango123 5y ago
I mean I was just replying to the thread and showcasing the different things I learned from both of my parents. I didn’t really mean to claim that the things I learned from my mother were masculine.
However I admit, I did want to convey the idea that a single mother (albeit not fully equipped to raise a son as a father might) had valuable things to learn from and that my father was a trash can of a human being. I guess I overstepped my bounds there. I apologize.
It also might seem obvious to any person that drunken violence is bad but for me that is a lesson I learned early and deeply. I guess I’ll buy you a box a tampons, because it seems like it’s about that time for you. I hope u feel better.
AceMav21 5y ago
Haha I like the endorsed contributors????.
Rian_Stone 5y ago
She taught you how to be everything your father wasn't.
Of course, she was attracted to your father, enough to have him put a baby into her... So I guess you can trade off sexual desire for making mom happy
moronicmango123 5y ago
My father was a human. Alcoholism and addiction is an illness. To say that I was taught to be everything my father wasn’t is to imply you know who I am and who my father was.
I’m not really understanding the whole trading off sexual desire for making my mom happy. I’d really appreciate if you could elaborate.
Rian_Stone 5y ago
https://www.google.ca/amp/s/therationalmale.com/2012/11/21/promise-keepers/amp/
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riggedved 5y ago
I was raised by a single father. I will be constructing a post on it shortly.
Radkin007 5y ago
Cool, I was also raised by a single father and was going to post on it as it’s not the norm. I’d like to discuss in details with you our differences and similarities.
riggedved 5y ago
That sounds great. I’m up for it.
Whereyoursisterwent 5y ago
Interested to read that because I was raised by my mother and the Navy became my dad.
riggedved 5y ago
I did do a write up, but unfortunately, "my account is new and doesn't have enough karma."
I'll post it when I have some.
riggedved 5y ago
Working on it as we speak. I’m not so good with words, but I hope I can convey my points. Will keep you posted once it’s live.
Whereyoursisterwent 5y ago
Just make sure you put in “not taking your boxers off and fucking girls through the boxer hole”
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halfback910 5y ago
Yeah, it's called a cookbook.
mushroom_overlord 5y ago
I don't think so, and I imagine this sub will say "who cares" since it's about positive masculine roles, which the single father is providing. I think a good mother figure is important, but you should probably look somewhere else.
VasiliyZaitzev 5y ago
Looks like a couple other guys are composing one.
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Youngyoda89 5y ago
Hey unc,
I said hi to this bitch the other day and she straight up ignored me. I repeated myself 3x. Just looked me dead in my eye and said nothing. How do I handle a shit test like that?
VasiliyZaitzev 5y ago
A. Don’t repeat yourself.
B. Move on.
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Rian_Stone 5y ago
a shit test implies she wanted to fuck you;
this was not a shit test
Youngyoda89 5y ago
does a shit test always mean she’s wants to fuck you?
Rian_Stone 5y ago
This is why you're told to read the sidebar, so you don't look retarded by asking dumb fuck questions like this.
the 'sole' reason for a shit test is to confirm you aren't bullshitting her when you make her tingle.
TheRedPike 5y ago
You might enjoy this post. https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/99ubhs/shell_shit_test_you_even_if_she_isnt_interested/
Rian_Stone 5y ago
heh, thanks!
ReasonablyGoodMexica 5y ago
Let's see. First, how did you handle it, friend?
Youngyoda89 5y ago
Well when I say bitch I use that term casually. I wasn’t offended by that I was just surprised. I’ve seen this bitch before and she’s smiled and said hi to me. And I wasn’t repeating myself out of spite I legitimately thought maybe this bitch didn’t hear me. But when she made eye contact and spoke to me in perfect English it became clear. Just didn’t understand but I shrugged it off and went on my way.
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Youngyoda89 5y ago
What problem is it that I have specifically?
ReasonablyGoodMexica 5y ago
I believe that was a good answer. Just going your way is a good response.
You must understand that not all sets are winnable. They are not unlike a puzzle or a battle scenario. Sometimes all the pieces are in place and there is just no possible win scenario.
You ask what problem you have in the other comment. Look at yourself, are you proud of where you are?
Youngyoda89 5y ago
I’m somewhat proud but I would like to be further. I would like to be getting more money. I’ve also accepted that I won’t make what I want to make in corporate America. Well at least not at the job I’m at now.
I’ve dug myself into a financial hole and every time I get paid my money is all gone. Other than that I’m good with who I am.
TheBadGoy 5y ago
I also think "the Matrix" has forgotten to update its software. Think about it, we have the Internet now with so many possibilities, yet we are still using the Prussian school system. Millennials are simply tired of the same ol stuff... Hollywood, News Outlets, Politicians, Military, The Rat race and The famous "American Dream" They would rather become Nazis, Marxists or Incels and have a YouTube career. The Matrix has lost control of the narrative and is struggling to find more bodies to feed itself, unfortunately having them clean their room won't be enough. Millenials have given up... being an adult is no longer appealing
Ezaar 5y ago
I mean, we’re comfortable. Theres no real push to become an “adult”.
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As a guy who who battled depression most of his life coupled with being a bit aimless, I spent most of my early adult life just "checked out" being a homebody gamer. Started to change all that in my late 20's, but I feel I'm starting to see more and more of this checking mentality of people in their late teens to early 20's.
I hate to sound like parrot, but I believe the invasion of male spaces is not doing anyone any favors. I'm a proud Eagle Scout and have been wondering just wtf the BSA is doing by allowing girls in. It's sad that instead of the Girl Scouts changing to what their girls want, they instead lose them to the Boy Scouts.
climaxingplatypus 5y ago
"I hate to sound like parrot, but I believe the invasion of male spaces is not doing anyone any favors. I'm a proud Eagle Scout and have been wondering just wtf the BSA is doing by allowing girls in. It's sad that instead of the Girl Scouts changing to what their girls want, they instead lose them to the Boy Scouts."
Has the organization actually gone theough with this? I read about this while back, but never followed up on it.
Incel9876 5y ago
The "Boy Scouts" literally don't exist anymore, they dropped "Boy" from the name to signal their full acceptance of females and the Left. Just last nail in coffin really, hand writing was on the wall when they accepted sodomites and atheists.
blazeddto 5y ago
Can you explain what being atheist has to do with anything boy scout related? Seems out of place to me.
Persaeus 5y ago
Boy Scout Oath
the last BS law - be Reverent
source - an atheist Eagle Scout
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They always historically required members to have some sort of religious affiliation. They changed, not because they wanted to, but because they were badgered by the left (read: women) into it.
Smigg_e 5y ago
I have so many friends that are 27 years old living at home working enough to get by. Don't work out don't do anything to better themselves. Go out every night and go fishing all day on their down time and bitch about how their lives suck and that they're parents are pieces of shit for giving them shit all the time. I cant even hang out with them anymore..
AmeriStasi 5y ago
Yah, most of my male peers can barely find the motivation to be evolutionarily successful. In ltr’s but having children is maybe a lifestyle choice they may or may not make. But for all I know, it could be a genetic problem in them. Idk. I’m doing just fine. First kid on the way, and as many as I can afford to come. The future of humanity looks like me. I’m here to fill America with some hardcore, Slavic DNA.
aesu 5y ago
There is no such thing as evolutionary success at the individual level. The chances of you possessing a unique gene which is beneficial is essentially zero. And, even if you did, you accrue no personal benefit from that gene reproducing in future generations.
Elodrian 5y ago
Evolution does operate on the level of genes and complexes of genes but it's still meaningful to say that Ghengis Khan was an evolutionarily successful individual. It may be playing a little loose with the language but it just means that there are more of his genes as a percentage of the gene pool than there are competing alleles. As far as future benefit is concerned, more copies is all genes "value", while individuals are free to value whatever they choose. Some people value grandkids, some value holding the world record for hotdog eating.
aesu 5y ago
There is no value to the individual in helping propagate whichever combination of genes they possess. There is literally no benefit to an individuals life if everyone born henceforth is a genetic copy of them, or otherwise. The only possible benefit is if someone has been conditioned to feel happier when leaving a legacy, as many are. But, absent, this conditioning, there would be no reason to expect individuals to try and spread whichever genes might be unique or rare to them.
It's also a fairly defunct idea in evolutionary biology that genes compete. They are a small part of a very complex process which cannot be reduced to pure genetic, nor phenotypic selection, and doesn't conform to the primitive Darwinian model of life. Selection is occuring at many levels, simultaneously, and in a synergistic way.
Elodrian 5y ago
People are the ultimate arbiters of value. If we choose to value shiny yellow rocks, then gold is valuable. If a person values leaving a progeny, then their progeny is valuable. What else could "benefit" mean to an individual? Survival? Survival is itself a Darwinian imperative. Money? Chasing government paper is no more laudable a goal than making copies of genes, and it has a much shorter pedigree than reproduction. The world is populated exclusively by the descendants of people who valued reproducing themselves.
aesu 5y ago
I very much doubt that. I imagine the world is mostly full of people who really enjoy sex. For essentially all of our evolutionary history, there would have been little conception of reproducing yourself or leaving a legacy. You'd just never turn down sex because it felt so good. That's all that's required. it's only once we have contraception and all the burden of child raising is on the parents, that we start to see cultural adaptions like legacy seeking.
Elodrian 5y ago
Genes dont require us to be conscious of our motivations for evolution to proceed. All plants strive to reproduce, they do it without benefit of a central nervous system, let alone self-knowledge. Wanting orgasm and wanting children and wanting a genetic legacy are the same drive as far as the genes are concerned. We couch it in cultural adaptations today and contraceptives have certainly changed the game, but what we can say for certain, tautologically, is that the genes of people who choose not to reproduce will be under-represented in the future gene pool. If there is a genetic component to the personality traits which lead people to spurn reproduction, it is a maladaptive phenotype which will be driven extinct.
aesu 5y ago
You cant, since you have no way of knowing if the choice to reproduce has anything to do with any particular genes. Genes found in those people might be over-represented in future populations, for all we know. It could be a particular interaction between genes and environment, which may change in a short period of time.
Prophet6 5y ago
They may be that way now but the loss of squandered potential will catch up with them soon. It's not about following some cheaply marketed American dream, it's about staving off nihilism and finding something that's personally fulfilling.
bonusfruit 5y ago
Standing up straight while cleaning your room. Now that's the key
TheMrk790 5y ago
It never was appealing. But now we tell them, that they are bot responsable and so they ask, why they should put effort in a hard and useless task
Yoblad 5y ago
My gauge for how much of a pussy someone is, is based on eye contact. This is true for all generations but I agree that it seems to be rampant among the early 20 somethings. Every day I pass countless hipster beard ironic glasses wearing 35% bodyfat bitch tits motherfuckers with no chin that will not look me in the eye. I'm about as alpha as a wet maxi pad but somehow I'm a god to be feared to these asshats. It's shameful.
Maybe I'm invoking the wrath of GLO and his sensitive TRT Nips but I say embrace some mild nihilism and enjoy the fall. By comparison you will look better than these shitbags.
RedPlanetMan 5y ago
I thought this short paragraph was great. Can you write more?
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dongpal 5y ago
it's porn. simple and easy. watch a lot and see how you have problems to look at peoples eyes ( which you dont notice because thats your default mode). once you go nofap 2+ weeks you have laser focus. just try, if you manage ...
general_derez 5y ago
Always happy to see support for NoFap in this sub. Getting off porn was a foundational change that was instrumental for me getting my shit together in general.
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KrustyKrabReject 5y ago
So when you watch porn you don't look at people in the eye? And by watching a lot of porn over the years you develop this?
dongpal 5y ago
You look people in the eyes but not with a strong focus, so you tend to look around or get irritated fast. After porn you are more relaxed, but also more exhausted and easier to become frustated with small things. Your masculine power, your tension, your drive to fuck with others and conquering things is gone. That energy when you are horny is one of your most powerful tools, but people tend to piss it away after smallest sight of horniness into pixels.
KrustyKrabReject 5y ago
That eye focus thing with looking around and irritable has happened twice when I was aware of it. The cause of this isn't lack of confidence? This is a porn symptom or is it a symptom of both.
dongpal 5y ago
I always advice to test nofap for 2 weeks (no need for 3 months or something like that except you want to), because its the shortest timespan you need to see benefits. if you experience it I dont need to explain it, I like making people see the "magic" themself, and so far the only people on the internet who call nofap bullshit are people who never tested it (the typical "I want to see proof and source and all this and THEN I MIGHT try it"-person, people who call everything bullshit as long as they dont see all kinds of proof).
Confidence comes from knowing you will succeed at something. When you have no energy and feel tired (because of porn for example), it's hard to feel confident. Theres no power to back you up when confronted. So it is a symptom of both. Nofap wont fill the void of lack of experience, but you sure as hell wont give a fuck trying and failing.
KrustyKrabReject 5y ago
Isn't nofap just ruined by having sex though? Aren't the benefits of nofap( I don't know them...) ruined by having sex. There was a post a couple weeks ago how isn't sex just advanced masturbation if you're not having kids.
dongpal 5y ago
Nah, years ago I made the same question. Result was that your brain knows the difference between sex and porn. Your brain knows if you have a person in front of you.
In my experience, fapping isnt as bad for you. Porn is the REAL culprit. Difference is day and night. Porn gives you higher dopamine boosts than any real woman in the world could give you. Just off the charts.
Problem is just fapping to thoughts can get boring fast, so you try your hardest to come to some crazy fantasies, and then you remember that you could actually just write that crazy fantasy into any porn site and you would be able to actually see that. Just the thought that this is possible can trigger you to do that.
To summarize: If you want real energy/power benefits, no sex or fapping or porn allowed. Very good if you want to achieve something special fast or get ready for a sport match, tournament or similar. Mike Tyson and Mohammed Ali are some examples.
If you want to have a healthy brain, having no addictions, being actually happy person, sex and fapping is fine.
If you want to give up in life and aknowledge to be forever alone, like to feel like a victim and be passive in all aspects of life, do porn and you'll be there faster than you notice.
KrustyKrabReject 5y ago
Should I look up all the benefits to no fap or just try i t out and see for myself?
hackintoshguy 5y ago
I will share mine.
I have had this problem before. my conclusion is that it happens because you don't have any substance in yourself. If you don't have any thought process, and you can't actively think about things, life, challenges and your approach to challenges then you can't see people in the eyes.
The first time i noticed this is when i was extensively trying to read and i came across Ayn Rand's 'Atlas Shrugged' and it was discussed in there.
RedPlanetMan 5y ago
Okay, you should definitely write more. What was the context for all of this?
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I'll echo this but for me it's the handshake. Even being a wimpy blue piller in my early 20's, I 'thought' a firm handshake was something that men just did without any thought, but boy was I wrong. And it's bad enough that hipsters always had the limp noodle grip, but it was even more entertaining when they would look at me with confusion seeming to have no idea what a handshake even is.
Smigg_e 5y ago
For me its guys that think they're above sports and any other physical activity. My friends a pussy. I scratched his cheek on accident throwing a cardboard package to him and he literally cried and moaned about how bad it hurt for over an hour. Meanwhile I'm nursing a broken pinky for 6 months that I never got checked out that gives me issues constantly. He's never played sports. I don't care what anyone says about sports, sports make you tougher. They teach you to deal with pain and tolerate It.
TheNextMilo 5y ago
Yeah yeah but still dude get that pinky checked out, the bones in your hand are fragile and should be checked if broken, as it could cause you problems later in life.
Rudedabega 5y ago
Don’t be a statistic. Men don’t go to the doctor for actual medical issues until it’s too late.
It’s not alpha/beta shit, it’s your life in your hands. Notice something that’s there for more than 2 weeks it’s time to get it checked out.
Smigg_e 5y ago
I've had it checked out. The calcium already formed so I can't do anything for it short of surgery unfortunately.
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drkinferno72 5y ago
How about for guys like me that can't stand team sports like football but prefer more 1 on 1 like boxing, wrestling or martial arts
Smigg_e 5y ago
I think team sports are important in a lot of ways but at least you're engaging in competition and physical exertion.
Dabunghole 5y ago
Team sports are great when you are young, but unless you’ll go pro you should move into an individual one. It allows you fit it in your schedule. Idk when you’ll find a time when 10+ of your buddies can meet to play a game once you’re 22+.
zestytacoz 5y ago
That was me a few years ago. If I somehow met myself from that time, I'd smack him upside the head and tell him to fucking LIFT
HarvOnyx 5y ago
Sports may have made you stronger but that pinky isn't making you smarter...
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liquidizeass 5y ago
Why? Do you get them on your dick?
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Arabian_Wolf 5y ago
The limp noodle grip is so common it's scary.
Kakistokratic 5y ago
But don't you love it when you shake with someone who knows what's good and you both have that little glint of surprise in your eye? Firm solid handshake. Nice!
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Good grief yes. 9 out of 10 handshakes I give to guys I get the limp noodle back. When I actually get a firm shake back it almost throws me off.
Edit: guys not men
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I'm glad you made this comment, because lately my eye contact power has shot through the roof and I'm about as alpha as you are.
Today, I go into my favorite coffee shop on campus and I'm just tired of stragglers and people who waste time. So this particular cafe sells cakes and baked goods for some reason, and this guy at the front of the line is just bitching about how he wants one of the full-sized cakes, but in cupcake size, which he obviously can't fucking get, but he won't shut up about it.
I'm a weird point where I know I'm not alpha, but I don't give a fuck about how I come across in public, because being beta obviously is just a frustrating existence. So I just put on my "fuck you" stare into the back of his head, and he turns around and meets my eyes, and I can tell I just fucked his head up because his eyes dart around and he quickly sidesteps out of my way.
Incidents like this have been happening a lot around campus with eye contact. It's a confidence booster for myself for sure, but it's disturbing because it really makes me worried about the future when guys cannot hold eye contact and visibly panic.
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I had a similar story. I am young and not with the best of frame. I was on the train and it was packed. A man behind me kept pushing me away. Once the train emptied slightly I turned around and gave him a cold stare and he moved along the train trying to avoid me. He was a 30 year old man. Eye contact is powerful.
Praeda18 5y ago
Ditto. I was raised to maintain eye contact when you speak to other people because it’s respectful, but i feel a little pity holding it with some millennial men because they get so flustered and uncomfortable about somebody looking at them, and worse, run off to their friends to complain and moan that somebody was “staring” at them? It’s a very jarring feeling having other people be intimidated by you, especially when you’re only trying to be courteous.
jonpe87 5y ago
This is a psychological tactic of the weak, make you feel weak for being strong than them. This is the tactic of humanism, equalism and etc.. "dont be strong than me, lets be equal, be shit like me"
KrustyKrabReject 5y ago
Why don't you use er on words that are comparative?
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griz3lda 5y ago
I definitely encounter issues with others being afraid of my eye contact. To the point that I probably don't make enough eye contact now because it seemed like I must have been coming off like a serial killer or something, and as funny as it may be it's not always the best thing to be freaking people out. Context: I'm legit autistic (you can't really tell unless you know me or catch a particularly revealing moment though-- also, I have no problem with being such, so don't take this as some self-deprecating admission) and I thought everyone was supposed to be so gaga for eye contact since I constantly hear mentions of autistics not making enough of it-- welp, apparently almost everyone is actually just a little bitch who can't hold a gaze for more than 3s. When I meet someone who can, I'm immediately curious about them. Would be good to develop a more "palatable" eye contact pattern for use when I'm trying to blend in with others for strategic reasons.
edit: god damn, why the unwanted line breaks, mobile Reddit?
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HarvOnyx 5y ago
I'm not suprised in the slightest. Half the fuckers in my town will stab me if I make eye contact.
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Do you have any advice for this?
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I have a firm handshake, lift..... but eye contact in a business-related environment makes me incredibly uncomfortable.
AssDefect20 5y ago
Why do single mothers raise their sons to be beta bitch boys? Its your son, your blood, your genes, you should want him to be the biggest fucker ever.
InterNetting 5y ago
They want their boys to never leave them like the father did. Some would rather their son become a 40 year old virgin than ever leave.
Kampizi 5y ago
+1
HarvOnyx 5y ago
They're certainly getting their wish.
I imagine even those that wouldn't prefer this are getting this.
jonpe87 5y ago
They want you to have a good life, but they dont know what it takes from a man to have a good life, because they are a woman. A woman will never understand reality from a masculine point of view, that we are survival beasts. So once you start to try to face the world her ego fear your loss without compreend that is in this battle that you will become a man of value. It's like a natural shit test.
AssDefect20 5y ago
The scary part is that a majority of men (even now, and that number will rise in the future) dont even know what masculinity is, and cant be expected to raise masculine men.
Orbiter45 5y ago
The emotional and physical pair bonding, activates female submission, and male dominance. Or another way to look at it, is that women loose their autonomy through relationships. They need the chemical exchange, and emotional bond, drawing them into compliance. But they buck at the loss of their personal power. Given how easy it is to get a man's attention, its kinda embarrassing to loss one's self to man. Which makes them fight dirty, demanding comfort, and constantly redefing that that means.
They continue this fight in their brains, creating a roller coaster of emotion. When you know how this works, its crazy accurate, and fun to watch.
jonpe87 5y ago
Yes, we gave to much power for women. Now is like the world don't have more that masculine energy that brings order without ask permission, you can feel the mess, I think woman feel it more. This is the feeling that ugly feminists have in their unconscious, never be loved and have attention of a real man, and now by their hands is like the entire west have this feel that something is lacking. For boys it is a masculine figure, a badass that they can molde themselves and for woman is the order that this man bring in their lives.
Truedemocracy4 5y ago
This. It isn't intentional. They just dont know what it's like to be a man
alex_b98 5y ago
They want them to be Mama's little boy forever, without actually worrying about the consequences of that. Has been happening to me. Would still be if I hadn't woken up in time. It's both ironic and sad.
AssDefect20 5y ago
I was in a tram, watching a grandma talking with her cca 5yo grandson. He randomly flipped off another kid in a car that was next to a tram, and started laughing loudly. Then grandma and 2 other random women proceeded to scold him for 5 minutes. The phrases they used were so disturbing, like they were training a dog. "Good boys have to be polite." "You are grandmas good little boy, right?". You could see the joy being removed from that kids face, his life force being sucked out by the Feminine Imperative. Contrast that with how I raise my younger brother. We would give each other high fives and laugh about it. And guess what? In important social situations he never does stupid shit, and is always the most charismatic kid of the gathering.
hearse223 5y ago
This resonates with me so strongly.
Being raised by mostly female relatives you hear this "be a good boy" shit so much it gets programmed into your psyche.
alex_b98 5y ago
Yes, it is fucking bullshit. And it feels horrible to experience the effects of this programming when it's done to you. I was raised by my psycho mother while my father worked abroad to keep the family going, so no father figure for me during puberty, when I most needed it, and I went through the exact same crap you mentioned. Needless to say, it was a huge wake-up call when I realized all the crap that was going on. It was time for change, and I found the strength to do it
AssDefect20 5y ago
Good luck bro. Dont ever relativize things you accomplish. For every one of you that had the strength to resist the programming, there are ten beta mamas boy low t no gym gender studies hipster bearded feminist instagram leftist cucks.
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Philosophipster 5y ago
#mylifestorytoo Thanks for sharing :)
askmrcia 5y ago
I look at so many pro athletes and you can tell which ones came from a single mother.
Kevin Durant is probably the worse. Love him as a player but it really bothers me how he brings his mom around him and every where he goes. And you can see the effect that it takes on him because he is ridiculously over emotional and insecure.
LeBron James isn't too far behind.
ssr402 5y ago
LeBron James seems to be doing pretty well in every aspect of his life. Hard to see him as a bad example.
askmrcia 5y ago
Him doing well isn't my point. Durant is doing well in every aspect of his life as well.
I'm talking about their personalities more than anything.
Constant complaining, sub tweeting, communicating indirectly, lashes out at people who critize them, very sensitive, ect...
LeBron, Durant, terrell owens and many other athletes from single parent households do this compared to the ones that aren't coming from single parent households.
SuperCrazy07 5y ago
Agreed. You don't/didn't see Tom Brady or Peyton Manning being nice to people who fuck up during the game, only to write vague twitter posts after the game.
NealAMerr 5y ago
Yeah, but you also don’t see Lebron James and Kevin Durant kissing their male kid on the lips either. The man is truly the GOAT, but come on
SuperCrazy07 5y ago
Agreed, that was odd.
Still, if before birth I could choose between being raised by a single mom or having a dad teach my ass into how to become the GOAT with a couple of quirks...
NealAMerr 5y ago
Fair but Lebron is also debatably the GOAT. He had to teach himself how to be the best. Having a beta Dad I definitely relate to Lebron a bit more then I do Tom Brady. But then again, I would have gotten to where I am now a bit quicker with a more alpha dad
askmrcia 5y ago
Or Russell Wilson, Russell westbrook, Steph curry, klay Thompson and many others. Like you can ledgit tell which ones grew up with a father or father figure in their lives.
AllahHatesFags 5y ago
They are incapable of properly raising their sons to be men because they aren't men.
NightTripInsights 5y ago
Because single moms hate men, either moms hate men because they ended up single or they hated men to begin with. Only single mom I know that doesn't hate men and is raising her sons to be strong and respectable like their father is single because her hubby died in the line of duty during a drug raid. Other than that, the reason single moms raise beta bitch boys with their wallet open and attention ready to give is because mom subconsciencely raised what she wanted from the beginning, not a man but a bitch who will take care of her and not question her.
frooschnate 5y ago
They can’t help it
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CainPrice 5y ago
Things are worse today than they've ever been. Society - not just millennials, not just feminists, but even many men - has declared war on conventional masculinity. Today, telling your son to handle his shit, quit complaining, and be a man is child abuse.
Society has decided to free us all. To liberate us poor males from conventional gender roles. It is no longer okay to be a broad-shouldered, beer-drinking, truck-driving, burping, cussing, football fan who's frequently horny, angry, aggressive, and doesn't complain about stupid shit. That's not what a "real man" is like. "Real men" are skinny with squishy bellies, sharp-looking glasses and hipster beards, identify as feminists, and think they might be bi-sexual.
Society doesn't just think that conventional masculinity is bad. Society thinks that conventional masculinity doesn't exist, and that those beer-drinking football-watching conventional men who played sports in high school and talked shit in the locker room are poor, oppressed souls who were only pretending to be like that out of fear of other guys making fun of them and calling them gay.
If you told your story to the correct crowd today, they would roll their eyes at the evils of organized religion and the wealthy and how brainwashed you were by the male culture at your white Christian private school. And they'd point out how badly your father abused you by teaching you to fit a certain gendered role... that happens to get laid often and succeed at life.
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bro its actually crazy, everyone who has these ideals of feminism, and stupid gender roles has zero respect from me. i hope there is a social revolution in the works, and that it happens relatively soon.
CainPrice 5y ago
There already was a social revolution. The upper echelon of society realized that men are too busy working for a living to buy stupid shit or research elections. If you want to make money or get voted into office, you need to appeal to women.
The modern feminized world that tells women (the people who spend more money and vote more) whatever they want to hear while demonizing men (who don't spend as much or vote as often) is no accident.
[deleted] 5y ago
absolutely. look at how much hate TRP alresdy gets, imagine there was a public protest lol. would be a nightmare
jordanbadland 5y ago
someone once brought up TRP in a different, I think even default subreddit, saying that rTheredpill people were rape apologists LOL
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These fucking assholes
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JOHN_MOLESTA 5y ago
Regardless of his policy he's pretty alpha, especially in comparison to HRC who can hardly tackle a flight of stairs.
CainPrice 5y ago
Russia knew their one weakness. If you post bad shit about Clinton on Facebook, women will change their votes. Women are powerless against Facebook.
Rudedabega 5y ago
Muh Russia. Believing mainstream media and catching Trump Derangement Syndrome is a weakness. Falling for the civic nationalism and “based minorities” of T_D is weakness.
Homogenous societies have lasted the longest and been the most successful, the US since the 1965 immigration act (90% European descent then, 60% now) went full steam ahead inching ever closer to its own end.
Reality is not supremacist, it just is. But for the western world the path of least resistance wins out. It’s easier to be pro diversity and multiculturalism than to realize different groups evolved with different cultures some bad some worse. So enjoy the decline.
CainPrice 5y ago
Put your tin foil hat away! The news is clear as day. A lot of people in Ohio voted Democrat even though the Republican guy still won, and I know this means that all of America hates Trump. And some guy who worked on Trump's campaign committed some financial crimes and this means that Trump and everybody he knows is guilty of rigging the election. Get with the program. Oh yeah, and Trump had consensual extramarital sex with women and having consensual sex with women who later come forward because they don't agree with your politics is rape and that means he's sexist.
The TV above my favorite squat rack is tuned to CNN, so I know things.
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AmeriStasi 5y ago
He appeals to European Americans, some of which are women.
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maciejczyk 5y ago
Society now is just a one huge shit test.
jordanbadland 5y ago
How do you pronounce your name?
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Poloyatoki 5y ago
As a millennial man I was left to my own devices since the age of seven. We were the true defective girls. I sucked at school then all of a sudden I get into STEM and started to fuck up shit cause it's mainly a male field, male lecturers etc. All the trauma we face is because we have been raised with ignorance, an incongruence so to speak.
You look like a man, feel like a man but act like a girl. Women don't understand this they just see this incongruence.
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untonyto 5y ago
How fucked up is that. Have problems, see therapist who then UPGRADES YOUR PROBLEMS
Poloyatoki 5y ago
We are really at war. It's a shame to hear what happened to your brother. If he hasn't done major surgery yet I would try and unplug him before the FI does irreversible harm.
untonyto 5y ago
He is plugged in upto his inner soul. Let them repossess his man card.
drkinferno72 5y ago
Ironically most of my stem (programming, networking, robotics) professors were women lol
Poloyatoki 5y ago
Strange I'm Civil Engineering( specifically Water related) were basically just men.
drkinferno72 5y ago
They knew their shit lol
Hydroeletric_ 5y ago
Maybe because they wanted more stability instead of the pressure of working in the field.
Wabbajak 5y ago
One big thing is the education system, as you noted. Not only that elementary school teachers are mostly women who automatically treat girls better than boys ("Hannah is so nice and sweet and reminds me of myself when I was a little girl!"), but the school system itself prefers girly behavior.
Our current school system is entirely focused on discipline, dull repitition and following orders: Students who are able to sit still, listen to the teacher's instructions, never ask critical questions and do as they are told are rewarded. On average girls tend to be more agreeable (being nice and compliant, cooperative and follow orders without wanting to risk an argument) and are more conscientious (orderly and industrious when it comes to following an objective).
Notice how the description of your average teenage boy is anything but what was said above. Boys have a high drive to go out and move, tell jokes and do pranks. Their brains need more dopamine in order to get motivated and do things (partially why boys are prone to be addicted to video-games or masturbation, both of which provide huge amounts of dopamine). In addition, boys have a natural inclination to compete with other kids, to one up whenever they can. Sitting still in a slow and boring environment while listening to teachers is the opposite of what any boy wants and what drives their motivation circuitry.
Male virtues such as strength, courage, challenging authorities and choosing to act on one's own behalf by being highly competitive instead (low agreeableness), the ability to solve problems in creative ways and not be dependent on following well established routes (low conscientiousness) are punished instead.
Critical thinking is punished. The students who learn in order to pass have more success than students who learn in order to understand the topic. That is, partially, why girls tend to have more success in schools.
kalashnick 5y ago
-but the school system itself prefers girly behavior
-Sitting still in a slow and boring environment while listening to teachers is the opposite of what any boy wants and what drives their motivation circuitry.
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Which is why stereotypically, the highest male academic achievers in the classroom are not very masculine.
gonzo1986_2017 5y ago
Reminds me of pink floyd.. Another brick in the wall
chopcult 5y ago
You must have read "Boys Adrift" by Dr. Leonard Sax. You wrote an excellent synopsis of his book.
I would add that girls do well in school not because they want to learn the subject, per say but because they want to please the teacher. Primary education is female dominated. Female teachers are in education primarily because it's not a competitive endeavor and the rewards are validation by most girls and many of the increasingly non-competitive boys. It's a self-perpetuating validation seeking circle jerk tailored to women.
Boys learn by trial and error, competitive pursuits, and attaining competence in their interests. They don't just want to learn, they want to become good at it as it provides the rewards of competence. Boys are willing to take risks and failure is feedback that is embraced as a learning aid.
Female teachers don't want any hint of failure in their classrooms as they see it as a black mark against them. The validation students provide female teachers is their primary motivation.
Blaming parents for their unruly boys is how Ritalin became the best tool in their arsenal to maintain the smooth running agreeable validation machine.
Wabbajak 5y ago
Not exactly, I just tend read and absorb anything that I find interesting about that topic, among others obviously. Where I got most of my information for writing this was this Art of Manliness podcast I listened to a while back. The author talks intensively about boys and why they fail at school.
You mentioned a very important point that stems from girl's tendency to be agreeable: they don't want to get into trouble with the teacher and follow their orders in order to please them.
Anyway, thanks for your input. I will consider reading it.
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AmeriStasi 5y ago
I think it has to do with the decline of marriage. A married, father with children, looks at another father as an ally. Both have more to gain by maximizing their reproductive success with their existing partners, and both have something to protect (their children). It’s easy to build an alliance on that foundation.
A single man, looks at another single man, as a direct competitor to his reproductive access as he has yet to even guarantee his capability to father children.
Even if both stated cases had men of the same age, their behaviour would differ.
A man is evolved to be a father and patriarch of his family. It’s the final stage of a young male’s maturity. Today’s culture of childlessness amongst 20-25% of men and women is a disaster.
InterNetting 5y ago
The world is overpopulated. I'm fine with it.
askmrcia 5y ago
It's really not over populated. If people stop living on the damn coasts then you would see that there is plenty of places and resources to sustain us
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No, it's not. This is leftist drivel.
blackjackANDplates 5y ago
I hope we never find life on another planet because if we do there's no doubt the United States will start sending them money!
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kalashnick 5y ago
...started to run into issues with my mother. When my mother saw that I was adopting different ideals, and not being as feminine in my mindset, we began arguing, and fighting a lot.
This speaks to me a lot because it's happening to me right now.
Since swallowing the pill, there has been a notable increase in tensions with my mother. She uses emotional guilt against me all the time and I'm afraid stakes may rise to the point where she kicks me out of the house. I'm working on my finances to move out, but how do I play my cards in the mean time? I'm 19 & trapped.
Obscene_Goku 5y ago
Treat being at home like being at a hotel - you’re there to shower, sleep and use it as a temporary spot from one day to the next. Be so busy that you spend a minimal amount of time there. Just long enough to take care of any household responsibilities that are yours, otherwise you fill your time outside of the home via the gym, more education, building up a network etc.
AmeriStasi 5y ago
Yah, I’ve made my mother cry on many occasions. Prepared me to deal with making my girlfriends cry. Women cry. All the time. Gotta learn to manage that shit. Just wait until you get a girl pregnant. It’s like the usual shit amped up to 10x due to the hormones. Hard to get sleep some nights lol.
Why do you need to fight your mother after learning about how women behave though. Use it for your sexual strategies, until you get what you want. Ignore the noise at home. You might be picking fights to prove yourself because of your insecurity. Or maybe it’s just practice for you, that will be useful experience later. What do I know.
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I don't know anything about you or your mother, but I think making your mother cry is an ugly thing. I've learnt to not argue with my mother even if she is clearly wrong. Letting go of shit like that is part of being a man. My mother may have fucked me up mentally but she still tried her absolute best and sacrificed a lot. I'm sure your mother has made some sacrifices for you too and that's something you need to respect. This goes for the other dudes in the thread too
j_arbuckle2012 5y ago
Sure. She may have. Still doesn't stop us from evaluating the people in our lives based on our own properly structured standards of decent conduct.
My mother and father sacrificed a ton clawing themselves up out of the abyss of 3rd world poverty to raise my sister and I in the US. They were poor, they knew it, and they hated themselves for it. They were weak enough to try and lie to their own kids about it. No matter how grateful I am for them raising me here in the States I will never forgive them for lying to me, trying to force me into a mold that would never fit, trying to brainwash me into an obsolete set of tradcon behaviors that hasn't been relevant in two hundred fucking years. Your emotions regarding other people can indeed be complex. Don't fall into the black and white thinking, there are some things people do that are unforgivable, no matter how important to your life they are.
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marcopoloman 5y ago
I have said this for the past 20 plus years. Overall father's are better parents. I think that women have a weak mindset when it comes to discipline and understanding the world. I don't think it's intentional. I think is just how they are.
mattizie 5y ago
Depends what age.
Women are much better with younger kids. After that, I completely agree with you.
marcopoloman 5y ago
I'm a kindergarten teacher. The win still goes to the men
mattizie 5y ago
Wow. I take my hat off to you, mate. I tried doing that (teaching young kids), and it was a fucking nightmare.
marcopoloman 5y ago
I work for a private school in china. 3 to 7 years old. The worst kids are the ones overly spoiled by their divorced mothers, kids that live with their fathers are always better behaved. I taught high school my first 2 years here and even then the kids were better behaved when raised by their fathers
mattizie 5y ago
Well what a coincidence, I'm also in China (Nanjing). I didn't have the mettle to handle young kids, especially when I can't speak Chinese, and they can't speak English. For me at least, I can't seem to be able to reason with them like one would normally do with adults. You have to be constantly entertaining/playing games to keep their attention so that they learn, but I ran out of ideas 15 minutes in.
marcopoloman 5y ago
I'm in Yinchuan. North Central China. Been here almost 3 years
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dongpal 5y ago
We just dont like to waste time with them.
MoneyMakin 5y ago
I think you’re projecting your personal relationships and circumstances.
TwoThirteen 5y ago
not to be a dick but that sounds like a lot of projecting
Jet757 5y ago
No you're right. All of this sounds like bullshit written based more on feeling than facts. The whole post is borderline patting OP on the back by implying how he's now somehow better than some generic millennial. The dude writing this is 17. Wake the fuck up people.
Aestheticcunt1996 5y ago
It actually is... the post is said to be about the generation of milennials yet he goes on and talks about his own upbringing by a single mother just to mention the milennials again in his conclusion... wtf? Doesn‘t make any sense.
69odin420 5y ago
I wholeheartedly agree. I had the same problem growing up with my mom and I'm trying to get out of that mental state while trying to stay sober from drugs. It's a struggle but I gotta do it to succeed. Any tips? Just started college.
[deleted] 5y ago
bro simply realize, that literally no one cares about you. hard realization, but its essentially.
CaptainSweno 5y ago
this isn't true. Nobody cares enough to do your work for you. But people care. People will help if you need help and are trying. Actually no they won't. Fuck, you're right.
jonpe87 5y ago
lol, good, people like you when you can provide something. but sometimes you are their punch bag, watch out...
NoMoreMrNiceGuy95 5y ago
You nailed it with that one. I'd also add that after certain point in your life, if you don't do your absolute best to better yourself, no one else will. And when i say better yourself i'm not talking about the blue pill version of it, you know exactly what i mean.
tukiusebi 5y ago
Don't be a pussy. Get your shit together.
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I think this is the best advice. I used to self wallow in my pity and ask why i had a weak father etc. I now do nofap, go gym 4x a week, supplement, drink plenty of water, eat no junk (Just natural foods), cold shower everyday and I try to emulate my uncle as best as I can. He is into woodcrafting (built a tree fort over the summer), shooting, cycling etc. I am 18, long way to go, but just thought I would write it up for my own sake even if no one cares lol.
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mattizie 5y ago
Spend the money you were going to spend on drugs to move out and pay rent. Get room mates to keep shit affordable.
sleepyweaselisawake 5y ago
Your GPA matters, do your best in every class. The core courses and electives are typically BS, but they're easy As. Don't go through the motions, stay engaged and get something out of each lesson.
Join social clubs, volunteer to be a tutor, and don't isolate yourself from your classmates. If you don't understand something or want more info on a concept let your professor know.
Start building professional relationships. They might be able to help when you start a job search.
Good luck.
Kampizi 5y ago
I did a lot of drugs in college, still did well, still am doing well enough
Wish I had tried harder, I would be living like a king instead of we'll enough
Philosophipster 5y ago
Dunno how old your mom is, but mine (70) I've given up on correcting her directly. Instead I set my own boundaries and make those clear to her. And make it a huge point if she does not adhere to it. She will struggle with it, even ridicule you ("why are you acting so strange?" etc.) The most effective method for me was to start applying a filter ie. tell her she can only ask you for something x amounts of time per day or use up y amount of your time to limit your interactions with her to the essence of what she wants to say. Make sure you get angry every time she does not take it seriously. It will generate a conditioning effect similar to Pavlov's. This also prevents her sidebars and random interjections of her opinions (of you), unrelated to the topic you were actually discussing.
For example. This:
"Do you want me to make you some lunch? I'm going to the shop. Can I also bring you something? Not something too sugary of course, or you will get too fat. Btw the neighbour just said they might be coming by tomorrow. I was wondering do you wanted to sit with us so you can tell her about your <insert random achievement>, you do owe me for making you lunch last week....."
(This goes on for another 2-3 mins before she actually waits for me to answer. By which time I already forget the original question, due to being distracted by her attempt to use me as a trophy again. Note the emotional blackmail, patronising, lack of empathy or insight to let someone else process information that has been said, etc.)
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Turns into this (after several weekends of maintaining frame):
"Do you want me to make you lunch?"
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Similarly, my mom will still say things like ''Don't forget to flush the toilet.'' When I'm on the toilet. Every time I visit for a weekend. I suspect this has to do with her needing someone to seem needy and 'more stupid' from her perspective, so she can feel like a grown-up (a label I would hesitate to put on her.)
In the end it helps the communication, because there will be less frustration due to nagging and loss of unnecessary time. This does require you to maintain that frame though, which for me was the hardest part. Do not let her push you back into a spineless boy of a son, that you once were. It shouldn't matter how other people see you, as long as you know who you are.
That should be the frame from which you state your rules. There is no point explaining to her that you are trying to make a change, she probably never had or knows how to. Even when she catches you on mistakes and makes you out to be a hypocrite, this is all part of the attempts (shit tests perhaps) to make you regress back to the little, silly boy she still believes you are. Meanwhile, you are retraining yourself and growing a stronger spine :) Hope it helps
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TL;DR: I started to treat my mom like a little girl. Give her boundaries and set some rules. Simply because she will by default attempt to put me in 'my place' according to her reality. She sees me as a little boy, therefore I must not be able to make my own lunch, flush the toilet, know what time is, etc. She projects it out of fear of having to realise that I surpassed her in so many ways. When you're 16 this is understandable, when you're 35 it's embarrassing and vexing. Or maybe that's just me.
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otakuzod 5y ago
Unless you are taking care of her, why not simply move out?
ColmM36 5y ago
Where I grew up (I'm currently 23), in a rural part of a rural country in Europe, we had all the above. Porn, internet, video games etc.
But it was strange because we also had fathers, traditional mothers, and older siblings who were just like our parents.
Most men I grew up with would have fallen by the wayside to porn and video games, and later succumbed very heavily to alcohol and drugs, but I always found myself idolising my father, his father, and their generation of men. They had control of their lives and respect from each other. They were men. Most were agricultural, hardy men who worked from dawn til dusk. Older men had been blacksmiths and carpenters or mechanics. All of them were physically in shape and intimidating. They all had frame, they naturally had a persona when talking to women, even their wives. They were outspoken, and you would know where you stood with them. I like to quote Tupac and say "I grew up amongst a dying breed".
And the women of my generation... just wow. They are some of the worst people I've ever met. So entitled, demand so much with nothing of value to offer in return.
The values of the men I knew growing up were instilled in me from a young age. Most of those old men have died. Values the world no longer follows, values that others my age do not care for. Almost a relic.
Nevertheless. I am far more like the older generation of men than my own. And I wouldn't trade it for the world.
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Oh my god, im so tired of hearing this. What are the most successful people in the world doing, my boy? what do they do? Who do they hang out with? Did you know Edison was with 30 other scientists when he discovered the lightbulb? He wasnt alone, in a shack, like our individualistic society would like you to believe. He was with many, many other people. And he constantly was with others, every day. Why do people say you must be a hermit to be successful? I do not understand this thinking. What is the deal? Who do you know, being a hermit, who is also successful? Okay, now who do you know, being a gregarious and sociable person, who is majorly successful? My god my boy, what on earth is this nonsense about? Please show me one instance of a man in solitude who achieved success. You mustn't be miserable to succeed... this is a statement that is so.. so prevalent in this forum. Why????
S-Blaze 5y ago
Yeah right you just have to be picky about who you hang with and where. If you really want to be successfull you need connections, lots of connections.
simplisticallysimple 5y ago
You really left out the next sentence? You KNOW he doesn't mean being a hermit. This is what he means by being an "outcast." Not sure why you felt the need to dwell on that and then respond with a strawman argument. He's not even saying what you're claiming he's saying.
throwaway-chemist 5y ago
Want to do something about it? Raise your sons better.
Don't feel up to it? Enjoy the decline.
One of those is more fun. The other is better for the rest of western civ. How much you're willing to sacrifice for the tribe isn't something you can let others decide for you.
Acerp321 5y ago
Spot fucking on. I’m glad I’m not a few years younger. I feel like it only got worse. I’m one of the oldest millennials. Don’t identify with their culture. Never did.
As soon as puberty hit and I started becoming a man I was at war with the teachers and administration in jr high school. All while getting straight A’s. I did not ignore my nature. I would not be bullied. I’d break noses and fight until someone pulled me off. Got punished so severely it was ridiculous. Always threatening to ship me off to an alternative school. It was a defining moment in my upbringing. Had I backed off and been passive to bullies I’d have been a bitch forever. That seems to be what the school system desired...
Well, they are getting it in many cases. The fucking birches they created are lashing out with guns. Feminism has fucked our schools. Millennials are the just largest adult product of it. Add in social media and programming from the mass media, and hell, I feel sorry for them.
It would take a very involved, red pill father to steer a boy in the right direction these days.
jesper_lundqvist 5y ago
The millennial rabbit hole is a deep one. Every generation gets stick from the generations above it but I think millennials are unique in blaming their woes on every generation above them (particularly boomers). You can blame your elders for preparing you poorly for the world (which this post accurately pinpoints) but that wears really thin after the age of about twenty. Most millennials are in their 30s now and yet their Facebook posts are still full of autistic screeching about how somebody else ruined the country.
For the record, I am a young millennial but younger people I know (Gen Z) don't have the same victim culture hang up. The whole "my hobbies include procrastinating, Netflix binging and being bad at adulting" joke that millennials have is seen as really lame even in college. It's encouraging that millennial men are discovering the red pill but it's still a drop in the ocean at the moment
laidtorest47 5y ago
Literally everyone's Facebook posts and memes are whiny bullshit, it doesn't matter who you're talking about. I hate speaking too generally but gen z probably is the more laid back generation, and more emotionally mature.
griz3lda 5y ago
totally agree. sick of the lack of taking charge of one's own life and finances (it's called fucking hustling, catch up) and whining about boomers. and the indulgence in describing onesself as weak and lazy as though it were something positive or universally sympathetic-- disgusting.
420KUSHBUSH 5y ago
Every single time I was in elementary school. Every. Single. Time. Not even exclusively for girls though I just got blamed all the time
NormalAndy 5y ago
Well I'm glad you understand what needs to be done to sort your life out. Better late than never
BIG_HUB 5y ago
I was raised by a single mother, she did the best she could but as women do she couldn’t manage finances, didn’t know shit about raising boys to be men and failed miserably with me and my brothers. My father was out and about and gave zero fucks about us. Thank God I joined the Army when I was 17, it saved my life. I struggled the first few years, but pulled my head out of my snatch and made a successful career out of my service. I retired at 50, this would never have happened if it wasn’t for the Army.
snowmoose1 5y ago
This is right on point however here in Sweden you will get in serious trouble at work or school if you don't have this female mindset to some extent. It is such a lost cause for this country and yeah, i am seen as an outcast but my last girlfriend at least gave me huge amount of respect since i refused to shut up and i said whatever to people in public. Peoples jaws just drop. Remember, people are twice as stupid as you may think, that should give you enough balls to do whatever within the law obviously.
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Attend school in the UK. Was excluded for punching my friend in a friendly manner. It apparently made the female teacher in her words "fear for her life".
AllahHatesFags 5y ago
I think we should bring back the phrase "bitch-made" to describe these millennial men who were raised into soyhood by single mothers.
laidtorest47 5y ago
This argument is one of the biggest strawmen I've ever seen and maybe why I shouldn't even be subbed to this. For one using only your own life as an example isn't scientifically valid. Two, you're saying "millenials are fucking stupid and that's the blunt truth" and expecting people to take you seriously, which of course you will be because this is the biggest echo chamber for that kind of mentality. History repeats itself and unless we learn our history we are doomed to repeat it. As a few people in this thread may have said, we aren't failures in and of ourselves because we've been failed by the mistakes of previous generations. You're placing blame on millenials in the introduction, but then using evidence that the blame isn't on millenials but their parents. Maybe it's not that millenial men are fucking stupid but you don't know how to write an essay and write supporting evidence. Maybe try instead either use evidence that supports your initial claim or change what your initial claim is to be supported by your evidence.
BostonPillParty 5y ago
I’m so thankful to be older and not in the middle of this mess of the current college climate or demonization of masculinity wave. Lucked out I guess.
gbdoragnic 5y ago
Do you really believe this? I tend to find blue pillars blame themselves for everything even things they can't control, they got hung up on impossible.
As a red piller I don't blame others for my life but I understand I'm not a brick wall and if someone fucks up I cut them out as they would hurt me so in essence I'm blaming others but hold myself responsible for continued abuse.
In short it's not your fault your mother mistreated you
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I hope this isn't off-topic, but I sometimes wonder if Red Pill is for the masses or for The Few?
I ask because you said success nowadays requires being an outcast. Clearly we must let everybody else leave themselves behind, and that requires thinking of ourselves as The Few, but we're also talking about opposing a mindset which steals something natural from The Masses.
It all reminds me of Nietzsche's Master vs Slave morality (which I think might have originally come from Schopenhauer). And Nietzsche was writing for The Few.
I think this is a practical aside because thinking in terms of The Few can help mentally solidify the place in society that you've chosen.
the-ape-of-death 5y ago
What I get from reading this is that OP is a little bitch and would like for everyone else of his generation to be one also, so that he does not feel as inferior.
Not all millennial men are feminine or submissive; sorry guy.
DennyBenny 5y ago
Much of what is said here makes some sense. I raised two, and we had a intact home. Do you think my sons are the same as what you are professing? My sons minds were more polluted with this thinking based on college teachings than I think home life.
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most likely, you are the boss of your household, and your mentality subconsciously rubs off on everyone in the house. college is very feminist now, and women can ruin a mans life with the snap of a finger. it is a high possibility that both of these things influenced your sons for the worse.
DennyBenny 5y ago
I was the person who enforced rules, but they also have a strong mother who is some what a feminist. We complemented each other in how the boys were raised. I agree woman are easily snapping men's lives with simple accusations.
My son, or one at least changed 180 in college from masculine to a crazy liberal with feminist ideas and under the spell of a women. He is love, for now.
[deleted] 5y ago
oh, you're a guy? I thought you were their mom bro lol. if your son is in love, tell him two things, the story of the frog and the scorpion (and the analysis), and that she is never yours, it is just your turn. most likely your son is gonna get dumped or cheated on hard, and then he will realize.
DennyBenny 5y ago
You are confused, some people so stay together while on this plain of life. Some do come and go, my son may or may not get dumped or cheated on. The physical body is not important, it is how the souls connect. Once there the physical is secondary.
Persaeus 5y ago
almost all of the Millennial men i know are nothing like this at all
got there heads on pretty straight actually. stop hanging out with fags
_Aaronstotle 5y ago
Millennial men are failing for the same reason a lot of people fail, they’re scared of the truth and would rather use any distraction than face the truth and change themselves for the better. It’s definitely been exacerbated by SJW politics but that just means it’s easier for red pilled millennials
InterNetting 5y ago
32 here, yesterday I gave a guy in his late 50's a jump start on his Harley. He literally did not know how to attach jumper cables to his battery. A nearly 60 year old man. This problem goes beyond millennials.
VickVaseline 5y ago
Going to an elementary school with all female teachers isn't strictly a Millennial thing. I went to an elementary school with all female teachers, and I am a Baby Boomer.
Rian_Stone 5y ago
Hmm, thought you for sure we're a generation x er
VickVaseline 5y ago
...not far off. I'm 58, so that puts me pretty close to the cutoff.
red_matrix 5y ago
Millennials are also addicted to porn before they get to third base.
_A_L_3_X_ 5y ago
sadly i was raised mainly by my mum from 5\~14 years old. then my father could finally move i with us again. that changed a lot. before i had issues finding any friends, but since then it has only been going upwards.
alos, if you want your child to man up, or man up yourself one should go on some kind of exchange year. there one is completly alone somewhere far, far away from home, and has to 'survive' on ones own. this actually helped me a ton, and i really manned up. i finally started standing up for my self, taking fights and not backing off easily.
Rian_Stone 5y ago
It's so weird. I've noticed in RMG comment sections. Everyone talks about themselves with this distanced language. You can't come out and say your millenial upbringing had issues, it has to be 'millenial men'... like they are from Mars or something.
I should probably link the scene with the lye from fight club and not hiding from ones pain/reflections; reference the detachment from realizy-as-hedge against the personal responsability an adult has to focus on his masculinity... Maybe go on a limb and suggest one doesn't want to be masculine, they want someone to point to as an excuse why they won't be able to measure up, so why bother?
But it's early, and I'm pretty sure you would simply lash out at me for doing it and get a ban, I'm simply interested in why this phenominon is happening, and we need more content anyways.
A field report would be nice.
VickVaseline 5y ago
FTFY:
https://youtu.be/e_lSERfLMec
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hackintoshguy 5y ago
https://youtu.be/ainTbj54EBM
Can't format properly cuz on mobile right now But watch 0:31 Quit whining. David firth-not Stanley.
Amazing, how much 2 lines from a cartoon can teach you. Especially when you never heard such words before elsewhere.
JohnIan101 5y ago
That's it in a nutshell. Though I would add a lack of social skills.
zyqkvx 5y ago
I'm over 50. If you have any doubt I am not writing this in the 'butt hurt' context though it might sound like it because I'm accessing child hood memories. This happened 38 years ago. My mother passed years ago.
After 7th grade I got two paper routes. The tiny amount of money it brought me was huge in my life and gave me some agency, especially since I knew how to pinch a penny so tight expensive valuable things popped out. I thought I leveled up in life because I didn't have to ask her approval for every petty thing that cost money, and I could distance myself from her and think on my own. Unilateral fights broke out she did not like that I had two jobs and sabotaged me by sending me to live with my dad. 8th grade was the only year I spent in elementary that I wasn't abused and I gained some overt masculinity. I was always covertly masculine yet was just about the last male picked in sports before 8th grade.
The summer between 9th and 10th grade I spent at a decent low-middle class boarding school. I made the deal with my mom that if I worked all summer (8 hours a day for $2.85 an hour / 5 days a week, 3 months), which came to about $900 instead of my projected $1200, that I would get to keep it. There was a cost of $150 a month for dorm and food. She agreed to pay that part, but I knew she was going to jew me out of it because of her body language. In the end she did not let me have cash. She made me select an item I could have. I chose a $400 bike that I could not really use at the boarding school and didn't.
The lesson of this petty sounding rant is you can not cure a bad master's intentions with extreme efforts. You can not overtly become a man when you are under the thumb of any person.
After that I got a bank checking account at 18 that I did not tell my mother about. I acted like I had little money. Any time I mentioned having money she would tell me I had to pay my own car insurance to wipe it out.
This happened around 1980-1982. I used to ride public busses when I was in 4th grade (about 1975). I didn't see other kids doing this, but I could get away with it by just paying and not making eye contact with the bus driver. I believe 1980 is about the year single mothers were getting an upper hand on boys. Then my generation grew up and raised their kids to be pussies, and that generation raised their kids to be completely gender confused.
M9ter 5y ago
The biggest factor that allows all of this insanity to manifest and suppress men today is the inclusion of estrogens into practically every item men consume. It's the hidden reason why men have allowed all of this to happen. Do you really think men from 100 years ago would have put up with any of this shit? Testosterone levels have been dropping the last few decades due to this intentional poisoning. Guess who owns most of the food production facilities around the globe? The same people who own the media outlets that push feminism. None of this is men's fault....NONE of it....we're the real victims, not them. We are literally being turned into women so they can easily make everyone into emotional drones who don't question anything.......like most women today. Google "The Plant Paradox"by Steven Gundry, MD. Explains how unhealthy our diets really are and a great read.
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Pastelitomaracucho 5y ago
I am a millenial man with the luck of having been raised by loving parents in a strong, solid family with values. Myself and friends which grew in the same conditions, ended up faring much better, especially during our teenage years and early adulthood. I am also proof of your testament, from the other side.
I am also witness of the disaster you can become by being raised by a single parent.
Reading the fatherly wisdom post, I can see that 50% of the advice there was given to me by my mom. While the other 50% of the advice was given to me by my dad. Live is very complex, and I think as a kid, the more brains you have around you to distill the world for you to understand it, the better you will do.
robert-5252 5y ago
Luckily I was able to travel the world as a child so I don’t think I fall under this category
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KarlHungusIII 5y ago
“I was a bitch boy as a kid, therefore all millennial men suck.”
This will challenge for dumbest argument I’ll see all week. Thank you.
primatepicasso 5y ago
Im a millennial and yes you were right until I found out about TRP everything changed after.
boo_radley_awesome 5y ago
I get it. I’m a millennial. But bro, fuck the Boomer generation. They created this dilemma in the first place
derindel 5y ago
One bit of irony id like to point out is about kids being raised by single moms is that this subreddit loves to talk about "spreading your genes around" and not taking care of another mans kid.
GoalExtreme 5y ago
Millennials aren't the shitheads. They were *created by* the shitheads.
It's the result of the garbage guidance by the generations that raised them that they're useless human beings.
Man, some of the posts I've seen on reddits like selfimprovement. "I'm depressed. I live at home, have no job, smoke weed, play computer games, and jerk off to porn all day everyday. I'm 27".
What the fuck? You're under their roof and they let you smoke weed everyday? Someone needs to punch the crap out of your parent(s) for giving so little a shit about you and your future. They don't care less about you, only their lazy selves.
Millenials are a product, and those generations that produced them are the true scum.
raggot_the_legendary 5y ago
The part of female dominant figures in a male's growth (mother, teachers) I'm afraid is very true. I don't think all women in power position are harmful in terms of sexism, but it's definitely true that some are.
The fatherly presence for a boy is as important as it is disregarded unfortunately.
TommyNicotine 5y ago
All over Reddit begging for free stuff. You homeless, son? You on Dunkin Donuts wifi, you hurt clown?
edge_lord_super_17 5y ago
Seems like you enjoy creeping on other member's profiles to stroke that fragile ego of yours???? Imagine, I asked the guy for one simple link and you just had to just blow it out of proportion eh??? well anything to feed that hive mind of yours. Anyways if you want to get alpha dick so bad I'd refer you to go on Grindr so you can get dicked down good and proper, because no guys will accommodate you here. So take your faggot, sodomite, vermin cretin, hideous hide off Red Pill and Mgtow.
Luckyluke23 5y ago
i feel like, on some small level, think and you shall become is really at play here. I mean IF EVERYONE is telling you, your shit. at what point do you start to believe it?
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Absolutely agree with you.
Some researchers found out that weaker men/women more often work for governments/corporations.
So here you go. Those people try to further their genetics hidden in the systems, and prey on strong people, feeling they are their genetical enemies.
Millenial men are hopeless, and futureless, world will eat them as systems are breaking down, and strong and hungry nations are taking over the world. Being complete, strong and flexible, there is nothing to fear, but better greet the changes.
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Millenial man here. 24 yrs old. My dad took the red pill after his divorce with my mom. My mom divorce raped him but fortunately he fought and won half custody. Just within the past year he asked me to read “The Rational Male” by Rollo Tomassi. I feel fortunate to have had a strong father growing up and who is still in my life. He opened my eyes to hypergamy and the plight of the westernized woman.
Not all millennials are cucks
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I don’t know of any such links. It’s cheap, just buy it dude.
TommyNicotine 5y ago
Broke loser requests lots of links to free stuff. Mom not giving you allowance?
edge_lord_super_17 5y ago
Nah I just spend the allowance your mom gives me for dumping loads of cum in her throat thrice a week on weed.
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8700nonK 5y ago
I really don't think the millenials are failing. Looking at college people now vs when I was their age, about 15 years ago, I see everybody is looking waaay better, fitter then before, both guys and girls, also better dressed. These two points are mostly due to internet I think, people are comparing themselves to more than just their immediate peers, which leads them to strive for more.
Being better looking leads to better social interaction, which leads to a better mood, more success, etc.
I see everywhere how people are saying the millenials are entitled, which is not the same as being beta as fuck.
fcking77 5y ago
Agree with you, 32 here, I'm a single son of divorced parents since I was born, that's why my life was always so fucked up but I'm trying to be a better person.
ii-sic 5y ago
Incel Nice Guys Unite!! A lot of this post is mildly entertaining, that's all.
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TommyNicotine 5y ago
Broke 'edgy' guy (lol), in all seriousness create a new email account somewhere, inbox me the address, and I'll send you PDFs of all the free stuff you've begged for. Seriously. I feel sorry for making fun of you, your post history suggests you've hit hard times awhile ago. I'll help you out. Can't send food, but those books are not a problem, lol.
edge_lord_super_17 5y ago
Nah I'm 17, so I don't have a credit card yet, but in all fairness though..... how do you feel to know that your mom is getting slapped, kicked, fingered and spat on by a17 year old edge lord? I make her wear a collar around the house and slap her in the face and tell her to make me a sandwich when I'm hungry. If I'm not satisfied I just spit in the plate and order her to make me a new one. Then when I'm ready to take a dump, I just promptly plop my ass on the plate and shit feces out and command her to eat ravenously. She is my fucking sex slave and you're my mongrel dog. Its so suprising what women will do for their alpha males right? Oh yeah and Ill just take your stupid cum dumpster of a mom's credit card and pay for them myself.... no hassle at all.
mrsomeguy669 5y ago
also a millennial is like up to 18 years old right about now
nobody used the term millennial untill the turn of a millennium witch was the year 2000
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darksoldierk 5y ago
No one said mothers don't love their little boys or that women aren't good mothers, the point people are getting at is that boys need masculine men (actually masculine men not feminist approved masculine men)
PiDelta632 5y ago
I echo the entire second paragraph about the relationship with your mother. I experienced the same exact pushback from my mother and advice from my father. My father divorced my mother about 5 years ago and I lived with her until I got to college. While living with her, every action I took and every word I spoke, deviating from her norm of the emotionally naive and beta son she had raised was met with bitterness. Now that I'm living on my own as a young man I see how poor the environment I grew up in was.
In my case it was my mother and it hurts to see your own family try to pull you down.
We all need these words.
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Because we live in a horrifying dystopic gynocratic socialist hell hole
iLoveReddit32 5y ago
Saying that all female teachers are “actually very sexist” makes you seem incredibly ignorant and stupid. I agree with 95% of what you’re saying, but that line just discredits the entire post for me. You should not be making generalizations like that.
timdo190 5y ago
I’m about as bad a grammar Nazi as they come. Compliments on the great idea expressed and 99% correct grammar but it’s=it is. Its=possession of the it
Aestheticcunt1996 5y ago
Your post is said to aim at milennials in general yet you just describe your own upbringing by a single mother just to mention the milennials as a whole again in your conclusion... doesn‘tmake any sense?
Minopo 5y ago
You are somehow right in many aspects but things are always black and white.
Me p.e. I don t have the fear to talk to people, I can speak and already spoke for crouds over 1000 persons, for 1h or 2h. I know how to lead people, my ideas are very good, and whenever people follow them they enjoy the experience. But most of the time the way I talk isnt simple and precise so I have difficulties on cativating people though my stories.
This means I have hard times on cativating women interest on me or even my friends sometimes.
But I accept the way I am and I know I will never be perfect and to be honest I think women have too high expectations on guys and demand them to be perfect. And I dont want to go that way because off women.
EsCrewxMax- 5y ago
Yep you toxic masculinity guys are on the way out, thank god
darksoldierk 5y ago
Well, until WWIII starts, then you'll be begging them to come back and "protect the poor helpless women and children" like you.
Rian_Stone 5y ago
Shes a bloopie who snuck into the locker room to see some dicks, but she's not wrong.
Pentagon already said most of you are too fat to fight, why do you think they've been building drones 24 7 and funding a computer game?
laidtorest47 5y ago
As if you have the intel to say how a WWIII will play out
darksoldierk 5y ago
History is a very good indicator of the future. Men have always been relied on by women to protect them during times of war, things aren't about to change just because women are now given preferential treatment. But, the real question is, as people like you are pushing masculinity out of our society, will masculinity be there to protect you as it has been in the past? Maybe, maybe not, but in the end you will still need it.
laidtorest47 5y ago
I'm just against bullshit labels. Masculinity seems to be confused with valor here, or whatever else it may be confused with. It's not masculinity that protects shit. Masculinity is just male traits. Protecting things is not an inherently male trait. Just because we're conditioned to think that men are always the protectors doesn't mean that it's masculine to protect or fight wars. I'm not even speaking from a feminist perspective, I'm speaking from a no bullshit perspective.
Just because something can be described as masculine doesn't make it describe masculinity. You're basically just setting yourself up to be just as hateable as the most abhorrent feminists by being exclusionary, but I guess your goal with your argument isn't diplomacy but to dominate the conversation and claim that I'm running masculinity away as if it meant shit. It's just like any other excessive pride in an aspect of one's self; white, black, gay, straight, etc. It's only going to polarize people and make them stupid. It's why feminism is such a problem, because they only aim to remove an opposing argument from the equation and polarize people into either being feminist, or anti feminist. It's why I can't stand a lot of what people say in this sub even though I agree that masculinity should be maintained, because people in here are just fucking negative and talk down on other people who aren't in their in-group.
darksoldierk 5y ago
It was not confused with valor. Valor is something different. I said that women have relied on men to protect them in times of war. Some men volunteered, others were forced, those who were forced to fight and who ultimately died fighting, were not valorous by definition. Think about the white feather movement in WWI. Those men weren't valarous, women shamed them for choosing to not fight in the war and protecting "their country" (ie. women).
We aren't conditioned to think anything, we have brains, we have eyes. Men are physically stronger and bigger than women. Men do not go through one or a group of period lasting 9 months where they are extremely vulnerable. Men are considered to be protectors because of their biology.. Women rely on men for protection because of biology.
You are the one that said that masculinity is on it's way out, what traits were you considering to be "masculine". You seem to have more of an idea in your head of what masculinity is than I do. Because by your own logic, there are no such things as masculinity or femininity since there are no inherent traits that either men or women have. We can all be and do whatever, some of us can do it more effectively (eg. protect) but according to you, effectiveness does not make something inherent, and therefore, does not classify it as either male or female.
You were the one that said masculinity is "on it's way out". What masculinity do you want to "maintain"?
laidtorest47 5y ago
I didn't say masculinity is on its way out, that was the first guy you responded to
newName543456 5y ago
Yes, we know, every masculinity is toxic, guys are supposed to be spineless yes men doing everything their wives want them to do.