I know most people on here would say there is no reason to argue with a woman. And that is correct to a point. There is no reason to argue logically with a woman and be convinced that you will turn her around to see her own faulty thinking. Her hamster can't do shit like that.
Arguing is, however, a great tool that you should have in your toolbox. Women nowadays think they can get away with anything and that everyone will be bend to their will, especially the super hot alpha women. And they are absolutely sick of it. There is no more primitive way of showing who is the boss than to actually verbally show her that you don't tolerate her shit - but in a fun way. Laugh at her attempts to insult you - and then say some nasty shit back in a aggressive tone but with a subtle smile on your face. Toy with her. Make her know that she is a little girl and you are a big dude she cannot fuck with. This is actually a great way of sparking attraction in a relationship and also with game in general. The most important part is obviously, that you do not give a shit about the argument itself or her opinion of you. You never engage in actual debate - you just insult her in a fun way and then proceed to show your superiority and make it sexual. Make her laugh in the end and you are gold. Full range of emotions in a short period of time - tingle overload. It is basically you making her your little bitch in front of her eyes. Patrice O'Neal is the master of this kind of game.
It works only if it is a fun but polarizing battle between the two of you. She will be attracted to the fact that you stood up for yourself at the same time as you built comfort by leading her through her emotional drama bullshit. It makes it even sexier that you cared so little about the outcome that you actually engaged in it - a risky move. It is also like a roleplay of what a passionate couple would do, it adds both value and comfort through massive polarization. Most guys would just be pussies about it and be supplicating to the woman or try to make her look weak through some lame self depricating humor.
If other males try to make fun of you or your girl in a way that is too disrespectful you should also be confrontational. I am not saying you should be a sensitive little shit that starts fights all the time - but people need to know that you will stand up for yourself if push comes to shove. Enforce your boundaries. If you go to the gym (like you should) it shouldn't really be a big deal. Rarely does confrontations escalate to actual physical fighting. I get the whole "real alphas do not fight"-attitude, although it is usually massive hamstering of beta males who are not in contact with their primitive confrontational instincts. If you are an alpha that never gets disrespected - than you either just surround yourself with betas and females to whom you are their alpha or you are not polarizing in that alpha kind of way.
Physical confrontations is not something that I would say is something you should strive to achieve at all times - but it is defintely a HUGE part of our evolutionary background. People respect those who show that they are ready to use physical violence if the circumstances merits it - even if they do not use it. Be in touch with your violent self. Do not let it control you, but make people aware that you are not afraid to be confrontational and call people out on their bullshit if it is needed. This should be known passively, but if a situation calls for it - you have to be able to actively lay the law.
TLDR:
If you carry yourself like a true alpha - you will be polarizing to people outside of your social circle. Not everyone will like you. Some people will even try to fuck your swag up and disrespect you to try to make your girls/friends/social circle turn away from you. Sometimes it is warranted to be confrontational. Both girls and guys in the club will do it. With girls it can turn into a sexual kind of role play which is something you can also use with your plates if they act up.
cornylamygilbert 6y ago
This really speaks to me as I am one who loves a good open ended confrontation and have an intense personality.
Just this past weekend an HB8 challenged me with a pseudo argument and my passion flamed up. I called her out on her bullshit, matched and amped her intensity and showed her I didn't give a fuck if she liked it or not.
Apparently that showed confidence and virility.
she told my buddy's gf to set up a double date for next weekend
Through lifting and not giving a fuck I'm finding that attraction can be effortless. I'm new to the pill, have posted my trials and tribulations / and failures and am now seeing noticeable progress.
posts like these have a butterfly effect and are highly appreciated
thanks for sharing the wealth OP
FinancierGuru 6y ago
It's easy to bully a guy, that's why so many guys do it.
What most people can't do: say no to a pretty skirt.
cornylamygilbert 6y ago
this.
and with a significant population of women, this can be fire under their skirt
IUClD 6y ago
The thing with physical violence these days has gotten kinda weird. It's not about measuring strength anymore. I feel like oftentimes it's about who's more fucked up in the head/has the least to lose/is more sneaky. I don't know about your part of the world but in Berlin carrying knives is quite common (and I know in other western Europe cities its the same) and being stabbed is not an honorable/alpha way to die where as carrying a knife just to balance out power is also super beta imo. So that's quite a strugle...
Entropy-7 6y ago
I'm Canadian. I was picked on as a kid because I was skinny and smarter than the goons at school. When I turned 18 I joined the army reserves and took up a number of martial arts.
The weird thing is that once I packed on about 20 pounds of muscle and learned how to fight, I never had to. Maybe being in the military gave me a certain appreciation about the implications of the use of force. In any event I have not been in a physical confrontation in my entire adult life: I can avoid them or else talk my way out of it.
And I agree that if you go packing, then that is really beta.
IUClD 6y ago
True. As harsh as it sounds to someone who got picked on (I was to so I can relate) theres usually a reason for it. If you radiate authority/are a cool guy people usually don't want to harm you.
markdumte 6y ago
And don't forget that even if there is no knifes involved, you fight each other, you win and fuck him up, you are risking getting sued, including risking prison depending on damage and country.
Fighting in the west is fucked up, yet it is needed. Its very weird.
Entropy-7 6y ago
In Canada we had a notorious case where a guy was living in a rural area and three of his fucked up neighbours decided to firebomb his porch. As is turned out, he was a firearms instructor and so he gets one of his pistols out of his safe, steps outside and fires two warning shots into a tree on his front lawn. The guys scatter and he calls the police.
When the cops arrive they track down the guys and arrest them and then they arrest the victim!. The Crown attorneys went after him hard for dangerous discharge of a firearm and unsafe storage and he had to fight his way though a criminal trial.
There was also the "Lucky Moose" case where a shop owner chased down a thief and held him until the cops arrived. . .and he got arrested for assault, kidnapping, unlawful confinement and such. The Crown charged the thief but then cut him a deal to testify against the shopkeeper.
The judge bent the law and acquitted him but then the Conservative government (such as it was at the time) re-wrote the citizens' arrest laws so that the same farce would not repeat itself.
IUClD 6y ago
Also, one should ask do I really want to inflict harm on anyone unnecessarily/for base reasons.
Zippy1776 6y ago
It's not fucked up or weird. Be mature in confrontations. Once the other escalates, use APPROPRIATE force. Pick your battles and don't be a pretentious dick is usually enough to have no probs in real life. Learn to bluff and learn how to come out on top when the bluff is called. Those of us that are a major threat physically are rarely going to start shit. Most of the people that start shit physically even in bar scenes are very rarely skilled at handling a situation. 90% of it is confidence, mindset and knowing where the line is.
markdumte 6y ago
You would thing so, but there are countries with fucked up laws that will punish you for defending yourself.
Chaddeus_Rex 6y ago
What the fuck is APPROPRIATE force? How do you measure it? If in a situation you perceive as potentially life threatening what do you do? The people who wrote these idiotic laws have likely never been in such a situation and therefore are cucked pieces of shit.
Chaddeus_Rex 6y ago
No...its about power...typical beta hamstering.
Don't give a fuck about pulling a knife on you. Its a game of chicken, if they pull a knife on you and think you are insane, they will back off or escalate (likely back off). If they escalate your response needs to be disproportional. Also learn how to fight against an armed opponent - most people don't know how to use knives properly so having training in this is beneficial.
IUClD 6y ago
I don't know how you imagine such a confrontation. I agree with everything you say about people PULLING knives on you but the real dangerous people DON'T do that. Usually the knives are concealed and dangerous people DO NOT give you time to react. Especially not Disproportionately.
Chaddeus_Rex 6y ago
The game changes when you meet the criminal element. If they pulled a knife on you, you did something wrong before hand. They wont touch you normally unless you act overly aggressive or submissive. If you are respectful, give them no reason to attack and hold yourself as a man they dont want to mess with - they wont. Theyll search for easier prey.
IUClD 6y ago
Nah I have to disagree. Although I think in some scenarios you are right but generalizing this is like saying women who are raped are asking for it.
Chaddeus_Rex 6y ago
Generalizing is not wrong. It is the basis of statistics and science. What I am saying applies to 68% of the population +/- 1 SD.
To be fair, most women who get raped ARE probably asking for it.
IUClD 6y ago
We don't live in a world of statistics we live in a chaotic ever changing world.
I disagree with "most women who get raped ARE probably asking for it.". No point to further discuss this tho.
anyracetam 6y ago
You sound like a Cuck Warrior.
Chaddeus_Rex 6y ago
LOL. That's why most phenomenon (natural as well as human) can be aptly described/predicted with statistics.
Well you are a white knight cuck then if you think that.
markinsinz7 6y ago
I'm very conflicted about this especially with recent events and posts on trp. just yesterday at a party a guy shoved me quite hard cause I was hugging his gf. No doubt he was insecure but I remember a post on girls like 'shit-starting' pricks. And not just trash girls but almost all girls. Ofcourse not all the time but I feel like they want to know that their guy can be violent.
Which begs the question knowing there's no benefit to an actual fight and ofcourse self defense should be executed when necessary, is it a good idea to retaliate when 'threatened' via words or 'shoving'? It's known that one side has to back down in the end or a fight happens cops get called or some worse shit goes down.
Ofcourse getting BIG AF is one solution to never have fights started with u in the 1st place but what's the go to move once a shit starting prick goes about trying to be an ape?
ColonelMitche1 6y ago
Why'd you hug his girlfriend?
markinsinz7 6y ago
Cause I was saying bye to her. Here in Canada it is natural to hug people when drunk n sayin bye. Hell I hug guys too when sayin bye so ....
IUClD 6y ago
Very interesting. I think it ultimately comes down to outside factors. What venue is it, who else is involved, what are the objectives of the parties involvend and many more. I think it's a judgement call that has to happen incredibly quickly. But you can almost never go wrong with not fighting.
That being said, I will personally go for a confrontation most of the time (as OP said an actual fight is very rare) although I wouldn't advice anyone to EVER do it. Rather be a beta who's alive then a dead alpha/boss.
markinsinz7 6y ago
U contradict urself in the last para. There's no right answer for this really. You could 'not back down' but if the other has a weapon it's over. Even the world's best knife experts get cut by an amateur. A 5 inch slash on the arm maybe overcome except that knife may have slashed others too previously. Thus fuckin u up forever
IUClD 6y ago
Yeah it's contradictory. But I've been training martial arts for a long time and I have common sense that I can put to use very well.
Papiless 6y ago
As I said, it's pretty rare that it escalates into actual violence. And if it does - it is probably because you make the judgement that the guy is not the type to carry weapons. I am from Sweden, people do not generally carry knives here unless they are drugdealers/thugs.
anyracetam 6y ago
You should move to US. You can carry guns everywhere and still be a good US citizen.
Entropy-7 6y ago
It depends on the state and city. AFAIK, NYC and Chicago have rather strict laws (and ironically high gun violence rates) while places in Arizona and Wyoming have general open-carry laws and low levels of gun violence.
The_Noble_Lie 6y ago
Hmm. That does not sound even near accurate. NYC has a massive population, especially compared to "places in wyoming and arizona.
Adjusted for that, which is beyond fair, what do you think is the case?
Im not even crazy about politifact but I couldnt find any holes in this analysis.
http://www.politifact.com/new-york/statements/2018/feb/01/brian-kavanagh/rate-gun-caused-deaths-ny-among-lowest-country/
That being said, theres also more off the edge homeless psychos here that I certainly would not wish to get in an altercation with. Nothing to lose means a lot when fighting (thus someone willing to stab you over unintentionally insulting them or not looking them or whatever)
Entropy-7 6y ago
You are right about NYC and New York state in that they have surprisingly low firearm death rates despite having the most homicides in terms of raw numbers. Chicago is much worse, but not the worst. St. Louis is 3 times higher than Chicago and 10 times higher than New York.
St. Louis, Baltimore and Washington DC have some of the highest gun death rates and yet also some of the most restrictive gun control laws.
Looking into it there are mixed conclusions about the relationship between gun control laws and homicides, at least at the state level. The data tends to be cluttered up by including suicides and accidents rather than just looking at homicides.
Additionally, there does not seem to be a lot of high quality studies on defensive use of firearms.
Interestingly gun deaths by state split dramatically along political lines.
IUClD 6y ago
That's fucking stupid. I wonder where the majority of RPs (who what I feel like are often super conservative in their views) stands in the gun/second amendment debate.
Entropy-7 6y ago
RP guys tend to be libertarian rather than conservative. They might not be card-carrying NRA members but most would not be in the gun control camp.
__ROOSTER__ 6y ago
I wouldn't pigeonhole us. Liberartianism is as much a disease as all the rest. There are just as many RP fascists as libertarians.
And if the word fascist freaks you out, you may not have taken the whole pill...
Entropy-7 6y ago
You would need a rather creative definition of "fascist" to cover any Red Pillers whose comments I have read that contained any political content. Of course, you can't sum up a quarter-million people with a single term (personally, I am more conservative than libertarian) but you have to admit that there are a disproportionate number of alt-right members and many more who are suspicious of the establishment and the state, to say the least.
__ROOSTER__ 6y ago
I would probably only need the definition of fascism that the real fascists used instead of the blue pill narrative of what it means.
Suspicion of the state is hardly the definition of libertarianism. Lots of people don't trust the current state
The further down the RP hole you go the more it opens your mind to all the lies.
IUClD 6y ago
True. Quite a thin line tho. I'm not American/nor have I ever lived there so I only have an outsiders perspective.
Zippy1776 6y ago
The gun is because bad guys will have one in most cases. Why would you ever be okay with being at a disadvantage in a life threatening situation? If you're so emotionally depedent on any kind of anti-gun ideal in the USA then it's probably best to just beta out of confrontations and run for a safe space.
IUClD 6y ago
1) There's absolutely nothing wrong with "just beta out of confrontations and run for a safe space." 2) Bad guys can commit way worse crimes with easy access to guns.
Rommel0502 6y ago
The government can commit even worse crimes after the citizenry has been disarmed. Happened time and time again in history.
PhaedrusHunt 6y ago
Jesus Christ no one gets this because we haven't had tyranny in the US since 1776. All the murders ever done with guns in the US arena drop in the bucket of blood compared to what the Kmher Rouge did. Much less Mao and Stalin.
People trust the government so much.
IUClD 6y ago
Yeah, like you see in all the other first world countries where weapons are banned compared to America.
Rommel0502 6y ago
Absolutely.
Signed -
Adolf Hitler, Josef Stalin, Mao Tse Tung, Pol Pot, etc, etc, etc.
The willingness of people to turn power over to the government never ceases to amaze me, especially on this board.
Chaddeus_Rex 6y ago
Yeah you're right, there is nothing wrong if you are a soy boy.
Bad guys will still have guns, because they will be likely part of a gang and gangs have access to firearms.
IUClD 6y ago
Not in countries where firearms are inaccessible to the wide public. Most crimes are not committed with guns and even the gangs RARELY have guns. I remember a case from a few years very well where big biker gangs hq was raided and all their members apartments where searched they literally didn't find a single gun. Of course this is only anecdotal evidence but it's a great example.
Chaddeus_Rex 6y ago
Absolutely not true, unless you are talking about scandanavia. Russia has banned all firearms from the streets, yet shootings are a regular occurrence. Chinese Triads in Vancouver have easy access to guns and conduct quite a few shootings every month, despite firearms being banned in Canada. Moreover, random street thugs regularly get into firefights in Toronto. China also has a problem with Triads with guns, despite them being banned.
IUClD 6y ago
Sorry, I should have made it clear that I'm referring to European Union.
Bshenron 6y ago
At high school I boxed for 4 years and received golden gloves for my efforts - I'm in college now. In no way do I condone fighting to fill your ego, which this very much feels like. If you're being highly confrontational then you're falling into the frame of the person trying to make a scene. Standing up for yourself and your beliefs are vastly different to trying to protect an ego.
[deleted] 6y ago
This OP.
Physical confrontations are a dicey game. In a group you know, that's one situation. You'll know if he's a bad ass. In those situations, push back hard. Even after the first punch is thrown, I can still walk away rather than go in for destroy. Most guys wimp out fast. Just try not to jump up and down and make king monkey sounds when they back down.
In a bar or public place with guys you don't know, that's another thing. It's kind of like betting big on a pool game with someone you don't know; he could easily be a ringer or a shark. Guys can be high, heavily armed, and bring a knife or gun to a fight. Just like the pool shark, they often have an edge on you, and that's why they are so piss-hard to lure you into a fight. Here I use defensive moves and walk away IF POSSIBLE.
Guess I've been lucky. In both situations, nothing has actually come to blows for me in a long time.
[deleted] 6y ago
Always have a exit strategy.
If no exit strategy is effectively available, confront opposition.
TRPconverter 6y ago
So let's say a girl says I have boobs and I reply with: "Yeah I do, you mad becuase they are bigger than yours?" Is that considered too agressive response or not? It's a huge burn imo and wouldn't really spark a sexual attraction.
cornylamygilbert 6y ago
no you say "actually I'm a big fan of boobs on women, surprised you didn't know that. " then turn the convo in your favor
that shit test is doing a few things: calling you out on your feminine traits, challenging your masculinity, wit, and self-esteem, and claiming you're not good enough for her.
Don't bitch out: display your hetero sexuality and interest in her, show humor wit and tact, and have fun with her. Infinitely sexier than being a pussy and defending your shitty body. It also shows extremely high social market value.
it's a form of agree and amplify and you change the focus back to the female body, aced a shit test, and saved yourself from quicksand
[deleted] 6y ago
You're better off taking that burning humiliation and using it to fix your shit in the kitchen and the gym.
They're right to call out your weakness.
Quigon-Jin 6y ago
But why would you say that? What does it gain you? That's not aggressive it's just weak and petty. Say something like yes I do and I caught you staring at them.... Or maybe yeah I'll let you play with them after I play with yours
TRPconverter 6y ago
Why would I do it? Honestly becuase I don't like when people talk shit to me so I just try to banter back in the most savage way I can, it sounds childish and I know I have to change that but that's something I would've said right now.
[deleted] 6y ago
Funnily enough my boundaries led to my marriage being wrecked. My ex wanted sex basically every day. I didnt. She was very attractive and I was still healthy and the quality of our sex was phenomenal but in the past 5 years, my drive really fell. I followed a "less is more" strategy and I was too damn tired. She had a pretty stressful job herself (cardiologist) and I see where she came from but I just couldn't do it every day like she needed/wanted. Twice a week was more than enough for me. I got super invested into business/investments and taking care of my kids and spending time with them.
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[deleted] 6y ago
I wish she talked to me about it before going on Tinder to find one night stands. I could have adjusted.
Dragon_Garoo 6y ago
Ouch. And that's why society crumbles. Back when western society was strong, the shaming alone would have made that a lot less likely. Sorry dude. Find a better woman.
[deleted] 6y ago
It's fine. As for the better woman part, I'll see. I don't know if I want to pursue anything serious for the time being. Right now, I think I'll be happy having fun with 20 year old college students.
Dragon_Garoo 5y ago
20 year old students are fun, and the shittiest of women. Few are worth LTR'ing. Just tell them you care, but don't. Enjoy the decline.
PhaedrusHunt 6y ago
Dude. If your woman wants to fuck every day, fuck every day. Sounds like you weren't that attracted to her. That's the one case where I think a woman is justified banging other dudes.
Dragon_Garoo 6y ago
They can always justify it somehow. Depending on age, a person that wants to fuck every single day past their 30's, is likey broken somehow. Also, it's normal that attraction will wane over time and the 'spark' doesn't flare quite as strong. It shouldn't be an excuse. Yet it is.
throwlaca 6y ago
Dude have you ever been in a relationship? even fucking a super model the 10th time is boring.
PhaedrusHunt 6y ago
My girl looks like Lisa Bonet and I'm on the same level. We're the hottest couple wherever we go. What can I say man? I like to fuck her.
throwlaca 6y ago
Good for you man, keep at it.
LuvBeer 6y ago
Yeah, just do what your wife tells you, that always works.
PhaedrusHunt 6y ago
A healthy man WANTS sex every day unless you're really overworked
LuvBeer 6y ago
a healthy man wants to eat every day too-but not always the same food.
Solon64 6y ago
This. Been in an LTR for 5 years now. She's a sweetheart if a bit moody at times and fairly good looking, but man, seeing the same vagina every night for 5 years gets really boring.
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[deleted] 6y ago
She was super sexy. I still don't know why I didn't decide to fuck her. I was just super tired every day and only wanted it like twice a week. I wish she talked to me first before cheating. We had some communication issues as well.
PhaedrusHunt 6y ago
Yeah she should have let you know. I had a doctor as a plate for a few months. She was an animal in bed.
[deleted] 6y ago
Yeah. Oh well. Perhaps we can have a FWB relationship.
PhaedrusHunt 6y ago
Oh shit! You're the guy from the legal advice post that blew up over here last week!
Dude. Stay the FUCK AWAY from that psycho. NEVER fuck her again.
After your kids are grown, just ghost, man. You'll see her at your kids' weddings and maybe a funeral or something.
Get away from that bitch. And don't think you're out of the woods yet. Yeah, I saw your update. She's being cool now but could turn on you at a moment's notice.
Stay away man.
[deleted] 6y ago
Yeah I'll stay away. I still get angry when I realize that we could have been happily living together if she had just communicated about the "lack" of sex in our relationship. Funny considering we did it twice a week and both of us loved it but that wasn't enough.
PhaedrusHunt 6y ago
No way man. She's someone who threatened to kill you. This shit was WAY deeper than sex. Go bang some 30 year olds now.
[deleted] 6y ago
Yeah we had some issues before too. I guess it was inevitable. We both had stressful jobs (she's a cardiologist) and kids are well... stressful.
PhaedrusHunt 6y ago
Kids are a blessing of you're with the right person
RosstheMoss81 6y ago
Going to be funny when OP gets a knife in his chest.
CallMeHaseo 6y ago
Can we get examples of actual quotes to check these women. The brothers need context.
cornylamygilbert 6y ago
I've literally said in response to a challenge / confrontation
"Because I think that's bullshit" don't get angry, get passionate but not overly invested, it's not a fight, it's: will you stand your ground or supplicate?
keep a cocky smile in your back pocket / corner of your mouth but most importantly: you have to not care
don't be disrespectful, but a fun challenge maintain rapport with her and everyone around you, display that you're not invested in winning or losing, just that you will stand your ground when you think you're actually right.
I found in college that women love an intense / drama filled / passionate / friendly disagreement.
It requires a degree of calibration, but if you go about it with a fun attitude, you will light panties on fire
let me know if I can better clarify in any way; this is the one fringe TRP skill I naturally excel at
WhorehouseVet 6y ago
Amused mastery.
My usual comeback is "Are you retarded?" with a smile on my face.
cornylamygilbert 6y ago
amused mastery
couldn't have said it better
Gearski 6y ago
Cracked up imagining this, definitely using it.
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TriHard7Cx 6y ago
not sure if thats smart, but that is funny as fuck to call girls retarded. im gonna start calling girls autistic lol
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Cloudsurf89 6y ago
Confrontative... Is that retard for confrontational?
Papiless 6y ago
Yeah it is, thanks for pointing it out. English is not my native language.
Cloudsurf89 6y ago
In that case, good effort - comment retracted
BeeBopJoe 6y ago
I agree 300%, the best way to put people in their place is by being straight forward and letting them know you aren't afraid of confrontation. Some people just come off the wrong way when they do it, you shouldn't end up getting into fights.
cornylamygilbert 6y ago
Testify
I've found this can be highly arousing when done with a good degree of calibration, tact and good humor.
There is a significant percentage of women who are floored by this.
Correct me where I'm wrong, but ime it's more often strong, attractive women who devour this behavior. And they just fawn over it when it's done right
[deleted] 6y ago
Disagree. Just once in your lifetime, this needs to happen by your desire/choice. You can do all the lifting you want, all the training in a dojo/gym etc but it won't mean shit if you haven't put it to the test with someone who isn't reluctant to go full force.
Chaddeus_Rex 6y ago
This. A soft middle class man, even after a fuck ton of time in the gym and dojo will still get his ass beat by a skinny thug in a parking lot because he lacks the mentality necessary to win. He will always hold himself back for fear of the consequences. Not so with the thug.
Most men however (unless they are irrecoverable soyboys), can train a switch in their brain that they can turn on that will not back down, which will ironically prevent fights and keep them safer.
ColonelMitche1 6y ago
Good way to get someone's neck broke
anyracetam 6y ago
Agree.
I've seen too many of my big muscled friends but they're so coward when confronted by another skinny man.
Papiless 6y ago
Agree. You need to have done been in a couple of fights/started a couple of fights. Does not mean that you should always look for fights - edited my post, thanks.
CanuckinFL 6y ago
....and the first rule of Fight Club, is what? Jesus boys up the game a bit eh.
BobbyPeru 6y ago
I got in plenty of fights between the ages of 8-15.
I feel like I got that out of my system
[deleted] 6y ago
Guys who actively go out looking for fights are 9/10 masking an insecurity or problem in their life.
The short and skinny fuckers are the worst ones for this
Chaddeus_Rex 6y ago
That's some feminist shit right there.
Some guys just like the fighting. The feeling, the rush of adrenaline, the pain, the sweet taste of victory or the sourness of defeat.
Cozc 6y ago
While ill agree that getting your ass kicked at least once will probably do you more good than harm, anything physical today is a huge risk.
When i was in high school there were at least a fee fights a day. It got worked out, rarely was any major damage done, and half the time everyone ended up being friends afterward. Last week my sister said someone at her school caught a felony assault charge for a 20 second fight
Things are way to legalistic anymore
Zech4riah 6y ago
Yes, that was in high school. When talking about damage - Skinny high schoolers hitting is a whole different thing than muscular 205 lbs guys who can punch swinging around.
Even if you "win" the fight you will most likely take couple of hits and will be sucking soup through a straw for couple of days. At least I did after last time when I took a proper semi-suckerpunch haymaker to my jaw. Too bad that the security stopped the fight right before I was about to finish arm triangle on him and teach a lesson.
Getting into fight (especially on purpose!) is just stupid. The times I've gotten into a fight - all I've gotten is dirty clothes, sore face and ruined night. If you are practising MMA/JiuJitsu/Muay thai or any practical martial art that allows you spar hard - you are good to go also in real life. You need no real life references of the bar fight.
I'd say that OP of this sub-thread (U-M-P) hasn't really gotten into proper practical martial arts with intensive sparring session.
Stop this shit talk about getting into fights. If the situation comes it will come but don't attempt to get into fight even a bit. I could still break arms of 99% guys out there with minimal effort even though all the fighting experience I've got was from the MMA gym - And yeah, all the confidence comes from there too so nothing gain at that area either.
PhaedrusHunt 6y ago
Should have done the Ryan Hall one armed arm triangle and fended off the security guard with your free arm.
These days I do the one armed finish or S-grip.
Can you imagine the confusion of a schlub at the bar being caught in a darce?
[deleted] 6y ago
They really got charges?
When I was a kid the football coach and wrestling coach would break up fights by force, call the dads asking to keep the boys after school, and let them go a few rounds with thick ass boxing gloves. If you knew two guys that hated each other there was a good chance they'd be best friends by the end middle school.
BobbyPeru 6y ago
This was most likely a one sided beat down if they filed charges.... probably a genuine assault- thus, assault charges. I doubt they’d get the po po involved in a mutual fist fight