Maybe I'm just very self conscious, but I often find that it's hard for me to grasp how much people admire me, how well I'm doing, or how good I may actually look.
This is serious shit, excuse the humble brag feel. But its the best way to explain it for me. Now I'm not oblivious, I have a decent amount of friends and they all range in social status, and I can see the admiration they have for me, but I don't "feel" it. What mean by not "feeling" it is, I don't accept it. I don't recognize there admiration as being real. I find myself downplaying any relationship I have with friends. I don't feel as if I belong, even though I'm invited to hang out consistently. On paper it makes sense as to why someone would want you to hang out with them, but in my head it doesn't. I can talk about this for days, but this skepticism I have comes out when I'm with them. I believe it holds me
People tell me I look good, I'm attractive. I get the " my friend thinks you're fine" comments from my female friends, and so forth. I'm not will fucking smith, but I don't feel like I'm that attractive, so I take it with a grain of salt. I've been fucking since I was a kid,and I've managed pretty well without trp. Anybody would agree that I really shouldn't have such a difficult time believing I look decent, but I'm skeptical.
I'm not going to go down the list, but I'm doing great career wise, nothing is clicking in my head. I don't feel great, I don't see myself doing well, but there are people telling me otherwise, and a few closer friends telling me they look up to me.
I have found this is a completely different case if I'm dressed well. I have a lot of pride in my appearance. If i look like a million I feel like it, but I refuse to have a crutch like that. People say fake it til you make it, but motherfucker I'm not making it. I've been reading trp since 2010, and actively making a change since last year. I'm not seeing these results that other people are claiming to have in months. I really believe part of it is not being able to have a genuine trp mentality.
thor_away92 8y ago
You sound boring.
No your conversations aren't boring. No you actually aren't boring, you're bored with yourself. Dig around the manosphere for an article called "The world doesn't give a fuck about you".
You're not creating. Yeah you work, you lift, and shit. But whens the last time you literally added to the world? Paint a picture? Built a birdhouse? Sketch a drawing? Take a stunning photograph? Write a passage? Baked a cake? Grilled a tasty steak? (not for surplus, pure pleasure)
I'd be pretty down on myself if all I did eas consume from this world. In fact the issue you're stating, I solved by creating.
goflames 8y ago
I'm pretty fucking disappointed at the half assed comments like Imposter Syndrome is a real fucking disease lol.
To be honest OP I understand exactly how you feel because I am experiencing this although you do sound much more successful than me.
My explanation is that you are a fucking perfectionist. Look at all the things you described, all of these affirmation is derived from 3rd party and not yourself because there is some sense of self directed anger at not being better. The reason you feel confident if you are dressed well explains it. I too feel like a completely different person when I dress well but too bad that I consider clothes as meaningless material things in our otherwise ephemeral existence. In fact I feel so much existential crisis when I'm around other people. Like I'd be talking but I'm not there, I'm just giving pre-recorded messages or template emotional expression. I'm not depressed but then again I'm not happy either.
What kind of makes me feel better lately is when I realize that what other people think of me is irrelevant. They are gonna give you shit no matter what you do. Sort of like Youtube comments and how if someone doesn't like the song you chose they tell you to go kill yourself. Do I really want to live my life pleasing these type of people? Which leads to my next conclusion, I don't have to be fucking perfect. I can fuck up. It's totally nobody's business to tell me what I should be or shouldn't be. Chances are those people passing judgements or even complimenting you have their own issues or jealousy. Ego is expensive. I spend so many years worrying about that and slowly I'm getting out of this bubble I created for myself. This perfect person who does everything right. I do fear that I might be turning into a total fucking douche sometimes but this is another part that I need to work on another day. The more I really let go of my Mr. Perfect alter ego, the more I realize that at the core I'm actually a super lazy piece of shit who can never hold down a fucking job because I am interested in only money. Like no other fucking desire to change the world (as I lied to myself) or prestige (parents need something to brag to their extended families about). Just making money the way I know best. I never had to try hard because people give you the free pass when they label you as 'smart' or make a very good first impression when in reality, I should've been being who I really am and working on that instead of some fake ass person.
I used to rely on substance to feel confident and drown out the 'empty feeling' but lately I realize that it is entirely possible that those feelings were always with me but never allowed myself to express it. Not when Mr. Perfect is constantly judging your every fucking move. No, you know what, fuck you Mr. Perfect, I live to please myself now. I can be sober and still have a fucking blast and feel good about myself and others.
By no means have I completed this journey, I'm just annoyed how long I spent my early years disillusioned at maintaining this idea of a perfect person with unrealistic expectations, part of which I believe were conditioned to me since I was a kid. Every little fucking thing from how I eat to how I laugh is scrutinized and berated by my parents. Now I realize it's just them projecting their own flaws on to me but it's also my overachieving and drive to succeed that made me buy into the whole thing.
Man I hope this helps, if you want to chat, just send me a message.
machimus 8y ago
Well, there's such a thing as Impostor Syndrome, where more competent people tend to view themselves as less capable simply because they have greater awareness and sensitivity to the subject. Could it be that?
x46 8y ago
Discussions about imposter syndrome invariably lead to suggesting "therapy" or some funny business like it. I think the best advice on here is to do more things with guys
machimus 8y ago
I really doubt that since impostor syndrome is a psychological tendency and not an actual medical condition.
aboveaveragebabydick 8y ago
You live inside your head. My guess is that you're a good dude, it's that shitty little hamster trying to hold you back. You're your own worst enemy. Gain control over your thoughts. Get into meditating. I've been pleased with the results. Start short (5-10 minutes) focusing on your breath and work up to 20-30 mins.
jeezydasnowman 8y ago
Its about self acceptance. I am who I am and I am congruent with my actions and words. I am confident in my judgement and my mental fortitude.
Jax-T 8y ago
You just live and do not feel anything, right? I guess I know what you're talking about, I do not have the knowledge to fix it though, just feel the same shit as you do. Kind of emptiness. Kind od unworthiness (if this is the right word)
Overzealous_BlackGuy 8y ago
That's kind of it. I will say I grew slightly more detached after TRP. So it doesn't help the situation.
gxslim 8y ago
I saw a reddit post a while back that talked about a disorder that causes you to feel that way regardless of how legit you may be. You should Google around, might be something easily treatable, and you can get back on your alpha way
Overzealous_BlackGuy 8y ago
Do you remember any key words or something specific I should look for? I'm going to try to find the reddit post and branch from there and see if there's is anything I can do to improve my experience using trp.
x46 8y ago
He's talking about imposter syndrome
gxslim 8y ago
Nope
favours_of_the_moon 8y ago
Lift
Overzealous_BlackGuy 8y ago
I lift everyday its my hobby
IWillAlwaysReplyBack 8y ago
How do you interact with other high status guys?
I could've written your post OP. What's been helping me is spending more time with guys doing guy things. Once you become a leader of men, someone that commands the respect of other high value males, you'll become alpha.
Embrace the idea that you provide value. You create and give value to others. Others want to be in a relationship with you because you provide value. Once you accept that you are capable of giving value, it will feel less weird when others thank you for it.
Overzealous_BlackGuy 8y ago
The higher status they are the harder it is for me to accept they want to be my friend. Ill be myself, but I think I'm being held back by that thought. Feels undeserving to be around higher status people. Like I'm guilty for something.