I made $80,000 a year as a contractor in a war zone

Look up Fracking jobs - my buddy who was in the Air Force worked as a Frac hand. He said it was 20 days on and 10 days off with tons of OT. He basically worked in Oil doing grunt work. He was pretty mechanically inclined from the military, but he said most of the other employees either didn't have any experience and some didn't even graduate high school. Said it paid well for no degree.

I know a couple of guys who worked in the Canadian Oil sands straight out of high school and made a pretty good living off of it. Don't see why he couldnt go there

1. Look into federal financial aid.
2. Look into welding programs. Many will pay you to go if you sign a contract to work at a certain location for a relatively short period of time.

Your not a 59 year old man according to your post history faggot

if he can get a waiter job at a popular restaurant, im sure he can make at least $200-$300 a night during weekends

some other popular restaurants waiters can make up to $500+ on a busy weekend day

Where is the logic in paying off a degree with cash instantly IF you dont already have it? Its not efficient at all. Time is more valuable than money. If he takes 2-4 years to get the cash, he could have had a degree by then. The loans interest will(asuming he lands a good job in STEM) not be more than he can pay off working. If he is frugal and priorities the debt, he is still earning work experience in his field that whole time and increasing his pay prospects. Additionally he could make use of community college and any scholarships to reduce the debt.

Now the alternative is saving up all the money first for 2-3 years, paying for it up front and not getting back to work for 3-4 more years getting the degree. Delaying career progression, and wasting time.

Debts are shit, but sometimes its more logical to go i to debt if you can leverage the time saved. You need to figure out the interest, roughly what you will earn and how fast u want to pay it back. Imo the choice is simple.

Other optios are working such a job while learning to program on the side for 2-3 years, then finish off with a bootcamp and get straight into software development. That would allow him to save a lot of money, accumulate no debts and still land a good career

My son tells me that he can't find any jobs like this anymore anywhere in the world

Bullshit.

I've spent my entire life close to the gas and oil industry through family and business relationships. If there are people sinkin' holes in the ground somewhere, there's a job that any able-bodied man can sign up for.

They'll hire any fuckin' idiot. Turnover is terrible because the work is often like three weeks on and one week off, but tough shit. Where there's a will there's a way.

And, yeah, he might get stuck in the middle of the woods in West Virginia in the winter for weeks on end. Shit work is shit work, but it pays well if you don't piss it all away on drugs or strippers.

Law Enforcement

Sales. You can make a lot more than 75k a year if your son works hard at it. I'm pretty fucking young, but I have met some people who are killing it and have shown me the possibilities of making high six figures. You don't need a degree for it and you don't need to be a ''natural'' salesman. If he's willing to bust his ass off, he can succeed. He will start at the bottom of the totem pole but if he doesn't give up, he will eventually succeed.

Legal or illegal?

If you can land a spot on a crab boat, $10k a month as a greenhorn. Dunno if the TV show publicity has made this a hard job to get.

Welding?

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I'm going back to college in September to learn welding, I can't get a job either, I'm 25. and I can't work in a job serving customers I have visible tattoos including face tattoos.

I do agree with you though, jobs these days are a fucking joke. Like back in the day it was so much easier.

I did a lot of hustling to get to where I am too. (29 now) I always call bullshit on men who say there is no work. I'm a firm believer you can get to any position you want (par exception) by being persistent and cunning. Not ripping on your son though because society at large is treating everyone like their kids and just attempting to extend highschool/college days into adult life.

Instead of looking for job postings, he should look up ice breaking ships, find the crew on LinkedIn and message them.

I had a back packer staying with me recently, when I first met him, I sized him up and realized he would probably put up a pretty good fight and probably beat me in a race. Woke up the next morning and realized he actually had a prosthetic leg. He told me tales of his travels, 3 years on a weed farm, a year on a prawn trawler in Thailand, truck driver in India etc etc, I believe he was turning 30.

What are you a head hunter for your son? Is he too disabled to join the military? How about apprenticing a local plumber? Everyone needs to shit somewhere. Jobs where people die easily need to be refilled often.. but you already knew that.

Why not the military? Benefits are great etc. unless he’s a pussy.

Labouring. When I was 17 I was working as a labourer for a fencing company making a solid £400 weekly. Ofc this is based in the UK but all I had to do was get the health and safety qualification (2 days training and £200) and I was set. I’m not sure how it works in Canada but I knew a guy who emigrated over there for a few years to do the exact same work so I doubt there’s a lot of difference. There’s so much work in the construction industry and a lot of the old timers are hesitant to go back after the crash so the work’s there for whoever wants it

He's right that there aren't as many opportunities for high paid work as there used to be. When I grew up, young men who were willing to work hard could make decent money in construction related jobs. Wages in those jobs, adjusted for inflation, are quite a bit lower now than they were in the mid 80s. As a commenter mentioned, the energy industry is probably his best bet. It's cyclical but there are opportunities available now. It's going to take a while to save up enough for a four year degree.

If he's going to pursue a worthwhile degree, judicious use of student debt is another way. In the U.S., there are relatively inexpensive community colleges where one can attend for two years and get many of the general credits out of the way. You can then transfer to a four-year institution to complete your degree. If I were him, I'd work part time, use debt to pay the difference, and go to a community college and finish at a four year institution. Yes, he'll have debt to repay, but that's doable if you have a decent career, and he'll have a degree much faster than working somewhere until he saves up enough to pay for a four-year degree.

Send him to West Texas to work in the oil field, or Oklahoma.

Do what my father did. Get him in the car. Drive to the nearest trade school. Tell him to get out and not to come back without an application. Trade school costs less than 10k for a two year degree. Some of them will get you certified. Then drive him to any minimum wage job and tell him too get out and not come back without an application.

He'll learn a valuable trade in computers, machine work, auto work, electrical, pluming etc.

He can pay for it with a minimum wage job.

It's not that hard. People these days are too fucking whiney.

If he doesn't want to do that then tell him how it is. He's a fucking little bitch.

Once he has a two year degree and some certs he can get a job making a bit more than minimum wage. He then climbs the ladder of experience and in less than 3 years he's making 60k+.

From there he should be saving every penny. I was able to keep monthly expenses below $1500. That's an apartment, new car, and yearly trips to Mexico and Vegas. No going to the bars. Never eating out.

Everything else went into savings. After the first year I saved $30K, bought my first rental property and repeated the process. By the time he's 32 he can be making well over $200k a year with just rental income. He can quit his 9-5 and pretty much retire.

Enlist in military

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