I have gone thru some phases during my monk mode journey the past few years. I was once humble, then experienced lots of success and overly arrogant in a bad way. And then i now have what i consider true confidence bordering on arrogance (aka "the golden balance"), and the girls fucking throw themselves at me nowadays.
Not too humblebrag, but why is arrogance/cockiness so attractive compared to humble confidence? You always hear about humble confidence being the ultimate, but in my experience the cockiness gets them wounded up.
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SocalFun777 5y ago
Girl's are always willing to follow those who "seem" to know what they're doing. Being cocky shows that you're very confident and don't care what others think about you. But cocky personalities will piss off other men who know you're full of bullshit and women with bad experiences with cocky men.
Anacondainahonda 5y ago
Or soak their panties. Probably both.
INNASKILLZ2K18 5y ago
Not if you can back it up. Most men will be pissed off, because they can't do it. They want their little blue pill bubble of being 'mr nice humble dude' not to be threatened. They had the balls ripped out of them and thrown in a river far too long ago.
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-ThePathIsTheGoal- 5y ago
Boom. This is it right here. It’s always better to genuinely exude the confidence as in, you do know what you’re doing, because in the long run your “faking it” will be tested and most likely crumble. (Aka: be a true red pilled man).
However, this IS why girls flock to the golden balance, as you put it. The perception that you’ve got it figured out, that you know what you’re doing (whether you really do or not) makes them want to follow you. They want the answers to the questions they have, so they want you to lead them.
This doesn’t just pertain to women, it’s everyone. It’s your friends (examine the beta followers that high SMV men have) coworkers, potential clients (think charismatic personal trainers and their gullible clients).
resnine 5y ago
Yeah, they really love that look of confidence - the "I have it all figured out look" the "I can conquer all obstacles look" the "I can handl it look". Reading trp enough will give that sense, at times being out in public gives me that feeling like in the movie Limitless were the star can see all the moves unfolding and everything makes sense. Frame, shit-tests, AB/BB, abundance mentality/scarcity mentality.
Any power man has a horde of betas. Look at Rappers and their beta posse. But once you lose power, the house of cards crumbles and they will turn on you.
-ThePathIsTheGoal- 5y ago
Spot on. I’ve experienced this and realized it myself on a much smaller scale. I used to natural bodybuild and at my physical peak had a horde of beta followers and lackeys. I injured my shoulder, lost all of my gains soon thereafter was forgotten about. This showed me the true nature of reality. It was a red pill truth that I didn’t realize at the time.
You jus be valuable to other people. They do not love you unconditionally (except your family). Lose your “value”, lose your friends/women.
resnine 5y ago
It's a sobering thought to all men that at any moment they could lose it all. Any strength, power, fame could all be taken away. Look at all the celebrities losing their fame. People getting injured. No one is invincible or impervious. But that doesn't mean one should think of one's self less, or break frame. But it is a sobering thought that centers/balances me. People only like you for how you make them feel/what you give them. Once you lose that thing, you are dirt to them. I'm sure we've all experienced some variation to this more times than once.
resnine 5y ago
fuck'em what they gonna do about it?
JeffPrince 5y ago
yeah it's definitely a good idea to get a reputation as a douchebag
kendallb183 5y ago
At work, your beta ass boss may start to low key target you, or your alpha as fuck boss decides he needs to flex his power and put you back in your place. Either once can have life altering consequences
Project_Zero_Betas 5y ago
Be passive aggressive.
resnine 5y ago
Pretty much. Hardly anyone will call you out for being the cocky arrogant guy. Most will just look at you with resentful eyes but who the hell is going to confront me? slim to none.
Project_Zero_Betas 5y ago
Especially when you have friends in [VERY] high places ;-)
throwawaytrpguy 5y ago
I dunno, beat you to a pulp?
resnine 5y ago
You got problems bruv
Channel_oreo 5y ago
also when you are attractive and cocky you have higher chance of getting beat up. Average dudes getting cocky gets a pass.
grbr3 5y ago
This has gotten me down too. I get paranoid to go out more so from the potential of beta male fags getting in my face when I let out my inner alpha. Now I go armed and feel more confident about holding my frame against those cucks.
throwawaytrpguy 5y ago
I wish my country had the second amendment, damn
Channel_oreo 5y ago
I'm in cali so gun laws are fucked. I also worked in a female dominated field. Most men there are average looking and are BP asf. I'm not saying I'm handsome but I get a fair amount of attention from women. When I try to socialize and be friendly to women I always get the stink eye from other men. That's not even being cocky just friendly and sociable.
resnine 5y ago
Crabbucket mentality, bp billies trying to pull anyone higher up than them down. I get this shit too, anytime I get female attention (chatting them up) and some other men are around (esp BP whiteknights) I'll just get this looks of jealousy mixed with anger from them. It's because I am doing something they will they had the balls to do, or they think if they did the same it wouldn't work because they aren't tall, handsome, or any other xyz excuse.
Bigdoggg323 5y ago
Same bro. When you get cocky you get a bunch of dudes start hating. Fucking cucks they’re made they don’t have swag
Project_Zero_Betas 5y ago
The curse of being a beta
RipoffLeperDig 5y ago
I'm sure a couple of jacketed hollow points might help them rethink their decision.
How is this even a concern in 2019?
throwawaytrpguy 5y ago
Where I'm from firearms are banned, and personally I don't have connections with the black market, so it is a concern for me
thelampshade25 5y ago
Nice larp
huey764 5y ago
Whats larp? Ive seen it a few times but surely it does not mean Live Action Role Play?
RipoffLeperDig 5y ago
I've carried a firearm since the day I turned 18. Many here do.
Good luck.
capecodchips 5y ago
Good luck ????????????
Garathon 5y ago
You sound like a pussy needing a gun to go through life.
RipoffLeperDig 5y ago
You sound like a pussy needing car insurance to go through life.
You sound like a pussy needing a fire extinguisher in your house.
Great argument!
I'm sorry: my life is worth more than some asshat on the internet's opinion of what makes a pussy.
You can take the moral high ground, I'll take my life, thanks.
7and7UntilHomeless 5y ago
In what state can you buy, let alone carry a handgun at 18?
RipoffLeperDig 5y ago
I purchased privately, which is legal. CCW permits issued at 18.
SrslyNoMayo 5y ago
He's full of shit or he's doing it illegally.
RipoffLeperDig 5y ago
But keep talking, counselor!
thelampshade25 5y ago
You sound like someone who’s never been in a fist fight nor a fire fight
Good luck
RipoffLeperDig 5y ago
I've been in several serious fist fights: as I approach 30, I will never enter another.
If you choose to engage me, you will be shot until the threat is stopped - completely legally, where I live.
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Whisper Moderator 5y ago
No. This comment is going away, because I'm not letting you give advice that will get people killed.
Assuming that a fight you are in is a just a saturday night dust up where everyone goes home with their marbles at the end of the night... that's a good way to suddenly discover you've brought a fist to an actual fight.
While it's not legally defensible to use deadly force against someone who isn't actually a threat to you or someone else, there are legal standards for that and you are responsible for knowing them, whether you carry a weapon, or are a peasant.
The fantasy of a manly world where tough muscular guys who have studied boxing, MMA, or karate settle their differences with their fists, and the best man always wins.... is just that. A fantasy. Any time you're in a fight, you're in danger, and can die from sheer bad luck.
There is a time to fight. Never assume Queensbury rules.
RipoffLeperDig 5y ago
Great argument! So someone with a firearm is going to voluntarily opt for a fist fight? If I win, are they going to allow that to stand? Why would I allow an aggressor to possibly disarm me?
Good luck with that theory. This is the West. I'm not going to fight anyone with my hands, too risky, and no point in my state.
resnine 5y ago
Why are you opposed to fighting past 30?
RipoffLeperDig 5y ago
I have too much to lose. There's zero reward in a fight and enormously high risks.
I'll take surviving unscathed every time.
thetotalpackage7 5y ago
I dunno...JAIL for life, maybe?
RipoffLeperDig 5y ago
Not where I live, bubba. Maybe in California.
Mescalean 5y ago
Only concern I see is in the generations taking shit to full retard these days.
Cliche movie scene but hey, it applies
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MFwz2ESjfBQ
Also keep in mind I am pro gun to the point where I have several ar’s... that isn’t what this is about.
Its how eager people are these days to go grab their fucking steel. Egos so fucking fragile they can’t take a most likely deserved ass beating and learn from it. Especially when they are trying to act like billy fucking badass themselves acting cocky. Piled on top of all the other bs the gun is the cherry on top of the cake here.
Edit: well damage has been done. Clarified with the OP of the comment and he makes valid points. Maybe I have been privileged that the people I grew up around can take their ball and go home. We use to hold “friday night sissy fights” in college, people who had beef would go at it. Realistically this is not the entire population and we have a host of unstable individuals who would take the opportunity to crack ones melon open.
My main beef is with antsy college kids who are looking to puff up their chests in a bar conflict, probably over some bitch.
Pointing out how trp has become more leftist is undeniable as well. He does make a valid point. Hes realistic. This is not road house. The guy even states career and physical reasons behind concern. I logically can not let myself argue with him because I do believe in the right to defend one self life.
Hes right, real life is not road house. If someone broke into my house I would do the same as him. I’m not going to try to work a robber into a rear naked or take a leg from him (always go for the knees kids) I’m grabbing my 300AAC and aiming center mass. Oh yeah. Forgot as well the one protection on my state. Dial 911 drop the phone and scream drop the gun. Fire away after that. As long as they hear you feel threatened for your life. Love castle law.
RipoffLeperDig 5y ago
I don't owe you the experience of a "most likely deserved ass beating." Aggravated assault is a crime in my state, I am allowed to stop that crime with lethal force. End of story.
If you don't like that, California welcomes you.
I am in the right, you are in the wrong.
Mescalean 5y ago
Reading comprehension isn’t your strong suite is it? ( I love my gun loving state of AZ... stated that clearly. people dont pull guns during fist fights out here though for the most part)
Thats cool man stop it however you want but the majority of opinions on this sub seem o differ from yours.
The conclusion seems to be that if you are going around acting like billy bad ass yet have to rely on a firearm to hold your own weight you’re not all that badass.... sure you are in the right. Cool. But as a fellow man, I’m going to be way more respectful of someone who settles a fist fight with fists instead of going for the easiest option.
Black eyes, busted lips and bruised noses heal.
RipoffLeperDig 5y ago
Why do I give a fuck if someone thinks I am a badass or not? People I will probably never see again?
I don't give a fuck (nor do I need to) about the respect of random individuals in this kind of a situation. Until this situation arises, nobody knows I am carrying.
Assuming that's all you make out with. Ever have your head smashed against the ground repeatedly?
Mescalean 5y ago
No, like I said most of the fights I have been in and around end with someone getting drilled in the nose, clipped in the chin, or choked out and the guys I hang out with on a regular basis are familiar with martial arts. Although I give karate kid shit.... none of them go full retard. Even the dumbasses I played football with in highschool never slammed someones head against the concrete. Most people I would think would recognize as a “killshot” of sorts. But then again you may run into someone who isn’t all there.
With the “badass” thing getting called into question the scenerio seemed like a bar fight..... not someone trying to take out a “high level individual with 8% bf” like say if you were getting mugged or the like.
Carry if you are a politicians or lawyer or whatever man. Its the club thing I have problem with. If thats your game then just don’t be surprised if certain people don’t wish to do business with you or associate. Plenty of people have been able to take an ass beating and move the fuck on. Plenty of others and I seem to agree on this as seen above. And personally, just personally, if I knew someone who used a gun in an instance where it would have just been whoever is out first.... ppppffffft.
Also. 5’8” 185, going to guess bodybuilder now
RipoffLeperDig 5y ago
This is the chief issue: I have no need nor desire to risk my life and future on the good nature of someone trying to "beat me to a pulp."
Nobody knows I carry except my very close friends (who are also probably carrying.)
I just can't risk that a little "ass beating" is all that's in store for me.
People's jimmies are rustled because reddit (even TRP) is largely leftist and relatively anti-gun.
The idea that an individual has the power to immediately, legally end one's life does not sit well with these people.
TRP also has an abundance of tough guys who indulge in the martial artist fantasy ("The Red Pill" is literally a reference to The Matrix - everyone thinks they are Neo.)
How many random people do you recognize in daily life? How many people in the club? I've got much bigger problems in the event of a defensive shooting than the potential opinions of strangers who won't ever recognize me.
Yes - I'm physically all form and no function (beyond being able to pick up and put down heavy shit - no conditioning, very little fast-twitch muscle.)
shrimpeye 5y ago
You badass. If someone is trying to fight you with their fists in America are you allowed to shoot them legally? Would that be considered reasonable force?
RipoffLeperDig 5y ago
In my state, absolutely. I don't have to sit back let you feloniously "beat [me] to a pulp" - and presumably disarm me, constituting a (further) threat to my life.
Mescalean 5y ago
Some states yes. Depends on where you live.
Personally though as a gun owner and 2nd supporter I don’t understand why the youth these days are so eager to go grab the steel and shoot someone for a fist fight.... if you are going to walk around acting like the badass you aren’t.... might want to start taking bjj and kick boxing.
Not only would you look like a true badass but you’d most likely avoid a heap load of court, fees and always gotta think about the persons family. Families usually try to sue for killing their kid.
Dude I went to school with started up with ol heroin and robbed houses. He got shot. Deservedly so, yet 50+ retards from my hs “oooooomg god g why why he was so yooouuuuunnnngggg”. Point being, even after a justified shooting the defendant can get painted as the bad guy.
Tldr; im all for guns and the 2nd, have built several ar’s myself. Don’t use a firearm as your only reliance... if your are skinny or small bulk up and train in a martial art. Guns get grabbed from peoples hands and people get sucker punched man.
As glamorous as the media makes shooting someone seem these days really think about the domino effect there young blood ????
shrimpeye 5y ago
these comments are a relief to read. glad that guy who was all “i am very badass, i would simply shoot em up” is getting downvoted
Mescalean 5y ago
I think it’s a maturity thing man. Idk how else to describe as, im reaching my 30’s getting into late 20’s and not feeling as gung ho about shit as when I was 16-20.
Even fighting is risky now. People are lawsuit happy as fuck as well.
I think there are a few things younger men can work on as self defense/improvement wise.
learn to use a gun, how to clean and repair it. Imo this is as important as knowing how to change your tires.
learn a martial art. Bla bla bla bjj. Bla bla bla boxing, both great. Requires discipline and great exercise. If you are truly worried about self defense in a street bar or party scenario. Krav maga.
RipoffLeperDig 5y ago
I'm approaching 30 and am actually trained (10+ days of defensive handgun training, day and night.)
I understand the legal implications and would never want to have to use my sidearm, but there is no scenario where in my (free) state you are going to engage me, [attempt to] "beat [me] to a pulp," and I am not going to use it.
I'm 5'8", 185lbs @ 11% (DEXA last week) - I am physically quite capable and imposing. I will never enter another fist fight, simply too risky for me.
Mescalean 5y ago
How is it too risky?
RipoffLeperDig 5y ago
Fist fights are fucking dangerous.
This black eye/bruises/flesh wounds thing isn't how shit goes in reality, nor is it even remotely the extent of the damage someone can do to you.
I am a high-value individual: I can lose my physique, my ability to work, etc. with one head trauma event.
Fists are enough to kill and maim, make no mistake. Smash someone's head against the ground or have yours smashed against the ground and you'll understand.
Also: I am out solo more often than not. I don't give a fuck how tough you think you are: you are not taking on >2 (fat/heavier, especially) individuals, no matter how well trained you are without incurring significant personal risk.
There's absolutely no reward for winning this hypothetical fist fight, and nothing but massive injury/legal/etc. risk. If I am forced into this situation, I'm using lethal force to end it immediately, incurring the least amount of personal risk possible.
Mescalean 5y ago
Well thanks for having a good reason. Wasn’t asking to be a smart as was legit curious if you were an athlete or some type of LEO. High end lawyer ya know.
I guess where we differ mainly is career and size. I’m 6’1” 205 myself and have never had a problem holding my own. I won’t hit first because, well assault, but I’ll join in if I get dragged in. Have had my scraps with bigger guys as well. 6’5” plus. Most of them never got fucked with growing up, in reality most giants cant fight for shit. Why I say career is I work for a MMJ grow. DPS already stole one gun from me and I got off light because there was never any paper work filed (they literally stole it). What firepower I have is saved strictly for bugout/home protection. Would love to be able to conceal carry but until god emperor makes weed federally legal ATF says I’m SOL and should not own any firearms.
This country man ♥️✌️
Ps. Thanks for being specific. Please take reminder is that my main issue is with the college kids who would take that “9mm” comment above (honesty cant remember if it was you or someone else) as pack your shit going out to bars and dont worry about being a dick or starting shit because you have a gun. We both know there are..... impressionable youth... who would take it as so.
Curious whats your daily carry?
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Sin-Silver 5y ago
Humble confidence takes time to show, cocky confidence is apparent almost immediately. The later has a big advantage in situations where your being introduced to people on a rapid fire basis, like on a night out.
resnine 5y ago
How do you show cocky confidence though?
RPinthemaking 5y ago
This is so fucking true. At my last job I literally almost got into a fight with a coworker cause of this. It kinda feels great to piss these guys off.
alpha-zach 5y ago
Humble confident is better for long term gain, arrogant cocky is better for short term gain.
This isn’t just with women, it’s works across the board with most elements of life.
Read or reread 48 laws and you’ll see this play out throughout history. Many laws have a reversal that strikes the balance between arrogant confident and humble confident.
Various thoughts:
Arrogant cocky instills short term fear in enemies and boldness within self. But even King’s fall to a peasant who plays the game slow and waits for the right moment for an assassination. So often arrogant confidence people lose long term when they pick a big fight with the wrong humble confident person. The humble confident conceals his strength and strikes hard with the right timing. Think David and Goliath.
All the masters of any trade end up humble confident. When you’ve mastered an art and can beat everyone, you have no need to brag or use words to instill fear. Your reputation precedes you. You only waste energy posturing and using arrogant confidence. Think about how masters of martial arts are always portrayed as humble confident and easily beat the arrogant confident, younger, stronger opponent with a single small blow to a weak spot.
But rarely do you become a master without some early arrogant confidence. If nothing else, the belief that you can become master against all odds and opponents is a sort of arrogant confidence of its own.
So subconsciously, people see is great potential in the arrogant confident. While seeing actualized greatness in humble confidence.
Women, especially young, attractive, middle class women LOVE to chase potential. So they date the med student. He’s deep in debt and makes nothing while working his ass off, but he has serious potential in the next decade. They want to have picked the rising star and ride the wave of hard times to get big rewards in the future. (Especially since they can’t attract the already established masters and their value will decrease quickly with time.)
While the attractive girl that comes from a wealthy, established upper class family will often chase the already established man 10, even 20 years her senior.
Arrogant confident will often get the panties wet(short term gain). But humble confident attracts the high SMV LTR(long term gain).
This is partly why Tomassi discusses men’s SMV only increasing with age. And generally, why men should marry in their mid thirties rather than earlier.
Ravenscar7 5y ago
I always found it hilarious how women always say that they hate cocky and arrogant guys haha.
resnine 5y ago
Actions not words.
Thotasaurus_Rex 5y ago
It only works on a subset of girls, usually quite young and immature. Which is the ideal demographic for easy lays. Being cocky is still 1000x better than being boring.
redaftrp 5y ago
Confidence, especially irrational confidence, is a primal turn on for women...
resnine 5y ago
Why does it have to be irrational confidence?
Project_Zero_Betas 5y ago
No there has to be some logic to it, otherwise they'll see through the charade to cover up insecurities.
RedLegendx 5y ago
I think it’s more confidence than cockiness.
FereallyRed 5y ago
Follow the leader.
Ansec 5y ago
Cocky = fun
But you'll only attract plates never LTRs.
flatox 5y ago
That basic sidebar knowledge mate.
throwawaytrpguy 5y ago
Can you please explain what is the balance like in detail? Right now I believe humility gives me peace of mind and also strength, and I fear if I become arrogant I will become weak, but I also understand that girls don't like humble, they like cocky - what's it really like?
resnine 5y ago
It's knowing you are the shit because realistically you are, the key is to act JUST A LITTLE MORE the shit than you actually are.
furcryingoutloud 5y ago
The balance should be above the six figures. Talk about real cocky then.
JosephBosa 5y ago
Basically i know im good looking, lift, have frame, have a high smv. So you need that confidence foundation first. But I never brag or put others down. This gives off a healthy confidence to the outside viewer. If you brag or peg people down then you are arrogant.
The cockiness is basically me not thinking, but believing im literally the hottest piece of shit around. This is never spoken verbally, ever. But i think it shines in my walk/gestures, my body language. Honestly my main cockiness comes from "i can get any girl i want" so its cockiness specifically towards women.
I think im "confident" in every category but "cocky" with regards to my confidence with women.
rus9384 5y ago
I think it is more about how the frame matches your looks. A crying bald bearded guy with a brutal face is as weird as a cocky short thinman with a cute face.
So, probably you found the frame that works for you.
TFWnoLTR 5y ago
I hear you're a decent edge rusher too.
resnine 5y ago
To want to bring down someone else just shows that you are below that person to begin with. It's rooted in insecurity.
Also, the cockiness part, It's just like St.Patrice said "It's not an attitude, it's a belief!" that's real confidence.
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It's that smirk, that facial expression, that calmness... that tone of voice. It's a lot of things. Most operating on some deep emotional level within the audience.
Project_Zero_Betas 5y ago
If you brag or peg people down, you're not really arrogant, you're insecure.
friendandadvisor 5y ago
Well, this may be so, but, the chicks and many males will not see this for insecurity. They will stare, agog, and wonder at the braggart's magnificent behavior.
byronshadow 5y ago
Think about them as cavewomen and it all makes sense. They're wired to go get knocked up by Cave Chad from the next valley over and then return to their family or Billy Beta Toolmaker for help with the kid*. No one's hunting mammoth anymore so they're always looking for signs of fitness. Similarly, their brain might register some lowlife criminal as a badass warlord with good genes. Civilizations tried to control this(EG with punishments for adultery and arranged marriages) for millennia but that's falling apart now.
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*Women become attracted to betas when pregnant(or her body thinks its pregnant). This is also one of the big side-effects of birth control no one talks about. A woman will start or stop birth control and suddenly want to get away from her man.
resnine 5y ago
You really think they operate so animalistically? This is a bit extreme, you make it sound like they don't have any free-will that they are enslaved by their impulses. Simply acting on some base-instinct level. Like when they see Chad, their mind goes "Must sumbit to him".
IvyExcess 5y ago
Um, yeah. A lot of them are exactly like this. I've been the beta and the chad. I've walked into a bar and in 15 minutes had a girl away from her date and sucking my dick behind the dumpster. A little alcohol and the right dude saying the right thing at the right time and it's literally a switch you can learn to flip.
resnine 5y ago
Can't say I've been the Chad per se. But I've been in situations where I did something DT or bold and had them all over me. So you think they aren't making judgements based on any sort of thinking, just impulses? I mean if that were true how do we have so many politicians and professors that are teachers, they aren't animalistic and just operating on primal instincts and impulses. They are thought-out, logical, and wise. Sure there are dumpster sluts but there are also STEM teachers, I think it goes both ways.
archaic-guy 5y ago
Becuase people guide themself by apparences and are impulsive as consecuence a lot of girls don´t check if the guy is an Alpha or an Ashole with a big mouth who cannot back his own words.
Also when you act cocky you are showcasing your security in the short term while being humble only works when you are already the Triple Alphalpha and people know your capabilities.
But all this doesnt matter becuase I have been called Cocky even when I was in my nice guy phase so my advise is to just stop caring about what the others say and just use your normal security aura.
resnine 5y ago
Girls don't respect humbleness at all, so true.
Rkingpin 5y ago
It's a sign of strong frame
The natural feminine state is submissive. They cant help but get curious about the alpha douche.
Project_Zero_Betas 5y ago
The correct answer.
Internet-Troll 5y ago
similar experience but humble never worked for me
Bigdoggg323 5y ago
Nah I don’t definitly have more success with the arrogance cockiness too. A girl will say something and I’ll reply with “cuz I can” and I can see her pants get soaked. Cocky arrogance all the way. The dudes will hate
resnine 5y ago
Cocky arrogance might seem like cokcy arrogance but really, underneath it is just pure confidence. It's the confidence they find sexy af. That boldness, that forwardness, that courage. It's all those things.
shrimpeye 5y ago
It only works for so long though. You need to be careful to not overdo it because it can go from an attractive trait to a simply annoying one, and the line between the two isn’t always clear. Try and not be too one sided about it
Bigdoggg323 5y ago
True true. Too Much arrogance will get old. But from the jump you gotta have a I’m the shit attitude
resnine 5y ago
Try-hardism is always a risk when starting out... like most things, it's all about balance.
mcr00sterdota 5y ago
Confidence is hot.
INNASKILLZ2K18 5y ago
Return of Kings.
It's just bluepill shit on a deeper level. 'Women want humble guys, nice guys, guys who put all their masculinity away and puts them first'. ABSOLUTE HORSESHIT.
Take the red pill, and see more and more the way things truly are. Women NEED to be led. They need a motherfucker who can face up to the world and say 'I'm the fuck'n shit'. Shows power, dominance, leadership.
This is where blue pill dudes get totally fucking lost. They BELIEVE it when the feminine imperative says 'we want humble nice guys'. It's so utterly fucking hard to get an AFC to see he needs to take all that focus off the bitch...and throw it onto themselves.
EARN the right to say you're a prize. Carry it like a badge of honour. RETURN OF KINGS...the way it should have always been.
resnine 5y ago
Yep, media is lying. It's this weird ideal form of a man she THINKS she wants but when they are confronted with it they aren't interested anymore. It's like those beta boybands or K-pop bands where lots of teen girls act like they want them so badly but I gurantee if they met them got to know the guys they would be repulsed. I think it has something to do with their motherly nuturing nature, caretakers and such so they pretend they like boys but they really want men. They crave leadership, direction, and dominance. But pretend they hate it, you just gotta break through that force-field front and you begin to see their true colors.
INNASKILLZ2K18 5y ago
Yep. Really, this is all basic Red Pill 101 stuff. It is interesting to take a step back every now and then, though, and just see the complete and utter bullshit they've tried to feed society on mass.
It's so simple, but at the same time the feminine imperative did an amazing job fooling everyone.
The thing is, most beta boys and late bloomers had zero success with women when young/highschool. They never got a taste of their real nature.
Of course, everyone wants women. Women (feminism) say they want a particular guy, and hate the other guy. Naturally poor betas are going to think 'oh man, well if she's saying that, better follow it'.
There hasn't been much greater illusion pulled on a mass scale.
resnine 5y ago
I would actually say I am taking control of my masculinity, actually exploring it. For most of my life I never put any thought into it. Felt women and men are exactly the same. Masculinity was just a word to me.... not any more, it's extremely important. What's so bad is the state of society which shames masculinity and acts like it's a bad thing, and that femininity is the most perfect beautiful thing ever. Both are good and bad, but clearly one is getting better pr.
INNASKILLZ2K18 5y ago
You're exactly right. The bad thing is, how much of this 'toxic masculinity' talk is fueled by a feminine imperative. Once you see it, you notice that pretty much any man coming out and talking pro masculinity is shamed.
The deeper you go, the deeper you see how a lot of the narrative has effected behavior and beliefs on a core level. It can take a long time for the pill to truly ingest.
billybetasnan 5y ago
If you're good looking, you can get away with most things lol.
resnine 5y ago
Yep, that's the Halo Effect.
MarioBuzo 5y ago
Read the Sidebar
Imperator_Red 5y ago
It all comes back to biology. A woman is basically a baby making machine and men can impregnate many women at the same time. When he looks at a woman, a man can very easily see most of the things that matter from an evolutionary perspective within a few seconds. Basically - is she hot? Does she have a symmetrical face? Is she physically fit? Does she have the right curves which indicate that she will be more likely to have a successful pregnancy.
When a woman looks at a man, however, she does not necessarily know everything that she needs to know for sexual attraction. Yes looks matter. But men are the "doers" of the tribe. They hunt, they fight, they get shit done. The more skilled they are, the higher their status among other men is. Status among other men indicates high reproductive fitness for men. So a woman needs to tease this information out. In a big impersonal city, she does not know his status. If he comes off as cocky/arrogant though, this is a major clue for her that he is a high status male and thus has good genes.
resnine 5y ago
Let's be honest looks do matter a lot to them like Height, Build, Shoulder width, Hair... all signs of strength and health. So better genes. But then it's like, "Ok, what else does he got?" that's when all the skills and traits are weighed out against his physical stature.
zxcvb7809 5y ago
I think it is because not giving a fuck about things that don't matter is probably closely linked to 1) over all life happiness and 2) mental fortitude. Both qualities that are preferential in offspring and attractive to women.
The reason I say not giving a fuck about things that don't matter is because a person that is confident as hell or is overly cocky, is either unaware of all that they don't know or they have assessed the information and determined that it is not within their control so it doesn't matter. Both situations are sexually appealing to women as both have leader/in charge type qualities.
resnine 5y ago
yeah there is definately a "I only have so many fucks to give so I choose them wisely" thing going on there.
Bigdoggg323 5y ago
I had a friend tell a girl one time “I’d hit it if I was fucked up”. She wouldn’t shut the fuck about him the rest of the night. He says shit “cuz I’m a fuckin boss”. “I lay it down like a real playa”. “ gotta always keep a few bitties on the practice squad”. Idk if he’s red pilled or not but he sure as hell acts like it. And EVERY girl wanted to fuck him. Dudes would get pissed though.
mrHappyPotatoe 5y ago
Because they are scysophrenics.
Mobile_Pepper 5y ago
if you’re the loudest guy in the room, you’re going to get all the attention
MCA_T 5y ago
sounds like something a cardi b fan would say
Project_Zero_Betas 5y ago
OKAY!
Mobile_Pepper 5y ago
-said the Bill Cosby fan
JosephBosa 5y ago
Cocky is more in the mannerisms/body language/mindset i feel like. Im not verbally the loudest guy or bragging.
zav25 5y ago
I agree. Usually, the loudest in the room is the one trying too hard, that's the biggest sign of fake confidence.
resnine 5y ago
That may or may not be true.
Plently of dudes are loud and proud and full of high self-esteem. Hard to imagine a guy roaring and being loud actually being insecure. I know what you mean sorta, but I think it's often the case that the person is actually confident and it's our shy/humble BP selves wanting to believe the whole "Oh he's insecure, it's FAKE confidence"
uptimex 5y ago
I get the same result demonstrating non-confidence, shimmering low voice, almost every girl in the room turn interest to me, because I seem different. But later when you are talking with some girl already, you have to look directly into her eyes, with a relaxed attitude. When you are cocky, you belong to everyone, when you are non-confident, you are only hers.