My SO has been very unhappy with himself and his progression professionally. He's getting progressively more responsibility and pay, certainly enough for what I'd hope from him, but not nearly enough by his own standards/timeline.
He's talked a lot with male friends about his frustrations but seems to turn inwards and spiral into depression around me. He doesn't want to talk much and what I have said (that I think he's capable and respectable and that I admire his ambition) seems to have made things worse...
How can I best support him?
We usually talk on the phone for a little bit before bed and see each other on most weekends.

Newworldtaco 4y ago
Valuetainment on you tube Patrick bet David is great when it comes to business advice
weirdfish42 4y ago
Male perspective: I just went through this. In the three years since I met my GF I went from the lowest point in my career, to the highest.
The night we met I'd just run my small business into the ground, and was living of what savings I had.
After hearing my story, she'd said to herself "He is either full of shit, or great at what he does, I want to see where this goes".
Along the way we lived in basically poverty, I worked back breaking physical labor, and turned down what seemed like an amazing opportunity because they low balled me on salary, one of the hardest things I've ever had to do.
She was fantastic at every step. Never once did she question my decisions, complain about our living conditions, or tell me I had to give up on my goals.
Even when it was a can of soup on a hot plate, she presented our meals like it was a fine dining experience. She kept the house nice, managed the bills and did everything she could to take the rest of the worlds problems out of my view, so that I could focus on rebuilding my career.
When the opportunity did show up, I was ready. I knew I could jump both feet and not worry at all that I had her support.
I landed my dream job the same week we went into quarantine.
I spent over a year doing a whole lot of things that were not my job, filling in for the company in shipping / recieving, doing low level tech support, and other "odd jobs", "Don't worry, we want you for what you do, but right now you have to be a team player and do x/y/z." It was very difficult mentally. I knew what skills I had, but I wasn't using them, and felt that I was wasting my time, wasn't advancing, and spent over a year on a 3 month temp contract.
She listened, to hour after hour of technical jargon as I planned what I would do when they finally took me off the leash. She encouraged me to relax, making me sit and play a video game while she cleaned the house, made dinner, and handled any shopping.
My entire upbringing had trained me that if I was idle while she did something made me a loser. She forced me to spend my down time relaxing and recharging for when I needed to act.
When I was depressed, she would chase me out of the house to go ride my motorcycle or get excercise.
Never at any point did I feel less of a man because of the situation. She believed in me, my ability, and my goals. While she doesn't understand the technical elements of my work, she listened everytime I had an idea, and would ask questions not so much for the answer, but to just let me sound board off her and run in a new direction.
When the day finally came that I got to do what I do, I was ready. I did in hours what the prior guy couldn't do in months. I was relaxed, I was in shape, and I knew I had her support.
I know the frustration of not being on your personal timeline, feeling like you aren't advancing, or that opportunities are being missed. You can't help with any of that, nor should you.
You are that other part of his life, the one he does all that shit for. That's not true, he does that shit for him, but I promise he wants to come running home and share it with you when it happens.
Make sure the parts of his life that are about you are good, to the point that he doesn't have to worry about it. Don't split his focus. He has his friends, he has his personal activities, he has his own venting mechanisms.
You are his partner and his goal. Listen, but don't pressure. Encourage but don't lie or exaggerate. Be happy with where things are, but also be excited about what more is possible.
When we got our small shit place, we made it our own, but immediately started talking about what the next place would be like.
We moved last month out of the shit place, and set up at our new home, which we love.
We are already talking about what we want in the next place.
Set short term achievements, and let him succeed in them. Celebrate those. Simply shit like "Honey, I miss having a couch so we can sit together and watch a show". Moving the couch in and setting up our living room this week was a high point in my life. Sure we got it from let go, but it's nice, a full recliner, exactly what we dreamed of all those nights sitting separately in our crappy chairs. First thing she did was jump in my lap and just lay there holding each other for 20 minutes.
I don't know if any of this helps your situation, but I know that these things have greatly helped me. At no point do I expect her to be knowledgeable in the details of my career, she isnt there to guide my decisions or judge my progress. She knows me plenty well to see when I am either frustrated or excited, and she either supports me, or we celebrate.
Straight-Quality518 4y ago
Dude thank you for shining a light on the fact that you're HUMAN!!! I think at least half of the relationship issue subreddits and websites would disappear if we as Men were allowed to be, viewed and treated as thinking, breathing and feeling humans. Though this is a "red pill" section of the internet, it still wreaks of unrealistic expectations for a Man to achieve and maintain.
Thank you and may God continue to bless and support you and your Woman.
Bugu4787 4y ago
Seems like you found a unicorn. Congrats and best wishes.
sunnyleaf9 4y ago
Your GF sounds lovely and your story is really inspiring. I really wish I still lived with him so I could do more for him without words.
weirdfish42 4y ago
Don't underestimate the value of words. There were large stretches of time in there when we lived on opposite sides of the country, including a month and a half while I had covid, and our daily video calls and texts were invaluable.
Remember, he is competing with himself most likely. It's normal and healthy to push yourself and often feel you want to do / achieve more. It sure is what drives me.
Unless it becomes a chronic situation, just chalk it up to him being ambitious.
HumanSockPuppet 4y ago
An extra big helping of love and appreciation is in order.
Keep on showing your appreciation for everything that he does, but make some gestures above and beyond every so often. As his stress levels increase, so should your stress reduction efforts.
Make no mention of his new work and responsibility. Just make him feel like you're noticing his increased efforts by increasing your own efforts. Men reciprocate effort with effort.
Eventually, it should click with him that you really are appreciative of everything he's enduring. That will bolster his resolve and his certainty in his efforts.
sunnyleaf9 4y ago
Thank you so much for your reply. I will definitely do that.
What would you suggest I do if he starts a conversation about his career, but then it just turns into depression/hopelessness?
HumanSockPuppet 4y ago
If he starts the conversation, listen to him intently. If he's speaking to you about it, then it's because he feels you're the only one he can talk to. Don't remark on or judge anything he says unless he asks specifically for your input. At the end, let him know that you appreciate everything that he's doing, that you love him for it, and that you know he'll make the best decision he can for the two of you. Showing your faith in his leadership is the best way to be his biggest cheerleader.
Also, you can let him know that if there's anything you can do to make his time at home more relaxing, you'll do it. All he has to do is tell you.
01000101010001010 4y ago
Male perspective here: You cannot do much. Many women live under the illusion, that they can provide everything for a man, because they are proud of their nurturing side.
One thing that would be a good thing, but the name of it might annoy him, is therapy, because it still is an admittance of a fault (I know...)
A trick I´ve learned is, that you should call it coaching. Performance Coaching or business coaching by somebody who knows professional settings. Like a business coach who was once a therapist or still is and does business coaching as a side.
sunnyleaf9 4y ago
Thank you for the advice. I can try but I'm not sure if he'll go for it.
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pearlsandstilettos 4y ago
Do not come to rpw to snark about women. Removed.
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sunnyleaf9 4y ago
Lol I have heard of assertive encouragement before and he has actually said that helps him. I'll try to remember that.