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emilyjane321

Posted 4y ago in Uncategorized - Permalink - Locked - 529 Views

Hi everyone! I am just wondering if anyone here has gone through the process of weight loss and if so how it affected how you were treated by both men and women after your weight loss compared to before? People sometimes talk about "pretty privilege" and I am just curious to see if anyone here has ever experienced it? As a 5'5 woman who weighs 180lb (bmi 29.9), how much would my smv increase if I were to lose weight? I have been told that I have a pretty face but will the dating scene and my life vastly improve if I were to lose 40-50lb? Many thanks for all your help!

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okayleilaa 4y ago

I lost around 40 pounds during quarantine and wow. The way I was treated by men AND women was astronomically different. I had a lot of guys still going for me even when I was overweight but I was constantly being flirted with and had men chasing me when I became thin and started working out. They open doors for you, don’t stop staring, figure out any way to talk to u and go out their way to please you.

I’m not saying any of this is good or bad. I’m just saying people like pretty people. It’s natural. I was still respected regardless though by people even when I was a bit chubby

Kleanecks 4y ago

As a male, I would like to say this in the least rude way but to us - a fat man and woman are basically the same. After a certain BMI, the gender doesn’t matter.

I was obese myself and lost 55 pounds through calorie counting after finding my TDEE aka maintenance calories on online calculators. I lost 2 pounds a week after I reduced like 800 calories from my maintenance calories and did some exercise at the gym.

I measure my food with a scale and track everything into MyFitnessPal.

Amongtheruins88 4y ago

It will make an incredible difference. Let me know if you want any tips on losing the weight. I gained a ton of weight when I was struggling with alcoholism and depression, but I got sober and started working out and dieting and lost 64 pounds. I’ve got the weight cut down to a science now. You can completely transform yourself in 6 months to a year. Even just 3 months can give you amazing results

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Amongtheruins88 4y ago

I got you

Amongtheruins88 4y ago

First off, do you have access to a gym or are you planning on losing weight through dieting alone?

dadudenines 4y ago

Warning: Male comment.

BMI is huge. Lets take some actual before and after case studies as examples:

Getting your BMI below 25 will basically get you the easiest SMV gains. Once you master that, you will be able to just implement the rest of the red pill easily. Physical discipine for women is the primer for success. Or you can live the pretty little lies: https://www.self.com/story/body-positive-home-workouts

throwawayisathing 4y ago

These are great examples! It makes a huge difference, and yes it will improve your dating life drastically

emilyjane321 4y ago

Wow those are amazing transformations! From a male perspective what is considered the ideal bmi for a woman?

golden_eyed_cat 4y ago

I think it depends on the man's type, as well as a woman's skeletal structure and where she stores fat! For instance, if she tends to gain weight around her waist, it might be better for her to stay on the lower end of the healthy weight range, whereas, if she has naturaly wider hips, staying in the middle (or perhaps on the slightly higher end) may be a good idea.

dadudenines 4y ago

Standards from surveys I have read over time:

Women: BMI 20, 20% body fat

Men: BMI 25-26, 12-15% body fat

In either case, only 5% or less of people ever achieve those numbers. To provide some perspective:

For example, only 5% of men are even below 17% body fat, which when you take into account the high BMI is actually very hard to maintain yet a lot of women would consider it a typical physique on men in media and maybe even online dating ironically. Likely without much muscle definition.

Marilyn Monroe had a BMI of ~20-23, according to records and supposedly had her own weight lifting set. Yet women themselves would consider her curvy. However, she would be a size 0 today.

xSheo_ 4y ago

Depends on what man you ask. The fitter he is, the more he wants his girl to be in a fit range as well (120 - 140lbs) the more overweight he is himself, the less he cares about looks or health obviously.

Flypaste 4y ago

I'm a man, 5'11" and 130 lbs. So I'm only bone and muscle. I love the sexual dimorphism of phat tits and a dumptruck ass, and usually her BMI is going to need to be a bit higher for that. If I wanted to have sex with women that feel like twinks then I'd just skip the extra step and have sex with twinks. So it isn't as clearcut as "heavier men like heavier women".

It's more that men who put effort into their appearance want women that put effort into their appearance. Whatever his tastes may be - for a woman to meet my tastes she needs to pay attention to her weight and exercise (how else are you going to keep those assets from sagging?) just as much as a woman trying to be very skinny would, the weight target is just different.

The issue is just that if she's got unlucky genetics and all her weight goes to her belly and neck/face, then she's better off being skinny. I think this is something that all men who like thick women can agree on. Some women just can't carry weight in an attractive manner.

It's also worth considering that in most countries, the "women who try to minimize their weight" and "women who put effort into being attractive" venn diagram looks like a circle. So it's easy to forget that women who want to be on the thicker side and do it attractively and purposefully can and do exist.

titlejunk 4y ago

I love that all these examples came from intermittent fasting. It’s so easy and it works!

Kleanecks 4y ago

Fasting itself isn’t anything special.

It is the fact that these people ate fewer calories over all that led to the weight loss.

It has been established in studies that fasting vs non-fasting weight loss is the same as long as you are eating at a calorie deficit. In fact, fasting is not ideal for people trying to build muscle.

titlejunk 4y ago

I’m not sure if you are up to date on the latest science.

The books The Obesity Code and Lifespan both discuss fasting as a way to overcome insulin resistance and optimize body hormone levels for weight loss and cellular longevity.

Calories in/calories out is old news.

growingstronk 4y ago

You’re talking about fasting as it pertains to health, not weight loss

Sure faster is healthier and will provide a longer lifespan, but for weight loss purposes specifically it’s not necessary

Kleanecks 4y ago

These scammers just want to sell their own books.

Studies have been done and they all say that insulin is not a player in weight loss.

Saying that calories are old news is honestly the most absurd thing I have heard today. You can’t lose weight without eating fewer calories than you burn.

I have done it the same way. Just because you are fasting doesn’t mean you can eat whatever quantity you want because your insulin is acting in another way or some made up jargon.

It is you who isn’t updated, books are not the same as scientific studies.

dadudenines 4y ago

Yeah, it just shows for the most part people eat too much and too often. Fairly easy fix for men and women.

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emilyjane321 4y ago

Thats so motivating! Thank you so much you've given me renewed hope! I hope you don't mind me asking but how much weight did you lose for you to experience this?

Jenneapolis 4y ago

Over the past three years, I have gained and lost. I have been as high as 172 and as low as 138 at 5’6”; currently I’m at 150.

Honestly I was able to attract men at all the weights and had a couple people I dated when I was more fit that wanted me to be a little more plump. I think it really depends on the guy. Being smaller and fitter probably gives you more options. The biggest impact for me is being smaller gives me more confidence in dating and that alone is the best benefit. But be careful thinking that losing weight means your dating problems will be solved because they are not - we will go through the same challenges.

aussiedollface2 4y ago

Yes. The most attention I got was when my BMI was around 18 xo

SnooGadgets3658 4y ago

I don’t like using bmi because depending on you body composition , muscle development and height it can be very inaccurate. I prefer to look at body fat % and easiest way is to google example pictures and charts of other peoples fat % , what it looks like on various people this will give you close estimate. For women I believe 20-25 % body fat is most attractive and still looks healthy. This will give you a bikini body , curvy but not too skinny where your a stick . I prefer some muscle development from exercise, or lightly toned , healthy and in good shape. But not “body builder “ look .

BillunNuuhqija 4y ago

But not “body builder “ look .

Women always say some version of this but building muscle is a 6 days a week venture that takes a tremendous amount of energy to achieve. And on top of that as a woman for you building muscle is more limited because of low T levels. So there is no way to get to body builder look but devoting an incredible amount of time and effort to it.

SunshineSundress 4y ago

Even if you won’t look like a female body builder, you will still bulk up. Plenty of my gym-rat girlfriends, who dedicate more time than the average woman at the gym but nowhere near enough time to become body builders, still have large, defined quads and noticeable upper-body definition. It’s still a gorgeous look that men are into, but it may not be what your man is into or the physique that you want.

I really like this Bret Contreras post on attaining a slender look. They should still weight train, but for their desired results, they should go about it in a slightly different way. For women who want this type of body, they should focus less on progressive overload, compound lifts like squats, deadlifts, and lunges, and potentially bulking ab training. Instead, they should focus more on glute isolation, more variety, and a bigger focus on nutrition.

BillunNuuhqija 4y ago

Weight is important but the end goal needs to be healthy living. That would include eating food you actually want to eat that is also healthy. Which is something you have to learn to cook. Losing fat can be quite miserable and maintaining a bodyweight and losing it are two different diets. Meaning eating whatever your maintenance calories are you will just remain at your bodyweight whether it's low or high. So getting there is more difficult than maintaining it.

My ideal woman would be outlines of abs under a layer of fat. I have no idea bodyfat that is and BMI depends on your body.

But yes looking healthy because you eat right along with not being fat will tremendously improve your SMV. I do often look at beautiful face fat chicks and think they would be highly attractive if they weren't fat. Some men are into obese and fat women but that is a small minority and not really a viable dating strategy.