I'm not sure where to begin and I'm quite embarrassed to be talking about this issue online as I feel it's quite personal between myself and my husband. I hate airing dirty laundry out of respect for my husband and our marriage. However, I am truly at a loss and hoping I can receive honest but not to harsh answers.
I don't believe pornography is acceptable in a marriage. I feel when my husband watches it it implies I am not sexy, desired, and enough for him and basically a form of infidelity. He tells me he likes to watch it and masterbate to it but says it is unrelated to me. That me and porn are two separate things. He has cut down how much he watches to one day a month. He keeps track of the days and we talk about it during couples therapy. However, I feel I am being betrayed every time he chooses pornography over videos of me to do his thing. We have a very active sex life that I could not complain about. I wish we had more but life happens and I have quite a high sex drive for a woman.
Am I being too sensitive? Is pornography healthy in a marriage and how is it healthy? What does it mean when my husband chooses to watch porn over me? Does he find me less attractive, am I not enough for him? How do I accept this behavior for the rest of my life and not feel so betrayed and to trust him?
Thank you in advance. I'm so ashamed to ask this question but I'm truly trying to make sense of this and be on his side but my core is telling me he's betraying me. Perhaps someone can make this make sense for me and open my eyes and heart to his side of things.

TakeTheVeilCerpin 3y ago
Male perspective here,
Don’t nag or shame him. You’ll only make it worse.
Even-Conclusion597 3y ago
Male perspective here and never married (I’m only 24) but to answer your question. You have every right to feel how you feel that’s fine, talk to your husband about it cool. However, porn to us men is just that. We don’t think of porn all day it’s more of an impulse type of behavior. I’ve watched lorn numerous times while in relationships though they never worked out but porn was never an issue. It’s honestly how we are built, we like variety and porn is just a fantasy. There’s no connection to the girl on screen whatsoever. This may be wrong to say and I won’t speak for all men but I can for me and my friends since we discuss this before. No matter how much we have sex with you, it’s never enough. Also I wouldn’t call it cheating because he’s still with you and not physically meeting with another woman to have sex. I think you’re going about it the right way with your communication. I wouldn’t worry bout it too much.
warm20 3y ago
porn desensitizes you and makes you expect things that are not from your unique own connection which ruins longterm sex robbing you of greater experiences and satisfaction in that part of sex life
better to detox and be more realistic, no one is good at sex from the first get go, it takes practice and it gets better overtime as you both communicate through it
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Sir_Distic 3y ago
To men, porn is a fantasy. Nothing more. You cannot fulfil the role of porn. Even if you did anything he wanted sexually he'd still find some porn he likes that doesn't include you. It's NOT about you. It's about an unobtainable fantasy.
Don't stress. Porn is not real life. It's not an indictment of you. It's not personal for him. It's not a way of saying you're not good enough.
Pushing him to stop or lessen it will only lead to resentment. It becomes an issue when he constantly chooses porn over sex with you. But if he's able to give you both a good sex life and watch porn then it's not an issue.
BroadRod 3y ago
Its not about you. There is a part of his brain wired to inseminate as many women as possible. It is an exercise of this urge, and it would be there no matter how you look of "perform" in the bedroom.
aussiedollface2 3y ago
If you try “ban” your husband from porn I think most modern men will just look at it behind your back. We need to pick our battles and honestly this is one my husband and I just don’t discuss xo
UrFriendlySuccubus 3y ago
I think it’s important to note that porn is not act nor there is emotion from him involved in it so technically this is not cheating (or so I think). There are different reasons on why he’s watching porn and depending on that I guess it’s what could determine whether it is okay or not.
rosesonthefloor 3y ago
It’s completely fine for you to not want porn in your marriage, and it’s a completely fine request to ask your husband to stop watching. It’s absolutely a conversation the two of you should have had before marriage, in terms of each of your expectations around it.
However, ultimately, you cannot control him. If he’s still going to watch porn, then you need to figure out how you can change to adjust to the situation.
“Doing it yourself” and having to put the work in to satisfy a partner are two different things - especially for men, sometimes it’s necessary. However it doesn’t mean that he’s not attracted to you - he wouldn’t contribute to have sex with you if he wasn’t. Porn is produced specifically to help with this, so of course it’s a desirable tool to speed things along.
If he assures you that it’s a different thing entirely, and he’s not actually cheating on you with another person, is this something you could eventually find your way to accepting? And, if not, what will you do if you cannot accept it?
Marriage counseling is a great step. Think through your options and possible outcomes and really decide what’s more important to you: your marriage, or your husband not watching porn?
Thro_e-_wa 3y ago
Male perspective here. Ask what specifically he likes about porn. I think a lot of women would be surprised that most men don't watch porn because of hot women but because it's hot women lustfully doing things they're into. The sex might be great for you but it could be just okay or good for him. I'm not trying to make you feel guilty or like you are not enough. But rather get you to have a truly exploratory conversation with him where you aren't judgemental. It's easy to say why doesn't he see it my way, but while you're doing that you're dismissing his feelings. Good luck
emmalai85 3y ago
It's not for us.
We don't participate in that behavior. I don't think it's wrong for every relationship but I wouldn't like it in mine.
HoneydewFlashy7858 3y ago
I believe your situation must be quite rare. Perhaps, I'm wrong and it's more common than I think.
Empyrean_Truth 3y ago
I don't believe in restricting anyone elses freedoms; but I believe in respecting someone elses boundaries.
I've never felt the desire to watch porn other than when my partner has been away on business. Some women aren't comfy with it; and if it's a committed relationship, that needs to have some weight. If he is entirely disregarding your stance there, that's a red flag to me, as a sign he doesn't respect what you are comfy with.
But, when my partner is here, I'm really just preferring them instead.
emmalai85 3y ago
It's a conversation you should have up front.
My husband and I have watched anime/Hentai when we first got married, but cartoon shows with adult content isn't the same as live action porn. We haven't in a dozen plus years, and I skip the sex scenes in most regular movies and shows too.
I don't have an ethical problem with it, but we both would rather think about, watch, talk, touch the other person.
There's not much I'm unwilling to do between us either, so when he can customize it to his mood and liking, porn is lacking. He likes being in control of sex, porn doesn't really give him the ability to do that.
I'm not morally bothered by it, I just don't find it exciting.
HoneydewFlashy7858 3y ago
Thank you for your honest response and sharing me your personal experience.
LadySandcastle 3y ago
My husband chose to stop watching it when we began dating exclusively. I didn't ask him to stop but I may have mentioned I didn't like it but he told me he stopped as he found it disrespectful to me.
Your husband sounds like he could be addicted to it. There are so many potential issues that can stem from porn addiction. If you have a healthy sex life he's obviously still very attracted to you. The objectification that comes from watching porn would be my issue. I think it's really his problem to solve. He knows how it makes you feel so I don't think there is anything else that can be said to make him stop, he has to start wanting to.
HomeHornet 3y ago
I don't think there is a single answer to this question. I will give you my 2 cents. Porn can, indeed, be very detrimental. I was addicted to it for a long time, and have recently completely stopped (8 months clean). It has done tremendous damage to myself and my partner. In reality, however, it has only exacerbated the addict mind behavior, and is not the root cause of the problems. It makes self esteem, sexuality issues worse, but it did not cause them, in my instance.
I think there are 2 issues here. One is whether his consumption of porn impacts him, his character, his thoughts, his behaviors towards you, etc. and second - your feelings of insecurity and undesirablity. You need to analyze both separately. He could be the most graceful and loving towards you, and you would still feel betrayed by it, and that is valid. Any feeling you have is valid, and should be taken into account by your husband. However, that does not absolve us from looking at our own feelings and trying to do extend the same grace to our partner. It seems like he is acknowledging and validating your feelings? Does he truly understand how you feel? He has cut it down to once a month - hard to believe, but if it's really true, then it's a very meaningful sign that he respects you feelings. It is worth exploring why you feel so much shame surrounding the issue and why you feel so undesirable.
I can tell you from my experience that in the male brain, we can compartmentalize porn and sex very well. However, therein lies the root of the problem. If we separate it too much from the emotions, we disconnect it from the whole human, and it's a very immature and superficial way of connecting. I did not have this wisdom at 20 or 30 years old, so perhaps it also comes with age, and the natural decrease in testosterone. All I know is that before my D-day, I used to look at women in real life and would notice the good looking ones and the ones I wasn't attracted to, and mentally classify in: "I would never have sex with that" or "she'd be so sexy in lingerie". Now I see every woman as neither super hot nor super ugly. I just see women, and none truly peaks my interest in an infatuation kind of way, nor do I think of the "ugly" ones that they are ugly. They are just women, and I can equally imagine myself having or not having a sexual relationship with them, but it depends on the PERSON, the whole person. Physical traits are much much less important. I may be roasted for these comments, as they are crude, but I do think all men have these passing thoughts - they are biologically wired. I am, however, highlighting it, because it shows a change in the brain in 8 months of not watching porn. That being said, I don't think 1x month does anything as bad to the brain like I had (1x day).
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breadcake5245 3y ago
Porn is not acceptable in a marriage, or ever. Porn has tons of horrible effects on the brain, relationships, and in society (contributes to rape, violence, human trafficking, child trafficking, etc). It’s absolutely toxic, no one should consume it. Just have sex with your spouse. If they need to masturbate, they can use their imagination.
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Anonymous_fiend 3y ago
Look up the studies that show how it effects marriages and the brain. It's linked to lower martial satisfaction rates. No it's not healthy at all. Even in single men it causes problems. Not to be a conspiracy theorist but it quite odd how these studies aren't mainstream/only talked about in academic circles. Research papers are often open for the public to read so I feel like it's being suppressed.
I discussed with my fiance before we were official that I wouldn't tolerate porn and why. He's been completely on board since day 1. We have each other's passwords so I could check whenever. Incognito doesn't delete everything if you know where to look. But I don't want a relationship like that. I want someone who doesn't on their own accord not just to make me happy/not cause a fight.
From a religious view it's immodest and sexually impure. Men aren't supposed to objectify women like that. Modesty is not only how you dress it's how you act, what you see, and what you talk about too.
And the porn industry is predatory. Sex trafficking, coercion, and changing the script/rape is rampant. Men who sexually get off to videos like this are enabling and normalizing this.
It's reasonable to feel betrayed because you are. You set a boundary of what is and isn't cheating so to you it's cheating. And he knows that. He's not taking your feelings into consideration. His lust is shouldnt come before your emotional security. He's damaging the emotional intimacy of sex and your marriage. That doesn't mean he doesn't find you attractive though. Or that you're not enough. It's more of his issue vs anything you did wrong. Is there something in particular he's watching? Or a certain reason? Maybe he can find a way to fulfill that in the relationship.
LightOverWater 3y ago
But which came first? The porn or the low marital satisfaction?
Anonymous_fiend 3y ago
Well if it started when dating or before it's probably the porn. If a porn habit started in marriage then it's probably an unhealthy way to cope with not being satisfied.
LightOverWater 3y ago
There's definitely an inverse relationship. My personal experience and nearly all relationships I know of work like so:
From people I know, in 1/10 cases porn was the problem, but the guy had a serious addiction going in (multiple times per day) and couldn't get it up anymore. In 9/10 cases it's the relationship satisfaction driving the porn use.
Anonymous_fiend 3y ago
The younger millennials and gen z often are addicted to it (from a kid/teen) even with a healthy sex life. What once was rare is unfortunately being more common. It's a growing problem. But overall yeah they're inversely correlated. Although maybe some of the dissatisfaction is after their wives being hurt/upset when they find out. Aka porn causes problems which causes lack of sex which cause more porn which causes more problems.
LateralThinker13 3y ago
I see it as in part an extension of the screens addiction so many have these days. The prevalence of screens just makes porn addiction so much easier to occur - and to feed.
HoneydewFlashy7858 3y ago
Please forgive me, but I feel all the women saying their men don't watch porn are being niave or you are the few and far between lucky ones.
Ok_Obligation_6110 3y ago
Idk that this is true, this sub is full of a bunch of women in traditional relationships and might be with religious men. My husband used to watch but stopped on his own without my asking before we got married because he ‘didn’t feel it was right anymore’. These men aren’t necessarily outliers. I never had a problem with him watching it but I think it’s nice he decided on his own to stop.
aussiedollface2 3y ago
Agreed! Of course men look at it. On their smart phones or whatever.
LadySandcastle 3y ago
The only time I'm not with my husband is when he is at work. Considering it's a government contracted job that tracks everything done on the system I'd assume he'd have faced employment issues if he were doing it then lol.
You asked us if our men watched porn..the answer was no. You can't just brush off other people's experiences because they don't match your own.
HoneydewFlashy7858 3y ago
I did not ask if your men watched porn. I asked about people's thoughts on it and how it could be right or wrong and other opinions on similar the topic
LadySandcastle 3y ago
I classify that under the umbrella on what's your opinion on x lol. Semantics.
LateralThinker13 3y ago
More men don't have a use for it than you might think. For example, look at the men who practice/preach NoFap (no masturbation). It's a trend that honestly helps a subset of men with such things.
Personally I have almost no use for it. Most porn is low value women (regardless of how physically "hot" they are) degrading and devaluing themselves. It's not erotic to me, it's just pathetic and mildly revolting... and I'm not an old fuddy-duddy, either. I get why it works on all the thirsty men, but... honestly, thirsty men aren't men with options, and thus they aren't - by definition - high value, either.
Advanced_Bar_673 3y ago
What are your thoughts in utilizing it within an LTR? Married men may still have options if they wanted to cheat but if they don't, and the couple can't negotiate consensual non-monogamy, is porn use still frowned upon?
LateralThinker13 3y ago
It depends.
No really, not trying to cop out here. Porn, like anything else, can be addicting, can be abused, and can be enjoyed in moderation.
Personally, I don't view it as infringing upon a relationship so long as it doesn't interfere with my partner's relationship to me. For some, porn can enhance their sex life, such as when used to roleplay or spice things up or add stimuli. For others, it's a crutch that is turned to when one partner does not meet the others' needs.
In the latter case, it's not healthy, it's a coping mechanism.
It depends, but in most situations where a man needs sex, and his partner cannot (or worse, will not) provide it, and he's not given leave to practice consensual non-monogamy, then porn's pretty much the only option left. But the problem in that situation is that the man's partner is neglecting his needs and forcing him to find ways to satisfy them via less desirable methods rather than with her. Solving that equation means fixing the problem; asking 'if porn's okay' isn't.
LateralThinker13 3y ago
Should a steak be jealous that its eater occasionally likes to look at (but not eat) a casserole?
It can be healthy. If it satisfies the urge for broadcast procreation without a) him cheating and b) he still is healthily sexually active with you, then what's the beef?
It means you are not the focus of all his sexual energies every minute of the day. It also means you want to be, up to the point of controlling his harmless fantasies. You want to exclusively dominate his sexuality.
You already know the answer to that. He would not have married you, and would not continue to sex you, if he did not.
You did say he's not actually stepping out, so I'd assume you are enough for him for actual sex.
By working on your insecurity and self-centeredness (which reinforce one another, sadly). So long as he provides for your sexual needs and doesn't cheat on you, why do you care so much? Are you jealous of him looking at women when you walk down the street? Want him to wear blinders so he can only see the path in front of him, plus you?
It'd be one thing if he was neglecting you.
Finally, on a separate but related note:
That's YOUR interpretation. I could feel like my wife wishes I was an octopus whenever she eats a tuna fish sandwich, but that doesn't make my feelings valid.
Ever think that men in general, and your husband in particular, might actually be wired that way? Men and women are neurologically different. Also, do you think he's lying to you? If yes, you have bigger problems. If not, then you need to actually listen to what he's saying more, and to your insecurity less.
HoneydewFlashy7858 3y ago
I really appreciate your response and taking the time for this. Insightful and honest. Thank you
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Advanced_Bar_673 3y ago
I'm a woman, I like to watch porn with and without my bf, and I think it's a healthy and fun thing to do that can enhance a couple's sex life.
Men are visual, and in my opinion watching porn is an outlet that can channel the male urge for sexual variety in a way that doesn't jeopardize sexual exclusivity within a relationship. I mean, I'd much prefer THAT to a man wanting an open relationship or hall pass or hiring an escort or hanging out at the local strip club or cheating with a girl off Tinder.
(Note: I WISH X 10000 my man only wanted to watch porn vs having a hall pass. You're lucky! Us women seem to love to share everything, except our man. Haha)
Yes porn can become problematic if taken to the extreme, same as alcohol, food, work, shopping, gambling, etc but as long as he still madly desires you, and you have an active and fulfilling sex life, then I see nothing wrong with his behaviour.
Truly, what is "monogamy" now? Is it physical, mental, emotional? A huge element to human sexuality is our brain: are you not "monogamous" or is your husband "not good enough" if YOU briefly imagine you're making love to a hot firefighter or pool boy or Leo DiCaprio or a female supermodel while you're actually in bed with your husband? Have you ever fantasized about a co-worker or former flame?
If his actions all indicate he is loyal and true to whatever sexual agreements you have in your relationship, and your own sex life isn't lagging, then I would not stress. You don't own him or his brain or his fantasies, and typically trying to put those things under lock and key will result in a backlash of resistance and acting out (and be something potentially worse like actually cheating) . After all, we usually want what is forbidden to us.
We don't need to always like another person's behavior or desires, but we can still be empathetic, compassionate, and understanding of their needs and figure out a solution that works within the relationship framework.
Perhaps more reading in the RPW wiki about male sexuality would be helpful. And, work on your own self esteem so you don't feel threatened by sexual images of random women online.
Good luck!
Azihayya 3y ago
If you don't want that in your marriage then it's not okay--and your reasons are perfectly fine desires to have for what you are looking for from your love life. Maybe you have to acknowledge that, in accordance with your boundaries, that separation is an option, is on the table. Your husband, whatever he's going through, I don't think is responsible enough to even know or be able to express what he feels and what he wants. I imagine that if he knows that separation is in the table, the next thing that will crop up for him in therapy is the idea that he isn't getting what he wants from you--but you're not the problem. This is his problem--and he has to be responsible enough to know that he either wants you, or he wants a relationship where he can also have pornography; but that's not a burden that you should bear. That's not fair to you.
There's a good chance that he's actually dealing with his feelings, his identity and the life that he's chosen, and that ultimately he really does want to choose you over pornography; maybe even that he really doesn't want pornography--but I don't think that he's going to arrive at any of these conclusions in his own or by your good graces, and especially not on your time, by your wishes. Whatever is going on in his mind that drives him towards pornography is personal to him, and reflects his feelings and self-image. But you deserve someone that loves you for you, and someone who knows and believes that you and your beauty can't be substituted. Your husband does not have the tools to change his perceptions of beauty, sex, etc. As long as he doesn't have the tools he's going to struggle. He won't even know what to care about or how.
In storytelling, or in any kind of art, really... There's a concept called pruning, where you start with an infinite number of options and have to choose a main narrative thread that defines the theme, mood and direction of your story--and every choice you make for your story prunes away at an infinite number of other branches... In your husband's mind, giving up on pornography probably means to him having to prune all of these alternate life paths. It means having to prune his sense of aesthetic beauty, cutting away all of these different branches of a sexuality, a fetishization of the female body, that he's cultivated for years and years. And he's likely done this in a way that you never have before, and for different reasons.
I'm not saying it's over for you two. I just want you to truly respect your boundaries and understand that when your husband seems like he's really trying his best and has the best of intentions, that he's still going to be making mistakes. He's not going to know what he wants, and he's not going to know what you want--and he's going to put you both through difficult situations just trying to figure out what love means to him, while trying to wrap his mind around his identity as he questions what he wants to do with his life.
That's, unfortunately, the story of men. They're woefully unprepared for most things that have to do with love and with life. Men struggle to survive when it comes to finding mates, and being motivated to participate in society. And they form all sorts of irrational, unhealthy, and damaging ways to try to navigate that space. The question that is likely on his mind, is: "... Is this... Really what the rest of my life looks like?.. Can I be happy with this for the rest of my life?.."
rafferty_raff 3y ago
Looks like I may be an outlier here, but my husband and I have always enjoyed porn, together and separately. Ethical production issues aside, porn is a product and it’s designed to be consumed. This is a fundamentally different experience than being with one’s lover - to us, they’re not comparable and don’t compete with each other. And I don’t feel threatened or insecure because of this distinction. I like that he is interested in/turned on by other women because to me it’s a sign that he’s virile and high value. I think being interested in sex and sex objects is an integral part of the human experience and I find it odd that some - perhaps most? - monogamous arrangements seem to condition themselves on curtailing it.
He married you. Ask him if he wants to marry any of the porn actresses he watches. And they don’t want to marry him when they’re doing what they’re doing.
Different things.
UrFriendlySuccubus 3y ago
I pretty much feel the same way up til the point where you said you like him being interested in other women. I am okay with him being turned on by other women but not interested. But that’s just me.
rafferty_raff 3y ago
Yep I meant interested sexually, not interested in moving in with them and having their kids!
There seems to be an odd distinction we make culturally between general sexual interest and being “turned on,” as if the latter is not voluntary and therefore more forgivable and the former a gateway drug to cheating or something. I have a theory that this distinction is just another controlling mechanism that feminist women (unconsciously?) implemented and our culture absorbed. What do you think of this?
UrFriendlySuccubus 3y ago
Yes, I mean that’s a very interesting observation. You may be right with the controlling part. I tried thinking about my own thought process and realized that “interest” is not as accepted as just turned on because it implies that it is consciously done, and the idea of my partner wanting to be with someone else is not as good in my head. So yeah, it could be a controlling thing
rafferty_raff 3y ago
Mate I am a control freak in remission and I have definitely done the same thing in the past! No shade
KombuchaEnema 3y ago
I think in this case you’re talking about a difference in the way you would define the word “interested.”
I think you probably agree on the premise, but this is simply a phrasing issue.
Advanced_Tadpole7046 3y ago
My husband used to watch porn, I felt betrayed, I felt he was cheating on me. He developed that habit as a teen as he found some magazines, he loved me and he found me attractive however his vice was stronger. At one point we almost separated because of it, finally we went into marriage counseling and he is free from it and our relationship and sex life are better than ever. No matter where you go, religious sources, psychology, studies, etc. Porn is not positive on men and even some people may be ok with that, most women will feel hurt by it.
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Great-Band-Name 3y ago
Try finding some material you both find exciting. Watch together.
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LivelyLychee 3y ago
No moralizing. Removed.