Hi all,
I wanted to seek help from you all. I am in a troubled situation and cant get my head wrapped around the latest events in my life.
I have been with this guy since last fall. We met over dinner and things took off. We came to know more about each other and were amazing together in everyway. We just completely get each other and i felt like this thing is gonna be for the long haul. He was very honest about his past and I was about mine. Our relationship was very naturally RP. A few months after seeing each other regularly, i moved in with him this january. We lived together. He is working and I am a student. My university was walking distance from his place. I could always take out a lot of time for him. I would cook for him and he would absolutely love it. To be honest, this was the best period of my life. I absolutely loved every bit of it. We never fought and were never unpleasant towards each other. Bedroom life was super-good and we always talked about a lot of things. I felt he was always there for me. Overall i believe he treated me with respect and cared about me and so did I.
Except one issue which brings me to post here-
His ex. He was dating a girl a few years back and things were serious between them. She wanted to marry him, and initially he agreed but then decided to call it off because he wasnt sure. ( I am not sure what made him unsure). He says this changed a lot of things for her and according to him, his decision to break things with her made her life very difficult. A couple of months later is when I come into the picture. However, during this time they were still in touch over the phone ( she is very far away, he moved due to career) and she would often pursuade him to change his mind and he felt he was still emotionally connected to her. After meeting me, he told me everything about this. I was initially alarmed but then decided to let him sort things for himself. Things werent that serious between us. In December, I finally asked him if he is still in touch with his ex and he said yes. He said that things are tough for him as he has hurt her a lot but he doesnt want to change his decision. At this point I told him that if he has to continue seeing me, I would want no baggage from his side. He understood and he finally told me around new years that he wants to be with me and his ex is not there in the picture. I trusted him with this and really liked him at this point and decided I want to be with him.
Fast forward to now, We had been living together until almost may. I had to temporarly move back into my apartment which is 10 mins away. We started seeing each other every 3-4 days.
This friday however I saw some texts of hers on his Ipad, which essentially made me question everything. They had continued to talk after december, and had been talking on and off. More like once or twice a month. But more than that, the conversation was very very emotional. He admitted to being in love with her and missing her. He reminisced about some time he spent with her, and how much he wish she was here. He even admitted to downloading her pictures from facebook onto his phone. He said, she has a special place in his heart that no one else can take. This hurt me to the core. Moreso, because he had never been this emotional with me. We went along really well and respected each other ( atleast i thought) but he never admitted towards any feelings for me. I always used to wonder why we never talk about "us". I often tried getting an emotional response from him. Like confessing that I love him, or if he loves me. He never gave a strong response. I assumed maybe he is not an emotional person. But when i saw his texts to his ex, I realise that he wasnt emotional WITH ME. This hurts me a hell lot. I invested a lot into building this relationship. I was very much 100% into him. I know I always tried to be a better person for him, every day.
I feel he almost had an emotional affair behind my back. I was very very angry and disappointed. I felt he has disrespected me. Upon confrontation, he has said things like " those texts mean nothing", "She is gone for me". "I just said because i felt emotional at the moment", "this shouldnt affect us", "she is my past" "sometimes my emotions catch me and i slipped".
We havent talked since 2 days. He is taking time to process and so am I. But I know after sometime he would want to talk to me and know where I am. I loved how things were with him. But I cannot compromise on my self respect which I feel is compromised. I was so hunting for his love, or affection but he was giving it all away to some other woman. I know i have put my best in this thing with him and now I cannot understand if i should throw it all away or just suck it up. He has even admitted that he has some remnant feelings about this girl. One can only be emotionally involved at one place and I feel I have been cheated, Coz his love and his affection mattered so much to me. I feel like I wont be able to trust him again and there is no point, and I dont want to be secondary to some other woman in his life. But at the same time the fact that we were good together also puts doubts in my mind. Please suggest.
TLDR: SO emotionally over-attached to ex. Exchange romantic and intense messages, once/twice every month. Talk on video. dont know how to handle.

prettylittledictator 10y ago
Leave him.
My boyfriend was devastated when his "love of his life" left him...
But he moved on and realized that in order to be happy one must move on and accept the fact that it's over and there's no turning back.
He's told me a bunch of times that if I leave him...there would be no getting back together. I know he loves me to death and has been upset over the thought of losing me..but he sticks with his decisions and finds cutting ties is for the best.
Also he does NOT keep any of his exes numbers in his phone either...
lostatsea93 10y ago
Another case of women thinking that becoming MORE RP will actually help change her unqualified man. RP works best when you are both on the same page. If he isn't in this, there is nothing you can do to change that. Put your efforts to someone who is 100% yours.
NSA_CSS_Admin 10y ago
You think you know him. Sounds like you don't, next.
aZombieKitten 10y ago
Please suggest what?
He is clearly not over her. It is in your best interest to move on.
cxj 10y ago
Your bf and his exes relationship isn't over, you're just in it now. It was unfair and lame of him to do this, but there is nothing to do except move on. Think of it this way: men being emotionally involved like this is a lot more serious than if he just flat out fucked some other girl in a ons.
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need_rp_advise 10y ago
Thanks. I know I have to end this, there is nothing in it for me now
Bea_Noemi 10y ago
You're making the right decision. I know you love him but you have to love yourself more right now. This isn't healthy and he doesn't deserve to keep you on the hook.
-sun-flower- 10y ago
Do you really want to be with a guy that can't be honest or completely sure about what or who they want? Is that what you want in a Captain? A man who is lying, sneaking, and confessing all his emotions to his ex for your entire relationship so far?? Why wait around hoping he'll change? I say move on before you get hurt more. Good luck!
need_rp_advise 10y ago
Thanks. I know I just wanted to write everything here and be completely sure before I end things with him.
vintagegirlgame 10y ago
Sometimes it takes an outsider's jolt to really put things into perspective. Remember that men communicate through actions, not words. When he says "I won't communicate with her" he's just saying what you want to hear. But his actions are showing you what he is really saying. He would have to prove to you through actions (building trust) that he is over this girl but everything he's been doing clearly says that he is not. He can't just flip a switch and magically get over her. If you two were to stand a chance together, you'd have to end things now, enforce a period of no contact, and mayyyyybe start a completely new relationship down the line if he can prove that he's finally over her.
foremornings 10y ago
it's going to be really hard, but it's in your best interest to find someone else. someone who will really appreciate the value you bring to the table and someone who isn't taking you for granted and sharing his feelings for you with another woman. you're feeling cheated because he essentially cheated on you. ask yourself what he would do if she wasn't far away?
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TempestTcup 10y ago
You are the rebound woman; rebound relationships almost never work out well.
need_rp_advise 10y ago
I knew I was rebound. But I never knew for certain, at least at that time that rebound relationships are doomed from the start. Now I can see why.
TempestTcup 10y ago
Yeah, there's still a lot of feelings after only two months, so dating someone that soon after a breakup is mostly not a good idea. I suggest that you take the next six months or so (because you don't want to have a rebound relationship with someone else) and work on yourself, get your head straight, and put yourself in a better place for your future man :)
vguertin88 10y ago
We get that you live him and invested time in him. Guess what? He has cheated on you. He told another girl he loved her! That's an emotional affair and a deal breaker. You said yourself, you don't know if you'd be able to trust him again after this. You won't. I've been there with someone who physically cheated on me. You are not going to like the person you become if you stay in this relationship. Also, you are asking rpw. We expect our men to lead and be in charge of their feelings. This man was never in charge of his emotional life from day one. Not a good captain. Toss him overboard!
itsnadya101 10y ago
I've been in this situation before and it's terrible but you've gotta do what's right for you.
If you don't next him, you're just wasting more of your precious time when you could be spending it with some other guy who is RP and is willing to commit to you emotionally and physically.
When I read this, "He said, she has a special place in his heart that no one else can take.".......you've gotta next him. He's got a serious case of oneitis.
_wingnut_ 10y ago
You're just dating a man you barely know who is not over his ex.
Next
need_rp_advise 10y ago
I feel we do understand each other. Except this aspect of his. But since we had something amazing, no matter how short, I wanna think carefully before nexting,
_wingnut_ 10y ago
Why do you want to be second fiddle
need_rp_advise 10y ago
That was my line of thought too. That I cannot be secondary to some other woman. Just wanted someone to echo that back to me I guess.
_wingnut_ 10y ago
You barely know him, move on
_wingnut_ 10y ago
I'm sorry this is happening to you sweetie, everyone's just being blunt with you because we KNOW, many from harsh experience, how easy it is to talk yourself into thinking everything's OK. You're very early on in this relationship, and while it will hurt, the time to move on is now, not two years from now.
need_rp_advise 10y ago
I knew, I was expecting it too. But sometimes you just need to be shaken up. I am going to try coming out wiser and stronger out of this. I just don't wanna look back again. Plus I am graduating. So my circumstances will change very soon, probably making it lot more easier.
katiemonster 10y ago
I've been down this road. It doesn't end well. Next.
The_BeardedGentleman 10y ago
I've been that guy before. Get out of there. Hes only going to hurt you. In fact, it looks as if he already is.
Aine_of_knockaine 10y ago
He isn't over his ex. Move on and find someone who is emotionally available. Let it go. You will be better off in the long run.
donit 10y ago
I think what is most important is the frequency of their communication. If he is spending every day with you, and only communicating once or twice a month with her, then there is no comparison between the two, at all. A relationship is all about focus, which is your Reticular Activation System (RAS). It sounds like he's giving you 99% of his RAS and maybe 1% to the ex, which can pretty much be rounded down to zero because it doesn't offer her much hope.
All the other stuff is just words. You're feeling jealous over words he typed to her, that were intended to make her feel better. What other motive would he have if he's not communicating with her on a regular basis and doesn't seem to have any plans or outlook for ever seeing her?
They're just words, it only took him a few seconds to type them, and so it's not like they're an emotional investment. They don't cost him anything financially or emotionally. Words are intended for the person receiving them, and they are chosen around what he thinks the other person wants to hear.
Although I'm a little concerned about his saying he wished she was there, which doesn't really match the situation and may have involved a bit of alcohol, the fact that he then forgets about her for several weeks at a time seems to expose his words as being centered around what he thinks she wants to hear, rather than being his true intent. If she's not even on his mind on a regular basis, then she's pretty much just a memory and an occasional escape to reminisce about.
If she lives far away and he's only communicating with her like once a month, then for all practical purposes she is pretty much gone from his life. I don't think you have anything to worry about, and her faded presence might actually strengthen your relationship with him by providing him with a bit of ongoing, non-threatening social proof, which will help preserve your attraction for him. And as with any relationship, what's good for one of you is good for both, because it's a relationship.
need_rp_advise 10y ago
Yes but those words are not meaningless. He is not just catching up with her asking her what's up. Those words mean something to him. More because he never said anything closely as emotional to me. I get it I am feeling very jealous and hurt, but is it unjustified? If women are hitting on him all the time, I can get how that is meaningless to him. But his own words cannot be meaningless right? Dont think that is some serious emotional hangover?
donit 10y ago
They are just series of key-presses, but there's no evidence of any meaning behind them. You feel like you wish he would say them to you, but you want him to mean it when he says it to you.
He obviously doesn't mean it when he says it to her, so it's not something you're missing out on that she's getting, because she's not getting anything of any value.
He just types a few nice things just to make her feel better and then goes about his day, week, month without giving it another thought.
The point is the intent of the words, whether he is trying to make her feel better, or whether he is trying to seduce her and build a relationship with her. It's obviously the former, because he doesn't even bother talking with her. So, it seems obvious to me he is not trying to build anything with her.
And don't act threatened, that just makes you seem like you don't have any confidence in yourself or think you have any value to him. "I'm worried about this woman you've forgotten about is going to take you away from me" implies you think you have less value than someone he's moved on from and forgotten about.
I would just drop it and forget about it, since stressing him about it and displaying a low self-esteem isn't going to add any value to your relationship. Or, if you feel like you can't let it go and the imaginary jealousy keeps eating at you, then two can play that game, and so you could start consoling one of your exes, and see how he likes it. Also, when people are texting, they often are much more dramatic than they would ever be in person. It's a different realm, and more imaginary and poetic than real. You can make dramatic promises and I love you's , and since they're just text, they automatically get discounted in their meaning. Nobody's going to hold you to the words, so they're just intended for the moment.
closetrpw 10y ago
In /r/TheRedPill, if a girl is not giving a guy her sexual best/she did more with previous guys, they hard next her.
I think the analog here should be that if, after a reasonable amount of time, the guy is not giving you his emotional best/was more committed with previous girls, we should hard next them.
need_rp_advise 10y ago
This hits home, and is very true in my situation.
Reddthrown 10y ago
I'm sorry, but he is obviously not over his ex, and will therefore never be able to love you. He might get over her, but because you met while he was still attached to his ex, he will never attach himself to you.
Time cut all contact and move on.
SouthernPetite 10y ago
Bail. Don't invest in a dutch auction. It won't turn out well for you in the end.
need_rp_advise 10y ago
can you elaborate more?
SouthernPetite 10y ago
It's dangerous to feel the need to continue with something just because you don't want to lose your investment.
He was/is having an emotional affair, he lied, you aren't his top priority relationship-wise, otherwise these things wouldn't have happened. He is essentially the male equivalent to an alpha widow. You are a convenience (physical or otherwise) to him while he pines away for someone else at the expense of your dignity.
I know it hurts, but the sooner you accept it, the better.
itsnadya101 10y ago
This hurts to read but this is some great RP advice.
PursuingGrace 10y ago
He can not be in a relationship with you, while still feeling like his heart is with her.