I'm in a fairly newly committed relationship that is pretty redpill thanks to following redpill over the past six months.
Once we were definitely exclusive/committed, we had sex. This was a no-brainer for me because I wasn't going to give something up (another N count) before he committed, and giving that up too early only weakens my SMV if I had gotten pumped and dumped.
My BF has made some pretty extreme sacrifices for me, as well, including actively avoiding a female friend he knew I was uncomfortable with. To him, this was a bit ridiculous because even though he knew she was into him, he would never hook up with her. To me, it didn't seem as ridiculous because she was ruthlessly hitting on him all of the time and it made me uncomfortable. He gave up talking to her/avoiding situations that would include her for me. He's wonderful.
I [25F] am a rower, and last year I was on a masters' rowing team when an old coach reached out. The entire team consists of my friends' parents, and they needed someone who knew about rowing and boats to help out. This year, I started attending practices but my boyfriend was sketched out because he didn't know who I was rowing with. I offered for him to come/meet them but he wasn't too into the idea so I slowed down my commitment to the team/made it clear I'd be coming out less because I didn't want him to feel uncomfortable. He seems to think I'm rowing with hot, 20-something men and that's not at all what I'm doing.
These people last year started relying on me, and since I suddenly slowed down my commitment to the team, they are constantly in need of a replacement coxswain (boat steerer) and I hate letting them down because they are my friends' parents. So occasionally they will ask for help, and if I don't have any plans, I go. However, I have stopped going the past few weeks because it was putting a strain on my relationship and it just wasn't worth it.
My dilemma: Out of some sort of miscommunication, the team is relying on me to cox them in an upcoming race. I think they understand now that I never meant to commit, but that doesn't change the fact that if I back out, I am preventing two boats from racing because it is too late to find another coxswain. Not only would I be screwing over half of my friends' parents for this race, I think they'd be pissed off enough to not ever let me back on the team. I feel it would be wrong to back out of the race. These are good people that sincerely thought I was going to help them this weekend. I also don't like cutting ties with good people; nor do I like ruining the possibility of rowing in the future.
If I went, it'd be the last rowing event I attend until either my relationship can handle rowing or until we break up. I'm prepared for that to be never. Unfortunately, going also means that I am knowingly, intentionally pissing off my boyfriend.
However, if I don't go, I feel these people wouldn't forgive me. I'd be ruining my chances of rowing with them in the future, and I'm not sure I could find a team I like as much as them. Rowing is also something that makes me the person I am, and in my opinion, adds to my SMV. If I piss these people off and my relationship doesn't last, I'm losing something else I care about, just not as much as my current boyfriend. I really wish there were a way for me to back out without screwing over the team/find a replacement but it's too late.
I talked to him about it, and he said in a rather pissed off tone "go I trust you" but I can tell he's NOT happy about me going. I tried to get him to come with me to just see that I'm just helping out married people (both men and women) twice my age who I have no intention on doing anything weird with and even told him I thought he'd have a fun time spectating, but he said rather coolly he didn't want to come. I told him I didn't want to go if he didn't want to come and he just said "do what you want, stop making this about me." This makes me feel now that no matter what I choose, I'm going to upset him, because if I don't go, he'll assume I'm not following his advice and making it about him but bringing up the subject in the first place pissed him off and if I go, I'm also pissing him off. I hate pissing him off. I also hate pissing of my friends' parents.
I'm still just uneasy about the whole thing.
Can someone convince me it's worth it to make this sacrifice? My gut tells me I shouldn't have even mentioned it if I didn't want to strain the relationship but I also feel really scummy burning bridges with/ruining races for 12 people.
EDIT: I haven't talked to my friends about this because I don't think they'd understand and simply say "wtf that's a ridiculous thing to give up for a man" -also sorry for the grammar mistake in the title
EDIT2: I bolded things I thought were important. I also told him that I would try to find a replacement, but that if I didn't, I felt obligated to go even though I didn't want to without him. I also told him that our mutual female friend would come with me to watch races and if he wanted to go he should, but he firmly stated he wouldn't be and then cancelled our plans for tonight, even though he insists he doesn't care. I feel he's husband material and would honestly do anything to keep him if I knew he was sticking around for good. Does it sound like I'm making a big deal out of this and that's what turned him off? Maybe I should have non-chalantly asked if he wanted to go to a regatta with me on Saturday instead of bringing it up in a "I know this makes you uncomfortable, but here is my dilemma..." way?
edit 3: I responded but the automod keeps removing my posts. To be clear, if I could easily back out of this regatta without screwing over 12 people from racing then I would have done that and wouldn't have even brought it up to him. I told him my dilemma and he just said "it sounds like you don't want to go so don't go" but then later said "I literally don't care do whatever." The choice isn't rowing v. him; I've already been missing practices for him. The choice is burning bridges and cutting ties by screwing over a couple of boats/disrespecting my friends' parents v. disrespecting my bf.
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UPDATE: He is acting friendlier toward me and I think after thinking about it understands this weekend's situation, and also feels better that our friend is coming with me. I am going to go ahead with the race, even though he thinks I'm being a pushover, and then not go to any more rowing events unless or until he brings it up. It's not the sport itself that he's weirded out by but rather the possibility of me meeting up with secret hot friends or something who row. I don't think this weekend is a dealbreaker for him but I am going to make sure the situation never happens again and for now, not participate after this weekend.

closetrpw 10y ago
I'm a little late to the party but I sympathize with you because it sounds like you genuinely are willing to give up rowing for your SO, but felt uneasy about a particular situation involving rowing.
I'm not sure what the entire situation was/how the misunderstanding came about, but if it truly was an ethical dilemma for you, I think the right answer would have been to move forward in a way that was in tune with your morals. If your boyfriend decided to break up with you for it, then you have no control over that. You weren't ready to change morals for him.
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I think ultimately this boiled down to him wanting you to make the relationship a priority over things that you didn't want to. I'm not saying it was right of him to expect that you let down your team for him. I'm saying that's what he wanted, and you couldn't give him what he wanted. If he breaks up with you for this incident, it might sound cutthroat, but you should let him go to find someone willing to make those sacrifices. Again, I'm not saying you should make those sacrifices, I'm saying that he should be with someone who does, even if that might not seem right or fair to you.
I hope everything worked out. From your update it sounds like he does understand your need to respect your elders and that you guys might be a good fit afterall.
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raisin_warlord 10y ago
Glad it worked out in the end OP :)
help_surrendering 10y ago
Thanks me too :) I hope to update you guys in a month or two after whatever issues boil over
liphyx 10y ago
I don't think it's as easy as rowing vs your boyfriend. If it were you seem to choose your boyfriend. It seems you have to choose between your boyfriend and being a good person.
help_surrendering 10y ago
Exactly this. I have no intention on continuing my participation in rowing, but felt so scummy backing out of the event. If I felt this weekend would have been a deal breaker for him though, I would have burned the bridges.
windlabyrinth 10y ago
The only choice for you to make is this partner or this hobby. I'm going to dissent and say somebody might find rowing to be attractive. Perhaps another rower may enjoy having a partner that also rows. Who knows? The fact is, that's not your partner.
If you want to continue a relationship with this partner you will have willingly give up rowing. If you would rather be tied to rowing then you'll have to give up this partner because he's clearly not a partner who values rowing. What you cannot do is submit, surrender rowing and then be a bitch about it for the duration of your partnership "well I gave up rowing for you so you should do this for me.." if you're going to be like that just go ahead and part ways.
help_surrendering 10y ago
I would never hold it over his head. I've accepted the fact that I am going to give up rowing on this team. I'm just not so sure about Saturday's situation.
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help_surrendering 10y ago
I also just wanted to highlight this. Thank you. I think you've accurately characterized what the discussion should be about.
help_surrendering 10y ago
Thank you so much for your well thought out post. I agree that being a good rpw isn't about being a doormat- it's about being strong in a feminine way. I agree the smart thing to do is to always think critically about things and always evaluate what's best for you in addition to what's best for your partner.
For anyone else who read through this and wants more context, I really do think this man would make a good husband and we make a great team. He has his imperfections, but I don't think any of them are deal breakers. I kind of understand where he's coming from, because earlier on in the relationship he had some uneasiness with a few guy friends. I dropped most guy friends early on when we started seeing each other (I still stay friendly/nice with my friends' boyfriends though out of sheer convenience but I would never hit them up or anything) mostly out of respect, but even this weirded him out because his logic verbatim was "if they were truly only just friends, then why would you need to avoid them?" and I simply responded that I didn't need to, but wanted to because they're not as fun as him and I think that's what he was looking for. I've never hid anything from him, but sometimes I get the feeling that he thinks I am and I really don't have anything to hide. I've always told him that if he asks me anything I'd always give him a direct, honest answer. I think he also just has a weird aversion to organized activities and planning in general. I don't think his parents made him play team sports or anything as a kid, and he wasn't part of any clubs or extra curriculars in high school or college. He worked, but seemed to have a flexible work schedule. He's not really used to team commitments in that sense.
Edit: I guess what I'm trying to say is his uneasiness with rowing is sort of uncharacteristic of his personality as a whole, and I recognize that it's important to show him that I have his back, even if on the outside, his uneasiness may seem ridiculous. It's also important to me to evaluate my basic boundaries, him as a captain, and how I treat my elders and friends' parents. What I'm going to do is go this weekend since he seems more accepting of it and then cease all team rowing activities.
pseudomuffin 10y ago
Can you invite your boyfriend to the race? Maybe that way he will see who you're rowing with and feel less threatened by your friends parents vs. the hot 20-something guys he's imagined.
Rowing is clearly a passion for you and it's a very healthy activity not only because it keeps you in shape but because you love it. I know you're invested in your relationship and you want to be the best RPW to your man, but it's important to have healthy hobbies/interests... And his insecurity and unwillingness to accept the reality of your rowing team sounds a little unreasonable to me.
It could be that he's just reflecting in his attitude how unreasonable he felt your request to cut out the thirsty girl friend he used to hang out with. I think sometimes jealousy and insecurity breed more of the same. Either way I'd try talking with him about it. This is clearly a trust issue that's causing both of you stress.
_wingnut_ 10y ago
Why do you consider this RPW advice?
pseudomuffin 10y ago
I live an RPW lifestyle and communication is how my spouse and I address any problems we encounter before they get to major stress points in our relationship. I am a submissive wife and fully surrendered to my husband but we still have to talk openly about things like any other couple.
I didn't tell her to nag her boyfriend or be oppositional, just to talk to him about the situation and maybe explore how he was feeling about her asking him to cut out his admirer with the understanding that this could be why he's reacting to her rowing team the way that he is.
I do think rowing is a really positive activity, though, which is why I suggested that she invite her boyfriend to the race. The OP says this is a new relationship so they're probably not wholly familiar with each other's hobbies and maybe seeing her in action with her rowing team (comprised of friends' parents and NOT hot bodied 20-something's) would put his mind at ease.
help_surrendering 10y ago
Thank you. Earlier this week, he expressed an interest in learning what the sport was about so I told him I'd check up on boat availability. Then when I found out about the regatta, I invited him immediately and told him I'd be so happy for him to come but it is at a location a few hours away and he has pretty firmly stated that he's not going. I really do feel though that if he came to even just one practice he'd be completely relieved. The thing is, no matter how unreasonable it sounds, it still makes him uncomfortable, and I do sense that he is in fact reflecting on how unreasonable it felt for him to give up the thirsty girl and I do think I should consider giving this up for him, because maybe it's not so unreasonable from his perspective.
Trust is a huge thing for us, unfortunately, but I'm disappointed because I was feeling SO much better after the girl was handled and now I hate that I'm the one that's adding stress.
vintagegirlgame 10y ago
You don't have a rowing issue, you have a trust issue. And it's on both sides. You didn't trust him around thirsty girl. He doesn't trust you around an important group activity that he doesn't bother to find out about.
Why does him giving up thirsty girl have anything to do with your rowing? It sounds like score keeping. Like you feel like you owe him since he enabled your lack of trust. Why doesn't he trust you? Why didn't you trust him?
help_surrendering 10y ago
I agree it's definitely a trust issue and I do feel like I'm score keeping a little bit but it's more that I saw that he eventually completely had my back even though to him it may have seemed crazy, and I feel like I should do the same for him.
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help_surrendering 10y ago
I do think that's part of it. I think since he felt it was ridiculous to stop talking to her, he's waiting for me to show in some way I'd do the same for him. He could also just want to show that he is morally superior by letting me do something he is sketched out by after I couldn't handle him doing something I was sketched out by.
HappySnowGirl 10y ago
You guys aren't a good fit and you're not that into him. It happens. Learn from it and do better next time.
help_surrendering 10y ago
Perhaps we're not a good fit but I really am so into him and lucky to have him.
fhigurethisout 10y ago
no. you're into rowing and your 'future date-ability'.
By even mentioning your smv and future date-ability you're just giving yourself an excuse to be (advanced apologies) selfish
help_surrendering 10y ago
I agree. I'm being selfish by looking out for my future self. I haven't been able to fully surrender/submit yet to my new relationship because even though I'd like it to last forever, I'm not secure in its stability.
fhigurethisout 10y ago
it's better to work on being your best self with your current partner. The future is not your concern unless he's a legitimately bad captain or you're not in love with him (and if you aren't then why are you with him and wasting his time?).
I know how easy it is to worry that he will leave you etc, but you won't EVER fully enjoy a relationship unless you focus on the PRESENT. Enjoy what it is. Give up control. the only way you'll ever be intimate with someone is allowing yourself to be vulnerable.
help_surrendering 10y ago
Thank you. You're right. I'm letting my anxiety prevent me from truly enjoying the relationship. I can't control him leaving me and I should trust that he won't. If he does, then I make the best out of that situation.
fhigurethisout 10y ago
That's how life works...these situations are out of our control. All we can do is make the best versions of ourselves and enjoy each fortunate moment that we live.
You will overcome yourself, it just takes time.
_wingnut_ 10y ago
I gave you level 1 flair, keep up the great comments!
fhigurethisout 10y ago
Oh, nice! thanks so much. :)
_wingnut_ 10y ago
Good stuff
sugarcrush 10y ago
They're not married any haven't even been in a committed relationship for that long. I think she is right to keep the future in mind, especially since this guy seems passive aggressive and won't even give her a straight answer. If he has a problem with it he should clearly state that instead of acting pissy and saying "do whatever".
fhigurethisout 10y ago
I'm not saying he's perfect. i'm saying she's already made up her mind about how long this relationship is going to last if she's thinking about her future date-ability over her partner's feelings
vintagegirlgame 10y ago
How does rowing improve her SMV when her boyfriend dislikes her doing it? Once you are in a relationship SMV applies to that one and only man. If it's the fitness aspect, then there are other ways to stay fit.
Overall though it seems like a red flag that he's so jealous/insecure over the whole thing. I have to be around men a lot and my SO completely trusts me. There may be other things that she's doing/has done that have made him distrustful of her. Or he just might not be a confident man.
_wingnut_ 10y ago
And you are right
help_surrendering 10y ago
I would very much like it to last so I think better wording is that I haven't yet decided to trust that it's going to last. He's a high quality man who can leave at any time. I'm not sure if it's too early to make these types of sacrifices. I'm giving up rowing, but I'm not going to screw over the team this weekend. My position as boat steerer is impossible to replace last minute.
scallopkid 10y ago
If you keep on not trusting him, he is going to leave.
agh_missedit 10y ago
This is what you say - "I'm going to the race. I really want to row because I enjoy it. I am an awesome boatswain and I want to help my team win." Then go do your thing and be super proud of yourself.
You are not intentionally pissing off your boyfriend. You are doing you, an awesome boatswain. Rowing is part of your self-care. It is part of what makes you you. Even you said it yourself in bold letters.
Surrendering is about being your own self. Understanding who you are, what you want and self-improving yourself towards it. Surrendering is about is surrendering the things that you can't control. Rowing is part of you and you shouldn't feel the need to surrender that.
What you need to surrender in this case is controlling the outcome of whether you go row or not. You can't control his reaction or what he will do next after you come back from the race. That is where you surrender.
_wingnut_ 10y ago
How is this appropriate RPW advice, I'm interested in your thought process
myfriendmarkus 10y ago
Have you asked him why he doesn't like you rowing? If he like you say just thinks you're off with other guys then that's an issue that can be resolved without you giving up your hobby entirely. Until you talk to him about it you don't know if there are issues that can be worked out or if it really is something you should give up.
About this race, you are better off if you can get away with not burning bridges especially if these people are good connections to have. Maybe say something along the lines of "I really don't want to let down my friends parents, I want to do this last race and I'd love if you could come and watch". If he says it is important for you not to then it's up to you to decide. This man may be you're captain and it may be a sacrifice you have to make, on the other hand you may be burning good connections for a man that isn't going to step up for you.
help_surrendering 10y ago
Thank you. I did try to show him emails/pictures but I think the ultimate issue is he doesn't trust 100% what I'm up to and I'm trying to earn that. I cut back participation but this particular situation has me in a dilemma.
itsnadya101 10y ago
Man first, career/accomplishments second.
When you go out rowing, you're putting rowing first but also offending your boyfriend.
I'm not sure if rowing is the problem you have but there might be some underlying reasons beside that as to why he is pissed off.
Rowing is a symptom to a problem you have.
help_surrendering 10y ago
The problem absolutely is trust. I have trouble trusting him with certain female admirers of his. He has trouble trusting a group of people he's never met. It isn't about the sport, it's about him thinking I'm with people I'm hiding from him even though I've tried to show him numerous times they are not a threat.
itsnadya101 10y ago
Ah sorry! Missed that.
Just talk about it then and hopefully the issue will resolve itself. It's interesting how sometimes the worst fears we have are ones that we project on to other people.
_wingnut_ 10y ago
You being on the rowing team has nothing to do with your SMV other than keeping you fit.
You care about your rowing more than this man. free him to find a woman who cares about him
help_surrendering 10y ago
I'd like to think I don't care more about rowing than him. I do care about not letting people down. It was a miscommunication and I think they realize that. I'm thinking about faking an emergency the day of or something but that makes me more dishonest. I could say I initially had other plans which is somewhat true but they know I'm not going on vacation or anything.
Edit: What I wrote sounds aweful. I can't just lie. It is definitely a choice between screwing over my friends' parents and disrespecting my so and I need more faith in my relationship that the SO is worth it.
HouseCatInfinity 10y ago
I wouldn't recommend faking an emergency or other plans, I feel that sort of thing would be easily seen through and you would look more dishonest.
help_surrendering 10y ago
Yeah I agree.
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_wingnut_ 10y ago
Have you read any rpw sidebar material? A women's accomplishments, participation in team sports, career, earnings, nine of these contribute to a WOMAN'S smv
This is redpill 101, something you appear to have zero understanding of
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_wingnut_ 10y ago
Why do you consider this RPW advice?
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_wingnut_ 10y ago
A woman who places some masculinized intersex sports activity over a man is not wife material or RPW, while this man of course may not be for her, this is not the issue here.
Your reasoning is not Rpw reasoning, it's quasi masculine, idiosyncratic reasoning that's not in keeping with we hat we believe. Don't give non rpw advice here, the fact that you even use the word "controlling" for a mans wishes shows you don't belong here
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freebumblebee 10y ago
I agree. There are a lot of people will freak out over a boyfriend (for example) putting his foot down over his girl doing something like sleeping in the same bed as a man or having sleepovers with one or dancing with other guys or any number of legitimately sketchy activities. This is not one of them. This is a sport that OP is participating in with other people's parents ffs. And he won't even consider meeting them or going to events.
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_wingnut_ 10y ago
some non RP bullshit, like every other comment on this thread practically
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help_surrendering 10y ago
I don't think it is, but he also didn't think my objection to the girl was reasonable. He has avoided hanging out with his friends on certain occasions to avoid running into this girl for me- not on my request, but because he KNEW it would make me uncomfortable, and he was right. I did request him to stop talking to her and he did that. He has invested so much else into me, as well, and I want to show him that I have his back. I just wouldn't feel good about myself burning these bridges.
EDIT: I'd also like to say that even though it may be unreasonable, I feel like how the situation makes him feel is more important than whether or not objectively this is unreasonable.
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help_surrendering 10y ago
Thank you for your response. I do feel like he is more important than rowing but I don't feel super confident in our commitment because it's so new, so I'm not sure he is more important than the bridges I'd be burning. I need to figure this out for myself, I realized.
lisfb 10y ago
You call her SO petty and then you say that he wants to control her, even though he has left it completely up to her to decide if she wants to go or not and told her to stop making her choices based off of him.
Look, I think I get where you're coming from - I also gave side eye the first few times I read through this post - but keep in mind we're only getting a part of the story, based off what OP has decided to share here and we don't even have that much to understand what led up to their current situation.
For all any of us know, she may be reading this wrong and despite his personal feelings, her boyfriend is more irritated by her bringing up the matter/changing her mind on what to do instead of making a decision and sticking to it. Speaking for myself, but I really like decisiveness - people who flip flop on things makes me want to pull my hair out.
Where in her post did she say anything about wanting to have a good relationship with these people so she can further her own career goals?
Her SO? The dude she believes she wants to one day marry? She says he has invested greatly in her, he has taken steps and gone beyond, on his own accord, to ensure she feels comfortable in their relationship and in order to make it extremely clear that while others may aggressively throw themselves at him, he isn't interested in taking up their offers when he has her. You are downplaying the importance she's given him in her life - with the posts she's made in this thread he does not come across to me as just some dude she's lazily whiling away her time with.
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_wingnut_ 10y ago
You have flair :)
lisfb 10y ago
Whaaaa.....thank you (and a big 'thank you' to the other mods as well)! Lettin' me look all spiffy in this sub! :D
_wingnut_ 10y ago
Your contributions have been excellent :-)
lisfb 10y ago
Thank you!
HannahFree 10y ago
Based on where you are right now in this dilemma, I would say you should do the race, and this is why:
He told you to go!
Trust that he means what he is saying, and quit making it about him like he asked. If you are making a bigger deal out of this than he is, you should stop asking him a question he's already answered (are you sure you're okay with me going?). This shows you are second guessing him and doubting that's he means what he is saying.
After this race, I'd cut out the rowing. If the appeal is competition, maybe you can find a co-ed sport you can both enjoy.
emphesym 10y ago
It seemed like he passive aggressively said it and/or said it without wanting her to go if he sounded pissed off
help_surrendering 10y ago
You're right. He did say to go. I feel no matter what I do at this point I'm pissing him off because if I don't go, I'm still not listening to him.
Camille11325 10y ago
The responses you have recieved so far in this thread are not RP, please do not listen to them and instead take a hard look at your actions and motivations. Several issues and questions come to mind as I read your post:
Why does your boyfriend still have an unclear idea of who you are on a team with? Have you not shown him photos, described in detail exactly who is a member, or done anything concrete to dispel his false understanding?
Why did you continue going to the practises and competitions if you knew that it upset him?
Rowing does not add to your SMV. It may make you happy, it may make you more interesting to talk to, but it does not make you more sexually attractive.
You are overly concerned with offending and disappointing this team, and seem to not care about how your boyfriend feels. For whatever reason, he does not want you engaging in this activity, and instead of complying, you flaunt your disrespect for his preferences.
You don't seem to have a good sense of perspective. There are other teams, other sports, other hobbies, other people you can be friends with. There are also other women your boyfriend can date, women who would be considerate of the expectations and boundaries he establishes. If you don't hold your relationship as a top priority, fine, just end it now so that he can find someone who values him the way he wants to be valued.
help_surrendering 10y ago
Thank you so much for your response. I did stop going to practices once I realized it was putting a strain on the relationship. I actually did show him pictures and give him names but I'm still earning his trust and for whatever reason, he is sketched out. He is a pretty reasonable person otherwise though.
The problem really isn't rowing vs. him, it's burning bridges and cutting ties/future opportunities vs. a relationship which is newly committed. I'd love it to be forever, but at this point it's so new I'm uncertain about the future. I want to make him a top priority, but feel uneasy about preventing 12 people from rowing. If I could back out of the regatta without screwing them over, I wouldn't have even brought it up to him and just done that.
I guess I need to convince myself that rowing is not adding as much to my smv as I think it is. I just feel kind of scummy letting these people down.
_wingnut_ 10y ago
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aZombieKitten 10y ago
I have one question for you:
Which is more important, your relationship or rowing?
Because the way you talk about "future datability" makes it sound like you don't think you're in this relationship for the long haul, and if you aren't, then you should let this man go immediately.
help_surrendering 10y ago
I'm in it for the long haul, but I'm always going to be a bit scared he's not. He has plenty of other options and can leave at any time. If I make this sacrifice and he decides to leave then I'm left worse off than I started, and not just n count wise. I guess this is the true reality of relationships though.
aZombieKitten 10y ago
Do you trust him to not leave? Have there been discussions of marriage in the future?
help_surrendering 10y ago
There have not been discussions of marriage, but light discussions of possibly moving in. Even if I gave this up, I feel our relationship is new enough where he could still leave. He is a high quality man.
raisin_warlord 10y ago
It's not rowing.
OP has to choose between BF (who might not even stick around for that long) and old friends with whom she's trained and sweat blood with.
_wingnut_ 10y ago
These are the pivotal moments that turn GFs into wives
help_surrendering 10y ago
Thank you for saying this. I agree it's situations like these that confirm true loyalty. I'll keep this in mind for the future.
I guess why I'm so hesitant is because we're not even at the point where we're considering marriage yet. I'd like to eventually be a wife, but I don't even know if this particular sacrifice would play into his decision to move in that direction because we are fairly newly committed as bf and gf.
aZombieKitten 10y ago
She thinks he's husband material. But if she seriously cares less about him than she does these other people, then she should let him go so he can find someone that DOES care about him.
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aZombieKitten 10y ago
In your opinion, no. To her, he may be husband material.
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