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Lux_x_Aeterna

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My mom (bless her soul) cannot stand my right-wing stance on feminism, immigration and the like. She is currently studying sociology at a well-known university where she has taken such *gems* as gender studies class. I usually try to avoid politics but she constantly tries to fight with me, and grind her ideology into me. What can I do to make her see my perspective, or at least open her eyes to the disgusting leftist agenda she is being indoctrinated with?

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fadgeoh 6y ago

I have sociology degrees. I am a feminist. I am also supportive of rpw discourse and ideas and I find it inspires me to be the best woman I can be in all aspects of my life and roles as a woman, a friend, a mother, and a wife. There is a lot of common ground between the two. If you have a clear head about it and can maintain a healthy life balance, the two ideologies support each other.

immaculacy 6y ago

I just saw a video on how to redpill women! Hope this helps.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obdW1FRAn6A&t=6s

teaandtalk 6y ago

If you don't want to argue about it, don't. Stop bringing up your views, even in response to her baiting, and be clear that you don't want to talk about it.

Lux_x_Aeterna 6y ago

It’s hard when she literally makes everything about getting me to reveal my “dark side” ie. my differing ideology which supposedly goes against everything she raised me to be

Not_Another_Inch 6y ago

My strategy with a close relative of mine who is passionate in his ignorance, and does not know how to shut up has been to completely ignore his very existence or words when he starts in. I basically just pretend I didn't hear anything and say something completely unrelated to whatever word vomit he just spewed out. Or just ignore his existence and keep doing whatever I was doing until he changes the subject. It has worked pretty well and he only occasionally forgets himself and starts in these days. Your mom sounds like she is probably higher iq than my relative, but that shouldn't make any difference because she's obviously the same as far as the ignorance of other views and intolerance. And unfortunately those kind of classes actually make people stupider, because they are essentially brainwashing and studies show that you're more.likely to come to correct conclusions knowing nothing about a subject at all than by knowing a bunch of crap that just isn't so. They are specifically designed to give people a false sense of intellectual superiority because they've learned to regurgitate the "right" things. People like that are quite literally incapable of having rational, intellectually based discussions. They will always get emotional, take any criticism of their views as some kind of personal attack on themselves, etc. Trust me, I know it can be hard to ignore when someone, especially someone whose opinion you care about, spouts nonsense or disrespectful abuse towards you or your views but people, especially people like this, crave attention and validation, even the negative kind, and not giving that to them is the absolute best thing you can do.

If you are secure in your beliefs (while always questioning those beliefs, because that's super important for growth and is sorely lacking in most people these days, particularly on the left it seems like, though that may be my own biases showing) then your mother's different beliefs shouldn't bother you, so just let her spout them while making it clear that she is basically talking to herself. Nobody likes being ignored, especially self-righteous narcissists, which is what makes this strategy so potent and effective. Good luck!

LateralThinker13 6y ago

Hit her with the “you are being intolerant” argument to get her to back off. All you can do. Hold her to her supposed standards.

If she says, “I am not required to be tolerant of your right wing hate,” respond with “then I don’t have to be tolerant of YOURS.” Mirror her. She will hopefully get a clue.

dietcokehoe 6y ago

Go watch Jordan Peterson and Stefan Molyneux talk gender and SJWs. Hit her with the facts, she literally cannot fight you when you have statistics and she has “feelings”

thatbadlarry 6y ago

My dad and I had vastly different politics and I really let it colour how I saw him. I didn’t give him the love or respect he deserved because of it. He died suddenly of a heart attack last summer and suddenly I realized how stupid and silly it was to let something so small interfere in the most important relationships in my life. Hold your tongue, be humble and treasure your mom and her wisdom (she still has wisdom whether you agree socially or politically).

HB3234 6y ago

You must always show your mother respect. If you two can not have a civil discussion, or if the discussions upset you, you are allowed to set a boundary about it. You can say, "Mom, I love you a lot and I don't want all our conversations to end up about politics. I'd really like to hear about what you're up to/ tell you about xyz/ etc".

Then, be boring to have political conversations with. Don't be curt or rude in your replies, but agreement statements like "I know how much you care about Y", or "issue z seems very important to you", allow you to converse without agreeing or disagreeing - instead you're focusing on her and how she feels rather than any one issue.

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The latter half of this recommendation is so simple yet brilliant. I must put this to use with certain contentious people.

[deleted] 6y ago

I would personally respond with the stance that part of the dialogue of feminism is that women are sentient beings with the full mental capacity to form opinions and make their own choices. That being the case, isn't it anti feminist to tell her own daughter she is too foolish to think for herself?

Probably would not make a lasting mark but I would say it at least once before taking on the avoid almost all conversations that aren't small talk stance.

Lux_x_Aeterna 6y ago

That is a great idea! Thanks. And you’re so right - didn’t she raise me to think for myself? Which is exactly what I am doing.

loneliness-inc 6y ago

There's a reason so many people speak so much about the weather. Because it's something that just is. No one can control it and it isn't political (although that's changing too).

Kara__El 6y ago

Crafts. I talk to these women about crafts. You can't have an argument about embroidery.

littlepearlisland 6y ago

That actually made me laugh out loud! That's why my grandmother and I talk about quilting and sewing projects so much, that and baking. Nobody can complain against a pecan pie!

Kara__El 6y ago

I have a coworker who embroiders pictures of female genitalia, no joke. Literally the only thing we can discuss is fandoms, puppies, and crafts. It's a great friendship!

bgr95 6y ago

Make her watch Jordan Peterson's interview with Cathy Newman

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Oh yes!!!

whine_and_cheese 6y ago

God damn she is annoying in that interview.

Flockofpuppies 6y ago

"When I was a boy of fourteen, my father was so ignorant I could hardly stand to have the old man around. But when I got to be twenty-one, I was astonished at how much he had learned in seven years." - Mark Twain

It's not gracious to be so condescending to the woman who (presumably) raised you and changed your diapers and loves you with her whole heart. Learning how to get along with people you disagree with is a valuable life skill, and now is a good time to practice.

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pearlsandstilettos 6y ago

Anti-feminist is a thread that runs through RPW. If you don't like a topic, sit it out. Do not concern troll.

kaazsssz 6y ago

Personally I just pretend to agree with them.

https://youtu.be/y4MGKSDlEIA

But I found this guy when searching for #walkaway videos and I ended up liking him a lot. He’s got some good, neutral, non offensive talking points which aren’t nearly as likely to trigger the typical sjw mentality as much.

I dunno. Might be useful. Good luck.

Lux_x_Aeterna 6y ago

Thank you!

Lux_x_Aeterna 6y ago

Wow, thanks for all the advise! I think what bothers me the most is - while I do respect my mom, she does tend to bait me into these conversations where I’ll voice my opinion, and then she’ll just shut me down, without actually hearing me out. Maybe I’m just too concerned with what she thinks of me? I don’t know. But yes, I definitely do not want politics to come between us. My dad has told her that she has become a bit radical, especially about feminism. But she also won’t listen to him.

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pearlsandstilettos 6y ago

There is no need to insult her mother.

callmejohny 6y ago

Sorry if I came off as insulting, I just couldn't think of a more proper english term in that moment.

yes_kid 6y ago

You really have to learn how to pretend. Just stop disagreeing with her. To be honest, you owe your mother life itself, and part of being RP (man or woman) involves showing your family unit all the respect in the world.

Do what I do - nod and agree. Then bop off and live your life the way you want to.

You will never, ever, EVER change a parent's mind. Especially one who is committed to their mindset and is submerged in the university environment.

Good luck.

Ekken_ 6y ago

part of being RP involves showing people who deserve your respect all the respect in the world

FTFY. I’m not saying her mom doesn’t deserve respect, only OP knows, but blindly respecting everyone society says deserves it is far from RP.

stacysmom40 6y ago

Can you clarify how immigration plays into your RPW views?

Not trying to instigate but my husband and I are likely more politically left than most here.

littleshroom 6y ago

Same here. I see no reason why socialist ideas and rpw can't exist in the same place. Feminism the way it has grown is a thing of one's liking, but everyone will agree to the dictionary definition, IMHO. Me and my husband, we live in Northern Europe and leftist/rpw ideas don't really clash for us. But you do you.

Lux_x_Aeterna 6y ago

I believe that the homeless and indigenous people here in Canada should be taken care of before we even think of accepting refugees from other countries. We barely have enough jobs or affordable housing for people currently living here!