There was a post up yesterday where the OP was distressed that men consider "daddy-issues" as a deal breaker. It reminded me that one of my 'deal breakers' was divorced parents. I was concerned that if a guy's parents were not married, he wouldn't take the relationship as seriously as I did.
In the end my husband is a child of divorce but his positive qualities and character make up for the impacts this has had. And it has had an impact on us. I'd certainly still advise my own loved ones to weigh this in the balance.
Everyone has different vetting criteria. What are your personal red-flags or deal breakers? What do you wish you'd paid more attention to in the past? Are there red flags that you would advise others to look for? be cautious of? what about yellow-flags? Married and LTRed ladies, did you push past any red flags to be with your SO? Single ladies, what are the red flags that you would avoid at all costs? What would make you end things immediately?

LRB2004 7y ago
Deal breakers- Children with more than one woman or more than one ex-wife. Having children without an official custody and support order. Any history of addiction or someone who regularly got drunk. Personal care and hygiene not being a priority. Not being at an age appropriate place in life. Serious mental health issues.
Red Flags- Not having long term friendships, living arrangements, or job history. Someone who claims to repeatedly be the victim of circumstance. - Lots of far fetched stories related to job loss, eviction, legal trouble, financial problems, etc. Someone who has noting positive to say about past partners or claims all previous partners were completely at fault when the relationship ended.
I did ignore or look past many of these things and it never ended well. By the time I met my husband I was very firm with all of these things. He had a similar list of deal breakers and red flags for women. We've been happily married for over 10 years.
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History of drug and alcohol abuse. (My fiance has never smoked a cigarette or tried a hard drug and his drinking habits mostly surrounded the fraternity parties in college.)
Temper problems. Getting angry is a normal human emotion but I won't be with a guy who handles his anger by cursing, yelling, name calling, breaking things, or being in any other ways threatening. (My fiance can hold frame like a boss in this department and doesn't believe in raising his voice to women.)
Lack of education, work ethic, and ambition are deal breakers. I can not respect a man without that competitive edge and drive to excel. My fiance has more education, had a higher GPA, and works in an industry that will always pay more than the areas I have interest in...if he was not the kind of man able to at minimum match my own education level and work ethic I do not think I would be able to respect him as much. Because of his education combined with personality traits I know that even if he hits a bad bump in the road with his career one day, he is not the kind of man who would be content to just coast.
Bad relationships with family and bitterness towards his mother are dealbreakers too. However, so is inability to set healthy boundaries with family. He needs to love his mom but be his own man.
Refusal to marry is another. The position of marriage being something he wanted down the line was totally fine to me (no need to rush things) but the stance of being totally closed off to marriage would have been a dealbreaker.
curious__kitty 7y ago
Dealbreakers for me:
1.) Addiction/ Substance abuse
2.) Pornography
3.) Infidelity
4.) Unable to drive
5.) Slovenly
I do not judge others, these are just my personal dealbreakers
Pixie0310 7y ago
- Men who can't face up to things - afraid to ask for a raise, afraid to call the landlord with an issue. Little things like this are symptoms of a larger issues.
- Men who are great buddies, but don't know how to put me in my place when I am totally out of line.
- Men who weren't open and forthcoming about their intentions (marriage, etc., always avoiding the convo)
- Some mutual acquaintances (female) approached me and "warned" me about him. The main one, turns out, kind of had a thing for him and was trying to keep him for herself. I wasn't sure at first, but still gave him a chance. Glad I did.
- If I'm totally honest, his temper was bad. It still flares up sometimes. But it's something I work with - and he works on it - and I love all of him, even though he's got his faults.
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suzannehatton 7y ago
Weird sexual requests (particularly a fascination with anal sex or wanting me to put things up his arse!)
Feminist/leftist views
Poor /inappropriate relationship with mother
Against marriage
Severe depression/ substance misuse
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HB3234 7y ago
In addition to some of the tried and true dealbreakers already listed, things for me that separate out good men from good men for ME:
It's important to realize what things are absolute musts for you own happiness. Those will vary dramatically from person to person.
I wish I'd vetted for a man who also wants a tegu, because I gave my heart and soul to a man who gets the heeby jeebies from lizards... Oh well. Small price to pay!
aftertheafter-party 7y ago
Deal breakers included:
- Never paid for sex or porn (I don't want a partner who has experienced sex in such a transactional way)
- Either never wanted a threesome or had already had one & was over it (no one with "threesome" on a bucket list)
- Not too active on social media (privacy is important to me)
- Not an adrenaline junky (no skydiving, etc. -- it's "never enough" for some people)
Must-haves:
- Physically active & cognizant about nutrition (physical health -> mental health; men with pent-up physical energy can act insane in my experience)
- High opinion of women generally (good relationships with female relatives, friends, coworkers, etc.; not embittered)
- High libido (sex is important to me)
- Likes spicy food (I like to cook, & if someone was super afraid of heat... I couldn't deal with it)
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I'm curious, how difficult is it to find people like that?
aftertheafter-party 7y ago
I've dated 5 of them, including my husband...
Other flags I missed that caused the end of the relationships that didn't last:
- Too caught up in "winning" ("ambition" is often disguised insecurity)
- Not ready for commitment (to anything -- relationship, job, city, etc.)
- Put me on a pedestal / thought I was out of their "league" (caused them to try to get the upper hand in a power dynamic that was all in their head, which caused me to lose trust)
- Different boundaries or definition of "ideal relationship"
- Not understanding that my sex drive is as powerful & important to me as theirs
ReefaShark 7y ago
I’m confused as to why number 2 is on the list. Certainly it’s understandable to not want to share your husband, but “has never wanted” is you fooling yourself, and while it’s not on the bucket list any more if he’s done it before, that doesn’t mean he doesn’t still want to.
aftertheafter-party 7y ago
It's pretty presumptuous to apply your kinks or fantasies as general rules : )
Additionally, a fantasy vs. wanting to do something are pretty different things. Sometimes I imagine that I would be quite a good actress -- & I'd really enjoy the "glamour" -- but, in reality, I don't want to travel so much or have such little control over my work schedule or privacy.
At any rate, my husband is an extremely private person & very risk-averse. That being said, I do my best to ensure he is not missing out on any experiences; I am only one person, but I have a 4 limbs & a very good imagination.
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ReefaShark 7y ago
Interesting points. Threesomes seem like if any kink did apply broadly it would be that one. I would certainly have difficulty believing your husband if he told me that with the option to have another woman present, he would not only avoid the situation, but be entirely averse to it. Thankfully, I don’t need to believe it for it to be real and/or be working for you.
Thanks for the response!
merel-- 7y ago
No cheaters and no broke men. Also love bombing (blegh) and getting too sexual too soon.
Spazzy19 7y ago
Deal breakers: Physically violent (toward people, animals or objects) out of anger Infidelity Allergic to cats (I already gave up my baby for my last marriage and won’t do that again). Addiction to substances/sex/gambling Mysogynistic Inflexible to self improvement or change/ inability to compromise Financial incompetence and instability Distrust/Privacy Violations
Red flags: Lives with parents Jealousy No car or drivers license Porn usage Bad familial relationships Inability to take responsibility for life situations/choices Rudeness toward others No job or regular job switching Criminal background High N count and general attitudes toward sex/intimacy Having children outside of marriage/long term relationships (or multiple mothers) No desire to marry or a need for pre-nup *Mental Health issues that aren’t being addressed
I have more plus yellow flags, but those are what I have time for currently.
Some things can depend for me based on circumstances and general attitudes.
King_Booga 7y ago
Deal breaker *Allergic to cats...
That's not a controllable factor though. It's cool though your choice
Spazzy19 7y ago
It’s not, but I’m making that choice because I’m not giving up my cats again. I’ve already dated two guys and married one allergic to them. My SO knew that after our first encounter discussing dealbreakers - little did I know he was previously fairly allergic to cats and was fretting about it. Interestingly enough, he forgot his meds he planned to take before coming to my house the first time and discovered he’s not allergic to mine. He loves them immensely and is very thankful it wasn’t an issue!
party_dragon 7y ago
There are two types of men... those who watch porn and those who lie.
Spazzy19 7y ago
Eh, I get where you’re coming from, especially because I was once married to a porn addict. My SO doesn’t claim to have been “porn free.” He’s in IT and used to have caches of it saved over years. But without my prompting or even knowledge until afterward, he deleted it all because he didn’t want it being a “back door” in our relationship. He wants to focus all his sexual energy on me and us.
Obviously it’s easy to stumble upon throughout the internet even without going to usual sites, but he chooses not to click images and put energy into it anymore.
I’ve looked at porn before and read literotica so it’s not something I feel with an attitude of “you’re going to hell,” but regular porn use takes away from relationships in my opinion and I’d prefer to avoid that if possible.
party_dragon 7y ago
Yeah, I agree with most of this; except I'd say, it's just as possible that porn is a symptom, not a cause, of relationship/sex problems (as in, if someone is 100% satisfied, they don't need porn).
Spazzy19 7y ago
Oh absolutely! My SO has stated that if he starts feeling the need to look at it then he’ll notify me immediately because it’s a sign there’s a problem/need not being met. But considering I’m a HL and we typically average at least once per day, frequency at least shouldn’t be an issue. I’m ecstatic to finally have a partner who’s sexually compatible with me and open to new things!
merel-- 7y ago
Everybody should get married with a pre-nup tho.
Spazzy19 7y ago
It’s a personal preference. I can see the wisdom of it for some people, but my partner and I feel that being financially vulnerable to one another brings us closer together. We’ve both been divorced (mine more amicable and fair than his), but still maintain the attitude that a pre-nup comes across as being distrustful of one another. To us it’s like saying “I trust you with my life/kids/whatever, but not with combining our assets completely!” Is it a risk? Absolutely, but I’m ok with that risk and aim to marry someone who wouldn’t seek to financially ruin me “just because he can.”
I don’t have an issue with anyone who chooses to have one in their marriage, but it’s just not something that I wish to have in mine.
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Dealbreakers:
Filthy home, bad hygiene. Lies and dishonesty. Talking negatively about his parents, family, even his exes. (However he treats his mother and father in particular is likely how he will treat me in 20-30 years if we become long-term) Terrible with money, spendthrift, constantly in debt and maxing out credit cards. Chain smoker or drug/alcohol abuser.
skeleflor 7y ago
So many of mine have already been covered. I don't really think it's fair to hold someone's childhood family situation against them. While I understand that a lot of bad behaviors are heritable and patterned, and that early unresolved emotional trauma can carry over into adulthood, I'd rather not judge a man by uncontrollable past circumstances. Instead, I try to look for evidence that he has overcome whatever struggles life has handed him. In fact, I find such resilient men on average more impressive and better "Captain" material than men who had ideal early life environments that left them untried.
Some of my dealbreakers:
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twothree :) more:Wicked_lovely4 7y ago
As a child of divorced parents, I don’t think it’s fair to have that as a deal breaker. Im not my parents and their mistakes are not mine. I would be hurt to think that my SO thought less of me because of their actions. I’m a RPW and hold traditional values even though my parents don’t.
With that said, “daddy issues” have a stereotype with them but it depends on the person. If a girls dad abused her or was simply not a good father, it’s not the girls fault and it shouldn’t be held against her. Although, if it had a serious affect on her that’s causing issues in her current life then I could see that being a problem.
I’m currently in a LTR and one thing my SO has had to push back to continue dating me was that I’m not a devout Christian. He really wanted a Christian girlfriend. My family is Christian and if asked, I’ll say I’m Christian as well but I don’t practice nor do I attend church every Sunday as he’d like. I’m sure religion is a deal breaker in other couples.
For me, my SO getting along with my family, having aligned political and moral beliefs, similar ideas/wants for the future, financially responsible, and taking his last name when we get married are requirements.
chillywaterphish 7y ago
Yeah my parents divorced when I was in college and see some post on here saying it's a deal breaker is a bit mean in a way. I can say I am far more responsible and level headed than most young people that grew up with perfect parents.
fosho_away 7y ago
Yeah, plus there are plenty of toxic or apathetic marriages that aren’t exactly great to emulate either.
girlwithabike 7y ago
One thing the red pill does not consider is fairness. Everyone is allowed their own criteria and the ability to be as flexible or not with it as they wish.
My ex also had divorced parents. His father cheated and left his mother for a woman he is still with today. They are far more compatible. It wasn't my ex's fault but it certainly impacted him. Among others things, he didn't have a good male role model because his mom was so angry and vitriolic about his father growing up. He didn't really understand his dad's side of things until he was in college.
This impacted our relationship in a couple ways. The first was that he cheated. The bigger issue than cheating, was that he was a weak man who needed to follow a woman. Lacking a male role model meant that he looked to the woman in his life to tell him what to do and how to behave. He ended up married to a woman who guides him around through life now.
So fair or not, his fault or not, this was certainly something that impacted who he is as a partner.
I agree though that everything depends on the person. I'm of the opinion that red flags mean you look at someone harder than you otherwise might. Too many red flags mean you move on from that man.
But the dating market is never going to be fair.
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girlwithabike 7y ago
That will vary from person to person. IMO the term gets thrown around a lot and quite easily. In the real world, there is nuance to any situation. A lot of people would say, for example, cheating on an ex is a red flag. For some people, this will certain be a relationship ending revelation, and for others it will depend on the how and the why of things.
So sure, literally a red flag means to stop then and there. But it's thrown out so liberally on advice subs that to me, it means you stop and look for additional behaviors to gain more insight into the person. I'm hard pressed to base any judgement of a person on one instance of anything.
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girlwithabike 7y ago
No. I did not mean metaphorically or figuratively. I meant literally. As in the literal definition. But thank you for telling me what I meant. I appreciate it. We're going to be great friends.
Mewster1818 7y ago
1.) Absolutely no current addiction or severe mental health issues. If someone has been successfully sober and committed to their sobriety for at least a year then I'm more open to considering them(people deserve second chances if they put the work in, imo) or has been taking care of their own mental health and therapy needs without supervision.
2.) Similar financial beliefs and practices to my own. Wasteful spending and excessive displays of wealth, are not only poor financial management but often gaudy.
3.) Must have clear goals in life that he is working toward. Goals like "I want to start my own business and this is how I want to do it" vs "I want to be a millionaire!".
4.) Must be independent, he doesn't need to be wealthy or well-off, but he must show a drive to handle his own affairs responsibly and within his own means.
Those are all the big red flags for me.
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girlwithabike 7y ago
My little bro is an addict (doing a lot better lately) and it's always blown my mind how many women over look this. Women are too forgiving when men say they want to do better and really should be waiting to see if he's actually doing better.
Mewster1818 7y ago
Yeah, I'm not going to think you're a bad person for having problems. But I'm not gonna help you row your boat unless I see proof that you have the personal responsibility to help yourself first.
supermermaidthing 7y ago
I’m that woman right now. I’ve been strung along for a year. He was doing coke at a family gathering this weekend— I’m done.
girlwithabike 7y ago
Good on you for deciding that. I hope it is as easily and painless for you as possible. Addiction is fucking hard. Addicts have the best of intentions and will charm you in the moment. They even believe their own bs a lot of the time. But they will turn around and betray you more often than not. They don't even necessarily want to betray you but they will. And it's easy to see the good person underneath and believe they'll get better. You just can't trust them until they have actually proven they are doing things to help themselves get better...consistently...for a while.
"You can turn your back on a person, but never turn your back on a drug..." - Hunter S Thompson
Good Luck!!
supermermaidthing 7y ago
Thank you so much! ♥️
[deleted] 7y ago
My deal breakers were:
No job (or no grown up job)
No car
Lives with parents
Overweight
Poor oral hygiene
Poor hygiene period.
Has serious anxiety and/or depression (that may be harsh, but I've been with a man who couldn't even leave the house and wanted a therapist not a girlfriend. It's not something I'd ever want to do again.
Comes from a culture so different that I would be disliked by his family and treated like an outsider, and our children would be without grandparents because of this...
I'm sure there's more but a lot of stuff I was always really flexible on.
Jikira 7y ago
My List:
Since I met my SO in college. My deal breakers were...
I have other deal breakers that are more flexible, but the minute I found out about these I lost interest in the guy.
[deleted] 7y ago
When I was in college I said I would never date a frat boy. I met my fiance a few years after he was out of college. Turned out he had been an officer in his fraternity for four years. I still have mixed feelings about the frat boy thing, but I decided he didn't overly embody the things I disliked about that culture.
likeaprometheancurse 7y ago
Violence or aggression in any way. Stingy. Gets caught up in "drama" despite being an adult. Doesn't like animals (idc if they want pets or not but not connecting with animals is a huge red flag to me). And of course, having different fundamental values from me.
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I had a very rough, poor, often horrific childhood, so I'm in no position to judge based on a person's past and don't go by that at all. Most of the people I know have really been through some shit. To diverge a bit, I've also only had one friend in my life who had married parents so I feel like it would honestly shock me to meet someone from a completely healthy household. And that right there is the reason I subscribe to this sub, because I want to break the cycle I've seen throughout my life. :) I feel like I've never had a community where people really valued having a put-together home life and I just realized how glad I am to have found RPW.
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girlwithabike 7y ago
My ex once grew mold in a water glass. This wasn't a general red flag with him as he was cleaner than most 22 year old men, but to this day I haven't figured out how he did that.
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shrinkshooter 7y ago
I said they weren't. The things listed, like I stated, are reasonable standards to hold. I made my post to make it clear that one be cognizant of the fact it is all too common for a woman to start with reasonable standards, and gradually pile on more and more unreasonable ones while believing that they're reasonable and overestimating her SMV.
I made my post as a public warning against this, because it happens too often. Like I also said, you're on RPW, so this is definitely something you should already be conscious of. When you encounter a woman in the real world who starts laying out a long list of expectations, it's usually a red flag. I'm not calling you one of them, I'm pointing out this sort of thing happens so those who read this realize it and DON'T do that.
edit: and by "these dealbreakers" I wasn't talking about your list specifically, I meant "these" as in "a general list of dealbreakers you'd see if you polled all women," or something along those lines. A broad concept of dealbreakers as a whole, not the ones you provided.
girlwithabike 7y ago
What on her list do you think falls under "insanely delusional high standards?" It sounds like a pretty typical list to determine solid character.
shrinkshooter 7y ago
Read my post again because you're misinterpreting it. It was only the second sentence.
LuckyLittleStar 7y ago
After re-reading your post several times, I determined that your intended point wasn't made clear. It is your job to make your posts clear.
girlwithabike 7y ago
I see.
cynicalhousewife 7y ago
A man who is nasty or violent. A man who is overly emotional or sentimental and has too many petty expectations.
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girlwithabike 7y ago
If you don't mind sharing, why "in the military"? I never encountered military men in my dating life so I'm genuinely curious.
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indiareef 7y ago
Being with a man in the military is a different road and takes a different woman for it to be good and work well. Even being prior enlisted myself, I find it hard to deal with the requirements of being an officer’s wife because the rules aren’t as hard set and there is a lot of drama from the other wives. That being said...I love our military life and don’t mind the distance when required because I know it isn’t personal. But it’s smart when you know in advance you just aren’t built for it.
LivelyWallflower 7y ago
What are the requirements of being an officer's wife? Could you explain what you mean by 'drama?'
indiareef 7y ago
Well nothing official outside of being married to an officer. But depending on the unit, the wives form very strict cliques and have their own hierarchy. Pilots wives usually put themselves at the top. Medical officers wives usually don’t play games because they tend to be professionals themselves. Some units are more insular and require participation in unit activities like booster club, etc. And wives generally don’t like prior military wives with no children because we don’t fit in with the group and usually can hang with the military members so it’s not exactly liked. Spouses are gone a lot, more some than others. Time for attention is at a premium. Standards are high for everyone. And women who live on base and have a lot of time on their hands tend to cause issues. Not all...but it happens and it can get really irritating.
lensneko 7y ago
For me:
RinoaRita 7y ago
Lives with parents can be ok if they’re saving money so they can get a house for their future family. It’s different between mooching off parents vs sacrificing the present to save for the future. But if they have no plans to it’s a deal breaker.
lensneko 7y ago
Living with his parents would be awkward since being intimate with each other would be awkward around them. I prefer that my fiance owned property that we can live on by ourselves.
Also, a man living with his parents for financial reasons does not look alpha at all since it indicates economic weakness and thus a possible inability for him to provide for me and my future children. I'm rather repulsed the aforementioned beta trait since it shows that he's still a boy, not a man.
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RinoaRita 7y ago
After a certain age that makes sense but there’s some grace period if you’re just graduated from college. If you’re 40 and living at home that’s more alarming than right after college and saving so you have a cushion.
lensneko 7y ago
I agree with that but you're missing the point of what I'm trying to say in terms of deal breakers. As of right now, I'm not looking to date someone in their 30s and 40s since I'm in my late teens. I know I'm thinking ahead in life and I expect my man to be a strong provider who does not cave into pressure, especially in financial difficulties.
Hammocknapping 7y ago
Here is the list of realistic expectations I had when I was looking for a husband:
Must be male
Must be my age or older, with a preference for men 5 years older
Must not be showing signs of hair loss, with a preference for thick, light color hair
Must have received good dental and orthodontic care
Must eat meat and animal products, and not be a picky eater
Must be at least 6 inches taller than myself, so at at least 5’8
Must be interested in physical fitness, but not to the degree of being “ripped” or overly muscular
Must have a 4 year degree, which was not obtained online, with a strong preference for additional, professional degree(s)
Must be goal oriented, have a public service mindset, and passionate about their career choice
Must have conservative values, including a similar financial background
Must come from at least middle class background, with a very strong preference for upper middle class
Must be comfortable with the prospect of not having children
Must be comfortable with my commitment to my career
Those were my “Musts,” which does not include more subtle character traits such as a sense of humor or the ability to communicate their emotions. Those things can take over a year to figure out, and my “Musts” were limited to things that I could figure out in the period before monogamy and physical interaction.
I was quickly able to weed out men thanks to my “Musts” list, but it certainly did not weed out so many that my dating pool was small.
I ran background checks on all dates before meeting them, so I was able to weed out anyone with a criminal record or someone who seemed to move frequently.
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That's very detailed. Have you found this guy yet?
[deleted] 7y ago
Oh I see you said when I was looking so I guess you have?
Hammocknapping 7y ago
Yes! I actually never felt like my “Musts” limited my ability to date.
thatbadlarry 7y ago
Hair loss is a dealbreaker? Jesus. You must be very young.
Hammocknapping 7y ago
I don’t think that’s any different from a man having a preference for blondes or women with long, curly hair.
thatbadlarry 7y ago
Preference and dealbreakers are completely different.
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What happens though if he loses his hair as he ages like many men do?
Hammocknapping 7y ago
If everything else is the same? Nothing, but we will have years of attraction built up. My standards for my husband of 40 years are naturally different than what I was looking for in a guy in his late 20s.
I wasn’t interested in a guy who was already balding in his late 20s.