Just saw this article pop up in one of my news feeds, you folks seen it? Thought you might find it interesting. You gals are like a cultural phenomenon in your own right now ... not sure calling you "MRAs" is really accurate though. Some of the other stuff is maybe not completely off. Thoughts?
This community was created as a harbor for RP minded women whose goal is to build a lasting and happy relationship with a great man.
Created by LuckyLittleStar

wizacre 10y ago
The author of that piece may be struggling to come to grips with the feminine aspects of his own identity.
He may find the feminine side of RP appealing as a guide for understanding his own feelings toward men.
delores_rose 10y ago
How could the author think we are focused on MRA? Did they not read the FAQ? And why leave out the simple basic truth that men are gatekeepers of commitment, women of sex. The author could have explained that our goal here is focused on sexual strategy that will more likely lead to commitment, and supporting women to build happy marriages. Could have also explained how modern feminism is working against women by devauling sex, wasting their prime years, etc.I guess the truth is too "shaming" and 'problematic" for their feminist readers
always-be-closing 10y ago
When a group of people aren't your allies and are those of some other group you don't like, call them collaborators.
But if they're too close in identity to the group of people you claim to represent and fight for, then you have to insinuate that they've been taken in, and duped. That comes with the risk of calling them (and by extension, the group you claim to fight for) stupid.
So, you have to specifically denigrate their worth, and assign to them a moral deficiency and self-hatred - - then you've reestablished the reason they are collaborators, and the reason collaborators are bad.
If a black Supreme Court justice doesn't spout progressive opinions and use his vote to write laws? He's an Uncle Tom.
if a poor white person doesn't vote for Democrats? They're a dumb redneck - - or a racist!
ETC.
If women don't embrace 'progressive feminism', you can't quite accuse them of hating women, so you insinuate that they're the 'harem', the 'groupies' of men who do hate women, and are thus loathesome themselves.
source: Went to a sophisticated university that churns out this kind of drivel non-stop
Camille11325 10y ago
I didn't find this article to be that accurate or well researched - just look at the title. I personally do not identify with the MRA movement and neither do a lot of the most active contributors to this subreddit. I have no idea who he spoke to to get quotes (if he didn't just make them up entirely) but the women made RPW seem like a space for super religious women when in fact most of the users here are not religious and a significant portion don't care about being homemakers or other traditional and/or stereotypical feminine pursuits. I already ranted in IRC and to M about the piece so I don't really have much to say since I expended the energy this morning haha but ladies please let us mods know if you are approached by a journalist in the future!
[deleted] 10y ago
The article portrayed all rpw to be 50's housewives when that's not what this is at all. I often feel like I'm in the minority for having kids and being a sahm because so many rpw have careers! The author was intentionally misleading.
MasterBassion 10y ago
Huh. I don't frequent this place (I'm subscribed and drop in from time to time, mainly because I like to have sources of different viewpoints come across my frontpage fairly often), but this article reads like a intentional misrepresentation of nearly every topic it touches on. I have seen some salient and well thought out advice administered here.
shrug
Just an outsiders 2 cents. Back to your regularly scheduled programming.
ReclaimingFeminity 10y ago
All I really have to say about this article is the mods will most likely need to step up their game over the course of the next few days. Trolls tend to flood subreddits following any kind of article.
TempestTcup 10y ago
Until the last hour or so we have not had any sort of traffic from that article and it has been out for at least 24 hours. We don't need to step up our game, we get tons of trolls constantly; we are used to removing posts, comments, and banning at all hours of day and night. I still don't think we have gotten traffic from that article; the recent traffic has most likely come from another post here on reddit.
*yep, at least two other subs have linked this article recently, and one is here now lurking and I assume will be brigading soon.
StingrayVC 10y ago
Groan.
People who work at lower paying jobs make less than people working at higher paying jobs? You don't say.
The rest was ok. He seemed to be trying so hard to be fair, but he couldn't help but let some disdain shine through with his word choices. Oh well. I will give him a little credit for trying.
montereybay 10y ago
"This is a group about gender issues. Let's use a statistic about race!"
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Camille11325 10y ago
Agreed I am not happy with how our community was depicted.
StingrayVC 10y ago
Maybe I should be more clear.
When one is used to seeing anything RP depicted at 0 and someone then depicts it at 2, that is the best I've seen. The 2 (out of 10). It still sucks, but it is better than the 0.
Camille11325 10y ago
True a "2" is better than a 0! I wish they wouldn't write about us at all though haha
StingrayVC 10y ago
Oh, I disagree. I love when they write about us. Sure, many people just jump on the "Hate the Red Pill" bandwagon. But there are a few who will come here out of curiosity and see that what he wrote and what we really are are two different things.
This accomplishes 2 things. 1) These people usually stay and learn more. Hopefully their relationships improve because of this. 2) More people wake up to the lies the mainstream media tell to further their agenda.
It's a win-win.
EDIT: What I do wish, is that when women are approached from the media about an interview they would give a resounding NO. I'm more upset that some women agreed to this interviewed than I am about the article. That was stupid. And I will fully admit, it could be completely made up.
Camille11325 10y ago
You're right, there are definitely benefits to the exposure that these types of articles give us!
YES! He described talking on the phone with one person which makes me super doubtful that anyone actually agreed to speak to him. Either way, talking to "journalists" never leads to an honest, balanced, and well researched article about the subreddit so women should learn from the previous posts and just avoid interviews all together.
[deleted] 10y ago
If the women in the article are real, I hope they feel thoroughly embarrassed.
I don't know what else could be done however. We have posted warnings about this in the past, told users to be wary and contact the Moderating team if anyone approaches them with questions.
StingrayVC 10y ago
I agree they should feel embarrassed, but there is only so much you can do. They made the choice for themselves. If real. . . .
StingrayVC 10y ago
As far as it goes, that's one of the most fair mainstream articles I've read. Says a lot, doesn't it?
LauraXVII 10y ago
Some ideas. Not all. I'm an engineer and the idea that someone would downgrade all my work just because I'm female I'm a male-dominated industry horrifies me. RPW is about becoming more feminine in the appropriate situations, not all situations.
[deleted] 10y ago
Wow! that article was not very fair to the RPW. I read here all the time, and I couldn't tell if anyone was an MRA or not.
"They" hate MRAs, so lumping RPW in with them is a sub-com to shape their readers opinions about what RPW. Hopefully, some will come here and find out about the real RPW instead of being "informed" by this propaganda piece.
TempestTcup 10y ago
Yes we saw this article first thing this morning and it has been posted all day on the IRC. I suspect that we have given the article much more traffic than it would have seen without it being posted here and on the IRC. We haven't gotten an increase in traffic from it at all.
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[deleted] 10y ago
This sub is against feminism. Regardless of anything else the article says - they did get that part right.
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[deleted] 10y ago
From the sidebar:
What part of "anti" and "non" feminist is unclear to you?
Stupidity 'by degrees' still qualifies as idiotic.
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[deleted] 10y ago
Discuss sexual strategy from a non-feminist and anti-feminist...viewpoint.
It's about sexual strategy - not talking about whether feminism is good/useful. This sub is anti feminist. There is no discussion to be had about the merits of feminism here. The rest of the internet can be used to that end. This is a feminist-free zone. A 'safe space' from all the weird fem-bot moralizers.
I'm not offended, I am concerned that a user in this community harbors weird delusional notions that feminism is somehow supposed to be welcomed and/or entertained here.
Read the side-bar and understand the wiki.
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torrso 10y ago
Does feminism continuously rail against the rights of men?
[deleted] 10y ago
Yes.
[deleted] 10y ago
Is that a serious question?
torrso 10y ago
Hardly a question.
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We are clearly trying to understand your question, so why not just explain yourself? Enough with the mysteriousness already.
torrso 10y ago
Definining men's rights activism as a movement that tries to take away women's rights doesn't sound fair. The attempt to point that out via role reversal wasn't a success.
"Yes" was the answer I was looking for, but I doubt the author of the original article would've said that out loud.
Edit: Well yes, I realize that taking away unnecessary / unfair special rights from one group could sometimes be a better solution than giving the unnecessary / unfair right to the other side also if equal rights are pursued. So the question was stupid and I'm stupid and should feel bad.
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Feminism was started by women than decided the way things were wasn't fair and that they should be able to do men's jobs. They were the ones who decided that their role in life wasn't enough and wasn't fair, that it wasn't fulfilling and that men had it better than them. Fast forward to today where women do have careers in any field they want but refuse to take on the male responsibilities that come with it and it leads to an imbalance in the home. Suddenly the woman's job needs to be divvied up, suddenly the stresses from the woman's work day needs to be taken in to account. No one is looking out for the other or to take care of the other. When there isn't someone in making sure that people are kept happy and fulfilled, affairs start, divorces start. Tell me the dramatic rise in divorces over the past few decades is not directly related to women entering the workforce in droves.
I'm not saying women can't have careers because I know lots of women on rpw would take great offense to that. I am saying that if both people are focusing on their careers, who's looking out for the relationship? Why does it have to be the woman making the sacrifices blah blah. The only women who think men aren't making sacrifices are the ones who haven't stopped to think about all men do in their daily lives. Feminists and SJW's can go and rail against everything I just said and it would be so easy to pick apart my argument because it's not politically correct, but I will tell you that myself, my husband and my home have not been this happy and harmonious in all my marriage since I swallowed the red pill last year.