How many of you came to your realizations about The Red Pill without being in a relationship already (i.e. when you were single)? If so, what made you reach these conclusions? If not, did your partner influence you toward The Red Pill? Or was it something else entirely like coming across the subreddit, seeing a youtube clip or reading a book?
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DelphineSerafine 12y ago
I've been lurking here for a while, and I found the subreddit through another. As to how I came to identify with RPW, well, my husband. He'd proposed to me, and we were hashing out the logistics of what would be our married life. He made it clear to me that even from that moment, he considered us a family, and that he was the head of that family. He made it clear that yes, he'd talk to me and consult me on all decisions, but ultimately, he felt that if our relationship was going to work, the final say had to be his.
I will admit, I struggled with this like crazy. I was brought up in a feminist household. Told I didn't have to get married if I didn't want to, that no man should ever come first in my life, etc etc. I resisted my husband's desires, and wanted an "equal" relationship, where I "get" as much say as he does. Then he asked me if I trusted him. And I said that of course I did. I wouldn't want to marry him if I didn't. So if I trusted him enough to make a life with him, why didn't I trust him enough to make decisions for our mutual benefit?
The more I thought about it, the more I realized he was right. The more I looked back on my previous relationships and how they'd failed, the more I realized he was right. I'd been in relationships where "me" was more important than "us" or "him". They were ugly, and frankly, not at all what I wanted (I could relate to the Joy Luck Club clip someone posted a while ago!).
And now? Well, here I am... :)
TempestTcup 12y ago
Welcome to our community!
DelphineSerafine 12y ago
Thank you! :)
I have to admit, it is a struggle sometimes still, particularly when I don't agree with a decision he makes (my profession is very male-dominated, and I am very used to being in control, professionally), but, I know what makes him happy, so I do what I can to control those urges.
[deleted] 12y ago
I instinctively wanted this kind of relationship. I wanted to make my boyfriend feel good about himself and I have ALWAYS wanted to be a good cook for my eventual family and such things. Always thought sleeping with lots of guys makes you a whore. Always knew I want children eventually.
My previous long term relationship crashed and burned and I never wanted that experience again. So I had gotten into a relationship with a much older man and was looking for literature on that and on relationships in general that arent "equal" or whatever it was that I typed into google after some thought on what I wanted. I think I ended up on feminist websites and they were slamming Red Pill.
So naturally, I checked out Red Pill and realized that A) I failed with my ex because he never once would take charge and it turned me into the classic bitch, and B) that my current relationship is going so well because my man is naturally RP. I have since then applied even more RP to our relationship and its wonderful. We both have never met someone who is open to the type of relationship we have. We never have arguements, he never disappoints me, I never nag him nor do I want to, great sex, mutual trust and commitment, its all there. Im never going back, ever.
scallopkid 12y ago
I always thought I accepted the "just be yourself" and "love yourself, you're perfect" lines, but I guess while other women had taken them to mean "you get a free pass to be completely selfish," I always just took them to mean "be genuine and confident." I noticed the crap lots of "empowered" women do, and it often irritated me. I had few female friends because I never wanted to listen to them hamster. I don't know exactly how I got to be that way but a few factors I think helped were that I have a good relationship with my father and we never had cable.
I found TRP and then RPW by stumbling into SRS somehow, and looking at their baddies list. Ever since I was old enough to be interested in guys, I was very open to trying to be the kind of girl they wanted. Before TRP though, I was going about it completely wrong; I was trying to be just one of the guys. But since I came from a mentality of trying to be appealing, once I found RPW it was easy for me to adjust to.
DevilishRogue 12y ago
Really? You think this made a difference? I've not heard that as an issue before.
Do you think that non-RP guys aren't clear about the difference between what they actually want and what they think they should want and so gave you bad advice?
scallopkid 12y ago
I've seen it mentioned a few times. Cause there's so much crap on cable showing girls how to behave poorly. I never watched a lot of tv as a kid.
I'm not sure how true that is. When I was in highschool it seemed like guys wanted popular girlfriends to make themselves look good, or they wanted sluts. I guess there were a few girls who where a little RP, but not enough for me to notice a pattern without having it shown to me. I think the things that really gave me the wrong ideas were the "what guys really want" articles and Facebook chain letters which I suspect were written by women.
[deleted] 12y ago
i wasnt a feminist and experienced reality
margerym 12y ago
I already had Red Pill-like leanings. Years before I had read up on wifely submission both in kink and in "reality" and decided it was for us. But when my husband started reading Red Pill Room and I saw it over his shoulder I decided to investigate more. While he was at work I dug more into it than we had a conversation about how it encompassed what we had been thinking/feeling for a long long time- relationship hierarchy based in nature and reality vs. play/kink. The closest we had come was Taken In Hand but even that wasn't exactly jiving with us. What I loved the most was that it was honest about The Wall, desire, attraction, etc. Most places, especially the kink places, were all about how everyone is beautiful no matter what and if your husband disagrees he's a bastard, etc. I always respected a man more that would look at the weight and I gained and say "You're fat, you're unattractive, you can do better." But I value honesty. And reality.
I'm just rambling now but that's the gist of it.
DevilishRogue 12y ago
Thanks for the responses so far, it's interesting to see the contrasts between how you've come to where you are. Are the downvotes in the thread just from trolls with nothing better to do or are there dissenting views that haven't been raised yet?
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FleetingWish 12y ago
It was my boyfriend who introduced me to it, and helped me through it.
RPGoon 12y ago
I'm curious how he went about doing that? If I find a girl who I think is worth and LTR, how would I bring these things up?
FleetingWish 12y ago
Well, it was a very slow process. He started out by tossing red pill nuggets of wisdom at me every now and then. He likes to talk teach me about lots of different things, gender differences was just one of them. Sometimes it would be in the context of a real person (this is why their relationship isn't working) and sometimes it would be in the context of relationships in general. And I tended to agree with him, I maybe hadn't thought of it that way, but what he talked about made a lot of sense. It made sense in the context of all the relationships I had known in my life.
Then at some point he told me his reddit username, and I saw his posts on the red pill. At this point I had no idea what the red pill was, never having heard of it, I was curious so I read the side bar. The article I read was on how women could never love men the way they needed to be loved. Rather than be angry, which I think would be most women's reaction, it made me sad. I didn't know how much of it he believed, but it made me think he felt unloved by me. I didn't want him to think that, but I already loved him so much, I didn't know how I could love him any more, or express it in a better way. I didn't want him living in a world where he felt unloved.
At some point we had a conversation about it, about what he did and did not believe. About how a lot of the red pill men were very angry for being treated so bad by women, because most of them had never met a woman like me.And I felt sorry for them. I wanted them to have faith again with women, and see that there were some of us who still cared about them. So from then on I started learning as much as I could.
RPGoon 12y ago
Awesome. Thanks for your input.
sugarcrush 12y ago
I'm not sure I ever "became" red pill... it was more something I already knew, both instinctively and through being raised in a fairly red pill manner (thanks parents!). It was then was put into words/theories and expanded upon when I discovered trp community.
[deleted] 12y ago
My boyfriend introduced me to TRP about a month into our relationship (probably less). I spent a lot of time mulling it over, but I never invested much into the thought until late last month, which is when I started lurking the threads here after remembering I had a reddit profile to begin with.
So, yes, I'd attribute him as being my influence towards TRP, otherwise I'd still be an angry feminist.
DevilishRogue 12y ago
What was it that convinced you? What do you think might help convince other angry feminists?
[deleted] 12y ago
I'm a very logical and rational person, but I also realized I had faults, so it clicked with me immediately. My boyfriend was also naturally more dominant, so I slipped into the submissive role fairly easily. Others, though, may not have as little trouble as I did with transitioning to TRP. I always had some problems with the way feminism worked and saw its faults before I was even introduced to TRP.
I actually also recently converted a friend, though I had to go fast because she kept firing questions at me. She was the type that reacted harshly at first but after mulling it over, she confessed she agreed with the theory.
Edit: To answer your second question, I'd say the help of a man of influence in their life won't be of any harm. It often helps to hear it from someone they care about. The first step is getting them to realize they are making mistakes and behaving badly, but it has to be done gently at first, otherwise they may just lash out and never return to thinking about it. If they already recognize they make the mistakes, then it's time to explain to them how they can begin fixing them to either help their current relationship or start a new one with a good man. They must learn to realize they can't have it all without having to make some changes first.
DevilishRogue 12y ago
Did the same fundamental approach for you work for her, do you think, or did she need to come to it differently?
How you've described the process I think is quite interesting; trusted partner, gently explaining why things aren't working, fixing them together. It's almost like mentoring.
[deleted] 12y ago
Well, basically I just read TRP myself when my boyfriend linked me to it. My friend and I got into a discussion, and I just started talking about it. I had to pretty much run through it, though. As I said, she kept asking more and more questions and debating with me, so I kept it up too.
Unlike me, she quit talking to me for a few days. Later apologized for sounding as if she was angry. However, she did the same thing in regards to thinking about it on her own instead of asking more questions. I left my SO out and he didn't realize how deep in I was until I started using RP terms and could easily talk to him about RP subjects.
I argue mentoring is the best process, at least for women. We're more emotional, so working together and using therapy-style techniques does more good. Men can just read it and swallow it because they've already had at least a vague notion of its truth.
Of course, everyone's process is different. In my experience with myself and the two friends I've converted (working on a third), the process I used worked well to begin the journey of self-improvement.
stiletto_vodka 12y ago
Well, I was familiar with PUA from watching that hilarious reality show on MTV and reading Neil Strauss's book on the culture. As pathetic as I found the men to be intrinsically, not to mention the low-hanging fruit they were all pursuing, I did respect the "strategy" of it all.
I stumbled on TRP when I was skimming some feminist subreddits for inspiration on a paper I was writing (about antifeminism LOL). Without fail, there was at least one comment or post slamming TRP for being misogynist. I went straight over there and just started reading. Of course there were the bitter men, the players, and a few misogynists, but none of this shocked me because I was used to PUA and every group has its crazy fringe. Overall, I appreciated the honesty there. The men were angry because women weren't acting like women or allowing men to act like men. I agree and, to an extent, sympathized with their plight.
Then I found RPW and went to a Sephora-and-Nutella heaven (girliness is next to godliness). I was at the perfect point in my life for RPW to speak to me: transitioning away from manipulative and emotionally empty relationships with men and preparing myself for the grueling but rewarding work of actually being selective and only spending my time with men who valued me and demonstrated value to me in return. I love RPW because it seems so serene and sisterly here; we ask questions and we have debates but we ultimately all want each other to find a good man and treat him right so we both have a chance for maximum happiness. It seems way more pro-woman than any feminist forum I've ever been on, which has only been judgmental of my feelings about male-female dynamics and my pride in my pretty.
/sappiness
DevilishRogue 12y ago
What do you think the difference is between yourself (someone who was able to empathize with and appreciate the honesty of TRP) and those who browse feminist subreddits yet mock or deride TRP?
stiletto_vodka 12y ago
Well, I'm antifeminist. So immediately I don't identify with feminist anything. I don't mock or deride anything TRP does because a man being RP doesn't make him a RPM. Some RP topics have nothing to do with me so I ignore them. Everyone has different maturity levels.
I think feminists expecting uniform behavior from men (without doing a DAMN thing themselves) are the pinnacle of that sort of social immaturity.
DevilishRogue 12y ago
You sound pretty cool!
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DevilishRogue 12y ago
MMSL?
I thought RPW was about adopting strategies to make a relationship work, so whilst the submissive thing is a norm it's not a prerequisite?
[deleted] 12y ago
www.marriedmansexlife.com kind of like trp for couples
It is about adopting strategies based in the knowledge of the red pill regarding the sexes, not just any strategies with the goal being obtaining commitment from a man you consider higher value, not beneath you
berryokt 12y ago
I come from a family where the women are very submissive to their husbands. I learned about Gorean philosophy pretty young and when I found the redpill subreddit, it was pretty similar in certain ways. My husband came from a feminist mother and was completely beta but had desires to be a more dominant man. I told him what I wanted to be and he instantly got into it, once he realized that he wasn't alone in these beliefs. Now we are a very fulfilled couple that incorporates gorean, redpill and domestic discipline into our relationship.
[deleted] 12y ago
As sugarcrush said - a lot of the RP/RPW ideas simply dove-tailed with beliefs and morals I had always had. My SO introduced me to reddit, and all the RP subs. It was wonderful, and this community has been extremely important to me ever since.
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