is mainstream that lots of men think "I want a traditional female to provide for her like a slave and she to stay at home doing nothing just cleaning and cooking"
This thinking that "traditional woman" means doing nothing but some cleaning and cooking and be a parasite on the man, is stupid.
Just imagine, if the "traditional female" would live alone, wouldn't she need to do the cleaning and cooking anyway and on top of that have a real job to be able to survive?
Females always worked hard on all the history.
They worked in the fields, in the garden, had 10 kids to care, cleaning clothes was hard, nothing was automated, water was hard to get, and the amount of effort of females was similar to men.
There wasn't never in the history a time like the last decades where some females have all their work automated and just be a parasite on the man.
So stop calling the prostitution of nowadays "Traditional".
Traditional is a female that work hard everyday together with her man and still being submissive, obedient and loyal to her man without thinking she is a princess and the man her slave provider.
No-Stress-Cat 2mo ago
What are you talking about?
As men, we know there's no such thing as a "traditional" woman. At least, not in the last 4 generations. Maybe Gen-B might come out with some tradwives, but anything before that is nothing but a thrown-away feminist too old to ride the CC or outcast and left behind by the Sisterhood.
Or were you talking to women? This should go on the FDS board instead.
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No-Stress-Cat 2mo ago
Now I see where you're coming from. You're under the impression that men following their biological instincts to protect and provide is equivalent to "slavery." Basically, this is a reverse-feminism view, similar to how feminists equate women cooking, cleaning, and raising a family in a loving and nurturing home with "slavery." I suppose your perspective could be considered as Meninist, or reflective of a male-superiority complex.
It's not mainstream that lots of men think that. It may appear that way to you, but that's because you're stuck inside your own bubble. Yes, there are a lot of simps out there, and likewise a lot of Red Pill men. From what I've seen, the Red Pill has taken a hold, has gained a lot of traction, and is becoming more and more prominent in today's society. The evidence is that women are screeching about where the good men have gone, and becoming victims of their own stupidity after hitting the wall.
You have to admit, men have been quite innovative over the centuries. Where once we plowed the fields with oxen and a wooden plow, now we have huge farm tractors that can plow hundreds of acres in a day. Where once we had to build buggys for horses to pull to get around, we have high-tech cars that practically drive themselves to get us where we want to go. Where once we had to saw, and drill, and cut by hand to build what we needed, we now have computers and robots and automated cookie-cutter assembly systems to do all that with the push of a button. Women aren't the only ones who have it easier than our ancestors did.
There are hoes out there and they are effectively prostitutes in one form or another. That's not the case for every woman though. You are mistaking what are called transactional relations as prostitutional relations. They may seem similar, but are not the same. The difference is that regular women are transactional with a specific man, sluts are transactional with certain MEN, and prostitutes are transactional with EVERY man. Likewise, men are also transactional with whichever category of women they are involved with.
My advice to you is that instead of coming up in here and telling other people what to do, is to gain a little perspective, learn how the real world works, and in the meantime stop whining about shit you have no control over. You gotta just roll with the times, and look out for what's in YOUR best interest. Everyone else will be just fine.
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First-light 2mo ago
It depends what you are defining as "traditional"
In the past and in some traditional societies today in the world women work very hard and are a real asset to a man. I don't think we are talking about these women or these societies. We are talking about western society and affluent Muslim (mostly Arab) society .
Here we mean a woman staying home while a man works. In western society life is so easy that there is just nothing much to do for a woman who stays home. The house normally has no land attached, just a small ornamental garden. Cooking and cleaning and washing are done by machines. Many married couples have no or one child. The average birth rate is well below 2 children. A man can do the work of a woman and still hold down his job. Single mothers can hold down a job and raise children.
A woman supported by a man is a luxury in the west and in affluent Arab society. She brings nothing to him he can't get for himself for less trouble than half an hour a day.
Women have been riding on what their grandmothers (in many case great great grandmothers) did, when they were the heart of a family and kept the home fires burning.