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ReddditmodsRtrash 3y ago
god bless
i wish all men did this
MetroidJunkie 3y ago
Angry Joe was recently accused of inappropriate crap and his response was to immediately lawyer up and hit her with a cease and desist.
staytrue1985 3y ago
lol trying to afford my house and retirement. lawyers are fucking expensive and sketchy
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His label is probably helping to keep is his PR positive.
GrumpyGayGuy 3y ago
I have actually been trying to find lawyers who are MRA friendly who take on pro bono false accusation cases, but sadly I haven't found any yet.
JackSynn 3y ago
That's because Pro Bono is readily available for women only.
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ReddditmodsRtrash 3y ago
Cause men who are falsely accused are losers?
Get the fuck out of here you sack of shit
mariusalb 3y ago
No you horse manure. The ones who don’t take any actions against those bitchs are losers.
ReddditmodsRtrash 3y ago
fair enough
i think english is your second language or something, no worries
mariusalb 3y ago
Bingo
LotBuilder 3y ago
The innocent guys that have the ability to fight back should feel obligated to do so. If there are repercussions for false claims they will become less frequent. They don’t get free reign to destroy men’s lives for petty reasons.
Dean_Clean 3y ago
This is a good point. Men are going to have yo stand together to make a dent in this kind of bullshit if we are to be able to deal with how well women tend to coalesce around social issues.
LotBuilder 3y ago
Liars hate depositions. Let them know that if they throw some fake claims at you they will be spending 8 hours in the hot seat backing up those claims and having their life examined. You are not going out with a whimper, you are going to fight to clear your name.
Dean_Clean 3y ago
Exactly right. I've had to take measures to be less engaging at work because of a stupid (outright lie) rumor by a woman I was responsible for training. She was telling other females that I was giving her preferential treatment and going out drinking with her after hours. I don't drink anymore. I immediately hit the nuclear button and had HR launch an investigation and I had to clear my name. Good career reputations don't come easily and must be defended sternly.
airinnnn_n 3y ago
This warms my heart. I've seen multiple men who were falsely accused and couldn't do anything but stand by their side and support them. I hope this makes some females realise that their actions leads to consequences.
ETA: It's crazy how some girls are so crazy they blame him for bringing up his ex gf when he was trying to prove he wasn't there. How else is he suppose to show his credibility?? Jesus christ
Deathbysugar2020 3y ago
Did you see her tweet? Beiber shows proof that he didn't assault her, and she accuses him of "discrediting her assault". Yes, he did show evidence that he didn't do it, what else is he supposed to do if he's innocent?
airinnnn_n 3y ago
Yes. I literally stated my disbelief at people who came after him for showing evidence lol
Greg_W_Allan 3y ago
From ten years ago. If there's a reason for his obviously good record keeping this is probably it. For this woman's claim to be true she would have committed statutory rape.
https://www.theguardian.com/music/2011/nov/17/justin-bieber-paternity-suit-withdrawn
I must admit the number of middle aged women in his early audiences creeped me the hell out.
JayPlaysBeamNG 3y ago
Yeah wtf, how isn’t this considered pedophilia? If, say, Billie Eyelash’s early concerts had had large turnouts of middle aged men, something would’ve been suspicious.
tdreampo 3y ago
Honestly he runs a massive business as all big artists do. The record keeping is probably just good accounting.
Greg_W_Allan 3y ago
Good advisors. He started young.
-WolfChop- 3y ago
If they are guilty they should be charged the same as Justin would’ve been if he actually assaulted them. Probably won’t though seeing as they’re women.
Bob_Troll 3y ago
There needs to be heavy consequences for false allegations for crimes like this
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FrogTrainer 3y ago
uhh, it's called evidence.
MaxMantaB 3y ago
Right? I would understand if we didn’t have all the digital evidence in the world, but it’s really easy to prove or disprove a crime, considering most rapes are committed by someone you know.
Sparkmetodeath 3y ago
Yeah that’s the thing. The 3% of rape cases are proven false statistic isn’t actually accurate - 3% are never proven right, not outright disproven. Someone should try and specify further so we finally know.
Mackdude15 3y ago
Thats stupid
FlawsAndConcerns 3y ago
Horseshit. In fact, in plenty of cases, the false accuser flat-out confesses to making it all up.
More horseshit based on the previous horseshit premise. If you catch a false accusation and punish the false accuser, this will only discourage false accusers.
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FlawsAndConcerns 3y ago
Yes, confession is more likely when there are no punishments for the act you are confessing to. Murderers would more freely admit to killing someone if they knew they'd never be punished for it, too, so by your logic, we shouldn't punish murder, either.
Think about what you're actually arguing in favor of. 'Ease of getting them to admit to it' should not factor into whether "it" should be punished.
ThisIsWhoIAmNow71 3y ago
It's different though.... In cases of false allegation, the guy is still alive. So there should be incentive for the girl to confess. The same can't be said about the guy in a murder case. So confession or no confession, there's no difference in the guy's life, because he's dead.
Mystical__flame 3y ago
You know there is such a thing as innocent untill proven guilty. If there isn't enough evidence to prove the supposed assailant guilty, than they are innocent. The mindset of "they may of done it but there just wasn't enough evidence" is why peoples lives are ruined permanently even if the judge said not guilty.
Dean_Clean 3y ago
Agreed but unfortunately these fights play out in two realms: real court and the court of public opinion which has been heavily coerced to view allegations as guilt. Hence so many accusations coming out on social media but not through the police and the legal system. I'm I tested to see where Bieber's case goes from here and thank god that guy is so organized to have counter evidence.
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Mystical__flame 3y ago
I get your talking legally, but even in that context the mindset that followed that comment is dangerous.
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Mystical__flame 3y ago
I just think the "well they may of still done it" mindset is toxic. I understand there is no black and white answer to the punishment for false accusations argument. If someone did lie about rape and they receive literally no form if punishment that can lead into the dangerous environment we see today. If they do get punished it could give people have a harder time coming out. There is a fine line there and little to zero answers where both sides come out on top. I just think the argument of "would if they just couldn't prove it" is toxic.
KilljoyTheTrucker 3y ago
No, no she wouldn't. Shed face charges if the proof pointed to her lying about it.
There is still middle ground here, even in a legal sense.
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KilljoyTheTrucker 3y ago
Then there would be zero proof, so there won't be anything to prosecute her on any more than there is to prosecute him on.
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Justin_______ 3y ago
A win for Innocent until proven guilty and a lose for false rape allegations,
SweetLoh 3y ago
Any updates on this yet?
Lion_amongst_gods 3y ago
False sexual harassment/ assault/ rape accusations are sexual assault crimes in themselves.
feelin-supersonic 3y ago
Doesn’t Bieber have contracts that need to be signed by the girls before sex? Or is that another person?
TheDukeOf_Donuts 3y ago
Nah, that's PC principal and his house-mates. Never forget, there's a separate release form for cunnilingus.
NorthPassion3 3y ago
Yes
ivanoud 3y ago
Hopefully what Bieber did starts a change for men.
Zabuza-_-mist 3y ago
I didnt know this was an option holy shit i feel bettwr about society unless he didnt win
jinladen040 3y ago
Good for him. I don't keep up with pop culture but man, he's looking rough these days
RedPillCafe 3y ago
That's how you do it to fraudsters. Burn them to the ground.
urahara64360 3y ago
I'm not sure how well it will go. Defamation is harder for public figures. It was what the news companies started using in the Covington kids case.
PicklesAreMyFriends 3y ago
The only crime here is that moustache
NorthPassion3 3y ago
Goddamn hero, everyone trying to act like this kid is a dickhead, I think he fucking rules
__pulsar 3y ago
He's definitely done some questionable stuff but nothing approaching sexual assault, and considering his extreme fame and wealth at an early age he seems to be doing pretty good overall.
Lokimonoxide 3y ago
I was an idiot when I was 19. I did some shitty stuff. Nothing unforgiveable, but young, drunk stuff.
I didn't have the world's media on me, nor did everyone and their dog have a smartphone camera, thank Christ.
Deathbysugar2020 3y ago
He's a very nice person. A friend of mine met him in a park once, she went and greeted him, they sat down and chatted for a bit. People change.
bluffercove 3y ago
When his “baby” music video came out he was like 13 and it became the most disliked video on YouTube and everybody just shit on him, so I think that might have lead to doing stuff
sizzler 3y ago
Really? I've seen footage of him running around crack alleys.
Ariliescbk 3y ago
Personally, I've always thought him to be a dick. But that's just me. That said, kudos to him for not taking this shit, and actually going through with a defamation case.
blueXcat 3y ago
He is still a dick head for the rest
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NorthPassion3 3y ago
Well reasoned and thoughtful. User name adds up.
NoCSForYou 3y ago
Dude was a total dickhead during his early years. Very sudden success followed by the drama that comes with it, as well as being a kid did not sit well with him.
Hes matured for sure now from what I have seen.
Midwest88 3y ago
For sure. He did some dickish things as you said which I think weren't done out of malicious intent, just him being emboldened by wealth, time and access to other wealthy and above average talent. Basically his attitude and mentality were no better than your average high school kid who doesn't give two shits three out of five days. I saw an interview with him taped last year with him talking about how he realized the path that he was on wasn't all too good for him personally and he knew he needed to change.
Right now I think he's displaying common sense and balls - you lied about me to the public, accused me of something I didn't do which could've caused me to be in jail, ruined my career and sued, but now I'm using the law against you as you almost did to me. Tit for tat. This is real social justice.
Lokimonoxide 3y ago
I can't imagine what it's like having every single person you meet tell you you're the coolest at the age of 14. That and tens of millions.
I'm not defending what he did, but that would fuck ANYONE up.
SamaramonM 3y ago
I mean he was one of the most hated people when he was literally just a kid. His first ever song was the most disliked video of all time until last year. Its probably gonna mess with you and how you behave when you're still developing.
kaii_king 3y ago
Very true. I think people forget that celebrities are still human beings. And that money isn’t a shield against vilification.
SamaramonM 3y ago
He was discovered while singing on streets for money. Not like he was a Hollywood child celeb with tons of cash. He was actually pretty talented. I always felt bad how he got treated. Good to see him grown up regardless.
BlisteryStar101 3y ago
And he’s going to win
ThisIsWhoIAmNow71 3y ago
Bruh he looks so different.....
Zeldagmr232 3y ago
smart. If he did it, he’ll lose the case and get what he deserves. If he doesn’t, they do and they will face the consequences of their actions
vivid-bunny 3y ago
no they will not. even if the women are sued they will get no consequences. judges have their own agenda, they want to make precedent cases so they make it extra mild so they can bit for bit with every false accusation case lower the consequences for these women. until ultimately there are no consequences anymore with quoting earlier cases. and that point is actually already reached
JayPlaysBeamNG 3y ago
Women will get 45 days of community service because equality.
Zeldagmr232 3y ago
We need Judge Joe Brown back
J2501 3y ago
I've been mulling this over in my mind, and it really doesn't make sense. Bieber should be well-aware that his fans are people who went to Young Life in high school. Why would he do that to one of them, of all people? I find it hard to believe that even he would be that stupid. I mean, come on... there's gotta be people he can call, right?
That one of the accusations is coming out of Austin makes me suspicious as well. It's exactly the kind of place where a scam like that would be pulled on someone like him. I mean, the feminist climate here is why I've stayed out of the sexual fracas almost the entire time I've been here. But Bieber's rich. He's not stuck here. He can go to a place where women aren't insane, in their demands of men. Why would he even make a pit stop in this Hell-hole? Let alone take one by force. There's plenty who would receive him willingly. Why come here and do what he is accused of doing? It just doesn't add up.
DimitriT 3y ago
If he don't, they will just continue
Neveah_Hope_Dreams 3y ago
Has it all been confirmed though? Did he really do it or is it a false accusation?
I want to wait and see what happens.
Deathbysugar2020 3y ago
He's proven that he was with Gomez when he allegedly assaulted Jennifer. And then she said that he was "discrediting her trauma".
airinnnn_n 3y ago
It's all proven that it's false accusation from his own twitter account. He was not even in the location at the time she stated she was assaulted by him.
TopHatGuy5269 3y ago
Not a fan of him, think he's a bit of a cunt sometimes, but i'm proud of him that he did that
JayPlaysBeamNG 3y ago
His “cunt” moments were just shitty teen fuckups. They just happened to be broadcast to the world. I’m sure there are many teens out there that get in trouble for drugs and racing their v6 mustang down I-80.
NorthPassion3 3y ago
Ok
BigShooterThrowaway 3y ago
Yes!
mariusalb 3y ago
I am a bieber fan now
cymrich 3y ago
that mustache though... I feel sexually assaulted just looking at it....
tdreampo 3y ago
I was never a fan, but this kinda makes me one.
NorthPassion3 3y ago
Give me a half billion dollars and dick riding fake ass friends. Surround me with an entire world of cock gobbling manipulative whores. I probably would have been a bit of a dick myself.
Mexican_Boogieman 3y ago
Poor Justin Bieber with his Lyme disease.
JETS_WPG 3y ago
I wish all men had his money so we could do this. I was accused of rap by an outside party, not the girl I supposedly raped... but by someone else... it still really bothers me. I’m now married to the girl I supposedly raped. Those two girls used to be best friends and now never speak. I still loose sleep
proexsniping 3y ago
She probably dreamed about it after listening to his songs.
shoetreemoon 3y ago
Well, he has a staff of lawyers he pays to sue whomever he wants. Even though most of us, evidence or not, are told by lawyers to just forget about it and move on. Once again how the elite and privileged live by a vastly different standard even when it comes to false accusations.
gamessuck00 3y ago
Good
RunawayGrain 3y ago
You know the worlds gone topsy turvy when Bieber is handling it like this much of a boss.
anarion99 3y ago
It's a no brainier
2rightboots 3y ago
I don’t like the guy but I’m glad he’s suing those cunts
ShillBot1 3y ago
Why does he look like trailer trash? He looks fucking disgusting
shitin-bricks 3y ago
Yikes calm down your women is going to get sued for false sexual assault
MetroidJunkie 3y ago
This is a strange turn of events when I'm actually giving props to Justin Bieber.
Silentpoolman 3y ago
He's aging like a sock.
SciFidelity 3y ago
And we all know which sock
someguylol5 3y ago
Huh 2020 is turning around
bluffercove 3y ago
We did it lads, sexism is no more