It’s sickening to me to see all men being treated like absolute garbage by females that just bitch and moan when they don’t even know what there bitching and moaning about. We have equality and these feminists act like we don’t because they have nothing better to do, or anything else to feel special from. They want to look like they are oppressed because they love the special treatment and constant tormenting of men that they get to do.
Our society has become a place where only females are allowed to have problems. Where men are raised to believe that just because they are a male that they need to be strong and emotionless shallow rocks that show no pain because they’re just told to “man up” .
Men are no longer allowed to flirt or compliment girls without being falsely accused of sexual assault by fragile and woke feminists. Do you wanna know the reason me and my sisters are alive? Because my parents met. How did they meet? My dad approached my mum and complimented her hair. You know like what you are supposed to when you are attracted to someone. It’s not like females are empathic and can read emotions. How the fuck else is she supposed to know the man is interested in her?!
Anyway I’m way off track, the court system needs to change. So many Men have their lives ruined by unloving, selfish shallow bitches that can just take his life and his kids away from him just because the legal system favours women! Even though women are the very fucking large majority of people that want the divorce in the first place(probably because if a man did it, it would mean losing his kids to a sexist legal system). I can’t imagine having my kids being ripped from my life, getting forced out of our family home and my life going to shit all because of a court system that is soft on women in every way.
And you feminists want “equality”... YOU ALREADY FUCKING HAVE IT!!! You got the right to vote you got equal pay you got everything in between and everything tipped in your favour and you still aren’t happy. So what now? Hmmm let’s cancel every show that has more male than female cancel someone and ruin their career because they said something that you don’t agree with let’s bitch and complain about females in comics and movies being too hot let’s just turn human kind in to a big race of mindless drones that trained for repeat “future is female...” because that’s all you want. Not equality. Not peace. You want world fucking domination. Everything is already ripped in your favour the only actual laws or rights that are not fair are now only in the favour women and have been for years. Just take this man for example and the remorseless bitch just fucking cheers. With no regard for the loving man that can no longer see his children. And you just cheer as you bath once privilege.
Much as I applaud the judge here, yes Reality TV Court Shows are equivalent to the circus that is exploitive Talk Show TV. You've got dysfunctional people airing their dirty laundry before the cameras and an audience while a host moderates the proceedings and interjects their personal opinions.
At the very least, Courtroom TV attempts to be legitimate with Judges who have a wealth of experience in overseeing cases.
yes he would. it does not matter if youre the father or not. when the child is born you have a few months to reject paternity if you didnt from then on youre the legal father, no matter if youre the biological one. it even happens that a man rejects paternity u less he gets a genetical proof that hes the father. but the mother can talk for the child and refuse the genetic test. court has to decide andd when court takes longer than those few months to decide then youre the father legally weither you want or not. even if the test is permitted shortly after.
As far as i know from what I've seen, if you sign the birth certificate, you would have to pay child support. If you don't want to pay it you have to get a lawyer to settle this.
Do tell me if I'm incorrect on this information though!
courts will assume that you are the father even if you dont sign the birth certificate. I never signed for my child ( because we don't do that where i come from- Its illegal if the parents name are missing). If you take on the father role for someone else child( a child who is the product of a divorce) you will be made to pay.
Its simple, there is a financial incentive in the US for state if they make the "father" pay regardless of paternity( I believe they get money from the federal govt for it)
.. and the federal govt doesn't want to pay the welfare for children and custody parent when there is likely no source of income for them( eg the parent can't work)
I see! Ty for the information. I'm not from the US, but I've heard it depends from state to state. Glad to know this information, even though it is a bit fucked in my opinion...
This little girl went from having a dad that loves her and wanted to help support her to possibly getting a dad that wants nothing to do with her and might not be able to support her, all because mom wanted to play games.
This little girl went from having a dad that loves her and wanted to help support her to possibly getting a dad that wants nothing to do with her and might not be able to support her, all because mom wanted to play games.
As i understand it the biological father was from an affair when she cheated( one-night stand maybe since she claims she doesn't know who the father is) and this poor guy stepped into the role thinking he was the father.
he is going to be in a legal minefield from now with the possibility of being made to pay a lot of support with no parental rights.
yup. play stupid games? win stupid prizes.
this little girl just lost a loving father and the mother just lost a source of income. all just to hurt him
Children are just emotional weapons to these people, ten bucks says fatso is a wino emotional nut bag who has developed a vampiric codependency on that child that involves nothing but venom toward that dad.
We don't know that she's a horrible woman, but she did a horrible thing bringing that kind of mindset into family court, and someone corrected her properly for probably the first time in her divorce.
It's probably better that she cheered like that in public so that people could show her the right way, so maybe we'll see a video of her or her daughter down the line doing the same thing this judge just did.
That's even more difficult than getting custody rights, though. My dad's been going through a situation like this since his last divorce. Non-biological father to a now-fifteen year old girl, and she doesn't know anyone else as her father. I'm not sure exactly what happened or whether there's been any legal work done, but I still see her at family gatherings (without her mother), but not more often than that.
Just know you're not alone. I have no idea what you're going through, but if you just need someone to talk to or vent or get your feelings out to, message me. Us men need support just like anyone else.
Happened to me as a kid, was stuck in the middle of it all. My dad worked his ass off to protect me from my psychotic mom, yet the courts repeatedly gave her shared custody. Its sick. I had cops come to my house and drag me away because "its mommy's week" Another week of abuse.
I'm sorry to hear that happened to you. Thank you for sharing your experience. I know it helped me to understand how flawed the court/divorce/custody system is.
I made a promise to my parents. If they divorce, and someone cheated, i forgive that parent. If they lie about it, i will cut them out of my life forever. If they give one of my parents exclusive custody of me i will walk away. If they lie, if they behave like this, i will never talk to them again
Living that now. My ex is about to get off again from another 2 charges because it’s too much hassle since she is a “single mom”. Her son is grown and her daughter has a father.
This^ my mom had already been in jail for drug use and child abuse. My dad? He lived two hours away, so obviously me and my four sisters should live with my mother!
How old were you? Where I’m from if you’re old enough you can choose who you live with, so if you didn’t want to see your mother court would not give her shared custody.
I'll taje the example of my country : until you're 18 yo, you don't have the full rights over your body, meaning that in a divorce, until 18 yo it's the court's decision to place you in a foster home or with either your dad or mom (if the child wasn't already emancipated) and it's only at 21 yo that the Social Security of your parents stop covering you, at this age, your parents don't have you at charge anymore (unless there is a disease or a disability).
I wonder how many times the words “she’s the reason I go to work everyday” will ring in her head when she doesn’t have as much as money as she needs throughout the child’s life.
I wonder how many times the words “she’s the reason I go to work everyday” will ring in her head when she doesn’t have as much as money as she needs throughout the child’s life.
I suspect she will try to find another man to play the father role( for money only)
I sense he would happily pay child support to be that child’s father. I sense he won’t have to pay and she won’t have a father and grow up to be a nasty human like her mother.
It’s an odd thought to me that this little girl may very well be able to see this video and this thread. Maybe it would help her avoid being like her mother.
When my partner of 11 years split up with me, it was friendly. We shared our possessions fairly and without any arguments. It broke my heart, but we had to do it.
Also, don't generalise women like that or I'll ban you.
Uhh, just so you know, threatening to ban someone with a different opinion isn't the best way to actually CHANGE an opinion, its also awful to think in absolutes, i said "roughly" for a reason in which i actually meant that women tend to try and find men who can take care of them and their offspring which could be roughly described as "gold digging" and obviously not the chicks who change their minds with a look of a sports car
It’s more the selfishness, there is this internal need to be everything to the children they create. A father usually understands that a child is their own entity and allows that child to grow into the adult they will become.
You can see this fact by the fact women call men out for being standoffish with their children without understanding the simple fact that they don’t let their children breathe because it’s all about them and indoctrination of all their beliefs.
This is the truth, there is a big difference in our perceptions of children. Like for me if I was a father and had a 16 year old son arrested for shoplifting, my first inclination would not to be to run down to the jail and post bail for his dumb ass.
It would be to let him sit there for 3 days and wait to appear before a judge so he’s hopefully scared shitless the entire time, to learn his lesson and never do it again.
But a mother is like 99% to freak out, fly down there, captain save-a-ho him, and then bitch because the store discriminated against her perfect baby that “could not have done anything wrong and never hurt nobody”.
The coddling is disgusting honestly and coddling is how we get these men today that protest at feminism rallies in the hopes of that 0.001% shot at fat pig feminism pussy.
Like when you see one of those men wearing a shirt that says “women are the future”.
You know that idiot was coddled his whole life.
Of course I’m not throwing shade at single moms, there are plenty out there that will raise a good son and have done so already, but I would say it’s typical for a woman raised boy to be a total stick in the mud...
It reflects some cultural and societal trends we are recently seeing and I agree. It’s proof positive why both need be involved for the proper human to emerge.
Recent as in the 1970's? At least in the USA, the decline began in the late '60's with LBJ's welfare "reforms" that incentivized the destruction of the family unit. Some will argue that no-fault divorce was the burning rag in this Molotov cocktail. I cannot disagree.
Bro I am a dude and my emotion overpowers logic all the time
Perhaps you are exaggerating "all the time".
Otherwise, your father failed you or he simply could not muster enough horsepower to burn through the tough, J-2 offsuit genetic hand that you were dealt. Emotional control and regulation is one of the beautiful masculine gifts that has allowed us to triumph over extreme adversity and build all of the beautiful things that we enjoy. When fee-fees trump logic, chaos reigns.
Hypergamy is a very real thing that keeps cropping up. It's most prominent in the younger women in like their early 20s that think they can get away with practically anything and deserve only the best men that treat them like princesses just because they look nice. That's not an incel view, mate, that's just simply how they see themselves and some will even outright admit it to you.
Ah, yes, the classic, unbeatable argument tactic, insulting the guy that disagrees with you without addressing the topic. You weren't kidding when you said your emotion overpowers your logic.
Homophobia? In in Men’s fucking rights? Man get the fuck out of here, go to MGTOW or some incel forum, you shouldn’t be in this sub if you hate men this much.
Instead of worrying about the level of hormones in other men, keep it to your toxic ass. You have no right, absolutely no right, to judge on what’s masculine and what isn’t, idc if that’s what your incel forum says, but you aren’t sounding any better than a misandrist.
This is a sub for all men, regardless of sexuality, we are here to support men of all shapes, sizes and nationality. And I will not stand idly by while you degrade gay men on a subreddit that’s meant to protect their freedom.
I've met and am friends with homosexuals who use the term 'gay' as an insult, not as an attack someone's sexuality (that would be ironic) but on that person's behaviour.
It's like black guys using the N-word. They're not racist for using it, and not every black man gets offended if, say, a white guy says 'nigga' (depending on how he uses it).
Why post inflammatory shit like this if you don’t want people to react, pretty sure this in particular is very real for many of the followers.
There are groups of people you’re never going to win over, this idea that you can is why stuff like our court system exists. When you back down you get fucked. You stop.
Of course not, but it is plural and systemic... if it weren’t why would we be here?
I think that has to be implicit that you can criticize large collections of a group of people without having to clarify that you mean every single representative of the group.
However I don’t mind clarifying once that is not my intent. ONCE.
So you want to make a point and then tell me not to reply to it? Of course I’m going to reply to it. It’s not an opinion, it’s scientifically false. Did you even read the comment???
This is why children don’t have fathers, this shit needs to be played in actual kangaroo “justice” circles so those shitbag domestic court judges can realize how bullshit it is to be a single father.
I watched a man who was making $2,500 a month and gets 1 day with his child a week have to fork out $950 a month! In child care and that’s not even INCLUDING INSURANCE! How is that mother fucker going to even live, let alone be able to not be bitter and angry at everything, including what that child has put that man into.
The system is fucking designed to make men angry about being fathers, and women have exploited this out of their own narcissism of “he left me................. and my child!” Children are weapons to these garbage human beings, and I’m sick of seeing it and people denying it!
at one point my dad had to survive on $200 a month because my retard mom spent atleast $100 at bars every night while my dad starved, I fucking hate the court system. we need to reset it, fire every fucking judge
This is why children don’t have fathers, this shit needs to be played in actual kangaroo “justice” circles so those shitbag domestic court judges can realize how bullshit it is to be a single father.
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given the recent furore over the death of a black man( and I'm saying this respectfully so don't jump on me ok). We have this issue that protestors are always overlooking.
that african american households with children have a rate of about 75% fatherliness . that is to say that only 25% of those kids have their fathers.
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this issue was cited by the NAACP as the most important issue affecting the community, not the police brutality. But protestors do nothing more than crickets, just like feminists are about the rights of fathers...
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the family courts are amongst the most ignorant ( and i would cowardly) about protecting children. They don't have the spine to say NO this is wrong, wrong for the children to be treated like a possession rather than a person who has a shared identity
watch the full episode, this woman is a monster. The man was in the child's life more than her, paying the woman for the little girl's life, and even driving 150 miles every weekend JUST to spend time with her
She wanted to keep using that girl as a weapon against him, and defrauded the system by lying about him being the father.
as much as he probably won't, I want him to sue her for the money due to the fraud. and hell, add emotional distress.
I didn’t want to comment on this because my anger and pure fucking hatred for this woman is so intense that I can’t describe it in words. I’ve seen this video on YouTube and it makes my heart break every time. I can LITERALLY barely watch without bracing myself for her cheer.
Legal obligation!!!!! This is America now!!!!!!!! Welcome to your new slave master 240lb woman who doesn't want to fuck you and the kid isn't even yours. This is America now.... Surly lawyer would fight this DNA test?
My BIL has two children with a woman who left with them. No contact whatsoever. We pray his daughters are safe. I feel horrible for the man in the clip. Fuck that lady.
18 seconds in the judge says he's not the father, and the mother starts cheering vehemently, raising her arms, even pointing her fingers at the man in what I can only assume is a way to say "suck it!".
The judge then spends the next 2 minutes essentially berating the cheering woman for being a horrible mother/woman for acting like that. How she should be very sad and compassionate that the man essentially lost a child, and the child lost a father. INstead of having a father who loves her, she might now grow up with either no father in the picture at all, or knowing that her biological father wants absolutely nothing to do with her - as the mother does not even know who the father could be.
I feel very sad for the child for having to grow up with a mother like that. If she could act like that on national television, how is she at home?
The following was deleted from menslib and feminism reddits for some reason, but here it is:
85% of all youths in prison come from fatherless homes – 20 times the average. (Fulton Co. Georgia, Texas Dept. of Correction)
70% of youths in state-operated institutions come from fatherless homes – 9 times the average. (U.S. Dept. of Justice, Sept. 1988)
80% of rapists with anger problems come from fatherless homes –14 times the average. (Justice & Behavior, Vol 14, p. 403-26
63% of youth suicides are from fatherless homes (US Dept. Of Health/Census) – 5 times the average.
90% of all homeless and runaway children are from fatherless homes – 32 times the average.
85% of all children who show behavior disorders come from fatherless homes – 20 times the average. (Center for Disease Control)
71% of all high school dropouts come from fatherless homes – 9 times the average. (National Principals Association Report)
Father Factor in Education – Fatherless children are twice as likely to drop out of school.
Children with Fathers who are involved are 40% less likely to repeat a grade in school.
Children with Fathers who are involved are 70% less likely to drop out of school.
Children with Fathers who are involved are more likely to get A’s in school.
Children with Fathers who are involved are more likely to enjoy school and engage in extracucricular activities.
75% of all adolescent patients in chemical abuse centers come from fatherless homes – 10 times the average.
43% of US children live without their father [US Department of Census]
90% of homeless and runaway children are from fatherless homes. [US D.H.H.S., Bureau of the Census]
80% of rapists motivated with displaced anger come from fatherless homes. [Criminal Justice & Behaviour, Vol 14, pp. 403-26, 1978]
71% of pregnant teenagers lack a father. [U.S. Department of Health and Human Services press release, Friday, March 26, 1999]
63% of youth suicides are from fatherless homes. [US D.H.H.S., Bureau of the Census]
85% of children who exhibit behavioral disorders come from fatherless homes. [Center for Disease Control]
90% of adolescent repeat arsonists live with only their mother. [Wray Herbert, “Dousing the Kindlers,” Psychology Today, January, 1985, p. 28]
71% of high school dropouts come from fatherless homes. [National Principals Association Report on the State of High Schools]
75% of adolescent patients in chemical abuse centers come from fatherless homes. [Rainbows f for all God’s Children]
70% of juveniles in state operated institutions have no father. [US Department of Justice, Special Report, Sept. 1988]
85% of youths in prisons grew up in a fatherless home. [Fulton County Georgia jail populations, Texas Department of Corrections, 1992]
Fatherless boys and girls are: twice as likely to drop out of high school; twice as likely to end up in jail; four times more likely to need help for emotional or behavioral problems. [US D.H.H.S. news release, March 26, 1999]
Jokes aside, I have discussed this before prominent feminists works particularly in 2nd wave which have shaped modern feminism now and are read widely by young impressionable women and men in university were written by people like dworkins, mackinon, solanas etc... they literally had PTSD,in some cases schizophrenia, were raped, abused, beaten, abandoned, were often fat and ugly (not a judgment but I mean were outcast and had severe body image issues and self control problems), on drugs, etc.... this obvuously affected their works which became prominent feminists works!! and now shape feminism... it really isnt a joke when you say feminism is a hatefilled, hysterical, crazy movement as the guiding texts are dervived from this type of thinking
This was removed because although it may be true, where are the statistics to prove why those homes are fatherless? Additionally, where are the statistics about things related to motherless homes. You are posting these statistics showing the importance of a father without giving any insight as to why. It's like saying 1 out of 6 violent crimes are committed by Chinese people. Well no shit because 1/6 of the world population is Chinese.
If you want to have a real conversation, bring that information to the table as well. Otherwise you come off an asshole.
1 out of 6 violent crimes are committed by Chinese people. Well no shit because 1/6 of the world population is Chinese.
So you're saying Chinese people are criminals? And please use actual ststistics rather than pulling some pseudostatistical example out of your ass, otherwise your argument lacks legitimacy.
I'm saying that all people are just as likely to be violent criminals. Same as if I said 15% of violent criminals are white because 15% of the world is white.
What are you talking about? I'm saying I don't care about why, just like my original comment. I was just saying to OP if you are gonna post a wall of stats about the importance of men in a feminism subreddit, it's probably gonna get removed if you don't give a reason. Why are you trying to convince me of anything.
Just saying, this is even worse then just "cheering for custody." This woman cheered because the little girl wasn't his. She cheered because she destroyed two peoples lives. She is fucking horrible, that little girl had a father who loved her and she ripped it away because what? He cheated on her? She's a monster.
Did you not watch the video? She took him to court over paternity because he cheated. And clearly it was mutual if the kid wasn't his. However that means that she literally knew there was a chance the kid wasn't his and only did this to hurt him.
from what they said she wanted the divorce because she thought he cheated - but he's found out not to be the father, doesn't that mean that she was the one that cheated
It means Men Going Their Own Way. It also uses the video to attribute to all women what a few do. If all women were the way that this woman was, all men would already be going their own way.
I went down the rabbit hole of the MGTOW sub a few times. Came across a post where a man said he would not help a woman if he knew she was being raped. The comments.....it really devolved.
I wouldn't call them a hate group. Their response is due to things like this video. Much like vigilante justice. Some people will take the noble route of apprehending criminals and turning them into authorities and some will take justice into their own hands. Both turned away from a system that harmed them, one just takes it past a reasonable level.
Having recently separated I have no intentions of getting into another relationship, so I guess I'm kind of going my own way and am looking forward to the future.
If that was the sole focus of MGTOW I'd be all for it as a kind of support network. But for guys who don't want to settle down they obsess an awful lot about women.
After having $200k stolen from me "legally" by my ex, I now only keep close friends and fuckbuddies. You don't have to get married to settle down and enjoy life with someone, but MGTOW takes it a step further and says "fuck women amirite they deserve rape for not letting me use them".
It stems from a continued railroading of men into subservient societal slaves whereby they are seen as replaceable providers and are severely punished for not adhering to radical feminist propaganda idealism.
Dude I got fucked financially in my (almost, left state) divorce. I don't blame all men. I'm the provider for my family. According to MGTOW, women like me don't exist. According to MGTOW, all women do is take dicks and money.
That is completely incorrect. Anyone who tells you that is misinformed, even and especially men.
MGTOW is about that men going their own way. Women as dick takers is a complete misogynistic view of the movement and one that does it a lot of harm. There are extremes in every movement and this is one. unfortunately for men who take the MGTOW view and apply it respectfully are being tainted with the extremist brush.
There is also a WGTOW which is the female version which struggles with the same extremist views.
It seems you and I in our views and experiences are in the minority.
I hope you are in a better state financially and in well being than you were during your divorce.
If going one's own way glorifies rape of the sex you're going away from....disgusting. It was a popular post on a very toxic subreddit. Go your own way? Just go.
And thanks.
It means suck dick instead. They're so uber alpha Chad that they decided taking it up the ass was less effeminate then trying to make relationships work with women.
who has now being archived on the internet( which never forgets)
mom is going to be having kittens explaining why she did that to her daughter when she gets older. If she is really unlucky she might run away( sadly) or become dysfunctional..
..and I assumed that next to that woman was her own mother ( notice no father either)
so the child is going to be looking at a wicked grandmother...
The title is inaccurate. This is far worse than a woman getting custody of a child.
This is a woman who has previously convinced this man he was the father of a child when in fact he was not. This is a woman who has previously convinced a child that this man was her father when he was not. This woman is vile.
She is a horrible example of a human being. She cheated. She lied. She destroyed the life of this man. She destroyed the life of her child. There is nothing she can do to rectify the harm she has wreaked on this man and her own daughter. She deserves every bit of hatred she will receive from both of those individuals for the rest of her life.
I would like to see a #MeToo movement to expose these sorts of women on the same sort of public forum as men of similar crimes have been exposed. Social equality. There are as many bad women as there are bad men. They deserve exposure too. For equality.
Im sorry to see this man who gave a child that he thought was his love. he was fortunate that he even had the chance
my ex deliberately denied me legal process twice for custody and used a sharia court in the Middle East to take custody in secret.
And these are countries that withhold visitation from the other parent or make it so strict that to even miss one ever is to lose any parental rights forever. I was denied my rights as I was not in the country, nor would they deal with the domestic violence/abuse inflicted upon a disabled child and disabled father...
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I used to hear stories from people whose partner "stole" their child legally, and then systematically did every thing to make the other parent fail to see their child and deny them their parental rights..
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this crap in the UK, Europe, US, Canada, Australia about the best interest of the child is utter rubbish because they do nothing to stop this behaviour, enforce court rules or protect the child because they are afraid of protest groups getting them suspended/ fired etc for wrong judgement so they play it safe. They've undermined the law with cowardice.
I thought the judge was going to do the right thing and reverse her decision and give custody to the father. You see this fat ogre cheering like that? Cheering because she knows she's about to get guaranteed child support CASH for the next 15 years while her daughter gets scraps and grows up hating the world and degenerates into a whore to hide the pain of daddy not loving her because her fat ogre of a mother wouldn't let him see her. It's a tragic story that plays out time and time again. The judge was even like "wtf???" And the boorish mother STILL got custody. The court systems and family courts need MASSIVE reform.
This is more or less why I don't want kids. I just don't I could be trusting enough to go through that process and face (potentially) the consequences of a failed marriage.
This judge finally did something good for once. I remember watching episodes where she always excuse the female for cheating on their significant others.
How selfish can you be? If you can't put aside your petty bullshit for yourself at least do it for your daughter who will now be heartbroken and have no father in her life..
Nope it was her cheating on him actually and she was forcing him to keep paying and lied to him even though it wasnt his child.
Heres a copy of u/Cookiedoughjunkie ‘s comment: “watch the full episode, this woman is a monster. The man was in the child's life more than her, paying the woman for the little girl's life, and even driving 150 miles every weekend JUST to spend time with her
She wanted to keep using that girl as a weapon against him, and defrauded the system by lying about him being the father.
as much as he probably won't, I want him to sue her for the money due to the fraud. and hell, add emotional distress.”
On one hand, you got a little kid forced away from her loving dad, who has been manipulated and exploited by his ex for money in spite of the fact that he is not her father — which is something that she knew but only revealed when it suits her.
On the other, you have a troubled man in a dirty business looking for a sliver of justice for the trauma he's been put through by his ex (also in that business) for God knows why or how long.
Honestly, (probably biased because of my parent's divorce) I personally feel like the kid's case is worse because she's gonna have to grow up under such an bitch with nobody else to turn to for support. Johnny's case is about resolving the past, hers is about her whole future.
Will we get to watch the verdict like this in Johnny Depp's defamation case against Amber Heard? It would be awesome to see the look of Heard's face.
I would buy popcorns and drinks to be able to sit and watch this.
I suspect there will be calls to keep the case details private even after the final verdict because amber would be patient zero in the argument against "women don't do domestic violence..."
He has had to break that privacy in order to defend himself.
I don't wish ill upon the guy but I really hope he could air this out as an example to say that men are also victims of DV , even rich white men( that society is currently demonising). I ve been through what he has been through( without the money though) when no one believes you and yet they try to destroy your life.
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It might be cathartic for him to air it as well in that in helping others he would get better closure for his life.
You might just be right. I’ve also been through an abusive relationship, and it was aired out against my wishes in which about half the people I knew believed me...and that hurt me deeply. I still hide from it sometimes. I do wonder if I’d been able to have the right amount of proof and documentation at the time and not just an exit strategy and complete focus on disappearing, if that person would have been stopped from hurting others after me. I’ll never know.
Maybe Johnny will receive good advice, and he seems to have a fantastic support group of men and women who supported him through this the entire time...and that’s nice.
I’m sure he understood long ago he’d have to give up some privacy for justice, he now knows abusers thrive on private people like that. But to tape the entire thing? Have the media run through it like they ran through him before? I dunno if that would feel like justice at all for him.
Imagine being so stuck up that you cheer about ruining a mans life. I couldn’t imagine. I want to give him and that child a hug. This is so heartbreaking.
However, who the fuck thought it would be a good idea to turn a court paternity case into an entertainment show? You know, for viewers and profit.
Then, as if that wasn't enough, they'd reveal the judgement all suspensefully like a fucking game show!
I feel there would be less chance of that reaction if the whole thing wasn't dramaticised. She's in court, she's on tv, and after the big pause.... She won!
So yeah, wouldn't give her shit off my shoe, but she's not 100% at fault for reacting like she'd won wheel of fortune, but that's exactly how she felt.
They are real. Often times both sides have their legal fees and fines payed by the show to come on and film the "trial" Its real, and usually the Judge is a retired judge, but it is very much filmed and produced with the intent of entertainment.
That is the beauty of editing. there are so many tips and tricks of that industry that they can make you see and hear whatever you want. " Adam Ruins Everything - Why Reality Shows Are Hella Fake " is a great look at some of that. If you have netflix i know its on there right now.
You can see the lightbulb go on when she hears “legal obligation, financially” Life literally returns to her face, and she responds to the judge. Scum. Scum. Scum. Scum. Scum.
I saw this video on YouTube a couple months ago and I was utterly disgusted, how can someone be that low in life. I hope when that kid grows up it realizes how much of a piece of garbage her mom is and moves in with her dad. And yes it’s her dad idc if not biologically he’s her dad and would give her a way better life.
Good on that judge!!! That was awesome! I was ready to rant my comment off here until that wonderful judge spoke out what we where thinking!
I was expecting this to be another drama indused and pathetic reality show like Maury and Jerry Springer but nope! This is the most mature, honest and respectful show ever.
Who is this judge? I want to know more about her. She's so cool!
I'm sorry to hear this happened to you but thank you so much for sharing. I can't begin to imagine a childhood and life like that. I agree that there needs to be a lot of changes, I only hope when these changes are made that men with experiences like you are listened to.
Fortunately I was able to choose to live with my father when I was 12. My life would be very different if not for that. My mother was both physically and mentally abusive.
My husband found out his son wasn't his at 3 years old. He was devastated and heart broken but continued to take care of him, just stopped paying her child support. Then she got a new boyfriend and decided her son no longer needed him since she was getting paid by the bio dad and now had a boyfriend to play daddy. So we took her to court. $10,000 later (almost $20,000 but she gave in last minute), my husband gained some rights back because our state recognizes "psychological parents". He's 11 now and we still get him on the weekends and most days in the summer. He occasionally sees his bio dad but he lives in another state so it's not often.
Really sums up how men get treated. She was fine having pity on him while it was being used to make the mom feel bad, but at the end of the day it's "ok, we're done, go fix yourself".
this is a tv show and she showed more compassion than a court normally does as they never have to deal with the consequences of their decision.
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if it was shown to them the consequences of the children of divorce losing their fathers in their lives in as little as five years and then they were held accountable for their actions, then they would actually make better decisions..
ThatCat44 3y ago
And the poor dad STILL didn't get custody after that
YoBoIJaKoB 3y ago
It’s sickening to me to see all men being treated like absolute garbage by females that just bitch and moan when they don’t even know what there bitching and moaning about. We have equality and these feminists act like we don’t because they have nothing better to do, or anything else to feel special from. They want to look like they are oppressed because they love the special treatment and constant tormenting of men that they get to do.
Our society has become a place where only females are allowed to have problems. Where men are raised to believe that just because they are a male that they need to be strong and emotionless shallow rocks that show no pain because they’re just told to “man up” .
Men are no longer allowed to flirt or compliment girls without being falsely accused of sexual assault by fragile and woke feminists. Do you wanna know the reason me and my sisters are alive? Because my parents met. How did they meet? My dad approached my mum and complimented her hair. You know like what you are supposed to when you are attracted to someone. It’s not like females are empathic and can read emotions. How the fuck else is she supposed to know the man is interested in her?!
Anyway I’m way off track, the court system needs to change. So many Men have their lives ruined by unloving, selfish shallow bitches that can just take his life and his kids away from him just because the legal system favours women! Even though women are the very fucking large majority of people that want the divorce in the first place(probably because if a man did it, it would mean losing his kids to a sexist legal system). I can’t imagine having my kids being ripped from my life, getting forced out of our family home and my life going to shit all because of a court system that is soft on women in every way.
And you feminists want “equality”... YOU ALREADY FUCKING HAVE IT!!! You got the right to vote you got equal pay you got everything in between and everything tipped in your favour and you still aren’t happy. So what now? Hmmm let’s cancel every show that has more male than female cancel someone and ruin their career because they said something that you don’t agree with let’s bitch and complain about females in comics and movies being too hot let’s just turn human kind in to a big race of mindless drones that trained for repeat “future is female...” because that’s all you want. Not equality. Not peace. You want world fucking domination. Everything is already ripped in your favour the only actual laws or rights that are not fair are now only in the favour women and have been for years. Just take this man for example and the remorseless bitch just fucking cheers. With no regard for the loving man that can no longer see his children. And you just cheer as you bath once privilege.
Fucking hate what this world has become
Edit: (Sorry for the rant)
FlopScratch 3y ago
Does she thinks it's the Maury show or something? Fucking hate that show. Asshole host with asshole guests and an asshole audience.
Keenin455 3y ago
Much as I applaud the judge here, yes Reality TV Court Shows are equivalent to the circus that is exploitive Talk Show TV. You've got dysfunctional people airing their dirty laundry before the cameras and an audience while a host moderates the proceedings and interjects their personal opinions.
At the very least, Courtroom TV attempts to be legitimate with Judges who have a wealth of experience in overseeing cases.
alc0 3y ago
Lol and you know he is still paying child support.
shaq604 3y ago
He's not the father, so he wouldn't be
TheDwiin 3y ago
"interest of the child" trumps paternity.
madmaxx9595 3y ago
I’ve seen the episode before. He was giving her money the whole time until he found out it wasn’t his kid
Lagkiller 3y ago
In many cases, they still do. The courts don't really care if you are or aren't biologically related.
vivid-bunny 3y ago
yes he would. it does not matter if youre the father or not. when the child is born you have a few months to reject paternity if you didnt from then on youre the legal father, no matter if youre the biological one. it even happens that a man rejects paternity u less he gets a genetical proof that hes the father. but the mother can talk for the child and refuse the genetic test. court has to decide andd when court takes longer than those few months to decide then youre the father legally weither you want or not. even if the test is permitted shortly after.
airinnnn_n 3y ago
As far as i know from what I've seen, if you sign the birth certificate, you would have to pay child support. If you don't want to pay it you have to get a lawyer to settle this.
Do tell me if I'm incorrect on this information though!
rahsoft 3y ago
courts will assume that you are the father even if you dont sign the birth certificate. I never signed for my child ( because we don't do that where i come from- Its illegal if the parents name are missing). If you take on the father role for someone else child( a child who is the product of a divorce) you will be made to pay.
Its simple, there is a financial incentive in the US for state if they make the "father" pay regardless of paternity( I believe they get money from the federal govt for it)
.. and the federal govt doesn't want to pay the welfare for children and custody parent when there is likely no source of income for them( eg the parent can't work)
airinnnn_n 3y ago
I see! Ty for the information. I'm not from the US, but I've heard it depends from state to state. Glad to know this information, even though it is a bit fucked in my opinion...
rahsoft 3y ago
neither am I even though I am american( dual national)
I learnt this from various support groups and this reddit when I was researching my unfortunate run in with the child custody process
akamustacherides 3y ago
This little girl went from having a dad that loves her and wanted to help support her to possibly getting a dad that wants nothing to do with her and might not be able to support her, all because mom wanted to play games.
rahsoft 3y ago
As i understand it the biological father was from an affair when she cheated( one-night stand maybe since she claims she doesn't know who the father is) and this poor guy stepped into the role thinking he was the father.
he is going to be in a legal minefield from now with the possibility of being made to pay a lot of support with no parental rights.
Kryto-Kun 3y ago
yup. play stupid games? win stupid prizes. this little girl just lost a loving father and the mother just lost a source of income. all just to hurt him
Cookiedoughjunkie 3y ago
and I really hope he goes for paternal fraud to get at least his child support back.
He won't get back all the hours and miles wasted driving back and forth on a lie.
d_nijmegen 3y ago
Horrible woman... Stepping over her child to hurt her man.
gamessuck00 3y ago
Children are just emotional weapons to these people, ten bucks says fatso is a wino emotional nut bag who has developed a vampiric codependency on that child that involves nothing but venom toward that dad.
rahsoft 3y ago
She will turn that girl into a co parent, to make her own life more meaningful.
spight 3y ago
We don't know that she's a horrible woman, but she did a horrible thing bringing that kind of mindset into family court, and someone corrected her properly for probably the first time in her divorce.
It's probably better that she cheered like that in public so that people could show her the right way, so maybe we'll see a video of her or her daughter down the line doing the same thing this judge just did.
rahsoft 3y ago
was she even married ?
in theory he would still have parental rights in that if he married her and effectively adopted her( or at least thought she was his)
spight 3y ago
That's even more difficult than getting custody rights, though. My dad's been going through a situation like this since his last divorce. Non-biological father to a now-fifteen year old girl, and she doesn't know anyone else as her father. I'm not sure exactly what happened or whether there's been any legal work done, but I still see her at family gatherings (without her mother), but not more often than that.
PoolDrummer 3y ago
In that situation right now but with 3 kids. The hurt and pain is too raw some days.
LordDiamyo 3y ago
I'm sorry to hear that. I couldn't begin to imagine what you're going through. I hope everything works out for you in the end.
PoolDrummer 3y ago
Thanks - just got to be strong and take it day by day.
LordDiamyo 3y ago
Just know you're not alone. I have no idea what you're going through, but if you just need someone to talk to or vent or get your feelings out to, message me. Us men need support just like anyone else.
N19864 3y ago
Too common in divorce.
Throw-The-O 3y ago
To common in every aspect in family court.
blaqsaqattaq 3y ago
Hey you literally threw the 2nd O away
RichManSCTV 3y ago
Happened to me as a kid, was stuck in the middle of it all. My dad worked his ass off to protect me from my psychotic mom, yet the courts repeatedly gave her shared custody. Its sick. I had cops come to my house and drag me away because "its mommy's week" Another week of abuse.
LordDiamyo 3y ago
I'm sorry to hear that happened to you. Thank you for sharing your experience. I know it helped me to understand how flawed the court/divorce/custody system is.
FinnieBoY-1203 3y ago
I made a promise to my parents. If they divorce, and someone cheated, i forgive that parent. If they lie about it, i will cut them out of my life forever. If they give one of my parents exclusive custody of me i will walk away. If they lie, if they behave like this, i will never talk to them again
3-10 3y ago
Living that now. My ex is about to get off again from another 2 charges because it’s too much hassle since she is a “single mom”. Her son is grown and her daughter has a father.
ihatemyself42069666 3y ago
That's messed up, I hate that there's nothing I can do
enoughfuckery 3y ago
This^ my mom had already been in jail for drug use and child abuse. My dad? He lived two hours away, so obviously me and my four sisters should live with my mother!
RichManSCTV 3y ago
My mom was arrested for getting in a drunk driving crash with me in the car. Yet she still got custody.
N19864 3y ago
That's why (in the UK) family courts are behind closed doors and have lots of laws to allegedly, protect the child.
MAI1E 3y ago
If you're 10 or older you hey a say in who you live with
LionVenom10 3y ago
How old were you? Where I’m from if you’re old enough you can choose who you live with, so if you didn’t want to see your mother court would not give her shared custody.
RichManSCTV 3y ago
Where I was you had to be 18 in order to have a say in anything
LionVenom10 3y ago
If you’re 18 you have custody of your own lmao
DechireLAnusRex 3y ago
I'll taje the example of my country : until you're 18 yo, you don't have the full rights over your body, meaning that in a divorce, until 18 yo it's the court's decision to place you in a foster home or with either your dad or mom (if the child wasn't already emancipated) and it's only at 21 yo that the Social Security of your parents stop covering you, at this age, your parents don't have you at charge anymore (unless there is a disease or a disability).
ajovialpessimist 3y ago
I wonder how many times the words “she’s the reason I go to work everyday” will ring in her head when she doesn’t have as much as money as she needs throughout the child’s life.
d_nijmegen 3y ago
She will probably overrule that thought with blame on him
rahsoft 3y ago
I suspect she will try to find another man to play the father role( for money only)
but she will be giving off red flags from now on
Owen_slaughter 3y ago
The courts will make him keep paying child support regardless.
ajovialpessimist 3y ago
Not necessarily. I got the sense it wouldn’t happen in this case. But you’re right in that that does happen.
3-10 3y ago
I sense he would happily pay child support to be that child’s father. I sense he won’t have to pay and she won’t have a father and grow up to be a nasty human like her mother.
ajovialpessimist 3y ago
It’s an odd thought to me that this little girl may very well be able to see this video and this thread. Maybe it would help her avoid being like her mother.
3-10 3y ago
Hopefully she’ll see the video.
ajovialpessimist 3y ago
Word. And hopefully the mother sees it too and has learned from it.
Mr_Volkstaat 3y ago
Like that's ever gonna happen.
Kryto-Kun 3y ago
seriously. a lot of women let emotion overpower their logic
jakethegreatwhite 3y ago
I thought women thought with emotion in the first place?
iainmf 3y ago
Everybody does.
Kryto-Kun 3y ago
it's not like they can't think logically. you wouldn't see women settle for unnactractive wealthy men if that was the case
gamessuck00 3y ago
Thing is they don’t settle, most of these women live uncaged lives where they do as they will until divorce time where they become baronesses.
xNOM 3y ago
That's not logic. That's greed, insecurity, and/or lack of agency.
jakethegreatwhite 3y ago
To put this rough, women have "golddigging" ingrained in their DNA, so that makes sense
Qui_Gon_Fishing 3y ago
i mean honestly that's their version of natural selection lol
goodmod 3y ago
Not all of them, at all!
When my partner of 11 years split up with me, it was friendly. We shared our possessions fairly and without any arguments. It broke my heart, but we had to do it.
Also, don't generalise women like that or I'll ban you.
jakethegreatwhite 3y ago
Uhh, just so you know, threatening to ban someone with a different opinion isn't the best way to actually CHANGE an opinion, its also awful to think in absolutes, i said "roughly" for a reason in which i actually meant that women tend to try and find men who can take care of them and their offspring which could be roughly described as "gold digging" and obviously not the chicks who change their minds with a look of a sports car
goodmod 3y ago
I know that. There's a sticky post about our policies at the top of the main page right now.
Have an opinion, but don't say it applies to all women, because it doesn't.
gamessuck00 3y ago
It’s more the selfishness, there is this internal need to be everything to the children they create. A father usually understands that a child is their own entity and allows that child to grow into the adult they will become.
You can see this fact by the fact women call men out for being standoffish with their children without understanding the simple fact that they don’t let their children breathe because it’s all about them and indoctrination of all their beliefs.
Decent_Priority 3y ago
This is the truth, there is a big difference in our perceptions of children. Like for me if I was a father and had a 16 year old son arrested for shoplifting, my first inclination would not to be to run down to the jail and post bail for his dumb ass.
It would be to let him sit there for 3 days and wait to appear before a judge so he’s hopefully scared shitless the entire time, to learn his lesson and never do it again.
But a mother is like 99% to freak out, fly down there, captain save-a-ho him, and then bitch because the store discriminated against her perfect baby that “could not have done anything wrong and never hurt nobody”.
The coddling is disgusting honestly and coddling is how we get these men today that protest at feminism rallies in the hopes of that 0.001% shot at fat pig feminism pussy.
Like when you see one of those men wearing a shirt that says “women are the future”.
You know that idiot was coddled his whole life.
Of course I’m not throwing shade at single moms, there are plenty out there that will raise a good son and have done so already, but I would say it’s typical for a woman raised boy to be a total stick in the mud...
gamessuck00 3y ago
It reflects some cultural and societal trends we are recently seeing and I agree. It’s proof positive why both need be involved for the proper human to emerge.
NohoTwoPointOh 3y ago
Recent as in the 1970's? At least in the USA, the decline began in the late '60's with LBJ's welfare "reforms" that incentivized the destruction of the family unit. Some will argue that no-fault divorce was the burning rag in this Molotov cocktail. I cannot disagree.
gamessuck00 3y ago
I would be specific but considering Paw Patrol is contraband these days I’ll just let you figure it out as to what right now means.
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NohoTwoPointOh 3y ago
Perhaps you are exaggerating "all the time".
Otherwise, your father failed you or he simply could not muster enough horsepower to burn through the tough, J-2 offsuit genetic hand that you were dealt. Emotional control and regulation is one of the beautiful masculine gifts that has allowed us to triumph over extreme adversity and build all of the beautiful things that we enjoy. When fee-fees trump logic, chaos reigns.
Leafguy67 3y ago
You might be male but you're no man.
MBV-09-C 3y ago
Hypergamy is a very real thing that keeps cropping up. It's most prominent in the younger women in like their early 20s that think they can get away with practically anything and deserve only the best men that treat them like princesses just because they look nice. That's not an incel view, mate, that's just simply how they see themselves and some will even outright admit it to you.
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MBV-09-C 3y ago
Ah, yes, the classic, unbeatable argument tactic, insulting the guy that disagrees with you without addressing the topic. You weren't kidding when you said your emotion overpowers your logic.
Whatdoin27 3y ago
Man you're a fucking idiot.
Kryto-Kun 3y ago
nah he's aware of the fact that he's ugly.
it's those emotional soy bluepillers like you that keep asking yourselves those questions.
if your emotion overpowers logic you're obvously low T and likely gay too. am I right mate? in which case you're basically a virgin in my eyes.
LionVenom10 3y ago
Homophobia? In in Men’s fucking rights? Man get the fuck out of here, go to MGTOW or some incel forum, you shouldn’t be in this sub if you hate men this much.
Kryto-Kun 3y ago
I don't hate men I was hating on him you nugget.
& you think i hate men, then reccomend incel & mgtow forums?
you're an absaloute gobshite tbh man
LionVenom10 3y ago
You’re using gay as an insult, a lot of gay guys are probably manlier than you’d ever be.
Yeah Incel forums are obsessed with hating on successful men instead of working on themselves.
Kryto-Kun 3y ago
obviously cope mate.
we all know gay men go hand in hand with low t.
I'd seriously bet a disproportionate amount of gay men are below the average in terms of height & face too. least in my experience.
if you're masculine & gay good for you but you sure as hell are the exception
LionVenom10 3y ago
Instead of worrying about the level of hormones in other men, keep it to your toxic ass. You have no right, absolutely no right, to judge on what’s masculine and what isn’t, idc if that’s what your incel forum says, but you aren’t sounding any better than a misandrist.
This is a sub for all men, regardless of sexuality, we are here to support men of all shapes, sizes and nationality. And I will not stand idly by while you degrade gay men on a subreddit that’s meant to protect their freedom.
Mr_Volkstaat 3y ago
I've met and am friends with homosexuals who use the term 'gay' as an insult, not as an attack someone's sexuality (that would be ironic) but on that person's behaviour.
It's like black guys using the N-word. They're not racist for using it, and not every black man gets offended if, say, a white guy says 'nigga' (depending on how he uses it).
It's a rather similar principle in that regard.
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nathanielsnider 3y ago
it absolutely is a debate, and I'm sorry that the women in your life were so terrible that you think that
but this shit is the reason why these subs will never be respected
stop that
gamessuck00 3y ago
Why post inflammatory shit like this if you don’t want people to react, pretty sure this in particular is very real for many of the followers.
There are groups of people you’re never going to win over, this idea that you can is why stuff like our court system exists. When you back down you get fucked. You stop.
nathanielsnider 3y ago
this woman is horrible
seriously horrible
but that doesn't make all women horrible
gamessuck00 3y ago
Of course not, but it is plural and systemic... if it weren’t why would we be here?
I think that has to be implicit that you can criticize large collections of a group of people without having to clarify that you mean every single representative of the group.
However I don’t mind clarifying once that is not my intent. ONCE.
LuckyKiwi2 3y ago
Get out of this subreddit if you’re going to say that. You’re going to get us all removed -_-
gamessuck00 3y ago
no rules were broken, control yourself.
Capprcases 3y ago
get a load of this simp
gamessuck00 3y ago
Right?! They’re everywhere!
LuckyKiwi2 3y ago
I don’t care if no rules were broken. It’s not a true fact and it’s hateful.
gamessuck00 3y ago
Sounds pretty oppressive to not allow for opinions on inflammatory topics... I’m done, reply no more.
LuckyKiwi2 3y ago
So you want to make a point and then tell me not to reply to it? Of course I’m going to reply to it. It’s not an opinion, it’s scientifically false. Did you even read the comment???
gamessuck00 3y ago
Not reading this one either, that’s what happens when someone says “don’t reply”.
LuckyKiwi2 3y ago
You’re a dumbass, don’t reply
Rodion-Raskolnikov 3y ago
Fucking fat ugly piece of garbage
WombleWrestler 3y ago
That poor poor man. I'd be gutted if that were me. I am so sorry for that man and little girl
gamessuck00 3y ago
This is why children don’t have fathers, this shit needs to be played in actual kangaroo “justice” circles so those shitbag domestic court judges can realize how bullshit it is to be a single father.
I watched a man who was making $2,500 a month and gets 1 day with his child a week have to fork out $950 a month! In child care and that’s not even INCLUDING INSURANCE! How is that mother fucker going to even live, let alone be able to not be bitter and angry at everything, including what that child has put that man into.
The system is fucking designed to make men angry about being fathers, and women have exploited this out of their own narcissism of “he left me................. and my child!” Children are weapons to these garbage human beings, and I’m sick of seeing it and people denying it!
bigjdman 3y ago
at one point my dad had to survive on $200 a month because my retard mom spent atleast $100 at bars every night while my dad starved, I fucking hate the court system. we need to reset it, fire every fucking judge
MeatyDogFruit 3y ago
I get what you’re saying, but some judges should be celebrated for their equal rulings, maybe not even close to the majority of judges, but some.
DollarBucksBot 3y ago
Ah, yes. seventy dollar bucks
rahsoft 3y ago
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given the recent furore over the death of a black man( and I'm saying this respectfully so don't jump on me ok). We have this issue that protestors are always overlooking.
that african american households with children have a rate of about 75% fatherliness . that is to say that only 25% of those kids have their fathers.
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this issue was cited by the NAACP as the most important issue affecting the community, not the police brutality. But protestors do nothing more than crickets, just like feminists are about the rights of fathers...
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the family courts are amongst the most ignorant ( and i would cowardly) about protecting children. They don't have the spine to say NO this is wrong, wrong for the children to be treated like a possession rather than a person who has a shared identity
gamessuck00 3y ago
Thank you for having the balls to provide thoughtful commentary, I know that has become taboo these days.
rreot 3y ago
And 90%+ of school shooters are fatherless
rahsoft 3y ago
ouch...
mynameisevan01 3y ago
Woman: braindead braindead braindead braindead WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO braindead braindead braindead braindead braindead braindead braindead braindead
asdf333aza 3y ago
No custody of child, but we still expect you are be financially responsible for that child.
Cookiedoughjunkie 3y ago
watch the full episode, this woman is a monster. The man was in the child's life more than her, paying the woman for the little girl's life, and even driving 150 miles every weekend JUST to spend time with her
She wanted to keep using that girl as a weapon against him, and defrauded the system by lying about him being the father.
as much as he probably won't, I want him to sue her for the money due to the fraud. and hell, add emotional distress.
SirisIB01 3y ago
I didn’t want to comment on this because my anger and pure fucking hatred for this woman is so intense that I can’t describe it in words. I’ve seen this video on YouTube and it makes my heart break every time. I can LITERALLY barely watch without bracing myself for her cheer.
LordDiamyo 3y ago
I'm right there with you mate. The injustice infuriates me so much.
taoofmojo 3y ago
Legal obligation!!!!! This is America now!!!!!!!! Welcome to your new slave master 240lb woman who doesn't want to fuck you and the kid isn't even yours. This is America now.... Surly lawyer would fight this DNA test?
licknsuckus 3y ago
Wow what a pig! And you wounder why men have gone MGTOW its because of sluts like her! Fuck
SukaPahpah 3y ago
My BIL has two children with a woman who left with them. No contact whatsoever. We pray his daughters are safe. I feel horrible for the man in the clip. Fuck that lady.
Hamburger-Queefs 3y ago
It's disgusting that this is even a show.
Atriplex124 3y ago
The fact they have a tv show over this with the child in the middle like some consulation prize is disgusting. Society is fucked.
eyecebrakr 3y ago
I've seen this a number of times, and as a father of a 2 year old daughter, my heart still breaks for this man each time. Fucking cunt of a woman.
YourRecruiter 3y ago
Yet she still got custody
Ahielia 3y ago
Legally she's the "only" (biological) parent, the court can't just grant custody to a random man.
kurzweilfreak 3y ago
It can only extort child support from random men.
YourRecruiter 3y ago
Is he not the biological father? I don't watch this so I don't really know the full context.
Ahielia 3y ago
You didn't watch the 3 minute clip? Huh, okay.
18 seconds in the judge says he's not the father, and the mother starts cheering vehemently, raising her arms, even pointing her fingers at the man in what I can only assume is a way to say "suck it!".
The judge then spends the next 2 minutes essentially berating the cheering woman for being a horrible mother/woman for acting like that. How she should be very sad and compassionate that the man essentially lost a child, and the child lost a father. INstead of having a father who loves her, she might now grow up with either no father in the picture at all, or knowing that her biological father wants absolutely nothing to do with her - as the mother does not even know who the father could be.
I feel very sad for the child for having to grow up with a mother like that. If she could act like that on national television, how is she at home?
YourRecruiter 3y ago
I watched the clip, I guess I misunderstood when the judge said he wasn't the father. I thought she was talking in a legal sense or something.
kyuuk3tsuki 3y ago
The most exercise she's accomplished in probably a decade
DaddyMomLegs 3y ago
Everytime i see this video, i feel for this man. The mother of that child is, herself, a child.
rahsoft 3y ago
makes you wonder ..Where is her father???
oliefish 3y ago
In the full version the judge goes off on her.
FairyFox2003 3y ago
I've seen this episode of paternity court
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Karen.
GotSomeMemesBoah 3y ago
:(
Wolf0133 3y ago
Sheldon was right, you need a contract for everything
youhavebeenwobbled 3y ago
And he’ll probably still pay child support :/
yogibearandthekid 3y ago
Yep children are just pawns in a game to women like this. Great judge in shit society that has broken down the family unit.
Owen_slaughter 3y ago
I'm a 52 year old man. A man's man. I just cried watching this.
Lagkiller 3y ago
You and me both brother
Revorob 3y ago
The judge is right. That fat white ho is trash.
mhandanna 3y ago
The following was deleted from menslib and feminism reddits for some reason, but here it is:
Father Factor in Education – Fatherless children are twice as likely to drop out of school.
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mhandanna 3y ago
Jokes aside, I have discussed this before prominent feminists works particularly in 2nd wave which have shaped modern feminism now and are read widely by young impressionable women and men in university were written by people like dworkins, mackinon, solanas etc... they literally had PTSD,in some cases schizophrenia, were raped, abused, beaten, abandoned, were often fat and ugly (not a judgment but I mean were outcast and had severe body image issues and self control problems), on drugs, etc.... this obvuously affected their works which became prominent feminists works!! and now shape feminism... it really isnt a joke when you say feminism is a hatefilled, hysterical, crazy movement as the guiding texts are dervived from this type of thinking
BadBluud 3y ago
This was removed because although it may be true, where are the statistics to prove why those homes are fatherless? Additionally, where are the statistics about things related to motherless homes. You are posting these statistics showing the importance of a father without giving any insight as to why. It's like saying 1 out of 6 violent crimes are committed by Chinese people. Well no shit because 1/6 of the world population is Chinese.
If you want to have a real conversation, bring that information to the table as well. Otherwise you come off an asshole.
Mr_Volkstaat 3y ago
So you're saying Chinese people are criminals? And please use actual ststistics rather than pulling some pseudostatistical example out of your ass, otherwise your argument lacks legitimacy.
BadBluud 3y ago
I'm saying that all people are just as likely to be violent criminals. Same as if I said 15% of violent criminals are white because 15% of the world is white.
Mr_Volkstaat 3y ago
That's not true according to official stats.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2782848/
BadBluud 3y ago
That's the US. I said the world population.
Mr_Volkstaat 3y ago
US isn't anything too special with those stats. And southern Africa is known for being the world's biggest crime center.
BadBluud 3y ago
The population of the US doesn't accurately represent the world though. And crime usually follows poverty, not race or region.
Mr_Volkstaat 3y ago
But poverty does.
PunkerWannaBe 3y ago
He brings the statistics that prove his point, if you want you can show what you want to prove.
BadBluud 3y ago
What point did he prove?
Mr_Volkstaat 3y ago
That the vast majority of violent criminals come from fatherless homes.
BadBluud 3y ago
Yeah sure, but why? I'm not arguing that those aren't facts I'm saying just posting statistics with no point of discussion comes off as very pointed.
Mr_Volkstaat 3y ago
https://www.all4kids.org/news/blog/why-fatherhood-engagement-matters/
BadBluud 3y ago
I don't care about this information. I'm saying he should post more why fathers are important in a home rather than a wall of statistics.
Mr_Volkstaat 3y ago
That's literally what I sent you, ignoramus. I'm not going to spell it out for you.
BadBluud 3y ago
What are you talking about? I'm saying I don't care about why, just like my original comment. I was just saying to OP if you are gonna post a wall of stats about the importance of men in a feminism subreddit, it's probably gonna get removed if you don't give a reason. Why are you trying to convince me of anything.
Factushima 3y ago
It is so annoying people think court tv is real court. It's not.
lilpandaboy1325 3y ago
Just saying, this is even worse then just "cheering for custody." This woman cheered because the little girl wasn't his. She cheered because she destroyed two peoples lives. She is fucking horrible, that little girl had a father who loved her and she ripped it away because what? He cheated on her? She's a monster.
Edit: typing to fast and forgot the word 'on'
Tak7ics 3y ago
Wasn't his child, doesn't sound like he was the only one.
lilpandaboy1325 3y ago
Did you not watch the video? She took him to court over paternity because he cheated. And clearly it was mutual if the kid wasn't his. However that means that she literally knew there was a chance the kid wasn't his and only did this to hurt him.
-WolfChop- 3y ago
I saw this one a while back, psycho
shroud01 3y ago
from what they said she wanted the divorce because she thought he cheated - but he's found out not to be the father, doesn't that mean that she was the one that cheated
makesime23 3y ago
Elementary my dear Watson !
moongb34n 3y ago
This gents is why you go MGTOW
Chasew301 3y ago
What does that mean?
Trind 3y ago
Men Going Their Own Way
Aracnida 3y ago
It means Men Going Their Own Way. It also uses the video to attribute to all women what a few do. If all women were the way that this woman was, all men would already be going their own way.
ZeldaVelveeta 3y ago
I went down the rabbit hole of the MGTOW sub a few times. Came across a post where a man said he would not help a woman if he knew she was being raped. The comments.....it really devolved.
f__ckyourhappiness 3y ago
And now you see what it really is. There are support groups for men or women, then there are hate groups for either. This happens to be the latter.
Lagkiller 3y ago
I wouldn't call them a hate group. Their response is due to things like this video. Much like vigilante justice. Some people will take the noble route of apprehending criminals and turning them into authorities and some will take justice into their own hands. Both turned away from a system that harmed them, one just takes it past a reasonable level.
nforne 3y ago
Having recently separated I have no intentions of getting into another relationship, so I guess I'm kind of going my own way and am looking forward to the future.
If that was the sole focus of MGTOW I'd be all for it as a kind of support network. But for guys who don't want to settle down they obsess an awful lot about women.
f__ckyourhappiness 3y ago
After having $200k stolen from me "legally" by my ex, I now only keep close friends and fuckbuddies. You don't have to get married to settle down and enjoy life with someone, but MGTOW takes it a step further and says "fuck women amirite they deserve rape for not letting me use them".
Bluelabel 3y ago
This stems from the man stepping in fearing he gets dragged into the charge.
There's too many ways stepping into that situation, even with good intent, can get turned on you.
ZeldaVelveeta 3y ago
It stems from hatred of women.
Bluelabel 3y ago
No it doesn't.
It stems from a continued railroading of men into subservient societal slaves whereby they are seen as replaceable providers and are severely punished for not adhering to radical feminist propaganda idealism.
ZeldaVelveeta 3y ago
Dude I got fucked financially in my (almost, left state) divorce. I don't blame all men. I'm the provider for my family. According to MGTOW, women like me don't exist. According to MGTOW, all women do is take dicks and money.
Bluelabel 3y ago
That is completely incorrect. Anyone who tells you that is misinformed, even and especially men.
MGTOW is about that men going their own way. Women as dick takers is a complete misogynistic view of the movement and one that does it a lot of harm. There are extremes in every movement and this is one. unfortunately for men who take the MGTOW view and apply it respectfully are being tainted with the extremist brush.
There is also a WGTOW which is the female version which struggles with the same extremist views.
It seems you and I in our views and experiences are in the minority.
I hope you are in a better state financially and in well being than you were during your divorce.
ZeldaVelveeta 3y ago
If going one's own way glorifies rape of the sex you're going away from....disgusting. It was a popular post on a very toxic subreddit. Go your own way? Just go. And thanks.
f__ckyourhappiness 3y ago
It means suck dick instead. They're so uber alpha Chad that they decided taking it up the ass was less effeminate then trying to make relationships work with women.
Phil-Michaels 3y ago
"Yay, I'm a skank!"
nic_n1x 3y ago
Total trash.
rahsoft 3y ago
who has now being archived on the internet( which never forgets)
mom is going to be having kittens explaining why she did that to her daughter when she gets older. If she is really unlucky she might run away( sadly) or become dysfunctional..
..and I assumed that next to that woman was her own mother ( notice no father either)
so the child is going to be looking at a wicked grandmother...
NAWALT_VADER 3y ago
The title is inaccurate. This is far worse than a woman getting custody of a child.
This is a woman who has previously convinced this man he was the father of a child when in fact he was not. This is a woman who has previously convinced a child that this man was her father when he was not. This woman is vile.
She is a horrible example of a human being. She cheated. She lied. She destroyed the life of this man. She destroyed the life of her child. There is nothing she can do to rectify the harm she has wreaked on this man and her own daughter. She deserves every bit of hatred she will receive from both of those individuals for the rest of her life.
I would like to see a #MeToo movement to expose these sorts of women on the same sort of public forum as men of similar crimes have been exposed. Social equality. There are as many bad women as there are bad men. They deserve exposure too. For equality.
mimiczx 3y ago
r/trashy
jlevy1126 3y ago
Some people are disgusting.
Z3pilin 3y ago
Reminds me way too much of my parents. I hate this more than words can express.
_Senjogahara_ 3y ago
The entire thing that they made this a show is just terrible ...
jfastman 3y ago
she thought she was on Jerry Springer
xCAPTAINxTEXASx 3y ago
Typical fucking Karen
BraveNewNight 3y ago
The judge comes from a community which is running rampant with women like her. Just outrage and frustration.
rahsoft 3y ago
this be the one where only 25% of their households with children have a father?
rahsoft 3y ago
Im sorry to see this man who gave a child that he thought was his love. he was fortunate that he even had the chance
my ex deliberately denied me legal process twice for custody and used a sharia court in the Middle East to take custody in secret.
And these are countries that withhold visitation from the other parent or make it so strict that to even miss one ever is to lose any parental rights forever. I was denied my rights as I was not in the country, nor would they deal with the domestic violence/abuse inflicted upon a disabled child and disabled father...
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I used to hear stories from people whose partner "stole" their child legally, and then systematically did every thing to make the other parent fail to see their child and deny them their parental rights..
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this crap in the UK, Europe, US, Canada, Australia about the best interest of the child is utter rubbish because they do nothing to stop this behaviour, enforce court rules or protect the child because they are afraid of protest groups getting them suspended/ fired etc for wrong judgement so they play it safe. They've undermined the law with cowardice.
BonelessSkinless 3y ago
I thought the judge was going to do the right thing and reverse her decision and give custody to the father. You see this fat ogre cheering like that? Cheering because she knows she's about to get guaranteed child support CASH for the next 15 years while her daughter gets scraps and grows up hating the world and degenerates into a whore to hide the pain of daddy not loving her because her fat ogre of a mother wouldn't let him see her. It's a tragic story that plays out time and time again. The judge was even like "wtf???" And the boorish mother STILL got custody. The court systems and family courts need MASSIVE reform.
ClubZlut 3y ago
Just another day.
IHazMagics 3y ago
This is more or less why I don't want kids. I just don't I could be trusting enough to go through that process and face (potentially) the consequences of a failed marriage.
TheBeanieNation 3y ago
Congrats. That kid is now far more likely to do drugs, end up in jail, drop out or commit suicide
Ulysses2281 3y ago
R/trashy
Lord_ThunderCunt 3y ago
Bet he still got stuck with child support payments.
airinnnn_n 3y ago
This judge finally did something good for once. I remember watching episodes where she always excuse the female for cheating on their significant others.
jazzy3113 3y ago
Wow, she is a Karen in the making.
cuteman 3y ago
How selfish can you be? If you can't put aside your petty bullshit for yourself at least do it for your daughter who will now be heartbroken and have no father in her life..
japanese-bo1 3y ago
horrible woman just a terrible person
a great judge handled the situation well and was comforting to the man even when his life was ruined
i think it was about he cheating on her
what he did was a terrible thing but he still doesnt deserve getting his life ruined like this
ZarkusNM 3y ago
Nope it was her cheating on him actually and she was forcing him to keep paying and lied to him even though it wasnt his child.
Heres a copy of u/Cookiedoughjunkie ‘s comment: “watch the full episode, this woman is a monster. The man was in the child's life more than her, paying the woman for the little girl's life, and even driving 150 miles every weekend JUST to spend time with her
She wanted to keep using that girl as a weapon against him, and defrauded the system by lying about him being the father.
as much as he probably won't, I want him to sue her for the money due to the fraud. and hell, add emotional distress.”
japanese-bo1 3y ago
how the hell didnt he get custody my god she is much worse than i thiught
ZarkusNM 3y ago
Thats the justice system for ya
_nightwielder_ 3y ago
A question, not really relevant.
Will we get to watch the verdict like this in Johnny Depp's defamation case against Amber Heard? It would be awesome to see the look of Heard's face.
sircocklord 3y ago
Yeah I think that case is a bit bigger than this
Mr_Volkstaat 3y ago
Depends on how you look at it, I suppose…
On one hand, you got a little kid forced away from her loving dad, who has been manipulated and exploited by his ex for money in spite of the fact that he is not her father — which is something that she knew but only revealed when it suits her.
On the other, you have a troubled man in a dirty business looking for a sliver of justice for the trauma he's been put through by his ex (also in that business) for God knows why or how long.
Honestly, (probably biased because of my parent's divorce) I personally feel like the kid's case is worse because she's gonna have to grow up under such an bitch with nobody else to turn to for support. Johnny's case is about resolving the past, hers is about her whole future.
rahsoft 3y ago
I would buy popcorns and drinks to be able to sit and watch this.
I suspect there will be calls to keep the case details private even after the final verdict because amber would be patient zero in the argument against "women don't do domestic violence..."
Allieareyouokay 3y ago
Not only that, Johnny Depp is extremely private. That would be a nightmare for him, in what is surely already a nightmare. He doesn’t deserve that.
rahsoft 3y ago
i suspect that he wont have much choice.
He has had to break that privacy in order to defend himself.
I don't wish ill upon the guy but I really hope he could air this out as an example to say that men are also victims of DV , even rich white men( that society is currently demonising). I ve been through what he has been through( without the money though) when no one believes you and yet they try to destroy your life.
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It might be cathartic for him to air it as well in that in helping others he would get better closure for his life.
Allieareyouokay 3y ago
You might just be right. I’ve also been through an abusive relationship, and it was aired out against my wishes in which about half the people I knew believed me...and that hurt me deeply. I still hide from it sometimes. I do wonder if I’d been able to have the right amount of proof and documentation at the time and not just an exit strategy and complete focus on disappearing, if that person would have been stopped from hurting others after me. I’ll never know.
Maybe Johnny will receive good advice, and he seems to have a fantastic support group of men and women who supported him through this the entire time...and that’s nice. I’m sure he understood long ago he’d have to give up some privacy for justice, he now knows abusers thrive on private people like that. But to tape the entire thing? Have the media run through it like they ran through him before? I dunno if that would feel like justice at all for him.
Just speculating though.
another_redditor1219 3y ago
I’m not crying you’re crying.
Imagine being so stuck up that you cheer about ruining a mans life. I couldn’t imagine. I want to give him and that child a hug. This is so heartbreaking.
dkg1015 3y ago
Cunt
badmother 3y ago
Yes. She's a piece of shit.
However, who the fuck thought it would be a good idea to turn a court paternity case into an entertainment show? You know, for viewers and profit.
Then, as if that wasn't enough, they'd reveal the judgement all suspensefully like a fucking game show!
I feel there would be less chance of that reaction if the whole thing wasn't dramaticised. She's in court, she's on tv, and after the big pause.... She won!
So yeah, wouldn't give her shit off my shoe, but she's not 100% at fault for reacting like she'd won wheel of fortune, but that's exactly how she felt.
Quite disturbing actually.
moria0 3y ago
Now that is one fat ugly Karen. Shame on him for even dating her.
TheRikari 3y ago
He cheated on her so she let another man get her pregnant and let him think he was the father only to do this. That's insanely far to go for revenge.
Elharion0202 3y ago
Wait is this like a tv show that’s dramatized? I’m really not sure if this is real. Somebody please fill me in.
WondrousWally 3y ago
They are real. Often times both sides have their legal fees and fines payed by the show to come on and film the "trial" Its real, and usually the Judge is a retired judge, but it is very much filmed and produced with the intent of entertainment.
nforne 3y ago
It felt a little scripted.
WondrousWally 3y ago
That is the beauty of editing. there are so many tips and tricks of that industry that they can make you see and hear whatever you want. " Adam Ruins Everything - Why Reality Shows Are Hella Fake " is a great look at some of that. If you have netflix i know its on there right now.
spacekin57 3y ago
Wait a minute who put that pig in a suit???
Valorandgiggles 3y ago
That made me cry :'(
I hate what I just watched and I'm so sorry for that man and the child... it's not right, fair or just. That lady and her cheer is vile.
trees-for-breakfast 3y ago
You can see the lightbulb go on when she hears “legal obligation, financially” Life literally returns to her face, and she responds to the judge. Scum. Scum. Scum. Scum. Scum.
MaxMantaB 3y ago
Family court is fucked
Br0nnOfTheBlackwater 3y ago
I'm not American, Is this a reality show or something?
BurningOrangeHeaven 3y ago
Theres a bunch of these "Judge X" type shows where they film some little show about peoples problems, i think judge judy is more famous
iannoyyou101 3y ago
Wow she is ugly
InflatableDartboard2 3y ago
Holy shit. What a terrible person.
dylanwood89 3y ago
I saw this video on YouTube a couple months ago and I was utterly disgusted, how can someone be that low in life. I hope when that kid grows up it realizes how much of a piece of garbage her mom is and moves in with her dad. And yes it’s her dad idc if not biologically he’s her dad and would give her a way better life.
Neveah_Hope_Dreams 3y ago
Good on that judge!!! That was awesome! I was ready to rant my comment off here until that wonderful judge spoke out what we where thinking!
I was expecting this to be another drama indused and pathetic reality show like Maury and Jerry Springer but nope! This is the most mature, honest and respectful show ever.
Who is this judge? I want to know more about her. She's so cool!
Someran_Domguay 3y ago
If he’s not the father, did SHE cheat? Like, who else would be the father?
QUALSTAR 3y ago
If she looks like a Karen, thinks like a Karen, and acts like a Karen, what is she? A Karen, of course! The most despicable creatures in existence!
BusyThought 3y ago
Is this real?
throwaway42378910 3y ago
What a bitch. It’s unfortunate that there’s so many of these types of women nowadays.
shaddoe_of_truth 3y ago
And women say men are immature. This shit makes me sick.
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rahsoft 3y ago
sorry to hear that .
did you ever get a chance to reconcile with your father?
LordDiamyo 3y ago
I'm sorry to hear this happened to you but thank you so much for sharing. I can't begin to imagine a childhood and life like that. I agree that there needs to be a lot of changes, I only hope when these changes are made that men with experiences like you are listened to.
Bluelabel 3y ago
She didn't win. No one won. It was a paternity test, not a custody hearing. Title is misleading.
Hope you're doing good now.
Reanimated1 3y ago
Fortunately I was able to choose to live with my father when I was 12. My life would be very different if not for that. My mother was both physically and mentally abusive.
m0mmyneedsabeer 3y ago
My husband found out his son wasn't his at 3 years old. He was devastated and heart broken but continued to take care of him, just stopped paying her child support. Then she got a new boyfriend and decided her son no longer needed him since she was getting paid by the bio dad and now had a boyfriend to play daddy. So we took her to court. $10,000 later (almost $20,000 but she gave in last minute), my husband gained some rights back because our state recognizes "psychological parents". He's 11 now and we still get him on the weekends and most days in the summer. He occasionally sees his bio dad but he lives in another state so it's not often.
TheSnowglobeFromHell 3y ago
Damn what a roast, she was utterly destroyed on the spot.
ChestBras 3y ago
"We have counseling for you, court is adjourned."
Really sums up how men get treated. She was fine having pity on him while it was being used to make the mom feel bad, but at the end of the day it's "ok, we're done, go fix yourself".
rahsoft 3y ago
To be fair what else did you think she could do?
this is a tv show and she showed more compassion than a court normally does as they never have to deal with the consequences of their decision.
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if it was shown to them the consequences of the children of divorce losing their fathers in their lives in as little as five years and then they were held accountable for their actions, then they would actually make better decisions..
Mikejones2756 3y ago
Bruh, this is ridiculous. Stop crying and make your own child.
benny_da_boi1139 3y ago
What’s that even supposed to mean