Apparently this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wen9pI8iDZU is making the rounds on the 'chans and some MGTOW forums. A very very bitter Billy Beta attempts to lay a guilt trip on his wife for her refusal to have sex with him in months. I find the video difficult to watch, but I'm impressed with the stoic nature of the wife, who clearly DNGAF what her nagging husband has to say about anything. It's almost like a gender role reversal where the husband comes in to henpeck his wife and annoy her while she's relaxing in bed reading her phone or playing vidya or something. And while he nags and berates her there is a small child in the room. Maybe this is an extreme example of what not to do, maybe this is not all that uncommon in a lot of marriages. But this guy pretty much does the opposite of everything we recommend around here, and it clearly isn't working for him (or her.)
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- Begging for sex doesn't work
- Doing housework and vacuuming for sex doesn't work
- Screaming and yelling like a little kid doesn't work
- Blaming your wife for the lack of sex doesn't work
- Threatening divorce for sex doesn't work
- Calling names and making threats for sex doesn't work
- Having zero frame and nagging and henpecking for sex doesn't work
I'm sure I missed a few more. It's like a Red Pill Public Service Announcement or After-School Video. Notice the guy doesn't say anything much about himself, it's all about her, in his mind. He probably says "you this" and "you that" a few hundred times. Shockingly the wife and kid hold frame just fine through this, like passengers on a train trying to ignore a toddler throwing a temper tantrum.
The poor bloke needs to reinvent himself from scratch almost. Instead of uploading videos of him acting like a psycho he could have done a couple sets of squats and deadlifts...
DON'T BE THIS GUY!
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BluepillProfessor 6y ago
Dread game is not a cruel trick. It is the way you turn on women. This is the secret hack. If this guy stopped begging and whining and simplify the house she would be eager to fuck right about the time he started getting attention from other women. This is the hack and the only thing that works.
moonchildcountrygirl 6y ago
The kid next to her in the crib on a phone or tablet.... wow this shit is bleak. That people really live like that
0io- 6y ago
I know. It's grim. Unfortunately I think it's pretty common these days.
moonchildcountrygirl 6y ago
It could just as easily be WGTOW the way hes speaking to her. Frankly they’re both gross
0io- 6y ago
I certainly don't blame her for not wanting to be with that guy. I wouldn't want to be treated like that! He needs to do a ton of work to fix himself before he could be with anyone, IMHO.
pisstowine 6y ago
No one likes a perpetual victim, especially not the spouse of said victim. They are ignoring him because this happens all the time.
screechhater 6y ago
Yawn. He is such a victim.
yyiiii 6y ago
Bingo. Cringeyawn
MrChad_Thundercock 6y ago
Wife is just a reflection of yourself. She’ll treat you as shitty as you allow her.
InChargeMan 6y ago
Yep. Nearly everything in life is some version of a process where shit in gets you shit out with varying degrees of randomness. You work hard at something, you are more likely to succeed. You don't work hard, you are more likely to fail. Act like a beta chump, you get what a beta chump deserves.
BluepillProfessor 6y ago
The way to deal with this kind of woman is simple and well characterized by now.
DREAD GAME works. Crying and begging don't work. Ignoring the sex denying wife and putting yourself in position for finding somebody better works every single time. You may not stay married- but she WILL fuck you if you follow the stages of Dread Game. Or you will find somebody better. You can give her the choice so long as it is a choice.
sexy_essex 6y ago
Standard Married Red Pill curriculum! RTFSB. Read the fucking side bar. I learned a lot from you, BluePillProfessor. Keep it up, baby.
grumpieroldman 6y ago
The OP is operating at about -12. Seems like a troll.
RPWolf 6y ago
Tl;dr - You can’t negotiate desire.
SKRedPill 6y ago
But you can create it, either fresh or refresh (assuming of course that there is some spark of your past attraction still left).
Some relationships are indeed really dead.
suprathepeg 6y ago
I don’t think I was ever this bad but watching this made me cringe at my former self.
Fuck men are lost. I imagine there are so many homes where this happens.
RedPillCoach 6y ago
It has been normalized and the women absolutely get off on the power of watching their husband squirm, beg, and ideally, cry. They could get off banging him also but I think this way is much more fun for them.
Realcirca247 6y ago
Agreed. Get it elsewhere or just ditch the bitch entirely. Easy fixes imo.
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samdepp2018 6y ago
Hope that she washed her mouth before giving you a BJ
Big_B0y_B3pIs 6y ago
Why was she shopping at midnight?
holyshocker 6y ago
3 litlle kids and she left at their bedtime 8ish. She slow af.
Big_B0y_B3pIs 6y ago
Gotcha, damn that’s rough. But good on you.
AForceNinja 6y ago
She was shopping from 8pm - 3am?
InChargeMan 6y ago
The branch store.
Kpwn88 6y ago
The lumber yard
holyshocker 6y ago
She got home at 1 but stayed up wrapping.
Frosteecat 6y ago
What stores are open at midnight??
holyshocker 6y ago
Walmart she went to target before it closed.
[deleted] 6y ago
She is cheating bro. That BJ was because she felt bad about what she had been up to. Nobody is shopping from 8pm when the kids go to bed and is still shopping at midnight. Good luck to you man.
red-sfpplus 6y ago
Man you fags are so deep in the female frame.
It is Christmas time. OP ITT is clearly a disorganized faggot which means his wife is as well.
It is 100% probable scatter brained wife is out shopping till 3am at Walmart like looser do. I am sure she had to wait till the Dec 15th paycheck to gather enuf money for presents to.
Why? Cause OP is a fag who doesn’t manage his shit. Wife doesnt manage her shit.
Yall are a bunch of sperg fags.
FFDGTDS 6y ago
There’s a line in Women’s Infidelity II, something like, men who cheat buy flowers, women who cheat give blowjobs.
BluepillProfessor 6y ago
Dude should have definitely sampled that stretchy little hole for signs of recent use.
hidemyface1234 6y ago
By now he can probably differentiate the flavor of each guy in his neighborhood
holyshocker 6y ago
Women love to shop. She's a sahm and I've been on 6 10s at work for a while now so she hasn't had much her time.
red-sfpplus 6y ago
Aw poor baby SAHM. Nothing says you are a real man like slaving away 60 hours a week for a job that will replace you within two weeks of you dying and for a stressed out SAHM who needs her “her time.”
And nothing says “her time” like grazing up and down every isle of target and walmart looking for made in China presents for your kids.
Give me a fucking break.
Be the man that doesn’t even call her at midnight.
You have more important things to do than worry about what isle at walmart your land whale is in.
Like sleep.
Tbonesupreme 6y ago
HAHAHAHHAHAHA
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red-sfpplus 6y ago
Nice job taking a solid hit to the chin.
You might make it kid.
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red-sfpplus 6y ago
Make yourself dinner and go to bed. Dont say a fucking word to her. Let her play the game all night.
Rinse and repeat until she comes to talk to you. And when she does smile and say nothing. Acknowledge nothing.
Do not accept the bait.
And dont ever call on the drive home again. Faggot.
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red-sfpplus 6y ago
Go ahead and see how that works out for you.
High Value Men reward good behavior by providing their time and attention to other people.
Not by saying - dont play that game come spend time with me.
civilizedfrog 6y ago
Lol. He must be a troll. He has a video of him sitting in a shed while you can hear his wife getting some in the background. He is literally in his cuckshed.
ShotgunTRP 6y ago
Link this vid plz. I can’t find it
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2kviE5D2GE
[deleted] 6y ago
I would have assumed she was getting mauled by a dog.
[deleted] 6y ago
It can’t be real surely. I wasted my time watching a few of his other videos.
[deleted] 6y ago
Wow I really feel sorry for the kids. Going to grow up with two disastrous human beings as parents. What a sad world.
RickTickTickyshaw 6y ago
This is a great reflection on how much this guy doesn't see himself as the problem. Thanks for sharing this here.
grumpieroldman 6y ago
He's not the only problem. She is a train-wreck.
The whole point is that train-wreck you up and married isn't motivating herself unto a treadmill.
It's all on you now.
JameisBong 6y ago
He is the problem and he doesn't see it. He picked a cunt for a wife that had red flags before he married her. Fuck him, he needs to get his shit and leave. Fuck her and that cuck baby.
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grumpieroldman 6y ago
If he was an alpha he would not be giving hookers the time of day.
Strip_Bar 6y ago
New to this, so can you not call a women out on her Shit without losing frame? I mean wouldn’t it be more beta to never say a word and just suffer?
Sepean 6y ago
Those are not the only 2 options.
Understand that she will continue to make you suffer after calling her out on her shit. In fact you make it worse by bitching about it if you’re beta.
The cause of her behavior is the man’s lack of frame and game, that’s what needs to fixed.
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The mindful Attraction Plan, pretty sure it's in the Sidebar, buy it, read it, several times, the kindle version is dirt cheap. That book was my introduction to this sphere and its saved my marriage. It answers a ton of questions.
grumpieroldman 6y ago
You absolutely can. He didn't come to close to that.
Probably not compared to what the OP is doing. If you did and said nothing at all you'd be operating at a low dread level because stonewalling is a communication barrier and if she was still engaged in life or marriage she would notice and react. His trainwreck is already down several stages of depression so low-level dread isn't going to work but it would still be better than making things even worse and digging a deeper emotional hole for her to wallow in.
The next thing he ought to do is 1) clean the house, 2) feed the kid, 3) leave without a word.
This leaves her with 1) nothing to do to distract herself, 2) drops the next communication bomb that I'm not telling you when I'm leaving or where am I going. Her hamster is dead; the ship is stock on the rocks. That's when you start using dynamite (dread-levels) to ajar the ship and get her hamster going again. Every time you escalate you risk blowing the whole thing up. If you skip a bunch of steps and go dread-level 10 for a dread-level 1 problem then a (relatively) mentally healthy woman will divorce you. Because of a quirk in the way human psychology works if you have a bunny-boiler/bipolar one if you go dread-10 for, say, a dread-4 issue then once the marriage finally starts improving she may well kill herself (for realz, not star-spangled-tingles).
This is why IDGAF is important and why going through a progression is important. If you're still at a point in the marriage that she'll talk to you and make changes - i.e. she's trying then don't do any dread. Just some hamstering to stay or get more interesting. Work on you while asking her to work on her and start work on you first. But if she's checked out then either 1) you stay and suffer like a gump, 2) leave outright, or 3) do everything you possibly can to make things better first. Which ones sounds like the alpha that takes down the bull by the horns and sounds like the least likely thing for anyone to actually do?
No cleaning the house does not make her wet. What cleaning the house yourself does is drill a message into her head that you do not need her to keep a house clean. As you improve yourself and become more responsible you start undercutting the codependency of your marriage. This ought to induce anxiety in her which is the motivation of a non-alpha. There are dread-levels beyond fucking the babysitter on the kitchen-table while your wife is home and those involve positioning yourself as fully capable of raising the children without her (get a majority of the custody-points) and cutting her out of everyone's life entirely.
Also, one of the most stressful times during marriage is when one partner is improving and becoming more responsible than the other one. Don't turn your improvements into something she's done wrong by being the same (that's not leading).
SorcererKing 6y ago
Hit the sidebar. I'm betting WNS temp bans you for annoying him.
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the medium is the message... once you understand that you will be free of gynocentrism and can actually love a woman
0io- 6y ago
If he walked in the bedroom, gave her a kiss, and said "See you later, honey, I'm off to the the gym, why don't you make some fried rice and a salad for later. Bye!" I suspect she'd be doing a lot more around the house. Eventually she'd be in the "Aww do you have to go to the gym again? I never see you. I'm lonely...stay here with me!" "Sorry babe, have to go hunting this weekend, back in 3 days." You get the idea. The whole dynamic there is sick and dysfunctional. She should be the one asking him who he's having sex with when he's out of the house so much. Eventually she'd be asking her friends or searching reddit to find out why her husband never stays home with her, and someone would suggest maybe she should try cooking and cleaning and making sure he's getting plenty of sex...
surfsusa 6y ago
Works like a charm. I did this. I changed my look, New wardrobe style,Got a new Job in a field that has mostly women colleagues in it. A lot of my customers were Professional women most of them single. I was away on business a lot more than I had been in the past. When we would go to industry functions and other women would start flirting with me in front of her and would want to sit next to me at the tables to continue flirting. Boy did my wife flip a switch. She started accusing me of affairs but I had no problems in the bedroom at home.
deathtrader666 6y ago
What industry? What was your job role please?
screechhater 6y ago
We don’t see a picture of him, but we do a peak into his lack of leadership in the video
His attacking her verbally is very unattractive, just as his oneitis, couple that with poor vetting, and he is, well “unfuckable”.
Being new, I suggest you start lifting weights right away. Read the sidebar and make the mental shift, that this is for your happiness
Frosteecat 6y ago
I watched some of his other vids (because morbid trainwreck fascination). He looks like he has an old red catcher’s mitt for a face. And hangs out in his creepy garage making creepy masks or some shit. Dude needs to look in a mirror.
0io- 6y ago
Probably alcoholic, I'd guess. Really needs to fix himself first before he worries about the wife's issues.
MrChad_Thundercock 6y ago
No. They reason you can’t call her out is because you are a low value beta submissive...
She’s knows you couldn’t go out tonight and fuck any strange. She’s doesn’t feelz you have options and has no incentive to please you.
Any calling her out at this point will come across as cring worthy and weak. It will lower your value even more.
The first step is to work on yourself.
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This is true right here. If your value us high enough you can call women on their shit a d they will get it in check. If your smv is low However, I agree with some of the other post that you should shut up and improve. That is first and foremost.
Kpwn88 6y ago
This is based on the same principle of when a man hits on a woman. If he is attractive, he is flirting; if he isn't, he's being a creep.
With women it doesn't matter what is being said, only who is saying it.
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You withdraw attention
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BluepillProfessor 6y ago
I advise trying to make her uncomfortable first before giving up. Some women are more dense than others and require a wake-up call before they see the light. The rate limiting step is how much you are willing to tolerate but you should give her a clear message (indirectly NOT verbally) over a period of several months before assuming she is checked out for good. They can check back in once they realize they are married to an actual man with options.
grumpieroldman 6y ago
The alpha reels the fish back in then makes his decision if he stays or he divorces.
You are describing failure-mentality to a T.
I cannot for the life me make any guesses as to why your marriage sucks. /s
organicsunshine 6y ago
That isn't my quote.
blackjustin 6y ago
Okay, so you withdraw attention - she's going to notice you've been distant and say "What's wrong?" - actually telling her seems to be the wrong thing to do - that seems to make it worse. You just say nothing and keep going?
FoxShitNasty83 6y ago
Work on yourself, be attractive don't be unattractive. If she asks what's wrong just stfu say as little as possible and go lift. Make sure it's done for you... And not for sex (covert contract)
BluepillProfessor 6y ago
You say I am busy and make it clear that you have better things to do (and eventually that you have better girls to do) than this sex denying harpy you call a "wife." You do NOT say it directly but let her infer this outcome indirectly. She will get the hint that enthusiastic sex gets her your attention while playing her games get's her nothing but fog.
0io- 6y ago
It's not really being distant. It's just being busy. The husband needs to be having lots of fun being very busy living his own life. Eventually the wife sees that the husband is always in a great mood and having lots of fun and starts saying, well, why can't you take me with you when you go [play tennis, lift weights, play guitar in the rock band, go rock climbing, camping in the woods...]
grumpieroldman 6y ago
This won't work if she is also content to be very busy having her own separate life and could contribute to the marriage further disintegrating.
You must do something that knocks her out of her comfort zone to start dread.
What you are describing is precursory stages getting your life in order and you should always be doing these things even when the marriage is great.
SKRedPill 6y ago
> This won't work if she is also content to be very busy having her own separate life and could contribute to the marriage further disintegrating.
I agree, but if the marriage is at this level of contempt, then it IS already dead. Remember, one of two things happen - your relationships changes for the better, or it gets sent to a long overdue grave. You cannot work on the end result, only the process. The end result will be in line with what the new you needs.
RedPillCoach 6y ago
Yes! You have got it. Congratulations. The problem is getting guys started just doing the cursory stages. Actually the real problem is guys failing to realize that there are clearly defined stages. Like they taught us on Battlestar Galactica- all of this has happened before and all of it will happen again.
[deleted] 6y ago
When both the woman and child seem bored of your whining, you may wanna learn to stfu and fix your shit. Mind you, it's comical to see a "freaky friday" marriage.