The core tenet of TRP is that us humans have evolved in such a way that there is a constant competition between men and women in the sexual marketplace. Equally axiomatic is the tenant that, for a man, increasing SMV leads naturally to improved sexual success. RP followers understand that SMV has real components (fitness, financial success, health) and perceived components (social status, frame, presentation). This is somewhat arbitrary, as real components can be faked in the short term, but overall it is simple to see the distinction as long as you don't overthink it.
The first advice given out of the gate to a newbie like me is to start lifting and STFU. This allows one to start building their real SMV while preventing us from further destroying their percieved SMV by beta puking all over the place, getting pulled out of our fragile frames, etc.
I'm not going to touch on percieved SMV here, since I have nothing to say on the topic that more experienced, more eloquent guys have already said here. However, I had the thought today that the real component of SMV ought to be readily quantifiable or at least approximated by comparing it to demographic data. The results of checking it out were, like most of RP, a pretty harsh realization.
Of the real SMV components, the most readily calculated were percent body fat (%bf), strength (approximated by summing 1RM of deadlift, squat, and bench press), and income. I chose to do a simple average of the three categories, because I don't think one is particularly more important for women as a whole Obviously each woman will have her own weighting; some would prefer a pudgy billionaire to an Adonis surfer bum, and some would prefer the opposite.
I started with strength. Before this exercise I would've said I am above average strength, maybe a 6 or 7. Using the widely distributed strength standards and R software, I made a totally over fit but good-enough model that lets me calculate my percentile. Now, my projected 1RM based on my history and my 5x5 weights is in the ballpark of (B: 185, S:285, D:350) for a total BSD of 820. Not bad, right?
Fucking wrong. I can go more in depth into my method of calculation when a computer is handy but here's the deciles for BSD (Note that I didn't account for weight, because your wife will leave you for a 200lb man even if you only weigh 120):
| Percentile | Total BSD |
|---|---|
| 5 | 417 |
| 10 | 486 |
| 20 | 604 |
| 30 | 698 |
| 40 | 772 |
| 50 | 837 |
| 60 | 904 |
| 70 | 988 |
| 80 | 1108 |
| 90 | 1285 |
| 95 | 1403 |
Yeah. I'm a fucking 4/10 in this category. Starting to think I don't like this game. Let's do %bf next, I'm rocking a ~20٪bf right now, if we assume lower is always better (outside of health issues or disorders that is a pretty fair assumption), let's do the same thing. Luckily this was easier to find so I'm not doing any modeling myself.
God damn it, I'm a 2/10. Fuck. At least in 3 years I will be 30 and then I'd be a 5/10.
Okay, last one is finances. I make 112K per year. I just used the first Google result here, it is messy on mobile so I'll summarize:
| Percentile | Income |
|---|---|
| 5 | $1968 |
| 10 | $7000 |
| 20 | $16024 |
| 30 | $24001 |
| 40 | $30138 |
| 50 | $39048 |
| 60 | $48335 |
| 70 | $60020 |
| 80 | $79050 |
| 90 | $114068 |
| 95 | $153420 |
I'm not at all confident with these numbers. I have a sneaking suspicion capital gains, etc. are not included, as I would have expected 95th percentile to be like 400K. If someone has a better set of criteria I will get that added in.
This has me at an 8/10, rounding down. Okay, neat.
So (4+2+8)/3 = 4.7. I'm a goddamned 4.7/10. No wonder no one is sucking my dick.
So remind yourselves, guys. It's cool to be in the 1K club, but that's only a 7/10. Sure, that's a 7/10 out of people who lift (probably much better in the general population) but it's what your wife sees.
I know exactly what my next steps are. Adding 50lbs to each lift and dropping to 15%bf would move me from a 4.7 to a 6.7, assuming I make enough strides with frame, fashion, and social life to back it up. I have some work to do.

PhaedrusHunt 6y ago
I'm not sure. I don't really lift. I'm a contractor, so my grip strength is good. I do BJJ a lot for years and I'm pretty damned good. I'm 6'4" 200 #. BF is 18 but I have defined abs so whatever. I don't really care of it looking too much because every time I muscle-bound guy comes into the gym I can just wipe the floor with them.
I saw another chart that actually looks at your chest shoulder hip and waist ratios and all that and I'm pretty much right on what is supposed to be attractive so there it is.
My wife is similar for a female, 5'8, 140#, 34,24,36. Her body is damn near perfect so I guess we match up okay haha. She looks like a Bond girl so I'm not complaining
weakandsensitive 6y ago
Not enough spreadsheets.
I remain unconvinced by this thesis.
The problem with metrics is that if you aren't defining the metrics correctly, you're measuring shit that doesn't matter. And the problem with most guys is they have no idea what to measure.
Balls_Wellington_ 6y ago
I got lots of spreadsheets but I posted from mobile, so I'm not doing the work to upload them
RStonePT 6y ago
/whoosh
InChargeMan 6y ago
What in the holy hell is this shit?
Simple question: If tomorrow you were top 95% on all of your charts, are you assuming that you would be instantly drowning in pussy?
No, you would still be sitting around naval gazing about why the skies haven't opened up and adorned you with the oceans of women you deserve. As a data point of 1, I have a very good friend who is probably 9/10 on all of your categories. Hasn't been laid in months. These things you have identified are only tools, having better tools makes the job easier, but if you don't know what the fuck to do with them it won't help.
This post belongs at MGTOW.
snakeob 6y ago
Good work on creating a scale.
You’re getting a lot of that comments that say “I’m a tough guy so you should be too, pussy, math is for fags!” Which frankly is boring and reeks of faking it till you make it.
The reality is what you’re doing here is what most of these men who are giving you shit simply do in their head.
You’re just being way more exact, which is fine if it pushes you to understand the levels you need to be at to succeed with better women.
The key is to eventually not need the table, and just feel your way through.
If anything this should build your confidence in knowing where you stand in the metric, but now it’s time to fuck the TA, professor.
red-sfpplus 6y ago
My SMV is zero on Monday to balls deep Friday.
goblinboglin 6y ago
You can't rate value based on BF
CaptJohnLukeDiscard 6y ago
I'm going to make a post about this because you clearly need some help here but before I do that, let me clue you in on something.
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Women don't care how strong you are.
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I'll repeat for the autistic crowd.
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Women don't care how strong you are.
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Women do care how strong you look but your definition of strong and hers are probably different. Women are drawn to guys who are lean through the waist with relatively wide shoulders and powerful looking arms. That means guys with a moderate to decent amount of muscles but - most importantly - sub 12% body fat. I don't mean "I stepped on the special scale at Walgreens that tells me my body fat" %. I mean true BF% such as what you get from dexa, hydrostatic, POD, etc.
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That's why Brad Pitt in Troy could put vaginas in the seats but women aren't tuning in to watch World's Strongest Man contests in similar numbers.
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Here's a quick example. I'm an amateur powerlifter which in your parlance as an engineer means I'm approximately a fuckton stronger than you. My wife does a bit of powerlifting but not competitively. She can squat over 200 and dead over 300 but she's still fairly small at 5'5 135lbs.
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She videos my heavy sessions so I can review for form check later. She knows when I hit PRs. However, if you were to ask her right now what my PRs are, I'm guessing she wouldn't have a clue.
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Why? Because the vast majority of bitches don't care how strong you are. That number means nothing to them. It's irrelevant. It's not meaningful or impactful to their lives so they don't associate a value difference between a guy who benches 275 vs a guy that benches 405. Both are just "strong" to them. However, the guy who benches 275 at 11% BF has a much better chance with a chick versus the guy who benches 405 at 18% BF.
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Ask yourself why you are tracking these numbers. Are you doing this for her so you can report back and get validation? Or are you doing this for you?
Balls_Wellington_ 6y ago
Well I mostly included strength to weight against someone with 10%bf but who can barely bench press the bar. Probably better would be bicep, chest, and waist measurements, but there should be a decent correlation to strength.
But you're right about the validation and comparisons. Way too focused on others.
DeplorableRay 6y ago
I hate to break it to you guys, but money doesn’t factor into your SMV. If she’s fucking you for your money, it ain’t because your hot. That fireman, pool boy, and even the goddamn mailman can tap that shit making nothing if they’re hawt enough. If your using money as a lure, you’re fishing the wrong way.
Persaeus 6y ago
came here to say the same thing, but
once she gets to know you, much less LTR/marriage agree 100%. however, i think money, and more exactly an expression that you actually live the "lifestyle" that money affords is a major lure . . . especially with 30+ women and on-line. mind you it's just bait, and you have to establish your not just beta bux quickly.
tldr: every woman want alpha-bux
your thoughts?
DeplorableRay 6y ago
It’s called beta bux for a reason.
Persaeus 6y ago
You’re not as smart as I gave you credit for. Oh well never mind
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Balls_Wellington_ 6y ago
Sure, I mean setting aside the fact that I've since been educated that I missed the mark totally and need to STFU, lift and read, I deliberately left frame and game out of this post. It's basically impossible to quantify, and I don't know enough to speak to it anyway.
weakandsensitive 6y ago
Enjoy the flair.
Persaeus 6y ago
this word suggest you're doing something about. what are you doing about that
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Persaeus 6y ago
Good answer, keep it up.
Make sure you getting involved in some clubs/activities/scenes so you can learn to extend rapport deeper, and more importantly to break rapport
resolutions316 6y ago
I both love and hate this post.
Love it, because charts! And also, benchmarking is very useful for personal goal setting.
Hate, because it’s core theses are completely off base.
Not low value post, though. The debate in the comments is 100% worth it.
Balls_Wellington_ 6y ago
Yeah, if nothing else having my premises torn up can help me adjust course a little bit. It's amazing how the niceguy mentality sneaks in even when I think I'm watching for it.
resolutions316 6y ago
Pretty much any analytical person who comes in here does this. Hell, you should see MY spreadsheets. I love them and they're not going away.
The biggest inversion that happens - depending on how long you're here - is realizing that 1.) Though attraction factors matter, Stacy will still bang a fat dude behind an Arby's given that he has the right frame/the circumstances are right, and 2.) trying to "climb the ladder" in order to "meet everyone else's criteria" is just betraying your own lack of frame.
Of course, attraction factors increase your overall, average attractiveness, and you NEED to do that if being generally attractive is your goal.
But the REAL PROBLEM is always that you're not your own man. You've been living your life according to other people's standards, trying to get other people's approval. And thinking that you can check the boxes is just another form of that.
We all come in seeking our wife's approval. Then, most of us switch to wanting MRPs approval. Then we seek approval and validation in other women (the sexual market place).
Hopefully, eventually, we move on to not needing any of that - to needing only our own approval, our own validation (as /u/man_in_the_world so often points out).
Ironically, that's the only way to get what we wanted in the first place.
[deleted] 6y ago
Frame, game, social status, body fat / muscles and money decide your smv. Some are intangible and currently something you can't measure so you can only experience it.
I want to build a test that has a series of questions to help determine ones frame. It would approach it from 3 angles: emotional, physical and mental. It would be great to not only ask for lifts and body fat but ask for a frame score.
Almost all problems can be alleviated by having solid frame. My man u/SBIII asked me what I wanted to get. He told me that frame would give me all of the things I listed.
Get the frame, you get the power, respect, money, pussy and social status. The rest of it is lifting and taking good care of your meat wagon.
DrillPumpProfit08 6y ago
“Frame, game, social status, body fat / muscles and money decide your smv. Some are intangible and currently something you can't measure so you can only experience it.”
It’s the Heisenberg uncertainty principle of frame: Trying to measure frame objectively messes up actually living in your frame.
Schrödinger’s Frame: The pussy is both smitten with and ignoring you until it is in your frame.
A Chapter on Frame
SBIII 6y ago
Kind of pointless tbh... if you're spending time - like the OP - trying to figure out metrics for SMV (or in your case, frame) then you're wasting your time.
Yes, you need to build frame and yes, you need to increase your SMV but neither of these are quantifiable or measurable in any meaningful sense. And if you manage to quantify or measure them, the results are pointless. It's like holding a scorecard for a game that nobody has any interest in.
What you need to do is get to the point where you no longer think about things like SMV or frame. While it's still important to keep a check on your life in order to maintain a balance in the different areas of your life, the bar you set is the bar you set for yourself and - if you have a metric for tracking your score - then the scorecard is for you and you alone.
[deleted] 6y ago
Agreed. The test would be for people asking in askmrp. It would help cut the shit with questions. Answers depend on the level of frame oftentimes. It's like black belt advice at times "Don't get put in that spot in the first place." White belts do white belt things, they can't help it. No amount of advice or showing them will help, they have to be crushed under the weight of others before my answers will have real meaning. So if folks showed up to ask advice and they had belts, it would make things much easier. Most answers will be "Keep training." which is the equivalent of stfu, lift and read.
simbarlion 6y ago
-1 point for being either an engineer or computer nerd who:
A) thought about working this out, and
B) followed through with working it out.
Go the fuck outside and do something that puts the look in your eye that you're a man of action, a man worth respecting.
Balls_Wellington_ 6y ago
You got me, I'm an engineer and it was a slow day.
simbarlion 6y ago
Good for you for working it through in your mind, I went through that phase of 'understand and rationalise' myself.
Just remember there is no magic formula. Sometimes I do my hair a different way and ioi's go through the roof. Maybe it was my hair, maybe it was the girls I walked past.
Balls_Wellington_ 6y ago
Totally valid. I'm an engineer, my dad was a carpenter...I have to break things down to process them.
Plus I thought the wake up call that I'm a lot further down the ladder than I thought was valuable
SBIII 6y ago
Whose ladder are you trying to climb?
You're an engineer. Your dad was a carpenter. You should be well able to design your own ladder and build it to your own specifications.
Nullberri 6y ago
HOLY SHIT so much selection bias. You talk about percentages then act like everyone lifts, everyone works and everyone eats right. Most people are poor, fat and lazy, and don't have success in even 1 of those domains. If you limit your numbers to only those people who are better then you, you will always be last. You seem desperate to make yourself last.
How many people do you think actually lift (by percent of population)? Enough to even know their 1rpm's...
Your fat graph is per the ACSM not by actual distribution of american waistlines.
Overweight starts at 30 bmi. let that sink in.
Your financial graph sucks too. In bumfuck no where 114k is living like a feudal lord. In Santa Monica CA, 66th percentile.
You keep trying to rate yourself on a percentile distribution, but let me tell you if 100% of men woke up tomorrow obese, we'd all be unfuckable. We'd all be gross. your hotness isn't a percentage, its a feeling women get when they look at you.
Work on making yourself better then you were yesterday. That's all you can do.
BobbyPeru 6y ago
No- you are mixing beta bux into SMV. Very wrong. Hit the sidebar. “Social status” is a much better indicator than wealth or income. A nerdy CEO isn’t getting pussys wet if his social game sucks. If you keep thinking this way, you will end up with a hot chick who marries you for your money, then fucks a Chad who has real SMV but possibly little income compared with you. Then she divorce rapes you.
Balls_Wellington_ 6y ago
I was thinking more like fat Elvis. Still a rockstar but just so out of shape. Still pulled like a mf
BobbyPeru 6y ago
That’s still social status, not income/wealth
Redpillbrigade17 6y ago
Dude. First of all it’s tenet not tenant.
Secondly you’re waxing poetic a bit too much. By definition MV is perceived. That’s what m for market stands for. You think your house is worth a lot, but until you try to sell it there’s no actual market for it. Anything else is not really market, but some estimate.
Body fat, age and income are of course good parameters. But they’re not the full picture. We all know the fat fuck who’s got balls of steel, charms the ladies with his game, and gets done in the S marketplace way more than lots of guys who on paper should have high value.
If I were you I would stop trying to apply quantitative principles and discover the formula of it all, and instead do some relevant work. To actually increase that market value, not earn a PhD in it.
Balls_Wellington_ 6y ago
Fixed, fat thumbed it.
I don't think trying a rough quantification is waxing poetic, it helps me stay realistic. Instead of thinking "I'm a 7, why do I get relatively few IOI's etc." I can know why. It's because I'm a stretch 5.
Aechzen 6y ago
Because you're not talking to women.
Game and actually talking to women is going to help you more than hot and aloof every time.
Most sexually successful man I know is fat and bald and dresses like a slobby lumberjack in a suburban area. He always has a new hot woman every time I see him. He... talks to women, a lot. That's enough.
Redpillbrigade17 6y ago
You’re still not getting it. Your whole post reeks of typical immature young guns craving. You’re like the karate kid who wants to get to the top of the food chain very very quickly. “Oh what is the exact formula, so I can ace it, so I can then know that I’ve made it. So I can feel good about myself, and then enjoy GUARANTEED results.”
You are textbook nice guy. Most of us have been there. It’s OK to want some scoring system but you must defeat that craving that you’ve arrived. That’s mommy’s boy thinking. “Just tell me what hoops to jump through and once I come back like a lap dog with my completed scorecard, please give me the keys to the kingdom. I earned them!!”
That’s not how it works. To have high SMV and your own damn Frame is to invent your own scale. You’ll know it. “SMV” will be an after thought. It will be random chicks touching you inappropriately in bars. It will be you getting a bit more eye contact from women without even trying and just barely noticing. It will come from who you are deep deep inside and how you manifest it in your day to day life. Not from where you rank on an income grid. Or from your actual age. It will be you fucking choosing the hottest and most amazing women/ woman you want to spend time with. And drop several since you just don’t have time for all of them. It will be you selecting on and on. And most importantly you won’t even care. Trust me when you get there you won’t track your “SMV” on a spreadsheet.
You’re welcome. Get to work.
redwall92 6y ago
new band name?
noob flair?
[deleted] 6y ago
When I started RP 7 years ago after breaking up with a chick I did all the research in the fucking world. I planned, planned, and planned where I'd be in my "journey" every step of the way.
Kind of got lost and wasn't sure where I "was" for a while. What was my SMV this morning!?
Just did the work anyways. A couple of months later, just as you mentioned, a random chick touched me inappropriately at a bar and a light went off in my head.
Ya, you need to think about stuff - but not too much. You just need to live it. I realized that didn't need an Excel Sheet, or even a sub-reddit (gasp), to give me permission to do it.
i-am-the-prize 6y ago
Transcendence baby
Cam_Winston21 6y ago
Fellow engineer. Strength affects SMV less than high muscle mass & low body fat. Lotta big fat guys than can bench 405.
Keep lifting, the gainz will come. And by gainz, I mean muscle. Worry less about 1RM than what you can move for 8-12 reps with pristine technique. So, map out that high volume workout in your next spreadsheet instead of working out your maxes.
Balls_Wellington_ 6y ago
I actually switched to a 4x8 this week, I've been doing stronglifts on and off for a few years but never with enough consistency for the gains to stick.
My 1rm is a guess based on my 5x5 weight, I don't have a lot of time so spending a whole workout to find them seems wasteful
[deleted] 6y ago
Look into hypertrophy specific training and use a 1rm calculator to guage the 15, 10, and 5rm ranges. Use a incremental basis that ensures the first session after u hit 15 rm transitions in 6 increments to your 10rm, then the same for the ramp up to 5rm. Then take ur 9 days off.
If ur tight on cash like me, 2.99 for a gallon of whole milk every day, multivitamin, and a sensible dinner will do the rest.
Gym sessions ramp up from 90 mins with 20 various lifts, up to 2hours as each level's max in approached. The gains will stick, if you stick with the every 2 day schedule.
Sepean 6y ago
Since you like numbers, if your forced me to put percentages on what makes up your SMV I’d say 50% is frame, 30% game, 20% looks.
Strength and bodyfat are a part of looks. Income is irrelevant. So you hardly capture SMV here.
Here’s how you test your SMV: dread game. That’s the best thing for a noob to do. Talk to strangers. You’ll feel it if your frame isn’t there, the conversation will tell you if your game is off. Don’t fucking sit in your home and calculate SMV, go out and do shit that requires your SMV to be high. It’s good practice, too, nothing builds frame and game like it. When girls a hitting on you, that’s when you get true abundance mentality.
Iammrp2 6y ago
I agree with those percentages and I would add that from a SMV perspective frame is a "how she perceives your frame" or more specifically: your social status. Status is everything to women. You can be rich and powerful but everyone hates you lowering your status. Or fit as fuck but with social anxiety lowering your status. Or fat and poor but revered by the community because you're a lead fire fighter saving lives in the community.
The reason the first thing we focus on is LIFT is because of the self confidence it brings.
Sepean 6y ago
Absolutely not. Frame is not social status. Social status isn’t alpha.
Lots of alphas are hated by society, or at least have very low social standing.
The problem with anxiety isn’t that it lowers your social status, it signals low alpha independently of status. A guy with social anxiety but high status will still have problems with his alpha.
Iammrp2 6y ago
Look at trump. Rich and powerful but has to pay for sex
Sepean 6y ago
Rich and powerful isn’t alpha, those are beta traits.
Alpha doesn’t mean winner, or leader. The red pill alpha is very different from the main stream alpha.
Alpha is frame, game, and looks, and pretty much nothing else.
Iammrp2 6y ago
Beta is the last verb I'd use to describe trump. I'd describe him as a narcissistic alpha. Doesn't give a fuck about anyone but himself. He doesn't lead others because he doesn't give a fuck about others.
Leading is a beta trait but only alphas are in a position to lead. An alpha is a big fucking tree. Immovable. If he is able to provide shade he will attract others and have the opportunity to lead men and fuck women. Trump is a big fucking tree without any leaves. People are only around him because of his position. They're trying to use him for firewood.
Someone like a firefighter/community leader type would have both alpha and beta traits. Willing to use his alpha position to further other's agenda, including the female imperative. Because he is willing to trade his position women are attracted to him.
A man without position has nothing to trade and is unattractive. A man who has position but is unwilling to trade is also not attractive (trump).
Frame game and looks is the language women look for. The evidence that you have position and you're willing to trade.
Sepean 6y ago
I don’t know much about how trump conducts himself in private, so I can’t say. But in general, a lot of tough, powerful men are not very alpha with women and just play beta game, ie. rely solely on their money and status to pull women in. And it doesn’t work well, they’re just very, very good beta bux. Their trophy wives still think they’re disgusting if they lack alpha.
Being alpha has nothing to do with leading. Lots of alphas are stupid assholes with zero leadership skills.
Wtf are you talking about? Alpha is frame, game and looks. There is no “alpha position”, no alpha in being a community leader or whatever, there is nothing to “trade”.
Being alpha is attractive. You don’t have to do shit or offer anything beyond just being alpha. It is not transactional, unless you consider fucking her as providing a service.
It sounds like you’re still stuck at thinking purely in beta terms.
Maximus_Valerius 6y ago
Trump, Trump, Trump... So many people are in that guy’s frame.
Hell, I was in Canada last week and someone had a “Resist Trump, Dump Trump” sign in their window. Living rent free inside so many heads.
Iammrp2 6y ago
You're right. Everyone who loves him or hates him is in his frame.
Maximus_Valerius 6y ago
How do you live rent free in other heads? Always be polarizing.
Over60_FireTempered3 6y ago
OP, BOTH of your premises are dead wrong.
Many a millionaire may as well be a minion-aire when comes to getting laid. Lots of strong fit guys at the gym have absolutely no game and when is comes to sex, they are strictly do-it-yourselfers.
Lots of newbs here with great income and in good shape.
Keep reading the side bar, they answers you seek are there.
red-sfpplus 6y ago
You forgot the over 60 year old guys banging 18 year old thots
Over60_FireTempered3 6y ago
One thing you and I agree on, 35+ year old's, not teens.
SorcererKing 6y ago
Here you go, guy, computate on this.
Balls_Wellington_ 6y ago
Right, overthinking. Could probably write a book on that.
mrpthrowa 6y ago
I'm better than you. I calculate my SMV using a combination of income, weights, body fat percentage, number of trips per year, number of hobbies, number of lego bricks, and numbers exchanged with chicks, into a giant spreadsheet.
I then plot this over time, and using third degree regression analysis I have a prediction of what my SMV will be over the next few years, with the expected target number of pussies invaded in a secondary y axis. By my calculations, after 12 years I'll be in a couple of pussies every night.
Iammrp2 6y ago
That compounding her in the ass interest really pays off in the long run.
weakandsensitive 6y ago
5 stars. 2 thumbs up.
dilberryhoundog 6y ago
SMV is like having a big shiny ship in the harbour. You have made a spreadsheet to compare with other big shiny ships in the harbour, with all the different metrics of a ship being compared to make an overall coefficient. Each captian sais... My ship is strong (lifting), My ship has all the maps (sidebar) My ship has a huge cargo hold (career), blah, blah, blah.
A first mate will jump onboard, but will be off again quicker than you can say "shiver me timbers", Why?
Because all the ship does, is sail around the harbour, it is moored, front and centre at the dock, so everybody can oogle at the ship. Women (first mates) don't care for ships that stay in the harbour much, even the big shiny strong ones. They want to go on adventures, they want to see the captain really sail the thing, with his expert seafaring skills. They want to find treasures and see exoctic and dangerous lands. A ship needs to have a mission, and then GO on it.
Women know this intuitively and will see right through you.
I have a crappy looking ship sometimes with some pretty big vulnerablities, but my woman loves standing next to her captain on an adventure she would never go on herself.
SBIII 6y ago
The flair. :)
dilberryhoundog 6y ago
I knew you’d be back. Just... gotta... keep... building... that... Wall
SteelSharpensSteel 6y ago
It was appropriate.
The_Litz 6y ago
Going to spend the weekend deciphering that flair
dilberryhoundog 6y ago
Read my OYS.
SteelSharpensSteel 6y ago
https://www.reddit.com/r/marriedredpill/comments/cz20iv/own_your_shit_weekly_september_03_2019/eyyj54f/
SBIII 6y ago
Painful.
dilberryhoundog 6y ago
Hey you seem very interested in my case and seem to have all your shit together.
Will you be my safe person?
SBIII 6y ago
You're so vain, I bet you think this song is about you, don't you?
dilberryhoundog 6y ago
No, I was serious. Sorry for the victim puke. I sure went to town on my first OYS. Hopefully I’ll do better on the next one.
SBIII 6y ago
For who? Me? MRP? Yourself? Who are you doing this for?
I'm no more interested in you than the next man. I post here to help others where others have helped me. If you kill the ego, quit the victim mentatilty and stop bullshitting yourself with delusions of undaignosed disorders, you might benefit from the help that people are trying to give you.
Until then, you're a waste of my - and everybody else's - time.
DeplorableRay 6y ago
That’s too bad. But I’ll stand by it. Even Bezos had to alpha the fuck up to get any kind of pussy, and even he was taken to the cleaners. I’ll stand by my statement. Money does not a wet pussy make.
screechhater 6y ago
Definitely STFU and lift.
An easy gain that a lot cannot grasp is frame.
“Hey, I’m on a diet, I’m not eating those brownies and stop serving me desert”.
“Again, I’m on a diet. Stop serving me so much”.
Frame - confidence simply displayed on staying the course. Not going to be swayed.
Frame. Made a shit decision ? Fucking live with it, drop it, move on and learn to think before acting. Simple.
SMV is a healthy mishmash of inputs. But the STFU and lifting scream something via actions or inactions (especially fucking DEERing) which is the most unattractive shit there is
Drop the spread sheet, get some clothes that fit/are clean and match, STFU, lift, operate in your frame, exude confidence and tip the scale in your favor, almost immediately
wild_deer_man 6y ago
Another useless autistic post.
Should become an acronym: AUAP.