There is a false dichotomy in the RP discussion saying a man should not be emotional because emotional men are weak men. They are not in control of themselves.
Many autists come and ask here "how do I get rid of my emotional side?"
Humans cannot willingly change their emotion. We cannot will away sadness, pain, or even happiness once this feeling arrives. However, we can do many things to avoid, repress and ignore feelings.
This question usually comes from men who were hurt and now are afraid of the pain, thinking it makes them weak. They are running and hiding from it. They try to present a strong facade when in reality they are scared to face themselves because they know what hides underneath.
What really makes you weak is the constant inner struggle to avoid the pain, not allowing it to run its course.
I am a strong believer that we are first and foremost animals, and animals have ceratin biology that cannot and should not be avoided. I see Red Pill as a biological truth, however it is not the entire truth.
When your wife ignores you and you feel hurt, you try your best not to give that pain a place. STFU and move on un-butthurt as if nothing happened. Our biology requires for emotions to run their course. An emotion that is suppressed and not allowed to be expressed gets stuck with us like a gum stuck to the shoe sole. This created inner struggle and inner struggle created weakness.
As you keep avoiding feelings more and more gum get stuck on your shoe and eventually it gets hard to walk. Like a computer that has some background process running, eating away resources making everything else slow. Like a swamp that drags you down the more you try to fight it.
By fighting your feelings you become a weak man torn by constant inner conflict, instead of becoming a strong oak of a man. You run away from yourself, becoming fearful and avoidant. It can even hurt you physically, create all kinds of health problems. It takes energy away from your mission.
Here is the good news: there is a better way, and not one which turns you into the emotional beta train wreck you probably imagine.
It is dead simple: all you need to do is to feel those emotions.
Go to a quiet place, by yourself, for 20 minutes and allow yourself to feel whatever it is that you are feeling. Don’t whine to your wife, but sit by yourself and let the feelings come. The less you resist them, the faster they will run their course.
Do not analyze or judge or try to change anything. Just ask yourself “what is it that I am feeling right now?” Make sure you don't sit with the goal of getting rid of the feelings, the goal must be to only feel them. Like meditation.
When you accept your emotions, you no longer need to worry about what your wife, or anyone else will think of them. You OWN them, You do not dump them or wait for your wife to “heal your inner child”. Strong men don’t give two flying fucks what anyone thinks of them. They are the way they are and they OWN it.
I could cry in front of my woman, and still fuck her 2 times later, leaving her begging for more (true story). If you think you will be called a fag because you cry, it is not because of the tears, but because you are afraid of yourself and weak inside. It is easy to see the difference.
There is no getting rid of emotions. No matter how Red Pill you are, you are human and you will feel until the day you die. Instead of fighting yourself all the way there, save energy for what is really important.
I this made you curious, I also recommend this book: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B002IYE5XO

3gm22 6y ago
This is all excellent advice, the kind of contribution that should be stickied to the top on the sub. Thank you for taking the time.
42gauge 6y ago
Did you just trick us into meditating?
[deleted] 6y ago
This is way tl;dr to describe classical stoicism.
Perfectinmyeyes 6y ago
It's not whether you will have emotions, it's what you do with the. Just like it's not what the world does its how you interpret it.
BobbyPeru 6y ago
I think you have a false dichotomy that this is a tenant of MRP. It’s not. The MRP approved don’t suggest that you don’t feel emotions. The MRP approved suggest that you STFU and feel it fully... just not in front of her very often
[deleted] 6y ago
> Humans cannot willingly change their emotion. We cannot will away sadness, pain, or even happiness once this feeling arrives
You can certainly will away emotions. Just sitting there for 20 minutes with your feelz... I'm not sure what this accomplishes. Just sitting there can actually make things worse.
You have to change your mental state. /u/SBIII has it right - you need to objectively figure out what the external force is that is causing the negative emotions. Then will yourself to realize it means nothing - you're the point of origin for how you feel. By continuing to recognize the external influences and they don't matter - you build up your mental strength.
Let's take one of my favorite emotions - anxiety. Your body's way of telling you "there's something fucking wrong here". If I just sit with anxiety for 20 minutes, I guarantee it's going to get worse. Then I'm thinking - fuck I'm anxious and there's no grizzly bear. I start getting anxious about being anxious. That's not going to help.
If I sit and say, ok I'm anxious. Why the fuck am I anxious? Oh... because of "X". Then can you affect "X" or not? Almost always the answer is "no". Then you can break the cycle: "I shouldn't be anxious because I can't affect 'X'". Or alternatively get up and start doing shit.
> If you think you will be called a fag because you cry, it is not because of the tears, but because you are afraid of yourself and weak inside. It is easy to see the difference.
Try not to cry in front of your woman. And if she's crying, you need to be her rock. If you do cry - you're right - own it and don't expect her or anyone else to fix it.
I will always be proud of standing up as my wife gave her eulogy at my son's funeral (I had given mine) and I stood there with my hand on her back while she cried and I didn't. I supported her through the raw emotion. Of course, I bawled my eyes out at other times - but during those minutes I was her rock and she got through it without breaking down. If I had broken down, I know she would have too.
wild_deer_man 6y ago
I am sorry to hear about your son.
Sure that some situation, like that, the rule are different.
I would not presume giving advice on something like that, all I can say is that I tried the methods you described and they were way less efficient than what I described. Yes, sitting with anxiety or pain does make it go away, eventually, and if I give it room and not fight or try to rationalize it away.
[deleted] 6y ago
I disagree - the rules aren't different. That was just one example. I have had anxiety for a long time. The only thing that has ever helped is facing it and figuring out what is causing it. Sitting and just 'experiencing it' has always made it worse.
wild_deer_man 6y ago
It's good that you found a way that works for you.
Putin-Nanny 6y ago
Same thing with being a romantic. Passionate foreplay can be very effective, single or married. Your just have to know to not devalue it by over doing it.
SirAttackHelicopter 6y ago
I think you missed the whole idea about this... Yes you can feel emotions. But what separates men from women and children is the fact that we can FILTER said emotions. We have that extra layer of control that we developed when we transition from a boy to a man. Women like to say emotions are a good thing and that this layer of control is part of toxic masculinity, which of course is BS. Emotions are a BAD thing if you let them control and consume you, so it's a double edged sword.
shouldergirdle 6y ago
Agreed! Women process everyday events primarily through their emotions. They share their emotions with others and seek validation and support for their emotions. Example: "Becky in accounting said Good Morning to me in a bitchy way, today. OMG! She is such a bitch blah, blah, blah." Men generally should take a more logical approach to everyday events: Becky: "Good Morning", ME: "Good Morning". Walk away, never think about it.
Men who primarily process everyday events through an emotional lens such as frustration in a traffic jam, Seething resentment because the tooth paste lid as not screwed on properly, yelling at the kids for spilling the milk etc. are acting like women. They are reactive, emotional and not in control of themselves or their environments. As men, we must control our thoughts and emotions, remain stoic in uncertain times and act with confidence and competence.
wild_deer_man 6y ago
How?
First time I hear this piece of bro-science. Is there any real biology behind it?
SirAttackHelicopter 6y ago
Youtube jordan petersen. He is redpill truths like there is no tomorrow, including how men vs women handle emotions. He also has a psychological background so he is a rather high level expert on this matter.
SKRedPill 6y ago
For pain, I'd always recommend Eckhart Tolle or Adyashanti's methods - of letting them resolve as and when they come, or consciously releasing them with awareness and grounding - hidden pain can lead to a lot of destructive behaviors. Even pleasure addictions of any form are basically an anesthetic to numb the pain of being with yourself.
The male mind has a natural mechanism for this cleansing - yup, the man cave -- all these techniques are different ways of using this deliberately. One can do this purging meditating, not showing anything on the outside. If you do need to vent, do it alone or with other men - women have no capacity for your catharsis.
The important thing is that emotions are important and our most important energy source, but it is necessary to handle them and express them in masculine ways and not feminine ways (no matter what those females keep telling you) - emotions and the events that happen to you need to be accepted acknowledged in all honesty rather than rationalizing them away - only then the right way to respond emerges. We need not have to become like a woman at all for this - the masculine has its own aesthetic.
And this is also important - one must not give any sign of awkwardness in doing this - we need to demonstrate we're comfortable in our own skin even in those moments and do not need approval - it will show up in the body language - as that of a person who's mastered his grief, but not one who's lost it. That's the key.
I have done this release process a few times when I've been suffering silently inside - that energy first gets worse, then it begins to fade. It instead tends to ground itself down into the body where it can make you feel ill for a while, or you can shed a few tears in silence, then it's gone. Twice or thrice later, you realize it's just a memory that's making you sick and it is actually not really happening in this moment at all - that's when your mind expands and starts seeing what it's missing in life right now, because you got oneitis for what your mind was doing. All pain is a failure to be at ease with oneself and see oneself as they really are.
The emotional burden is caused by too much accumulation of the past and future in the mind - a resistance and a failure to come to ease with reality and see the next step right in front of us -- and we need to realize this - we're creating and living only in this moment. The more we become aware of this, the more we are free. We also get into a zone with this practice once all our energy is free for this moment. Resistance and denial only causes stress to build up. Every time I see a shooter with a broken past, I see a case where they just couldn't accept what happened to them, accept that they didn't get what they wanted, release the pain and start afresh.
The key however is to do this fully awake and aware in this moment of what is going on - only then you're free of it. Be aware of the one experiencing these thoughts and emotions - you. You are present. Or else you will get swept into thoughts and emotions and let your mind control you instead of letting them go. Well this isn't that different from being with an emotional woman either. You hold frame with your emotions - this frame is just sheer, awake, presence and acceptance as they are. This will strengthen your mind. It also makes you appear as someone who's comfortable in their own skin no matter what, not someone who's lost their anchor.
Doing this a few times has made me realize I can let them be without getting swept into their storms - because I'm conscious of what's going on - it's a powerful storm, but deep down my own presence is the calm that allows the storm to come and go. After a purging you feel a huge release and with practice I am at peace with myself . But I get tested by life every day, that never ends. Life and woman, not so different.
And learn how to express like a man - it's far subtler most of the time, sometimes explosively intense, but when you see it, you know it's powerful stuff, not weak stuff.
gvntr 6y ago
Could you expand on this idea?
SKRedPill 6y ago
Imagine an autist's robotic approach to life and you'll see why emotion is important. Emotion is the source of energy in a person - intelligence can only suggest ideas, or know the road, but it is emotion that's the driving force that allows you to walk the path. Emotion in its primal form is what stops life from appearing utterly bland, meaningless and dry. Why do you think we call the robotic approach "lifeless"?
When I read wiki's definition of emotion, popular narrative only talks about all the reactive emotions. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emotion - If anything that is the definition of emotion itself. But that's like half the picture for me - it doesn't answer a lot of other stuff. Understanding emotion as just the reactive stuff is incomplete.
To me, things like drive, desire, passion, freshness, intensity, are also part of the feeling package and have their own impact - you can see this clearly if you watch the best athletes playing in a zone. In it's primal form it gives intensity to life. People who lack this energy often have a lot of trouble doing the stuff they want - not enough drive or discipline. Look, if I need to go to the gym, I need to get up at like 5 am - I can't do that without a lot of drive and strength and desire.
Emotion however lacks discrimination or calibration - it is only awareness that gives you the knowing. Testosterone tends to focus emotion into drive and intensity, whereas estrogen tends to make emotions volatile, highly reactive and all over the place.
Emotion as defined in eastern philosophy is what happens when this energy is disturbed or agitated in various forms- that is how we see them now and we miss the aspect of them that's necessary to give us the drive and energy we need to do what we want. Intelligence is defined as a man with sharp eyesight and knowledge who has no legs, and emotion is a powerful man who is nevertheless blind. The smart, but lame man sits on the strong man's shoulders and together they can walk the path. Emotion is the car with the engine and tires, and intelligence is the driver with the headlights.
The thing is - you can actually control and generate this energy proactively. When both the blind man and the lame man cross a certain peak, you get into a zone state ("Zen" is another word for it). Their intelligence is crystal clear, not blinded by irrelevant thoughts and opinions, and their intensity is beyond their usual 100% - in fact you sometimes can't tell them apart anymore. It's the holy grail of sports - and the best of them can access it more often, but the champions also know how to play well even when they're not in a zone.
A man shouldn't be over-reactive like a woman - masculine aesthetic lies in it's subtlety of reactivity. But he must be full of life, drive and intensity. When people talk of masculine emotions, this is the most important thing. People fail to get the difference and they mislead a lot of boys and men about what emotion is.
gvntr 6y ago
Thanks for that. I'm always looking for and trying to tap into sources of energy. Ways to increase intensity. What got me here was a combination of lust and anger.
dilberryhoundog 6y ago
During my life...
I have relied on time passing to resolve emotion. But time passing doesn't resolve emotion, only the memory fades.
I have learnt to "forget the past" to speed up the memory fading process.
My emotion is usually right there telling me what to do. But I don't listen to it, as I frantically employ ego defence, with my analytical brain.
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Here is what I'm going to do...
Step 1: listen (pay attention) to my emotions.
Step 2: feel them and resolve them right now, in the moment.
Step 3: bust through the memory fog, so I can stop repeating stupid mistakes and start planning a future.
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Thank you for your post, and for the book recommendation.
wild_deer_man 6y ago
Good summary, thanx. Can you elaborate on 3?
dilberryhoundog 6y ago
Sure.
If you read my OYS 1 (only a few weeks ago), you will find me musing over whether to go and see a doctor about ADHD.
The cornerstone of the ADHD dianosis is "time blindness" and "emotional impulsivity".
Time Blindness
Is effectively lacking hindsight and foresight. "Can't see into the past and therefore can't see into the future" is how it is described.
This time blindness is a heavy feature of my life (hence my search for answers). I leave every thing to the last minute, I repeat stupid mistakes, I struggle to know what to do in the present as I don't know what my future looks like, My interests change constantly as I "try on" different futures.
It occurred to me very recently that a possibility would be for a child to learn "time blindness", if they relied upon time to dissolve negative emotions. Because if you don't learn to "forget", then you must carry a huge weight with you from all the negative things you remember.
Emotional Impulsivity
ADHD persons also have emotional impulsivity, meaning their emotions are triggered more often then normal and stronger, but lack the apparent executive function to regulate emotions so that they don't cause immediate damage to their reputation / social interactions. This also is a heavy feature of my life. But I mused the possiblilty that its not that I can't regulate them, but that I am "numb" to them and don't acknowledge their presence. Meaning everybody else can see me being emotional but me (self emotional blindness).
Going Forward
It all kind of clicked in and made sense. I have the time blindness, I don't resolve emotion in the moment and leave it to "time", I am emotionally impulsive. Why don't I learn to do step 1, 2 so that I can do step 3 (regain my memory) so I can better learn from my past and plan further into my future?
SBIII 6y ago
Did you ever go to a doctor?
dilberryhoundog 6y ago
Finally got it booked for tomorrow, after some scheduling fuck arounds.
HornsOfApathy 6y ago
You could also learn to express emotions like a man.
wild_deer_man 6y ago
Let's get to basics, here is what I believe:
Masculinity is an ideal, this ideal is composed of many qualities. Those qualities can have many faces. You can see 2 men, call them both very masculine and they will be completely different people. I know a guy who wears sparkling tights and colors his fingernails, yet he has the body that most people here dream about and he gives two flying fucks if anyone doesn't like him or his lifestyle (he lives with 2 women).
Copying a masculine behavior from a Hollywood movie is the lowest level possible of attempting to represent that masculinity. It's an empty facade.
When you experience an emotion, at that moment, it is part of your personality. Many cultures treated emotions as ghosts. For example, saying that when a man is in a rage he has a totally different personality, that he is possessed by something.
Whenever you feel an emotion, you partially become that emotion. This means that this is who you are at that moment. If you are too afraid to own it and be who you are, you are too fearful to represent masculinity. Same goes of course for showing emotions for the sake of a response, the all-known beta way.
So trying to "express your emotions like a holywood man" is weak. Express what you need whenever you need, and I'll be damned if women will not turn into puddles no matter what you feel.
SBIII 6y ago
You can be defined by your emotions or you can define them. Flying into a rage is allowing yourself to be defined by anger. Controlling that anger allows you to control the emotion.
Controlling this emotion doesn't mean that you don't own it.. quite the opposite.
When you allow anger to take you over, you are being controlled by the emotion. In this case, you don't own the emotion, it owns you.
Saying that you should embrace this as being part of who you are because it's masculine is total fucking horse shit.
RedPillGlasses 6y ago
You guys are saying the same shit, just two different ways.
Anger is an EXTREMELY useful emotion for men, it’s the application of that anger that defines the man.
red-sfpplus 6y ago
Hey, look another poster thinking they understand emotions, when their entire fucking OP is about only one category of emotions:
Pain and weakness.
Lets just not talk about any of the positive ones, cause god knows we cant get lost in those as well. 85% of this sub probably experiences Hysterical Bonding every week, but hey lets ignore that.
Yeah, I watched Titanic with a girl to.
PS: If I had to go and fucking meditate every time I felt something, I would never get shit done.
wild_deer_man 6y ago
ok
mrbadassmotherfucker 6y ago
I've gotta try meditation. The analogy you used with the gum stuck to the bottom of your shoe is spot on and exactly how I feel sometimes. I find it difficult to ignore those emotions and meditation might just be the answer.
wild_deer_man 6y ago
Good.
Just notice that what I recommend is not a normal meditation, but one in which the main focus is on your emotions and feelings at the moment.
mrbadassmotherfucker 6y ago
That's exactly what I need to focus on at times. So will try this out. Thanks.
FoxShitNasty83 6y ago
I was tempted by that book but some of the reviews put me off. What's your take on it?
I routinely struggle with my own emotions and "letting go". I opt for STFU and keeping busy or walking away till it passes. No doubt the turbulence can be felt by those around me until it does. Thanks for posting this its appreciated.
wild_deer_man 6y ago
My take is that it helped me.
Try this one too https://youtu.be/c3V\_Gtfr\_YA
SBIII 6y ago
You can only be hurt by someone or something if you allow them to hurt you.
Conversely, you can only be made happy by someone or something if you allow them to make you happy.
In both situations, it is not external things or people that dictate your mood, it is how you choose to react to them that determines how you feel about them.
RoccoPinkman 6y ago
Mans search for meaning by viktor Frankyl is of exactly this theme.
SBIII 6y ago
Will check it out.
wild_deer_man 6y ago
If you have reached this level of self understanding and control that no external circumstances can affect your emotions, nothing can make you sad, hurt or angry, kudos. You don't need this post.
FereallyRed 6y ago
It is a Ghandi quote...
SBIII 6y ago
Anything can affect your emotions - mine or anyone else's. How you choose to control them defines them.
Emotions are not weakness. Not being able to control them is. Women are ruled by their emotions, men can rule over theirs.
wild_deer_man 6y ago
Nice slogan. But empty and has no real life value.
SBIII 6y ago
It only has no real life value if you choose to not let it have any value.
30dirtyfingers 6y ago
Emotions are a weakness when you let them consume you and you do negative things as a result of them. They are not bad in and of themselves, but can result in bad things. Gain control over your emotions to the effect that, you feel them, but are not run by them.
wild_deer_man 6y ago
I agree, and maybe I should have mentioned this:
Many people find themselves run by negative emotions and don't know how to break the cycle. They are in a perpetual struggle with their emotions and lose every time. They don't realize that by letting go and simply feeling, they can break the cycle.
baeslick 6y ago
This. As someone who's recently found himself and his life's mission but also is in current treatment and therapy for PTSD and anxiety, I can say for a fact that this quote
Is 100% accurate. Emotions are meant to be felt, stoicism is good but some things are meant to be emotionally expressed like grief and sadness. Repressed emotions that come out later in life are at least way better than allowing it to eat at your insides and poison your otherwise iron frame, just don't let yourself be consumed by them.
30dirtyfingers 6y ago
yeah, that goes for both positive (branch swinging for example) or negative, but i think negative emotions have a stronger effect. Its a hard cycle to break. I look at each struggle as an opportunity to get stronger, because the negative thoughts never stop creeping in, we just get better at overcoming them. But you have to let yourself feel them without giving in to them just because.
You would be surprised at how much girls gush over having control over your emotions because they simply cant or because understand how difficult it is for them, i dunno which one it is.
wild_deer_man 6y ago
Completely agree with the second, However, life is hard enough to fight needless struggles, especially ones you cannot win.
30dirtyfingers 6y ago
Very. Gotta know when to hold them, and know when to fold them as the song says.
RedPillGlasses 6y ago
When my kids do something stupid, I yell at them.
When my woman does something stupid, I yell at her.
Call me crazy, but getting (appropriately) angry with your woman works amazingly well to keep her in line.
rocknrollchuck 6y ago
Your boss yelling at you all the time works amazingly well to keep you in line too. However, is that a work environment that will encourage you to do your best work? And how long will you want to stay if you're yelled at every day?
RedPillGlasses 6y ago
Never said yell all the time, try again
Yes, it’s called the military, which I was in
If she doesn’t like the way I run the family, then she can go find a new one
That was a pretty weak reply for a flaired member.
“Don’t yell at her too much, she might not like it and not do her best work.”
Damn Beta Bob, it’s going to be okay.
amalgamator 6y ago
Disagree - more important is to create trust and a collaborative alliance. The captain doesn’t lose his shit and get angry. The captain has grounded responding. Not overreacting or underreacting. Over-reacting to tense or anxiety-filled situations is a common problem. Unbalanced, untimely, or disproportionate responses are one of the most common ways people ruin their lives. We see too often here:
Don’t yell at your kids or your wife - lead them.
RedPillGlasses 6y ago
Agreed. The important word being "appropriately" angry.
It's obvious that your children are young and easily controlled.
This is cute, you and your wife can read a book together and sing cumbaya. Intimacy & Desire. Passionate Marriage. I haven't read them, but sounds impressively Beta.
You do you.
30dirtyfingers 6y ago
lmao yeah, key word being appropriate. Sometimes, im not sure if i should bother getting upset or chill out.
echo979 6y ago
Technically you're not wrong. I've read some articles about why evolutionary women are attracted to a man who expresses his anger. Of course, in a decent way. Don't go full retarded but express your anger. Again, express it in appropriate ways.
Someone said that she will fear your anger. Good. She will also find herself attracted to you. You showed that you care. You're not an emotional void autist. You are human.
RedPillGlasses 6y ago
Yeah, that’s where I’m at on it.
If she needs my approval, she will fear my displeasure and my disapproval.
Think the way I stated it sounded like I was swearing and throwing shit around every day.
jtriangle 6y ago
Nah, it doesn't keep her in line, it just makes her afraid of you because you're making loud noises. Fear leads to resentment, and lowers your value in her eyes because part of your perceived value is the ability for you to keep her safe, ie, not afraid. You can try to do mental origami to get around it, but 10,000 years ago, that was your purpose in her eyes, keep her safe and well fed while she raises your children. Don't think the human experience has wandered far from that reality.
Sooner or later, if she hasn't already, she's going to find someone who makes her feel safer than you do, and has his ducks in a row. At that point, you're just a vapor in the wind to her. When she leaves, in her mind, it will be like you never existed.
The fact is, your lack of self value has festered and lead to a lack of self control. If you valued yourself, you'd bother controlling yourself, and because you don't, you're fucking up something foundational that's going to lead to "your" woman being anything but, and her probably taking half your shit plus 30% of your paycheck for the next decade.
RedPillGlasses 6y ago
Some women think scat play is hot (google it, good times).Some women think dressing up as a clown and fucking is hot. And some women like to be yelled at.
I notice a positive effect from getting (again, appropriately) angry at my woman.
She's the oldest teenager in the room, and I treat her as such.
wild_deer_man 6y ago
I thought about writing something like that, but from the way he talks, seems like I would waste my time.
jtriangle 6y ago
Yeah, it was more for reference.
wild_deer_man 6y ago
Yelling is #1 sign of importat weakness.
hack3ge 6y ago
It’s the number one sign you are in someone else’s frame - your kids, your wife, etc.
BostonBrakeJob 6y ago
There's drill sergeant yelling, and then there's Drunk Kyle yelling.
50% of the time you're right everytime.
hack3ge 6y ago
Meh I guess it’s personality - I almost never raise my voice anymore. There’s no reason to - I can give a look of disapproval and she knows it or I can just state my expectations. Most shits not that important though and can be solved with AA or AM more effectively.
RicoDunne 6y ago
Upvote for the truth.
RedPillGlasses 6y ago
HA, I appreciate it, the downvotes were getting a little heavy.
RicoDunne 6y ago
Everyone see's toxic masculinity everywhere... .
wild_deer_man 6y ago
No, just autism.
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SBIII 6y ago
She probably disagreed with him.
wild_deer_man 6y ago
For fun
so_woke_da_wookie 6y ago
Nioce, I once bawled my eyes out on front of her so hard I shat myself. You should have seen the look on her face. Mouth open: I knew what she was thinking, “BJ time". She turned her back on me. I could tell it was LMR. So I pursued her, pulling at myself like a shit goblin.
She left to stay at her sisters for a week.
Girl has game! Or...
AWALT?