I realized something the other day, another red pill aspect that if I think about long enough will depress me actually. I was walking in a building, opening and closing a door, and noticed another man behind me coming along carrying a box. Nothing really too heavy it seemed, I'm sure he could have managed shifting the box and opening the door himself. Because he was a good 10 yards or so behind me, by the time I became aware of this, I was already in the building and the door was almost closed. It would be very obvious to the person carrying the box that I would have made an extra effort to go back outside and hold the door open. And this is what I noticed, I actually made my decision based on what gender that person was carrying the box. I knew, that if the person was female, the odds were very high that:
1) she would not have thanked me, or if she did it would have just been a fake one
2) she would have viewed me with contempt, or as a servant
3) she probably would have viewed it as her female body attracting another drone mate she would have to fend off
But because he was a man, I knew that the odds were very high that:
1) he would thank me, and actually mean it
2) he would notice that I had made extra effort, and been grateful
And that's exactly what happened. If it were a woman coming in, I would have just continued on without holding the door open. And to top it all off, she would have been more sexually attracted to me for that. This is the world we live in.
edit: sorry people for the late replies, real life has a way with interfering with things.
jlife18 7y ago
I open the door for everyone regardless of what gender they are. I do it because I'm a human being and that is what civilized people are supposed to do in our society
uNhoLeee 7y ago
holy shit, just smack her ass on the way through
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SaiHottari 7y ago
Where I live men hold the door open for me far more than women do. In fact, I've had women slam it behind them in my face. As a general rule, I hold the door open for anyone close enough behind me. It's called manners, being a decent human being, which seems to be something men here are much more prone to than women.
[deleted] 7y ago
I never thought about this, but I think you are right. (men holding door open more for me than women)
Momo_dollar 7y ago
You'll be surprised how much NOT giving a decent to hot woman the right of way to a seat on a train that becomes available really turns them on, especially when they were closer to it then you and you blatantly just take what they were going for and was most probably their right if you go be the proximity to seat rule.
[deleted] 7y ago
In today's world I completely agree. It wasn't until I started experimenting around with this though that I believed it. It just seemed impossible, but results don't lie.
[deleted] 7y ago
How do you know this? Did you sleep with the woman who you did this to?
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kindaOKbut 7y ago
Big difference in being "nice" and being kind.
Your mindset here is a covert contract: "I'll hold the door for you but I expect to be thanked and appreciated."
The predisposition against holding doors for women reeks of the Anger Phase.
Hold the door open because you are a kind person, not because you want an emotional cookie.
[deleted] 7y ago
You are right, there is a huge difference in being nice vs being kind. But most women today just lump kind guys into nice guys, the evidence of this is the number of women I have held the door open for in the past, without even a word of thanks.
razormachine 7y ago
Here's the thing. I "hold doors" (and holding the door can be used as placeholder for all those little things) as a act of kindness. It's such a small investment in terms of time that it's not even worth mentioning it. I do not do it to get a "thank you", although thank you, or a nod is a kind way to appreciate said gesture.
The thing is while man will accept the "hold the door" for what it really is, a kind gesture woman often jump to the conclusion that you are a nice guy. And that has a range of negative consequences. The whole "you are such a nice guy" is a giant shit test. What it actually means is "are you a guy that I can use to get free shit".
The best thing to do is carry a bag filled with small bunnies with you at all times. And when a woman shit tests you with the "you are such a nice guy" simply take one of the bunnies, snap his neck and say NO!
[deleted] 7y ago
Back when I held the door open more often, I used to say "your welcome" after being ignored for doing a nice gesture. Where do you buy these bunnies :-)
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wontfapmaster 7y ago
You seem to be nothing more than another fucking parasite on this planet.
[deleted] 7y ago
You are a woman aren't you?
evolveto 7y ago
And I always receive thanks for holding a door, be it man or woman! Good Manners always
__ROOSTER__ 7y ago
reframe holding a door. Its not an act of service that should be recognized, Its an act of controlling the environment and making the world the way you want it to be.
You don't hold the door for others, you hold the door for yourself,
If others fail to acknowledge you for doing so, so what?
[deleted] 7y ago
If others do not value my time helping them, why should I invest it in them?
TehJimmyy 7y ago
Go meditate buddy . You need it
PoorlyTimedPun 7y ago
Seriously...some people on here are way too absorbed with this bullshit. Anybody who doesn't say thanks is just an asshole. I'd like to hear OP's analysis on doors being held open for him and how if it's a guy he props the door with his hand and lets the guy go so as not to be emasculated or out alpha'd. But if it's a woman he stuts through like an Egyptian god while blasting a sweet godly insence fart, crop dusting her in all that is alpha.
[deleted] 7y ago
If someone holds the door open for me, I say thanks, regardless of gender. Your other comments, although colorful, are just bullshit.
PoorlyTimedPun 7y ago
Damn bro, coming back to respond to all the comments on your crazy shit post two months later? Your on another level...how many of these women you don't hold the door for have you been successful with?
[deleted] 7y ago
There's an edit to my post for not getting back sooner. Cannot go into details because of doxing.
And your crazy shit comment isn't worth replying too anymore.
Wowmuchrya 7y ago
Yup. His assertion is bullshit.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/halifax-gratitude-at-work-facebook-video-1.3729458
Literally a fucking study was done on this exact topic. 99/100 people said thanks.
[deleted] 7y ago
99/100 males would say thanks. Not women. And no, I don't have a study, just my life experience. And I'm sure the women in whatever study you found are all 100% honest, because as we know, women are always 100% honest in what they say...
TheReddHobbit 7y ago
That was Canada, a nation know for being polite. In the USA those numbers would be a bit lower, maybe 95%.
As for the other 5%, fuck em
ilovewesties 7y ago
being a red pill must be exhausting. having to think through every little detail in life.
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I know can you imagine, I actually like to think before acting.
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[deleted] 7y ago
This is pretty much my assessment as well. I actually enjoy holding doors open for "elderly" women, because they truly appreciate it, not same fake thank you like a queen will give a servant.
stephcurryftw 7y ago
Or you know, stop worrying about what gender they are and just be nice and hold the door for them. If this is what goes on through your head before you are about to do something decent for someone else then you need help.
[deleted] 7y ago
Yes, I have committed the horrible crime of not holding doors open anymore for women. You're right, I should go to counseling.
[deleted] 7y ago
What a fucking shit post? It's called being a decent human being. If a woman is carrying a heavy box or something with both hands, there is nothing wrong with holding the door open.
There is a difference between being alpha and going out of your way to be a douche.
[deleted] 7y ago
Actually being alpha and being a douche can be one and the same. Have a nice day with your "shit" comment LOL.
ransay3277 7y ago
This is true. Being courteous to others and having good manners is a sign of good upbringing. In fact, I would go so far as to say you are more Alpha because of good manners. It reinforces you being a better man.
[deleted] 7y ago
The problem is that being courteous to others, and having good manners, is viewed as being weak by most women in america. Which as we all know is not attractive.
Apexk9 7y ago
People always hold the door for me when I'm walking my dog and it's annoying.
Like just fucking go.
[deleted] 7y ago
I'm so sorry people are so nice to you.
BeachBum09 7y ago
If this bothers you then you haven't grasped the concept of "not being plugged in" to the bullshit.
Listen, women, like all humans, are prone to adapting and getting used to the way their environment interacts with them. Both people and the way they interact. Which is the entire purpose of the red pill. To realize that the way mainstream society has pushed ideas onto people results in specific behavior.
You have to look at the way people have been treated in the past. Why do some NFL players do stupid that gets them into legal trouble? Because for their entire adult lives they have been the "golden boy" at whatever high school/college/pro team they played on. With people making excuses for their poor behavior and not facing any repercussions. This is the same way with women. Why would some women not say "thank you" when you hold a door for them? Because all their lives they were taught that men should do these things for them. Why should they thank someone for doing what they should do. They have also come to expect it. "Ladies first" has been a saying for a long time.
You are trying to adopt these concepts people discuss here but you are missing the point. Completely. We all know bending over backwards for a woman is not the way to win her affection and admiration. At the same time, purposely not doing things or purposely being an asshole is the same thing. You still allowed that women to alter your behavior.
What does a confident alpha do in these situations? You hold the fucking door. They don't say thank you? Fuck em. You can toss a sarcastic "you're welcome" their way if you feel like it. But you don't let their actions or inability to be a decent human being to even remotely impact your day or mood. A true alpha or confident man would think to himself "another bitch huh?" and go on with his day. To the point where he would completely forget about it. Not write a post about it. A true alpha, a true red piller, is still a decent human being. A decent human being, with common courtesy towards others. One who doesn't go out of his way to pine for the affection or admiration of others yet doesn't waiver from his moral convictions of being a good and decent person.
[deleted] 7y ago
You are confusing being alpha as being a decent a human being. The truth is that being alpha and being decent are very often opposite. If someone holds a door open for someone else, "common courtesy" would be a thanks, a nod, a smile, something. I'm not pining for affection, or admiration. In fact I even understand that some people have bad days and just forget to say thanks.
I just don't hold the door open anymore.
SubbaHubba 7y ago
Some dolled up black chick got out of the driver side of a Benz, at a Chevron gas station. Coincidence timed it so that I'm walking in about four steps ahead of her. We were approaching the door from opposite sides.
It was funny and extremely predictable what happened. Her demeanor was of a big shot "I didn't end up a drug abusing single black hoe girl like them others in this area."
The millisecond she recognized that I ain't holding the door open for her, she broke frame and sheepishly smiled like a high school girl.
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MattyAnon Admin 7y ago
This is true in general. Men show appreciation for help, women show condemnation and disrespect for it.
Men respect generosity, women respect selfishness.
[deleted] 7y ago
The one thing I forgot to mention, was that if a woman is already sexually attracted to you, she will say thanks, smile etc. And probably hoping that you are interested in her. (think of brad pitt out of blue holding a door open for a woman)
But enough beta behaviors, like holding the door open, and the "weather" will be like a sahara desert, very dry.
Apologies for the late reply, sometimes real life causes things to happen.
mehdreamer 7y ago
The other day I was walking beside a cute HB8. She droped her keys just at my steps. My old BP would without thinking bow down and get her keys..but I didn't. I kept walking. The girl was like WTF!
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What's really sad is that you probably sparked some interest from her in you. (he's not like most guys)
Pastelitomaracucho 7y ago
Don't over think it. Strive for being a good citizen and do not even spend a second of your time thinking what the others will think of it.
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Being a good citizen, and being sexually attractive to women are very often not the same thing in today's world.
Pastelitomaracucho 7y ago
Bros over hoes. I'm not going to be an asshole to people around me just to attract women with ridiculous expectations
[deleted] 7y ago
I used to have the exact same opinion.
[deleted] 7y ago
You put this much thought into opening a door for someone? Wtf?
[deleted] 7y ago
Not really. But it dawned on me that I have changed my behavior and didn't realize it.
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[deleted] 7y ago
"Whenever I see a man holding a door he smells like a bitch to me."
And there you have it! This is why women do not thank men who hold the door open for them. (aside from some people who are just oblivious)